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Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« on: April 26, 2024, 06:14:29 AM »
Has anyone else noticed a recent, severe slowdown of page loads on the forums? Like 30+ seconds for any thread?

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2024, 06:18:27 AM »
Yeah, I was noticing that yesterday.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2024, 06:30:54 AM »
Same here.

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2024, 06:31:15 AM »
Cool. I thought my phone was the culprit.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2024, 10:05:43 AM »
Same problem for me. Between 10 to 30 seconds per page/thread...

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2024, 10:41:21 AM »
Anyone know who the right person to flag is?  Perhaps @arebelspy ?

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2024, 10:46:01 AM »
Anyone know who the right person to flag is?  Perhaps @arebelspy ?
Thanks for the tag.

I'll pass it along.
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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2024, 10:46:28 AM »
I will say it's been speedy again a few minutes after I noticed this thread. Maybe someone came in and tweaked something. Is it still slow for you?

Yeah, it's fast again.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2024, 12:14:17 PM »
I clearly spoke too soon! Back to slowness!

Yep.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2024, 03:19:01 PM »
Looks like there were some DOS type attacks which have now been blocked.

Speed issue should be resolved, hopefully.

Please ping me again if it is not.

Cheers!
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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2024, 03:32:51 PM »
Looks like there were some DOS type attacks which have now been blocked.

Speed issue should be resolved, hopefully.

Please ping me again if it is not.

Cheers!

Great work, thanks!

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2024, 03:44:51 PM »
Looks like there were some DOS type attacks which have now been blocked.

Speed issue should be resolved, hopefully.

Please ping me again if it is not.

Cheers!

Great work, thanks!
I'm just a messenger. Big kudos to the very responsive and helpful Mustachians who do the technical stuff. :)
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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2024, 04:04:11 PM »
I literally was thinking it was probably DDoS attacks. Glad it’s cleared up.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2025, 08:22:24 PM »
Anyone else experiencing this now or just me? It's been several days for me. All my other sites load just fine.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2025, 08:28:29 PM »
Anyone else experiencing this now or just me? It's been several days for me. All my other sites load just fine.
Me too. Paging @arebelspy

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2025, 10:18:16 PM »
Definitely been happening for about the last week.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2025, 04:32:20 AM »
I'd assume it was just my modem acting up.  Got it replaced and I still see it sometimes.


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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2025, 01:41:15 AM »
It’s got much faster over the past day.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2025, 02:54:29 PM »
It’s got much faster over the past day.

ChatGPT was scraping the forum to the point of taking all the CPU cycles. That IP was blocked, and it resolved the issue.

Thanks those who reported it so I could alert the right people to get a fix in. :)
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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2025, 03:37:19 PM »
ChatGPT was scraping the forum to the point of taking all the CPU cycles.

Quelle surprise.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2025, 05:19:32 PM »
It’s got much faster over the past day.

ChatGPT was scraping the forum to the point of taking all the CPU cycles. That IP was blocked, and it resolved the issue.

Thanks those who reported it so I could alert the right people to get a fix in. :)

Holy shit, this was my deepest fear.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2025, 05:28:18 PM »
Holy shit.

....

You can ask chatgpt to act like different users on the forum, and about conversations that have occured on this forum, and it can give references to threads and descriptions of forum names.

What in the world....

I asked Chatgpt to:

"Please describe the personality of TreeLeaf on the Mr Money Mustache forums."

"TreeLeaf is a member of the Mr. Money Mustache forums known for their candid and independent perspective. They often express skepticism toward widespread technological adoption, particularly smartphones, highlighting concerns about addiction, data collection, and societal pressures to conform. For instance, TreeLeaf has stated, "No. F*** that. The real cost of using a smartphone is WAY more than money, and not one I'm willing to pay."

Beyond technology discussions, TreeLeaf engages in various topics, including offering insights on financial matters. In a thread about financial freedom, another user remarked, "I think @TreeLeaf has demonstrated the edge of the domestic optimization curve. Well done, TreeLeaf, and congrats on a successful repair."

Overall, TreeLeaf's contributions reflect a blend of contrarian viewpoints and practical advice, often challenging mainstream norms and encouraging others to think critically about societal trends and personal choices."

What in the world....


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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2025, 05:41:07 PM »
That's nuts. It's still quite slow for me.

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2025, 05:54:07 PM »
Problem is definitely not fixed. Or maybe it has come back.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2025, 05:55:47 PM »
You can ask chatgpt to act like different users on the forum, and about conversations that have occured on this forum, and it can give references to threads and descriptions of forum names.

Are those real quotes? It sounds a bit like a generic description to me. Ofc, "TreeLeaf" no longer exists, so that might make a difference in how accurately it can summarize.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2025, 06:02:13 PM »
It definitely seems to struggle on getting specific details correct, but also has some interesting summaries of people.

