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Flipping garage sales/flea market/thrift store items
« on: February 08, 2023, 05:11:20 AM »
Hi my fellow Mustachians,
I'm considering starting my own side business of buying items from yard sales or flea market and thrift store and reselling on eBay, Amazon, Offer up and Facebook. Minimum profit must be $20. Anyone have experience doing this? Is it worth the time?

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2023, 06:00:05 AM »
My parents have done this for probably 5 or 6 years now. They have pulled as much as $15k in a year gross revenue, they usually have 60%+ net profit (not accounting for time). Just a few top-of-mind observations from talking to them about their endeavors from time to time -

-It's harder now than even a few years ago to sell products like this on eBay, etc. Try looking for a specific...anything...on either Amazon or eBay and how much of your page is sponsored SEO-optimized listings that barely have anything to do with what you've actually searched for? My parents are fortunate in that they had a couple years where their eBay storefront was able to accumulate a bunch of 5 star ratings, so theirs is often listed simply because it's a storefront with history and positive reviews.

-Following the above theme, both eBay and Amazon are very, very buyer-friendly. My parents are careful to photograph, document the condition, and describe accurately the products they sell. This takes time to research for certain product categories and even still with how careful they are, if a buyer decides that something is not as described or as they hoped it would be, the sellers are cornered into giving refunds often without any way to request the item be returned. The grand majority of their sales are issue-free, but they spend a disproportionate amount of time on the platform for a small number of issues. These issues must be addressed to the buyer's satisfaction, at the risk of being delisted for a varying length of time. Even with thousands of sales and hundreds of 5 star reviews and a ~4.9/98%+ positive rating, they still have been delisted a couple times for stuff that was absolutely out of their control.

-If the above two points don't concern you, this business is equally about volume as much as it is about selling the occasional 2000% profit item. You'll need to have a good eye for what actually sells and what doesn't, and this in turn means that it helps to do research as you go. Sometimes you learn that the strangest tchotchkes sell like hotcakes, and other times you find that there are things you thought would be surefire sellers don't actually sell at all. Typically when you go to an estate sale (hands down the best places to find items - my parents almost exclusively shop these), you're competing with others who are doing the same thing as you. You have to be able to look at a lamp and know that it has a good chance of selling as much as you need to buy the $5 box of assorted stuff and list it all in the hopes of doubling your profit.

-If it's not clear from the previous point - inventory, and inventory management are key. Maybe 10% of what my parents have listed is actively selling at a given time. There are listing fees for every item, so it's not possible to have everything you have up for sale at all times. They have to take down items and relist them at different times of the year, because you never know when a buyer is seeking what you have. And this in turn means that they have a few tables in the basement with all their inventory carefully arranged.

-I hope you realize by now, that like any business there are winners and losers. My parents have paid $1 for a box of stuff, and end up selling a single item for over $300. But there are just as many sales where they make 10% on the listing. You need to consider the time you spend buying, sorting, cleaning, listing, managing, packing, and shipping stuff.

-$20 per item is unrealistic, no matter if you're selling scrap copper, used furniture, tchotchkes, trading cards, or pretty much any category. You need to come up with the types of things you're going to sell, and then expect to have this be a slow burn of a side hustle.   

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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2023, 06:04:24 AM »
I think if you go to estate and garage sales and focus on high-demand items like mid-century modern furniture, high end vintage stereo equipment, etc. it can pay off pretty well.  Thrift stores are a little harder because they are picked over constantly so you need to either know somebody in the receiving area or work there yourself.

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2023, 07:45:01 AM »
I think if you go to estate and garage sales and focus on high-demand items like mid-century modern furniture, high end vintage stereo equipment, etc. it can pay off pretty well.  Thrift stores are a little harder because they are picked over constantly so you need to either know somebody in the receiving area or work there yourself.

There are two challenges typically associated with focusing on larger items, one is that you have to be able to evaluate them effectively for condition, operability, and at times authenticity. The other big challenge is shipping. Usually unless you're in a densely populated metro area, local pickup only sales don't get a lot of traffic and if they do, it comes at the cost of a loss in potential profit because you can only list for what local buyers are willing to pay. But on the flip side, shipping is hugely challenging at times. As the seller, you have no control over what happens in the back of a FedEx or DHL truck, and even if you do your best to package everything correctly there are cases where things are damaged. It's not always easy to file a claim with the shipper and many people in these situations are wont to blame the seller for the damage.

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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2023, 08:04:57 AM »
There are two challenges typically associated with focusing on larger items, one is that you have to be able to evaluate them effectively for condition, operability, and at times authenticity.


Authenticity is a serious problem.  I kinda keep an eye on guitar and bike stuff.  There has been a huge increase in fakes that are high enough quality it's hard to tell they're fakes from photos.

Fake guitar pickups, fake strings, fake whole guitars, fake stems, wheelsets, handlebars . . . there's a serious shit ton of fakery going on and it has only been ramping up.  I'm very careful/getting leery about buying used stuff for this reason.

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2023, 08:59:33 AM »
I think if you go to estate and garage sales and focus on high-demand items like mid-century modern furniture, high end vintage stereo equipment, etc. it can pay off pretty well.  Thrift stores are a little harder because they are picked over constantly so you need to either know somebody in the receiving area or work there yourself.

There are two challenges typically associated with focusing on larger items, one is that you have to be able to evaluate them effectively for condition, operability, and at times authenticity. The other big challenge is shipping. Usually unless you're in a densely populated metro area, local pickup only sales don't get a lot of traffic and if they do, it comes at the cost of a loss in potential profit because you can only list for what local buyers are willing to pay. But on the flip side, shipping is hugely challenging at times. As the seller, you have no control over what happens in the back of a FedEx or DHL truck, and even if you do your best to package everything correctly there are cases where things are damaged. It's not always easy to file a claim with the shipper and many people in these situations are wont to blame the seller for the damage.


