My teacher husband is leaving County A for County B so I am trying to figure out the most optimal approach for his retirement plan options. The County A vendor is AXA. County B has a list of vendors I need to choose among.
Brief financial background: We are 30, hope to "retire" at 45 and work just enough to fund our lifestyle until we begin drawing from various accounts around age 57-60. I max my TSP and we don't yet have a Roth IRA but hope to open one in the next few years. Even though our plan does not include pulling from any retirement accounts early, I really like the flexibility of the 457. DH contributed to a 403b with County A until I discovered MMM, at which time we switched all of his contributions to a 457.
The first question is whether we should roll over his County A accounts to County B. First, the 403b: Since we do not plan to contribute to a 403b in County B, I think I will just make the decision to rollover or not solely based on the expense ratio. Anything else I should take into account? Our allocation is a pretty standard mix of Equity 500, Small Cap, Mid Cap, International & Bonds. I believe the domestic stocks are all index but the international is managed. Annoyingly I am having a hard time finding the fees on the AXA website.
For the County A 457: Again, I'd like to know what the fees are (allocation is same as the 403b), however I am tempted to leave this where it is. I *believe* that we can access this money now that DH has left the county (even though he is in the same state -- the retirement plans seem to be county based, while the pension is state). Obviously I would not access it except in a dire emergency -- and its only 5K -- but given that I am the primary breadwinner it seems like a good idea to have some extra cash somewhere that could be accessed in case I could no longer work. (I'm a fed with great benefits/security myself so I'm not too worried about this, but, maximum flexibility!). The allocation is risky (90/10) but I don't think my job security would be tied to the market -- this would really be more about medical emergencies/bankruptcy. Thoughts on this?
County B 403b options: The vendors are VALIC, Integrated Financial Solutions/Security Benefits, Met Life, and Lincoln. It turns out I don't understand how vendors vs plans work --- I thought AXA only carried AXA stock plans or whatever -- but I'm looking at the County provided spreadsheet and it looks like VALIC and Met Life both offer Vanguard index funds?? Is that right?? If this is right I suppose I should roll over County A 403 to County B just so I can get into these Vanguard funds ---- right? How do I do this?
To confuse things a little further -- MetLife seems to offer only Vanguard bonds (VBMRX). The county supplied spreadsheet also says Vanguard 500 Index is offered but the stock ticker listed is FUSEX so I think it is Fidelity (oh HR....) but fees are still way low. VALIC offers Vanguard mid and small index (VMISX, VSISX) and low-fee Fidelity large and international index (FUSEX, FSIIX). I guess we can combine Vanguard and Fidelity within VALIC?? Our only bond options are PTTAX, DBMIX, and ACITX, ranging from .4 to .85. (not even really sure if those are all bonds per se)
Also all of this info is from 2013, so who knows if its accurate still!
County B 457b options: Fees are much higher here, high enough that I'm wondering if we should split our 403b and 457 contributions rather than go all in with the 457. I do REALLY like the flexibility of the 457 but is it worth it? Nationwide is the only 457 vendor, making this choice a little simpler, and the lowest fee options of our preferred allocation are:
SEI S&P 500 Index - TRQIX (.29)
Nationwide Mid Cap Market Index - GMXAX (0.71)
Nationwide Small Cap Index - GMRAX (0.74)
Nationwide International Index - GIIAX (0.75)
Nationwide Bond Index - GBIAX (0.69)
And again, all this info is from 2013....
Sorry if this post is a bit of a brain dump! This is my weakest arena of personal finance.
To summarize:
1) Should we roll over our 403b to County A to County B? (I think yes, because Vanguard.)
2) How DO you roll over???? I don't know where to start here
3) Is it right that a vendor (e.g. VALIX) carries multiple types of funds (e.g. Vanguard, Fidelity, T Rowe Price....)?
3) Keep our 457 with County A or roll to County B?
4) Can we combine Vanguard and Fidelity index funds within a vendor? Should we go with VALIC?
5) Are the high 457 fees worth it, or should we spread contributions between 457 and 403?
6) Should I just go with the lowest fees across the board? What to do about those weird bond options with VALIC 403b?