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Threat of Canada Post Strike
« on: May 20, 2025, 09:07:39 AM »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-post-strike-notice-1.7538696
 
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Canada Post says it has received a strike notice from the union representing some 55,000 postal workers, with operations poised to shut down by the end of the week — for the second time in six months.

The last shut down caused a bunch of issues which had lasting effects, I see more of the same coming if they go through with a strike again. I am supportive of improved working conditions and pay but at the same time think there has to be big changes to the postal service to reflect the business realities.

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2025, 09:18:47 AM »
There are a few things going on that are hamstringing Canada Post with regards to profitability:
- Canada Post has to deliver to every place in Canada, even if it makes no economic sense to do so.
- There are still huge numbers of people who have grandfathered in costly/premium to the door mail delivery, rather than the community box mail service that the rest of Canada gets.
- In most cases, Canada Post charges rates well below those of other mail carriers

We have to determine if we want those things to continue.  If so, we need to pay for them.  If not, then mail delivery as it has existed in Canada since 1908 will need to end.

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2025, 09:32:20 AM »
There are a few things going on that are hamstringing Canada Post with regards to profitability:
- Canada Post has to deliver to every place in Canada, even if it makes no economic sense to do so.
- There are still huge numbers of people who have grandfathered in costly/premium to the door mail delivery, rather than the community box mail service that the rest of Canada gets.
- In most cases, Canada Post charges rates well below those of other mail carriers

Don't forget the consequences of the massive expansion of Amazon's anti-union / gig worker / low-wages delivery model.

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2025, 09:36:56 AM »
There are a few things going on that are hamstringing Canada Post with regards to profitability:
- Canada Post has to deliver to every place in Canada, even if it makes no economic sense to do so.
- There are still huge numbers of people who have grandfathered in costly/premium to the door mail delivery, rather than the community box mail service that the rest of Canada gets.
- In most cases, Canada Post charges rates well below those of other mail carriers

We have to determine if we want those things to continue.  If so, we need to pay for them.  If not, then mail delivery as it has existed in Canada since 1908 will need to end.

Agree with the above.

It is a community service IMO and as a taxpayer that cares about things that serve the greater good all I care is that we provide a net benefit to Canadians. Therefore I am more than happy to subsidize Canada Post and am not concerned with them running a profit at all, I just want financial accountability and to be run well.


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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2025, 11:01:56 AM »
There are a few things going on that are hamstringing Canada Post with regards to profitability:
- Canada Post has to deliver to every place in Canada, even if it makes no economic sense to do so.
- There are still huge numbers of people who have grandfathered in costly/premium to the door mail delivery, rather than the community box mail service that the rest of Canada gets.
- In most cases, Canada Post charges rates well below those of other mail carriers

We have to determine if we want those things to continue.  If so, we need to pay for them.  If not, then mail delivery as it has existed in Canada since 1908 will need to end.

Agree with the above.

It is a community service IMO and as a taxpayer that cares about things that serve the greater good all I care is that we provide a net benefit to Canadians. Therefore I am more than happy to subsidize Canada Post and am not concerned with them running a profit at all, I just want financial accountability and to be run well.

One of the functions of government is to do things that private enterprise doesn't do, or does badly.  This is one of the things we pay taxes for, so that not everything has to be profitable.

Delivering mail at a reasonable cost is included here. 

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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2025, 11:54:34 AM »
It's not possible to make a logical argument for door to door mail delivery over communal mailboxes.

I think that there's great value in being able to mail things for a reasonable price to anywhere in Canada though.

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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2025, 03:53:16 PM »
I've never had door delivery in the 30 years I've lived at this address.  First it was a box at the post office, then more recently community boxes.  Everyone in this city has that.  And most people don't check it every day, because really, who depends on mail that much anymore?  Once or twice per week delivery would be sufficient for the vast majority of people, I would think.  There would be a lot of savings on mileage and gas.  If the volume of mail is too much for one person to handle, two could easily be sent on the same route.  Seems like a more efficient plan to me.

When I heard years back that the US got mail delivered twice A DAY, I was gobsmacked.

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2025, 04:51:41 PM »
I've never had door delivery in the 30 years I've lived at this address.  First it was a box at the post office, then more recently community boxes.  Everyone in this city has that.  And most people don't check it every day, because really, who depends on mail that much anymore?  Once or twice per week delivery would be sufficient for the vast majority of people, I would think.  There would be a lot of savings on mileage and gas.  If the volume of mail is too much for one person to handle, two could easily be sent on the same route.  Seems like a more efficient plan to me.