For example asking it to describe Metalcat personality on the Mr Money Mustache forum it says.

"MetalCat on the Mr. Money Mustache forums is often seen as a knowledgeable and pragmatic individual with a sharp, witty sense of humor. They tend to be straightforward and direct in their communication, offering practical advice with a bit of a tough-love edge. MetalCat often focuses on efficiency and optimization, whether it's in terms of finances, life choices, or personal habits. Their posts sometimes reflect a deep understanding of the broader implications of financial independence, and they are not afraid to challenge conventional thinking, encouraging others to think critically about their choices. Overall, they bring a no-frills, analytical approach to discussions."

And when asked to describe the personality of Tasse on the Mr money mustache forums.

"Tasse, a member of the Mr. Money Mustache forums, is known for being insightful, thoughtful, and a bit of a practical idealist. They often provide well-rounded perspectives on financial independence, minimalist living, and personal responsibility. Tasse tends to engage in detailed discussions, offering thoughtful responses that focus on both financial wisdom and the mental shifts required to live a more intentional life. They also emphasize a long-term, balanced approach to financial freedom, highlighting the importance of mindset as much as the mechanics of saving and investing.

Is there a particular post or topic you're curious about regarding Tasse?"

Seems interesting.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2025, 06:04:12 PM »
Problem is definitely not fixed. Or maybe it has come back.

I feel like it was doing ok yesterday, but its definitely being super slow this evening.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2025, 06:07:22 PM »
Eh. Seems like it gets just as many details wrong as it gets right when summarizing people. Like, what the heck is a "practical idealist"?

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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2025, 06:10:43 PM »
Well, this is what Chatgpt says is a practical idealist:

A practical idealist is someone who holds high ideals or goals, often focused on improving themselves or the world, but approaches those ideals in a grounded, realistic way. They believe in principles like social good, sustainability, or personal development, but they aim to achieve these ideals through practical, actionable steps rather than abstract or overly idealistic methods.

For example, a practical idealist might advocate for living a minimalist lifestyle for environmental reasons, but would approach it in a way that is sustainable and adaptable to real-life circumstances, rather than pushing for perfection or expecting everyone to follow the same strict path.

So, while they are driven by lofty goals, their methods are rooted in practicality and they tend to prioritize making tangible, realistic progress toward those goals.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2025, 06:12:31 PM »
Ok, forum is too slow, I think I will go to sleep now lol

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2025, 06:31:10 PM »
Ah crud, maybe it is right about me :P

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2025, 06:53:02 PM »
Quote from: ChatGPT
In the "Off Topic" section, GuitarStv initiated a thread titled "Thinking of selling my Tesla. Ashamed to drive and own," indicating a willingness to share personal dilemmas and seek community input.

Uh . . . what?

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2025, 07:03:16 PM »
I think you should sell your Tesla, Stv.

In my first-ever chatGPT query, I asked it to summarize the forum's opinion of the user thorstach, and I was not at all impressed with the result. It didn't even mention quasi-religious worship.

Are we all being part of the problem, here?

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2025, 07:15:34 PM »
According to chat Gpt, I live in calgary, and work in the oil and gas industry.

The first paragraph of definition seems very vague to fit any forum user.

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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2025, 07:18:18 PM »
ChatGPT's writing style reminds me of every bullshit essay I wrote in high school just having read the book jacket.

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« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2025, 03:20:47 AM »
Yeah - the specific details definitely seem way off.

For example - I never said I dislike smartphones. I'm pretty addicted to smartphones since I use my phone to access these forums.

Like - the quote is completely wrong. I actually argued for smartphones in the thread since you can buy them pretty cheaply now.

So the details are definitely...incorrect.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2025, 06:08:59 AM »
Pages loading FAST again!

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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2025, 07:13:38 AM »
I really want to run my username through it, but don't want to sign up for it...


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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2025, 07:21:03 AM »
I really want to run my username through it, but don't want to sign up for it...

There's a free no-sign-up required version.  Go to the chatgpt website, then click on 'try chatGPT' and refuse to enter any information.  It will let you ask questions to our future overlord.

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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2025, 07:42:00 AM »
I really want to run my username through it, but don't want to sign up for it...

There's a free no-sign-up required version.  Go to the chatgpt website, then click on 'try chatGPT' and refuse to enter any information.  It will let you ask questions to our future overlord.

For some reason I can't access it -- I found a page that looked like I could ask a question, but it keeps kicking me back to the page where the only option is to sign up or log in.

Maybe the universe is trying to tell me not to go there...

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2025, 08:42:04 AM »
From chatgpt for @lhamo

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Based on their contributions to the Mr. Money Mustache forums, lhamo appears to be an engaged and knowledgeable member with a diverse range of interests. Residing in Seattle, they have shared insights on topics such as permaculture, traditional uses of native plants, and blacksmithing, indicating a strong inclination towards sustainable living and hands-on skills.

lhamo is also active in community events, expressing enthusiasm for organizing gatherings in the Pacific Northwest and collaborating with fellow members to explore potential venues and activities.

