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Site changes
« on: March 22, 2015, 11:58:29 PM »
A couple of days ago I Went to "The Money Mustache Community" high level of the forum and it had changed  - it was in multiple categories (not the ones I think of either), and the order of things had changed. A bit before that our favourite exceptional poster extraordinaire changed all his boxes from yellow to red and from global moderator to administrator.

Although the groupings are not those I would have chosen, in the main, I like it. My only real objection is that it doesn't all fit on one page, and because of the extra grouping titles, it has become much longer, so involves more scrolling.

What is going on?

Is the MMM forum being revamped by a rebel - not to put it too harshly, a SPY?

What other changes are we going to see? Do you have a change management plan? And is this going to be properly authorised?

Many years ago I worked somewhere that accidentally added one keystroke to everyone's logon sequence one day. This caused untold gnashing of teeth, and finally the computer department were told that the organisation were prepared to spend ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY to reduce the logon sequence by one keystroke again. The computer department were also told that they must never introduce another change without explaining the consequences to the users.

Three years passed. Different solutions were trialed, and none worked. Amongst other vendors, an IBM solution was trialed. The IBM box was replaced in its entirety several times as well as having many more minor modifications. Untold hundreds of thousands of dollars were spent on the eradication of this extra keystroke. One day I was fiddling around with something else (that should have been entirely unrelated), and changed something that I thought looked wrong (I wasn't part of the enormous One Keystroke Eradication Team, and I didn't know what they were actually working on), and after that the extra keystroke miraculously disappeared.

But no-one had been told it would happen that day, so there was much more gnashing of teeth, and eventually the change management team pointed the finger at me. To this day I can't work out whether there was more noise about me having solved the unsolvable (inadvertently, and without costing the company a cent), or about the fact that I hadn't included the side effect that I didn't know about in my summary of what I was doing. Of course, if I hadn't even followed the rules, and instead done the change without any documentation, I am sure no-one would have ever worked out that it was my fault, or ever realised that I had changed something that day - it was a very trivial change. I can't remember what they ended up getting the enormous One Keystroke Eradication Team doing afterwards. Several months later I was retrenched. None of the One Keystroke Eradication Team were.

So I when change occurs without notification, I am always somewhat nervous.

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Re: Site changes
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 01:27:18 AM »
Go read the "mustache levels" thread. I asked sir rebelspy there and he said he was granted admin rights so he didn't have to ask for mundane changes and bother the powers that be.

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Re: Site changes
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 07:36:10 AM »
Rebs is just trying to inflict as much damage as he can before he ups and leaves us for early retirement :)

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 09:59:38 AM »
So luckily these forums aren't a giant level of bureaucracy, like the nightmare you described.  I didn't have to file any forms in triplicate before making the changes.

Just like how the blog is MMM typing shit into a computer, the forums is us users doing the same.  It's purely for enjoyment and learning.

Pete pretty much trusts me to not fuck things up too badly, but he can, of course, revert any change he doesn't like or overrule me in anything.

As the forum gets messier, sometimes things happen to tidy it up.  I'll try to remember to PM you ahead of time.  :)

Although the groupings are not those I would have chosen, in the main, I like it.

I'm glad you like it.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 10:13:45 AM »
I've done a bit of "change management" consulting in the past.

A simple post alerting users to forum changes would probably make people feel more comfortable.  It's all about communication ;-)

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 10:24:14 AM »
I like the new groupings, especially since you can "view new messages" in just a specific category.

I, too, am concerned that this wasn't properly approved by the sub-committee on forum change.  I suggest we form a task force to investigate.

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2015, 10:35:57 AM »
I, too, am concerned that this wasn't properly approved by the sub-committee on forum change.  I suggest we form a task force to investigate.

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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 10:38:33 AM »
I like the new groupings, especially since you can "view new messages" in just a specific category.

I, too, am concerned that this wasn't properly approved by the sub-committee on forum change.  I suggest we form a task force to investigate.

I think a tiger team is more appropriate. We can feed the tiger team recommendations to the Forum Steering Committee (FSC). The FSC can then debate and make change decisions by consensus. arebelspy can then implement the changes once the FSC reviews and approves the implementation plan.

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Re: Site changes
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 10:52:10 AM »
A simple post alerting users to forum changes would probably make people feel more comfortable.

That's what this thread is for.  Deborah is the mole.

Also anyone at any time can feel free to do extra work regarding the forum.  Start a thread with what you'd like to see (recent examples include things like category groupings, and mustache levels) and have whatever discussion you'd like to have, and when a consensus is reached, we can implement.  :)

Let me know what your task force concludes, and I'll get right on top of sacking the responsible parties.
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Re: Site changes
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2015, 01:19:11 PM »

What other changes are we going to see? Do you have a change management plan? And is this going to be properly authorised?
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So I when change occurs without notification, I am always somewhat nervous.

Is this post a real concern or sarcasm?  My sarcasm-detecting radar is usually quite accurate, but this post is throwing it for a loop.

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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2015, 01:30:54 PM »
I don't think I have ever been accused of being a MOLE before! Maybe it is one of those words that has a different meaning in the US to Australia, but I can't think of how I could be a mole. Maybe it's because I have only just got up.