When I heard years back that the US got mail delivered twice A DAY, I was gobsmacked.

Old English novels had mail from small villages reaching London the next day.  An Agatha Christie plot turned on that.

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2025, 05:42:36 PM »
Will a strike be impactful right now?

It's not the holiday season, with the accompanying rise in online shopping and seasonal cards.

Businesses and customers have found alternatives after the 2024 strike.

If anything the last strike taught us all how much we don't depend on Canada Post anymore.  I don't think this will strengthen the workers' position in the way that they hope.

(I would gladly switch to a community mailbox and 2-3 times a week delivery to make Canada Post sustainable and preserve service for all communities.)

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2025, 06:12:30 PM »
If anything the last strike taught us all how much we don't depend on Canada Post anymore. 

Our small business and our community were massively impacted by the local Post office being closed. It is directly across from my business and I'm in there every single day alongside community members. It is incredibly vital for our community and the operation of my business.

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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2025, 06:39:28 PM »
Will a strike be impactful right now?

It's not the holiday season, with the accompanying rise in online shopping and seasonal cards.

Businesses and customers have found alternatives after the 2024 strike.

If anything the last strike taught us all how much we don't depend on Canada Post anymore.  I don't think this will strengthen the workers' position in the way that they hope.

(I would gladly switch to a community mailbox and 2-3 times a week delivery to make Canada Post sustainable and preserve service for all communities.)

Rural Newfoundland sure as shit felt it and I'm dreading the impact of this next strike.

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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2025, 06:58:19 PM »
It's not possible to make a logical argument for door to door mail delivery over communal mailboxes.

I think that there's great value in being able to mail things for a reasonable price to anywhere in Canada though.
The type of places that need door to door delivery are the densest neighbourhoods of downtown Montreal where a block of triplexes could have hundreds of addresses and a community mailbox would take up a whole lot.

Even then, it could be condensed to one mailbox at ground level so the delivery people don't have to go up and down the stairs. But single family suburban home neighbourhoods should all have community boxes, if they don't already.

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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2025, 07:33:17 PM »
If anything the last strike taught us all how much we don't depend on Canada Post anymore. 

Our small business and our community were massively impacted by the local Post office being closed. It is directly across from my business and I'm in there every single day alongside community members. It is incredibly vital for our community and the operation of my business.

Rural Newfoundland sure as shit felt it and I'm dreading the impact of this next strike.

I appreciate hearing how a strike does have a significant impact on your communities (a reminder that things aren't the same everywhere!)  I hope it and the hardship isn't long-lived.

It's not possible to make a logical argument for door to door mail delivery over communal mailboxes.

I think that there's great value in being able to mail things for a reasonable price to anywhere in Canada though.
The type of places that need door to door delivery are the densest neighbourhoods of downtown Montreal where a block of triplexes could have hundreds of addresses and a community mailbox would take up a whole lot.

Even then, it could be condensed to one mailbox at ground level so the delivery people don't have to go up and down the stairs. But single family suburban home neighbourhoods should all have community boxes, if they don't already.

It seems new highrises all have mail rooms but I wonder how that would work in an old highrise.  Can they force the condo corporation/owner to give up space for hundreds of mailbox cubbies in the building?  Or does a huge bank of community mailboxes get built outdoors on public land?  It feels ridiculous to get our mail through a slot in the door but I can understand how the status quo has been easier than finding a change they can actually enact (there isn't a solution everyone will be happy with, of course).

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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2025, 08:25:50 PM »
I would gladly switch to a community mailbox and 2-3 times a week delivery to make Canada Post sustainable and preserve service for all communities.

Me too.

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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2025, 04:20:52 AM »
If anything the last strike taught us all how much we don't depend on Canada Post anymore. 

Our small business and our community were massively impacted by the local Post office being closed. It is directly across from my business and I'm in there every single day alongside community members. It is incredibly vital for our community and the operation of my business.

Rural Newfoundland sure as shit felt it and I'm dreading the impact of this next strike.

I appreciate hearing how a strike does have a significant impact on your communities (a reminder that things aren't the same everywhere!)  I hope it and the hardship isn't long-lived.

It's not possible to make a logical argument for door to door mail delivery over communal mailboxes.

I think that there's great value in being able to mail things for a reasonable price to anywhere in Canada though.
The type of places that need door to door delivery are the densest neighbourhoods of downtown Montreal where a block of triplexes could have hundreds of addresses and a community mailbox would take up a whole lot.

