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Learning, Sharing, and Teaching => Investor Alley => Topic started by: Villanelle on April 03, 2013, 06:29:57 AM

Title: How to buy REITs?
Post by: Villanelle on April 03, 2013, 06:29:57 AM
I'd like to add some REITs to my portfolio, but I have no idea how to do this.  Currently, everything I own is in the form of mutual funds.  Can someone post a quick primer on how to purchase REITs?  My investment account is through USAA, and I need to know what it is I could search for to invest in REITs.  TIA!
Title: Re: How to buy REITs?
Post by: COguy on April 03, 2013, 09:43:33 AM
Do you know how to value REITs?  I assume the fact that you do not know how to buy them means you do not.  That is great because it makes the answer fairly easy.  In which case I would recommend the vanguard REIT index fund or etf (vgslx or vnq).  You can buy this anywhere, but the best place is vanguard.  In fact, you do not even have to use the vanguard fund if you have another index fund available to you with a low expense ratio and low trading fees.

You should note that the bulk of returns from REITs are in the form of ordinary income.  To qualify as a REIT, the corporation must pay out 90% of its earnings to shareholders.  I believe this allows the REIT to avoid taxes, so it is passing them to you.  This makes them about the most tax inefficient investment vehicle.  So, I would highly recommend you keep them in a tax advantaged space of some sort. 

Start by going to vanguards site and reading about the reit etf: vnq.

I must ask, what is your plan here?  Are you planning on setting REITs as a percent of your portfolio, say 5% and keeping it at that?  I ask this because US REITs kind of look like a bad deal.  The valuations are high right now due to everyone reaching for yield.  If you simply want to have a 5-10% of you total portfolio allocation to REITs, they might be a good idea.  However, if you have a different approach, I would be very cautious to advise you to buy REITs right now.
Title: Re: How to buy REITs?
Post by: Villanelle on April 04, 2013, 02:49:25 PM
For now, it would probably be even less than 5% of my portfolio.  Actually, it would probably be less than 1%, but I'll probably start tossing a few dollars into them every month, especially if I can buy in the form of a mutual fund.  I'll see if USAA has an REIT fund (since I pay no fees in that case, and their funds tend to have fairly low expense ration).  If not, Vanguard is always my other choice.

To clarify, am I understanding correctly that putting them in a Roth is better than in a taxable investment account.  Those are really my only two choices.    I could allocate some of my month Roth money to an REIT fund, I believe. 
Title: Re: How to buy REITs?
Post by: arebelspy on April 04, 2013, 02:50:25 PM
To clarify, am I understanding correctly that putting them in a Roth is better than in a taxable investment account.  Those are really my only two choices.    I could allocate some of my month Roth money to an REIT fund, I believe.

Yes, Roth is better than taxable for REITs, cause they can be a pain tax-wise come April 15.
Title: Re: How to buy REITs?
Post by: Villanelle on April 04, 2013, 02:50:52 PM
Posted too soon.

My goal is just a bit more diversification.  As I said, I would start out very, very small, but over time I can see building up to max of 5% of my portfolio. 
Title: Re: How to buy REITs?
Post by: Villanelle on April 04, 2013, 02:51:32 PM
Thanks for clarifying.  And by the way, I love The Cheat!