I'll have you know that apart from the name of the team concerned (I've forgotten what it was called, but definitely not the One Keystroke Eradication Team) the entire story is absolutely true. And it wasn't government - or in any way related to government.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2015, 02:12:53 PM by deborah »

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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2015, 01:53:49 PM »
A simple post alerting users to forum changes would probably make people feel more comfortable.
Let me know what your task force concludes, and I'll get right on top of sacking the responsible parties.

What't with the red boxes by your name now? It makes me feel like you are mad (although the posts prove otherwise).

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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2015, 02:10:06 PM »
A simple post alerting users to forum changes would probably make people feel more comfortable.
Let me know what your task force concludes, and I'll get right on top of sacking the responsible parties.

What't with the red boxes by your name now? It makes me feel like you are mad (although the posts prove otherwise).

It's his power level


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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2015, 05:34:03 PM »
Safely back under nine thousand, it appears.

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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2015, 05:58:04 PM »
I thought it was not easy being green.

It is worse being red?

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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2015, 10:57:24 PM »
I thought it was not easy being green.

It is worse being red?

He probably finds it easy being green given the green working on his behalf to accelerate FIRE. Or he's just doing this to mess with us now.

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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2015, 08:57:28 AM »
A simple post alerting users to forum changes would probably make people feel more comfortable.
Let me know what your task force concludes, and I'll get right on top of sacking the responsible parties.

What't with the red boxes by your name now? It makes me feel like you are mad (although the posts prove otherwise).

It's his power level



That just made my day

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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2015, 02:46:36 PM »
It obviously wasn't easy being green - he's BLUE now!

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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2015, 02:54:46 PM »
It depends on the context; he changes the color based on the thread he's posting in, chameleon-style.

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2015, 03:03:18 PM »

Start a thread with what you'd like to see (recent examples include things like category groupings, and mustache levels) and have whatever discussion you'd like to have, and when a consensus is reached, we can implement.  :)
Where can I find this thread?  I would like to remove that ridiculous header image from forum pages.  Can't you give me a header that looks like Excel?!?

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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2015, 03:22:54 PM »
What ridiculous header message?

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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2015, 03:43:41 PM »

Start a thread with what you'd like to see (recent examples include things like category groupings, and mustache levels) and have whatever discussion you'd like to have, and when a consensus is reached, we can implement.  :)
Where can I find this thread?

It doesn't exist.  Read the first three words of the post you quoted.  ;)

What ridiculous header message?

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He said header image, not message.  I think he means this:
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/mmm+joel_logo.jpg

The easiest solution, if you don't like that, is to use a greasemonkey script or something to make it look like Excel.
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2015, 03:48:38 PM »

Start a thread with what you'd like to see (recent examples include things like category groupings, and mustache levels) and have whatever discussion you'd like to have, and when a consensus is reached, we can implement.  :)
Where can I find this thread?  I would like to remove that ridiculous header image from forum pages.  Can't you give me a header that looks like Excel?!?

http://visikord.com/ghostzilla/

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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2015, 04:45:08 PM »
It depends on the context; he changes the color based on the thread he's posting in, chameleon-style.
He is too smart for that to be the reason - he knows that every post he has ever made will change colour. There must be some other reason.

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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2015, 09:10:11 PM »

Start a thread with what you'd like to see (recent examples include things like category groupings, and mustache levels) and have whatever discussion you'd like to have, and when a consensus is reached, we can implement.  :)
Where can I find this thread?

It doesn't exist.  Read the first three words of the post you quoted.  ;)

What ridiculous header message?

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He said header image, not message.  I think he means this:
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/mmm+joel_logo.jpg

The easiest solution, if you don't like that, is to use a greasemonkey script or something to make it look like Excel.
Yes, reb, that's exactly what I mean. Don't you have a view for people to use when we're at work?  I have to look like I'm working while I'm figuring out how to quit  working! 

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« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2015, 09:26:50 PM »
Yes, reb, that's exactly what I mean. Don't you have a view for people to use when we're at work?  I have to look like I'm working while I'm figuring out how to quit  working!

Like I mentioned, a script can easily replace that image with another one of your choosing.. design something to look like excel or whatever you want, upload it somewhere, and point the script at it.  :)
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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2015, 01:19:09 AM »
It depends on the context; he changes the color based on the thread he's posting in, chameleon-style.
He is too smart for that to be the reason - he knows that every post he has ever made will change colour. There must be some other reason.

Hey Rebs, can you stop avoiding this part of the thread? What is with the back to blue?

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« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2015, 01:26:10 AM »
It depends on the context; he changes the color based on the thread he's posting in, chameleon-style.
He is too smart for that to be the reason - he knows that every post he has ever made will change colour. There must be some other reason.

Hey Rebs, can you stop avoiding this part of the thread? What is with the back to blue?
He's a boy! The other moderators appear to have changed to blue too (there's a blue ceiling)

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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2015, 01:27:41 AM »
Mmmm I thought it was blue for mods, red for admin!

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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2015, 01:35:43 AM »
No - just checked - every global moderator and every admin is BLUE

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« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2015, 01:43:14 AM »
Hey Rebs, can you stop avoiding this part of the thread? What is with the back to blue?
Maybe we weren't supposed to notice - "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."

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« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2015, 02:13:23 AM »
No - just checked - every global moderator and every admin is BLUE
Well it is now. But he was red admin, the other mods were blue.

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« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2015, 09:06:35 AM »
/shrug

It's explicable.

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