Even then, it could be condensed to one mailbox at ground level so the delivery people don't have to go up and down the stairs. But single family suburban home neighbourhoods should all have community boxes, if they don't already.

It seems new highrises all have mail rooms but I wonder how that would work in an old highrise.  Can they force the condo corporation/owner to give up space for hundreds of mailbox cubbies in the building?  Or does a huge bank of community mailboxes get built outdoors on public land?  It feels ridiculous to get our mail through a slot in the door but I can understand how the status quo has been easier than finding a change they can actually enact (there isn't a solution everyone will be happy with, of course).

Just one data point, but I live in the oldest highrise condo in my Ontario city and we have mailboxes.

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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2025, 04:59:54 AM »
If anything the last strike taught us all how much we don't depend on Canada Post anymore. 

Our small business and our community were massively impacted by the local Post office being closed. It is directly across from my business and I'm in there every single day alongside community members. It is incredibly vital for our community and the operation of my business.

Rural Newfoundland sure as shit felt it and I'm dreading the impact of this next strike.

I appreciate hearing how a strike does have a significant impact on your communities (a reminder that things aren't the same everywhere!)  I hope it and the hardship isn't long-lived.

It's not possible to make a logical argument for door to door mail delivery over communal mailboxes.

I think that there's great value in being able to mail things for a reasonable price to anywhere in Canada though.
The type of places that need door to door delivery are the densest neighbourhoods of downtown Montreal where a block of triplexes could have hundreds of addresses and a community mailbox would take up a whole lot.

Even then, it could be condensed to one mailbox at ground level so the delivery people don't have to go up and down the stairs. But single family suburban home neighbourhoods should all have community boxes, if they don't already.

It seems new highrises all have mail rooms but I wonder how that would work in an old highrise.  Can they force the condo corporation/owner to give up space for hundreds of mailbox cubbies in the building?  Or does a huge bank of community mailboxes get built outdoors on public land?  It feels ridiculous to get our mail through a slot in the door but I can understand how the status quo has been easier than finding a change they can actually enact (there isn't a solution everyone will be happy with, of course).

Just one data point, but I live in the oldest highrise condo in my Ontario city and we have mailboxes.

And my Ottawa pied-a-terre apartment built in the 1970s had a bank of mail boxes,  some bigger boxes for parcels, and a slot for outgoing mail.  So did my Ottawa apartment built less than 10 years ago.

Both condos I've rented in the GTA have no outgoing mail slot.  Both are recent builds.  It's annoying.

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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2025, 06:29:04 AM »
If anything the last strike taught us all how much we don't depend on Canada Post anymore. 

Our small business and our community were massively impacted by the local Post office being closed. It is directly across from my business and I'm in there every single day alongside community members. It is incredibly vital for our community and the operation of my business.

Rural Newfoundland sure as shit felt it and I'm dreading the impact of this next strike.

I appreciate hearing how a strike does have a significant impact on your communities (a reminder that things aren't the same everywhere!)  I hope it and the hardship isn't long-lived.

It's not possible to make a logical argument for door to door mail delivery over communal mailboxes.

I think that there's great value in being able to mail things for a reasonable price to anywhere in Canada though.
The type of places that need door to door delivery are the densest neighbourhoods of downtown Montreal where a block of triplexes could have hundreds of addresses and a community mailbox would take up a whole lot.

Even then, it could be condensed to one mailbox at ground level so the delivery people don't have to go up and down the stairs. But single family suburban home neighbourhoods should all have community boxes, if they don't already.

It seems new highrises all have mail rooms but I wonder how that would work in an old highrise.  Can they force the condo corporation/owner to give up space for hundreds of mailbox cubbies in the building?  Or does a huge bank of community mailboxes get built outdoors on public land?  It feels ridiculous to get our mail through a slot in the door but I can understand how the status quo has been easier than finding a change they can actually enact (there isn't a solution everyone will be happy with, of course).

Just one data point, but I live in the oldest highrise condo in my Ontario city and we have mailboxes.

And my Ottawa pied-a-terre apartment built in the 1970s had a bank of mail boxes,  some bigger boxes for parcels, and a slot for outgoing mail.  So did my Ottawa apartment built less than 10 years ago.

Both condos I've rented in the GTA have no outgoing mail slot.  Both are recent builds.  It's annoying.

We don't have an outgoing box in our building either, but we do have a normal mailbox on the corner.

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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2025, 06:57:00 AM »
If anything the last strike taught us all how much we don't depend on Canada Post anymore. 