Additionally, they participate in discussions on various subjects, including the efficiency of organizations like USAID, demonstrating a critical and analytical approach to global issues.

Overall, lhamo's contributions reflect a community-oriented individual with a passion for sustainability, skill development, and thoughtful discourse on both local and global matters.

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Somehow I don't feel like this is a good fit, but I haven't read a lot of your posts to know for sure.

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« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2025, 09:04:11 AM »
Blacksmithing?

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« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2025, 11:25:21 AM »
ChatGPT is a language model, not a truth bot.

What that means is it makes shit up.

People ask ChatGPT a question, and assume it's correct because people believe AI knows what it's doing.

It's the old "you can't trust things on the internet" but worse, because it wasn't even written by a person, just algorithmically generated because it sounded good.

That being said, anything publicly available on the internet is possible for language models to scrape. That's true of these forums, OMD, or whatever else.  The journals, of course, are behind a login, and not publicly facing.

Even if ChatGPT didn't exist, the public things you post are, well, public.
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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2025, 11:59:09 AM »
ChatGPT is a language model, not a truth bot.

What that means is it makes shit up.

People ask ChatGPT a question, and assume it's correct because people believe AI knows what it's doing.

It's the old "you can't trust things on the internet" but worse, because it wasn't even written by a person, just algorithmically generated because it sounded good.

That being said, anything publicly available on the internet is possible for language models to scrape. That's true of these forums, OMD, or whatever else.  The journals, of course, are behind a login, and not publicly facing.

Even if ChatGPT didn't exist, the public things you post are, well, public.

True enough.  But back in the day, you were just a single random voice on the internet in a single user forum in a tiny corner somewhere.  When AIs are combing through everything you've ever said or done, it feels like things are becoming much more public than in the past.

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« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2025, 12:01:49 PM »
True enough.  But back in the day, you were just a single random voice on the internet in a single user forum in a tiny corner somewhere.  When AIs are combing through everything you've ever said or done, it feels like things are becoming much more public than in the past.

For sure. Before it would take much more effort to compile things. And it's only getting scarier.

Definitely a good reminder to watch what you post publicly, be it here, social media, or whatever.
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« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2025, 12:08:43 PM »
I'd mention the risks are potentially even greater given the growing rise of fascism in a country made of states combined in a unified front . . . but it might come back to bite me.  :P

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« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2025, 02:16:48 PM »
I really want to run my username through it, but don't want to sign up for it...

There's a free no-sign-up required version.  Go to the chatgpt website, then click on 'try chatGPT' and refuse to enter any information.  It will let you ask questions to our future overlord.

For some reason I can't access it -- I found a page that looked like I could ask a question, but it keeps kicking me back to the page where the only option is to sign up or log in.

Maybe the universe is trying to tell me not to go there...
I'm curious about what it'd say about me (with 5800 posts), but I run into the same login requirement.  Lame.

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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2025, 02:30:39 PM »
Chatgpt for @zolotiyeruki

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Based on zolotiyeruki's contributions to the Mr. Money Mustache forums, they exhibit a practical, analytical, and helpful personality. They actively engage in discussions, offering thoughtful advice on various topics, from DIY projects to financial planning. For instance, in a thread about dismantling a TV antenna, zolotiyeruki provided detailed suggestions on safely removing the structure, emphasizing caution and collaboration.  In another discussion regarding retirement planning, they analyzed income sources and expenses, reassuring the original poster about their financial readiness for retirement.  Additionally, zolotiyeruki reflects on personal experiences, such as acknowledging the challenge of balancing multiple DIY projects, highlighting their self-awareness and commitment to continuous improvement.  Overall, zolotiyeruki appears to be a knowledgeable and supportive community member, dedicated to sharing insights and assisting others in their financial and personal endeavors.

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Eventually I'm going to run this on myself and it will just say I'm the guy who uses chatgpt on the forum, lol.

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Re: Forum pages loading really, really slow lately
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2025, 02:46:13 PM »
It’s got much faster over the past day.

ChatGPT was scraping the forum to the point of taking all the CPU cycles. That IP was blocked, and it resolved the issue.

Thanks those who reported it so I could alert the right people to get a fix in. :)

Holy crap! I noticed the slowness too, but I didn't think anything of it. What a shock to hear it was ChatGPT!

I'm sure Google and other search-engine bots crawl the public sections of the forum too, but they never caused a problem like this. This is so typical of the "better to ask forgiveness than permission" business model of AI companies. They suck up as much data as possible as quickly as possible, and hope to get away with it before anyone objects.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2025, 03:13:04 PM by FireLane »

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