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tannybrown

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Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« on: April 09, 2012, 10:38:04 AM »
Hi all.  So I'm a novice investor following MMM's advice from a blog entry a while back for a quick and dirty asset allocation.  In my Vanguard brokerage account, I have the following in 25% each:

Vanguard 500 Index Fund Investor Shares (VFINX)
Vanguard Small-Cap Index Fund Investor Shares (NAESX)
Vanguard Short-Term Bond Index Fund Investor Shares (VBISX)
Vanguard Developed Markets Index Fund Investor Shares (VDMIX)

Here are a list of the commission free Fidelity ETFs I can choose from for my Roth IRA w/Fidelity.  I'd like to buy so that I approach 25% in each, but as I need to buy whole shares I can't start out at that correct balance right from the get go while only buying $416.66 each month.

Can someone please help me identify which 4 most closely mirror the 4 that MMM recommended in Vanguard?  (Some are self explanatory, like the S&P 500...the bond and international are tough for me to identify.)

http://personal.fidelity.com/products/trading/What_You_Can_Trade/WYCT_ETFs_List.shtml

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2012, 11:16:15 AM »
I'm not familiar with Fidelity's ETFs, but since you already have a brokerage account at Vanguard, couldn't you just transfer your Roth there? Or are you intentionally splitting your accounts between the two companies?

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2012, 11:24:01 AM »
I'm doing a bakeoff between the two companies this year to see which I like better.

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »
I did the same thing recently with an old 401(k) I rolled over to an IRA. I have Fidelity as well.

Vanguard Small-Cap ETF   VB   (Small Cap US stocks)
iShares S&P 500 Index...   IVV   (S&P 500 Index- Large Cap US Stocks)
Vanguard Short-Term...   BSV   (Short-term bonds)               
Vanguard MSCI EAFE ETF   VEA  (EAFE foreign stocks)

All are ETFs. IVV trades free, the rest have a $7.95 commission, but since I only plan on trading once/yr tops, I'm not too concerned. You can use Fidelity's stock screener tool to find other ETFs that trade free, but most I've found to have crappy expense ratios or high initial investments, so I stuck with Vanguard funds mostly.

I also have a 401(k) at work 100% invested into VFINX to maintain a 60% balance in large-cap stocks.

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2012, 12:42:29 PM »
Thanks gestalt! I plan on investing in these ETFs every month to dollar cost average, so I'm trying to pick from that list in the link above.  Do you think you might please be able to lend your expertise to see if any of those fit the criteria?  I'd really appreciate any help you could give there.

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2012, 01:12:33 PM »
I scanned over your list and got this:

Large Cap: IVV
Foreign Stocks: EFA: ISHARES MSCI EAFE INDEX FUND
Small Cap: IJR: S&P SmallCap 600 Index OR IWV Russell 3000 Index

I didn't see any funds listed for short-term bonds, and I don't know enough about bonds in general to make a recommendation there.

All of the above have an expense ratio under 0.35%, and should be good for what you're looking for. Do some research before you invest though!

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 09:13:09 AM »
Thanks a lot, gestalt!  I used to hang around Hamburg and UB a lot during my college days -- this time of year, I miss it. 

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 10:41:55 AM »
This time of year? Living in Scottsdale? Serious?

Joking aside, we had a really mild winter this year, so things have been more pleasant than normal. And I'm starting grad school at UB, so I too will have my own UB experience.

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 10:55:14 AM »
It's been over 90 here the past few days and it's only going to get hotter going forward -- right around now, I long for the east coast spring.

Congrats on going to UB for grad school!  That's good stuff.  My wife's getting her PhD at ASU right now (that's what brought us to AZ).

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2012, 11:38:17 AM »
Buffalo will be ready for you when you eventually decide to head back.

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 11:57:57 AM »
On your list, the "Fixed Income" category are bonds.  There isn't one there that is short maturity.  However, the reason MMM recommends short maturity bonds is that changes in interest rates don't have as much effect on prices.  (If you have a 30 year bond that has an interest rate fixed within it, and interest rates in general go up, being tied to that low interest rate in the bond is much less attractive, so its price drops.  The longer the remaining term of the bond, the more effect a change in interest rates have.)  Since interest rates are so low now, its reasonable to expect the long-term rate to be higher than now.

Interest rates generally track inflation.  (If inflation was to rise at 5%/year, a bank could make a profit on giving 4% interest.  If inflation was 20%, the bank could easily offer 16% on deposits.)  So, I think the bond fund on the list that would likely match MMM's underlying reason for choosing it is TIP.  It's supposed to track treasuary TIPS assets which are tied to inflation.

For comparison, the investment types of the other ETFs are:
AGG - a broad range aggregate of bonds.  It has both long and short term funds.
LQD - investment grade corporate bonds - "investment grade" bonds are safer, so lower returns, but lower risk of default. "corporate bonds" are issued by companies to raise capital.
HYG - high yield corporate bond - "high yield" bonds are riskier than the investment grade counterparts.
EMB - emerging market bonds - bonds sold to companies in or the governments of developing countries.  Riskier, but with a higher rate of return.
MUB - mutual fund bonds - called "munis", they invest in bonds issued by state and local governments.  The primary upside to these is that the interest earned in these bonds is typically deductible from state income taxes.  Because of that, it typically doesn't make sense to buy these inside of a 401(k) or IRA.  Also, some analysts think that those tax savings are already reflected in the price, so unless you make enough money to be in the highest tax bracket in the state, you likely won't see much benefit in these.

Good luck!

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Re: Need help picking ETFs from Fidelity
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2012, 12:16:50 PM »
That's a really great writeup trammatic -- thank you for taking the time to dig into each of those bond funds and giving an overview that I could understand. 

 

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