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Mycology side hustle?
« on: July 18, 2024, 02:27:15 PM »
Anyone here have experience cultivating mushrooms?  I happen to like every variety I've tasted and would like to try some exotic strains for fun/profit.  I'm thinking like Blue Bell ice cream (Eat all you can and sell the rest).  Just wondering if this is too much trouble?  I'd start with 'easy' stuff (button/oyster) and then progress to exotic varieties, and sell my surplus with a booth at a Farmer's Market on a Saturday or maybe dry and set up Etsy or F/B marketplace.  Not looking to make a living from it (already FIRE), just want a delicious hobby that at least mostly pays for itself.  I'm useless in the garden, but I figure since I'm good at making things "rot" I might as well leverage my strengths.

Reddit was a *ahem* "medicinal" mushroom rabbit hole.  I've already met God, so no thanks...  All the other information I can find is a big fat sales pitch.

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Re: Mycology side hustle?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2024, 02:44:46 PM »
Anyone here have experience cultivating mushrooms?  I happen to like every variety I've tasted and would like to try some exotic strains for fun/profit.  I'm thinking like Blue Bell ice cream (Eat all you can and sell the rest).  Just wondering if this is too much trouble?  I'd start with 'easy' stuff (button/oyster) and then progress to exotic varieties, and sell my surplus with a booth at a Farmer's Market on a Saturday or maybe dry and set up Etsy or F/B marketplace.  Not looking to make a living from it (already FIRE), just want a delicious hobby that at least mostly pays for itself.  I'm useless in the garden, but I figure since I'm good at making things "rot" I might as well leverage my strengths.

Reddit was a *ahem* "medicinal" mushroom rabbit hole.  I've already met God, so no thanks...  All the other information I can find is a big fat sales pitch.

DH took college courses on mycology. That doesn’t help him find ‘shrooms!

But really, I would worry about liability in this endeavor other than with just plain morels. . During morel season people are selling their extra mushrooms, and I wouldn’t hesitate to buy from them because I know what to look for.

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Re: Mycology side hustle?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2024, 05:48:59 PM »
Thanks @iris lily for the warning about liability.  I'm well insured but I don't want to deal with nuisance lawsuits.  Maybe join the local mycology club and get good at one variety, then trade with the members for variety.

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2024, 05:41:46 AM »
Cultivation and foraging are different beasts entirely, as is the liability factor.

You said you are useless in a garden, which gives me pause… while the growing conditions are vastly different the basic ethos is the same (prepare your “soil”, maintain the best conditions for your organism and keep competitors /predators at bay).

Some are dirt simple to grow and can be done in your basement or closet. Others are far more finicky. Start with what you like that doesn’t require a ton of car and then scale up from there.

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2024, 07:33:38 AM »
Mycology is similar to gardening but has several differences.  It's a bit nerdier and more technical, more like lab work.  If you think you might enjoy trying it, I think you probably will.  Mushrooms are an unusual treat and growing them is fun to learn about. 


Since you're not much of a gardener, growing mushrooms will give you a good product to barter with at the farmers market.  You can sell and trade your excess produce.  Dried mushrooms are a gift you'll be able to share throughout the year. 

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2024, 09:12:20 AM »
My partner and I have joked about starting a business "Fungi and Filberts". We have 4 different stacks of mushroom logs (different types of mushrooms) and we also grow them in woodchip beds around our pine trees, and in our basement.

This probably sounds like we're drowning in mushrooms, but as they're so seasonal, we're really not. We give them away when we have large flushes. (ETA: We just made two of the stacks in the last week.... it is possible we're in over our heads!)

If you think growing them sounds fun, I promise you it is. Especially because you do the work one time upfront, and then glance around after a rainstorm to see if they're growing.

Our farmers markets already have a mushroom grower (the same guy at a variety of markets). He sells mushrooms au natural, but I think he makes more money on the finished products that he sells that incorporate mushrooms.

I've also gone foraging with a local foraging expert who made lots of money selling foraged mushrooms and other plants to high-end restaurants. But you need to know what you're doing, so start there.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2024, 09:24:40 AM »
My partner and I have joked about starting a business "Fungi and Filberts". We have 4 different stacks of mushroom logs (different types of mushrooms) and we also grow them in woodchip beds around our pine trees, and in our basement.