Our small business and our community were massively impacted by the local Post office being closed. It is directly across from my business and I'm in there every single day alongside community members. It is incredibly vital for our community and the operation of my business.

Rural Newfoundland sure as shit felt it and I'm dreading the impact of this next strike.

I appreciate hearing how a strike does have a significant impact on your communities (a reminder that things aren't the same everywhere!)  I hope it and the hardship isn't long-lived.

It's not possible to make a logical argument for door to door mail delivery over communal mailboxes.

I think that there's great value in being able to mail things for a reasonable price to anywhere in Canada though.
The type of places that need door to door delivery are the densest neighbourhoods of downtown Montreal where a block of triplexes could have hundreds of addresses and a community mailbox would take up a whole lot.

Even then, it could be condensed to one mailbox at ground level so the delivery people don't have to go up and down the stairs. But single family suburban home neighbourhoods should all have community boxes, if they don't already.

It seems new highrises all have mail rooms but I wonder how that would work in an old highrise.  Can they force the condo corporation/owner to give up space for hundreds of mailbox cubbies in the building?  Or does a huge bank of community mailboxes get built outdoors on public land?  It feels ridiculous to get our mail through a slot in the door but I can understand how the status quo has been easier than finding a change they can actually enact (there isn't a solution everyone will be happy with, of course).

Just one data point, but I live in the oldest highrise condo in my Ontario city and we have mailboxes.

And my Ottawa pied-a-terre apartment built in the 1970s had a bank of mail boxes,  some bigger boxes for parcels, and a slot for outgoing mail.  So did my Ottawa apartment built less than 10 years ago.

Both condos I've rented in the GTA have no outgoing mail slot.  Both are recent builds.  It's annoying.

We don't have an outgoing box in our building either, but we do have a normal mailbox on the corner.

You are lucky.  Here my nearest is outside the local Shoppers, which is not within walking distance. Next nearest is in a mall on my way to DD's.  Neighbourhood boxes seem to be on the way out.

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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2025, 08:43:45 AM »
If anything the last strike taught us all how much we don't depend on Canada Post anymore. 

Our small business and our community were massively impacted by the local Post office being closed. It is directly across from my business and I'm in there every single day alongside community members. It is incredibly vital for our community and the operation of my business.

Rural Newfoundland sure as shit felt it and I'm dreading the impact of this next strike.

I appreciate hearing how a strike does have a significant impact on your communities (a reminder that things aren't the same everywhere!)  I hope it and the hardship isn't long-lived.

It's not possible to make a logical argument for door to door mail delivery over communal mailboxes.

I think that there's great value in being able to mail things for a reasonable price to anywhere in Canada though.
The type of places that need door to door delivery are the densest neighbourhoods of downtown Montreal where a block of triplexes could have hundreds of addresses and a community mailbox would take up a whole lot.

Even then, it could be condensed to one mailbox at ground level so the delivery people don't have to go up and down the stairs. But single family suburban home neighbourhoods should all have community boxes, if they don't already.

It seems new highrises all have mail rooms but I wonder how that would work in an old highrise.  Can they force the condo corporation/owner to give up space for hundreds of mailbox cubbies in the building?  Or does a huge bank of community mailboxes get built outdoors on public land?  It feels ridiculous to get our mail through a slot in the door but I can understand how the status quo has been easier than finding a change they can actually enact (there isn't a solution everyone will be happy with, of course).

Just one data point, but I live in the oldest highrise condo in my Ontario city and we have mailboxes.

And my Ottawa pied-a-terre apartment built in the 1970s had a bank of mail boxes,  some bigger boxes for parcels, and a slot for outgoing mail.  So did my Ottawa apartment built less than 10 years ago.

Both condos I've rented in the GTA have no outgoing mail slot.  Both are recent builds.  It's annoying.

We don't have an outgoing box in our building either, but we do have a normal mailbox on the corner.

You are lucky.  Here my nearest is outside the local Shoppers, which is not within walking distance. Next nearest is in a mall on my way to DD's.  Neighbourhood boxes seem to be on the way out.

There is a slot that will take letters at our community mailbox, but nothing that would take parcels of any size.

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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2025, 11:08:33 AM »
I would gladly switch to a community mailbox and 2-3 times a week delivery to make Canada Post sustainable and preserve service for all communities.

Me too.

Yes!   Our townhouse complex is undergoing a decades long underground parking membrane replacement, and they have put in one community box to serve whatever section is under construction each summer (no access to front doors for that period).   I wish they would add as many community boxes as needed and keep them active permanently. 