I wouldn't mess with shipping. Better to find buyers locally.  They are out there. I am one of them!  I look at a lot of MCM furniture which the seller found at an estate sale, presumably for a fraction what they sell to me for.    Always best to do your research, of course, so you know what to look for.  Not hard to evaluate furniture and electronics, to be honest.

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2023, 09:12:25 AM »
Katy over at the Non-Consumer Advocate blogs about her experience doing this since she quit her nursing job. It's an excellent tutorial.

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2023, 09:12:48 AM »
Very doable...  I find stuff all the time to flip.  Don't forget to keep your receipts because the IRS threshold for accepting payments via Paypal, Venmo, FB Marketplace etc. is only $600 total before you get a 1099.  You should be claiming income regardless, but I'm just saying you will get a 1099 from them now, so there is no avoiding income tax... might as well make that tax on your profits, not your entire sale.  Someone posted here once that they would just walk into a thrift score, scan book/unopened box bar codes, list the books for sale and buy them if they sell... don't even need to risk inventory!  You'll probably find a niche over time, there's local people who buy & sell used hot tubs ($$$$!), couches, appliances, etc.  I prefer more hobby-like stuff personally.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2023, 11:49:45 PM »
My parents have done this for probably 5 or 6 years now. They have pulled as much as $15k in a year gross revenue, they usually have 60%+ net profit (not accounting for time). Just a few top-of-mind observations from talking to them about their endeavors from time to time -

-It's harder now than even a few years ago to sell products like this on eBay, etc. Try looking for a specific...anything...on either Amazon or eBay and how much of your page is sponsored SEO-optimized listings that barely have anything to do with what you've actually searched for? My parents are fortunate in that they had a couple years where their eBay storefront was able to accumulate a bunch of 5 star ratings, so theirs is often listed simply because it's a storefront with history and positive reviews.

-Following the above theme, both eBay and Amazon are very, very buyer-friendly. My parents are careful to photograph, document the condition, and describe accurately the products they sell. This takes time to research for certain product categories and even still with how careful they are, if a buyer decides that something is not as described or as they hoped it would be, the sellers are cornered into giving refunds often without any way to request the item be returned. The grand majority of their sales are issue-free, but they spend a disproportionate amount of time on the platform for a small number of issues. These issues must be addressed to the buyer's satisfaction, at the risk of being delisted for a varying length of time. Even with thousands of sales and hundreds of 5 star reviews and a ~4.9/98%+ positive rating, they still have been delisted a couple times for stuff that was absolutely out of their control.

-If the above two points don't concern you, this business is equally about volume as much as it is about selling the occasional 2000% profit item. You'll need to have a good eye for what actually sells and what doesn't, and this in turn means that it helps to do research as you go. Sometimes you learn that the strangest tchotchkes sell like hotcakes, and other times you find that there are things you thought would be surefire sellers don't actually sell at all. Typically when you go to an estate sale (hands down the best places to find items - my parents almost exclusively shop these), you're competing with others who are doing the same thing as you. You have to be able to look at a lamp and know that it has a good chance of selling as much as you need to buy the $5 box of assorted stuff and list it all in the hopes of doubling your profit.

-If it's not clear from the previous point - inventory, and inventory management are key. Maybe 10% of what my parents have listed is actively selling at a given time. There are listing fees for every item, so it's not possible to have everything you have up for sale at all times. They have to take down items and relist them at different times of the year, because you never know when a buyer is seeking what you have. And this in turn means that they have a few tables in the basement with all their inventory carefully arranged.

-I hope you realize by now, that like any business there are winners and losers. My parents have paid $1 for a box of stuff, and end up selling a single item for over $300. But there are just as many sales where they make 10% on the listing. You need to consider the time you spend buying, sorting, cleaning, listing, managing, packing, and shipping stuff.

-$20 per item is unrealistic, no matter if you're selling scrap copper, used furniture, tchotchkes, trading cards, or pretty much any category. You need to come up with the types of things you're going to sell, and then expect to have this be a slow burn of a side hustle.

This always seemed fun to me - your idea, Op - but THIS post is why I don't bother much with it.  The details, hassle, and etc. make the return fairly low per hour.  That's also a strikingly correct description of this if you were to do it as a business.  (Good job, @chemistk )

You have to really commit to make it profitable, and even then, it's competitive in many areas (especially here), so you've got to learn what sells.  Then you have to keep, store, and manage inventory. 

I don't mind flipping a rare great find, which does happen (though the last was more than a year ago), because we as a family enjoy going to these types of sales sometimes for fun.  I would sell most often just to other local buyers due to all of the reasons in this post, in addition to distance from a post office.  But beyond that, I don't try to do this as a business because...it's just too much work.  The time really adds up.  (Buying is the allure, but it's also the easiest part; the rest is the tedium and work.) 

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Re: Flipping garage sales/flea market/thrift store items
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2023, 11:45:31 AM »
Chiming in here as I've got some experience with reselling clothes from Goodwill on Poshmark. Definitely a nice side hustle - I spend about 5 hours a month actively doing things like thrifting, taking pictures, listing things, responding to comments and net $300 - 350 profit per month for the last 6ish months. You can also decide when to work and when not to, which I really like.

My biggest learning has been to focus on higher-end, higher-dollar items. My specific niche is Patagonia sweaters and jackets, might have to spend more at the thrift store ($10-20) but can typically sell for $50-70 on Poshmark.

I also have a friend in the Air Force who LOVES thrifting, she's hitting multiple Goodwills every weekend (way more work than I've put into it), and she's made $50k+ over the last few years.

Good luck and have fun!