This probably sounds like we're drowning in mushrooms, but as they're so seasonal, we're really not. We give them away when we have large flushes. (ETA: We just made two of the stacks in the last week.... it is possible we're in over our heads!)

If you think growing them sounds fun, I promise you it is. Especially because you do the work one time upfront, and then glance around after a rainstorm to see if they're growing.

Our farmers markets already have a mushroom grower (the same guy at a variety of markets). He sells mushrooms au natural, but I think he makes more money on the finished products that he sells that incorporate mushrooms.

I've also gone foraging with a local foraging expert who made lots of money selling foraged mushrooms and other plants to high-end restaurants. But you need to know what you're doing, so start there.

I am entertaining this idea on and off. I looooove both mushrooms and gardening. Seems like a perfect match for this hobby. :D

Going to pick your brain a bit :)

What kind of mushrooms are you growing?
Which ones did you find to be a better deal based on the effort/output ratio?
How do you handle spores? Do you wear any protective equipment so you don't breath them in?
Are you able to propagate or you have to buy spores all the time??
Where did your original stock come from?

Super excited to find someone actually doing this. :)
« Last Edit: September 18, 2024, 09:28:54 AM by aloevera1 »

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2024, 09:17:48 AM »
Yes, I love talking about it! I should say upfront that we're in the Chicago area, so what you'd be able to grow outside may differ depending on where you live.

*What kind of mushrooms are you growing?

We have the following set up: shiitake (logs), lion's mane (logs, bags with substrate), chestnut mushrooms (logs, bags with substrate), blue oyster (logs - made last weekend), snow oyster (logs - made last weekend), and winecap mushrooms (woodchip beds outside).


*Which ones did you find to be a better deal based on the effort/output ratio?

We have gotten a TON of winecaps from the woodchip beds. You'll need to add fresh woodchips periodically but otherwise, take a look after a good rainfall when the weather is cool/not too hot, and see what's growing. We have started putting wire cloches on top when we see them starting to grow. That way they can get bigger without being nibbled by chipmunks before we harvest. The next largest/easiest output is shiitakes growing on logs.

The least great so far is our chestnut mushroom logs... we're still holding out hope but it's a trickier type to grow anyway. The bag of chestnut mushrooms are doing well.

And ones we tried that did not work for woodchip beds: morels (such a long shot anyway), blewits. They might have worked under other circumstances, so I don't want to give them a bad rep.

When we hear about someone losing trees, or if there's a storm and a lot of limbs have fallen, we go out and collect logs of the right size. 

My partner and his mom had a large growing tent with bag after bag of lion's mane, which produced a lot, but their method was a bit more intensive. I mean, once they set up the humidifer, etc, it was less so. 


*How do you handle spores? Do you wear any protective equipment so you don't breath them in?

We have played with growing from spores some, but those are trickier because you need a truly sterile environment to make sure other fungus and other microbes aren't invading your substrate. We had one batch that worked well (our first one, woe to our humility) and then a few failed batches. My partner would lock himself in the shower, wear a mask and gloves, spray everything with alcohol to sterilize the environment and then handle the inoculation into the grain bag. 

Generally we buy plug spawn or grain spawn, where the mycelium has already fully colonized.

We haven't worried about spores from growing mushrooms inside - not sure if that was your question! We don't generally wear any protective equipment while tending or harvesting them. We sterilize equipment between batches and after harvesting though.


*Are you able to propagate or you have to buy spores all the time??

With the bags, you can get perhaps up to three flushes before the mycelium eats through the substrate. Even then, the mycelium could survive if you transfer it to something new to grow in.

The logs last up to several years - we haven't burned through our first ones yet (from 2-3 years ago?), as they're still producing. Last weekend we held a "workshop" and invited friends to come help us make new logs, so we can keep the cycle going.

We haven't harvested spores from ours, though it is possible.


*Where did your original stock come from?

We got most of our stuff from NorthSpore, which is an online retailer. They have loads of information and videos and say how easy/difficult the various types are to grow.

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Re: Mycology side hustle?
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2024, 10:59:51 AM »
I am a local mushroom "expert", allowed to check other people's foraged mushrooms. I only forage them. A few grow in our near our garden. I once received a growing set, but that was a more hassle then a trip to the nearest forest.

My side husstle is checking mushroom online in an app. But it doesn't pay that much, so I haven't done it so often. I also do stuff for the local mycology club, but don't know what that pays after I moved here.
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