We hadn't had delivery to our house since the 80s until we moved here, and actually liked the community boxes better.   You can go away for a few days and not worry about getting neighbours to pick up your mail, etc.   Packages (at least those that aren't humongous) sit in the parcel area of the boxes and aren't getting wet in the rain or stolen.

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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2025, 03:11:02 PM »
When (not if) the government legislates the strikers back to work, I would bet $100 that Polievre and the Conservatives vote in favour.  I know they don't like the Liberals but they do love a good strike breaking. 

Any of the rest of us who benefit from union membership - ourselves or our families - should be taking note.

That said, I think Canada Post has to make some hard decisions very soon.  Alternatively the government and provinces need to make some decisions.

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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2025, 09:58:16 AM »
Just a couple of thoughts:

- I think the last mail strike impacted small businesses a lot. I have a very tiny Etsy shop, and I did send a couple of things on UPS during the last strike, but it is more expensive. A FB page that I follow for Canadian Etsy sellers is in a tither over another mail strike.

- My printer ink is on a subscription delivered through the mail. I couldn't get any delivered during the last strike, and I am going to be pissed if that happens again.

- Is mail delivery to community boxes done by contractors? Something in the back of my brain thinks this. If so, changing to all community boxes would mean job losses.

- I only check my mail a couple of times a week at my community mail box and it is mostly flyers, so I would be in favour of 2-3 times a week delivery.

- Someone mentioned the U.S. system upthread. They can get parcels picked up at their home. They just need to schedule ahead. Also, their mail is faster and cheaper than ours. I hate to say it, but this may be one thing the U.S. does better than us.

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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2025, 10:13:22 AM »
Just a couple of thoughts:

- I think the last mail strike impacted small businesses a lot. I have a very tiny Etsy shop, and I did send a couple of things on UPS during the last strike, but it is more expensive. A FB page that I follow for Canadian Etsy sellers is in a tither over another mail strike.

- My printer ink is on a subscription delivered through the mail. I couldn't get any delivered during the last strike, and I am going to be pissed if that happens again.

- Is mail delivery to community boxes done by contractors? Something in the back of my brain thinks this. If so, changing to all community boxes would mean job losses.

- I only check my mail a couple of times a week at my community mail box and it is mostly flyers, so I would be in favour of 2-3 times a week delivery.

- Someone mentioned the U.S. system upthread. They can get parcels picked up at their home. They just need to schedule ahead. Also, their mail is faster and cheaper than ours. I hate to say it, but this may be one thing the U.S. does better than us.

The women who deliver to our community mailbox in Newfoundland are definitely Canada Post employees. I see them working at the post office.

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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2025, 10:51:22 AM »
- Is mail delivery to community boxes done by contractors? Something in the back of my brain thinks this. If so, changing to all community boxes would mean job losses.

Our community mailbox for our block is across the street, locals walk to it daily to get mail (and deliver mail in the slot) as well as use the parcel size box for shipments they receive. The mailbox is served by a local employee based out of the post office hub downtown who does the deliveries after the morning staff sorts the shipments. Then of course the Post Office has all the local PO Boxes which for the most part is all of us local businesses that don't have community boxes but instead the office is our hub

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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2025, 02:04:36 PM »
It drives me absolutely crazy that the CP workers who strike don't seem to realise they are dooming themselves.

Parcel delivery makes money. Letter delivery does not. Every time there is a strike, more and more people shift to not-CP for parcels, and doubtless switch to electronic billing, invoicing, etc.

Who was it that was vehemently against community mailboxes? CP, last time (not this last time, last-last time, several years ago), if I remember rightly. Ditto cutting daily deliveries down to 3 times a week.

The mail volume just doesn't support so many jobs with so many protections that nobody else gets (because, uh, commercially it's insane).

Unions are 100% a Good Thing sometimes. They are 100% counterproductive at other times. IMHO this is a situation where the employees need to take a step back, and look realistically at what's happened over the last couple of decades. Will that mean 10,000 people out of work? Uh... yeah it's not good, I'm not saying it's good, buuuuuuuut! People just don't send letters, they send emails. They do video calls. In order to reduce paper waste we *should* be sending and receiving way less.

It's all so illogical.

And I'm in agreement that a universal postal service should exist, should be subsidised by the government if needed. Pay and benefits need to be fair and reasonable. But the first thing you need is for it to be reliable. Without that.. it's a bad joke.

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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2025, 02:22:53 PM »
Not sure I'd ever voluntarily switch away from CP for parcels personally.

