I did forget that we both have pensions as well, most likely mine will be frozen in the next 5 years (with ten years in now) but he will retire with his fully which should be about 35k-40k per year. He's 49 now. I'm not sure how much mine will be but I'm just going to consider it "bonus" money.
We want to retire at the same time, hopefully in the next 15 years or sooner, basically when he retires. I also want to factor in the fact that I will need to live off of my money longer. ... Then we can maybe fill in any gaps with at least 2 rentals we plan to own by then or side work. Should be at least 3,500 per month.
OK, you are beyond the knee-jerk stage and it isn't immediately obvious whether traditional or Roth is better for you now.
You may want to explore tools such as
www.i-orp.com to look at various time-dependent "what-if?"s.
If I had to bet, my bet would still be placed on traditional, but with the condition that you delay SS (and the pensions, if you have favorable terms for delaying) so you can convert your traditional funds to Roth while still paying 15% marginal rates.
If you have, say, $24K SS income on top of a $40K pension, the first ~$8,900 of tIRA->Roth conversions will be taxed at 27.75%, due to the $0.85 SS income that is taxed for every $1 conversion - even though you are in the 15% bracket (27.75% = 15% * 1.85).
You can look at graphs of marginal rates for various scenarios in the
case study spreadsheet.