I like Canada Post because they consistently have the best prices for delivery.  In Canada prices are similar to other mail carriers, but UPS, DHL, FedEx, and every other carrier I'm aware of will charge an arbitrary 'clearance fee' for stuff from the US that is usually enough to triple (if not quintuple) the actual cost of shipping and is in addition to customs/duty/tax.  Canada post only charges customs/duty/tax.

I also appreciate not having to drive half way around town to pick up my package because the carrier decided to leave a note at my door saying they attempted delivery rather than actually attempting delivery (something that has happened to me several dozen times now between UPS and FedEx . . . one 'hilarious' time I actually caught the guy leaving the note at the door whereupon he admitted that he didn't have my package in the truck and was just going around leaving notes for people about attempted delivery).

It's possible that other carriers offer faster speeds, but I've never needed something to be shipped where speed was all that critical . . . and all the other carriers are much more annoying to use from my perspective.

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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2025, 03:37:26 PM »
I actually tried to use a non CP service today and they would not accept my envelope because it was going to a PO box. Now, the PO box is in Ireland, so not sure how that's relevant, but the second they saw PO box they insisted that it needed to be sent by CP.

So I sent it by CP, and hopefully it doesn't end up in strike limbo.

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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2025, 04:34:25 PM »
I've never had door delivery in the 30 years I've lived at this address.  First it was a box at the post office, then more recently community boxes.  Everyone in this city has that.  And most people don't check it every day, because really, who depends on mail that much anymore?  Once or twice per week delivery would be sufficient for the vast majority of people, I would think.  There would be a lot of savings on mileage and gas.  If the volume of mail is too much for one person to handle, two could easily be sent on the same route.  Seems like a more efficient plan to me.

When I heard years back that the US got mail delivered twice A DAY, I was gobsmacked.


Twice daily mail ended in most parts of the US in 1950. Canada also reduced to once per day around the same time. Coincidence?

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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2025, 06:03:52 PM »
We do get the 'tried to deliver your package and missed you, come pick it up' trick quite often here, particularly from the UPS deliveries for some reason.  It's funny because DW works at home and our dogs don't let anybody come up the driveway without telling the whole neighbhourhood that someone is here.

At one point when I was looking for a side hustle I applied to CP to be a delivery driver.  I'm fairly glad I didn't get it.

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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2025, 12:05:40 AM »
Not sure I'd ever voluntarily switch away from CP for parcels personally.

I like Canada Post because they consistently have the best prices for delivery.  In Canada prices are similar to other mail carriers, but UPS, DHL, FedEx, and every other carrier I'm aware of will charge an arbitrary 'clearance fee' for stuff from the US that is usually enough to triple (if not quintuple) the actual cost of shipping and is in addition to customs/duty/tax.  Canada post only charges customs/duty/tax.

I also appreciate not having to drive half way around town to pick up my package because the carrier decided to leave a note at my door saying they attempted delivery rather than actually attempting delivery (something that has happened to me several dozen times now between UPS and FedEx . . . one 'hilarious' time I actually caught the guy leaving the note at the door whereupon he admitted that he didn't have my package in the truck and was just going around leaving notes for people about attempted delivery).

It's possible that other carriers offer faster speeds, but I've never needed something to be shipped where speed was all that critical . . . and all the other carriers are much more annoying to use from my perspective.

Yup the other companies are.. awful, particularly with the clearing fees, as you say.

I found getting a free cross-border pickup address worked well... though I wouldn't cross the border at all today, were I still in that neck of the woods.

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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2025, 07:20:23 AM »
Currently they are just not working overtime and not a full strike.  Hope they reach a deal soon and avoid a full strike.

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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2025, 07:37:13 AM »
Time to vastly shrink Canada Post.

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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2025, 07:41:33 AM »
Time to vastly shrink Canada Post.

okay...but what does that mean, exactly???

That's what we've been discussing.

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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2025, 10:37:03 AM »
As a small business owner the prepaid flat rate anywhere in Canada fully expedited tracked and including the cardboard box CP small parcel is amazing and affordable. Nobody touches this for speed and cost, I am a huge fan.

https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/en/personal/stamps-and-packaging/flat-rate-box.page


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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2025, 10:56:16 AM »
Hi hope Canada post stays.

Those delivery couriers are mostly awful for parcels.

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Re: Threat of Canada Post Strike
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2025, 08:18:04 AM »
https://www.deliveringcommunitypower.ca/

This was a very interesting read. Profitability is not, actually, the be-all, end-all.