Where to get ASTM standards?

[Scandium]

Anyone know where to get ASTM standards without paying the $50? Do local libraries have them? I used the search function for mine and it didn't show up, but I might call and ask as well. Seems like something they should have for homeowners etc.

[Allison]

Depends on what standards you need...Sometimes they are not publically available.  I have access to some if you just need a couple.

[Telecaster]

It would be nice, wouldn't it?   I'm not aware of a way to access the ASTM standards for free. 

[auxym]

If you're a mechanical engineer working a decently big company, you'll have unlimited to them (good fun). Otherwise, do you live near a university library or know someone with a university id? I used to be able to unlimited online access through my university library website, too.

Try checkout craigslist or something once in a while? I used to work in a place that actually bought the full bound-paper collection every 3-4 years. Not sure what they did with the old copies though.

And in the even less legal realm, a quick search on sketchy torrent sites seems to turn up results. Good luck.

I'm curious though: what would the average homeowner need to look up in ASTM standards?

[Scandium]

If you're a mechanical engineer working a decently big company, you'll have unlimited to them (good fun). Otherwise, do you live near a university library or know someone with a university id? I used to be able to unlimited online access through my university library website, too.

Try checkout craigslist or something once in a while? I used to work in a place that actually bought the full bound-paper collection every 3-4 years. Not sure what they did with the old copies though.

And in the even less legal realm, a quick search on sketchy torrent sites seems to turn up results. Good luck.

I'm curious though: what would the average homeowner need to look up in ASTM standards?

My work has a bunch of them, but not the one I need. Hesitant to ask since it's for personal use.

To your last question; I have high radon levels in the basement and want to check the ASTM standard to read about different remediation methods, implementation, effectiveness etc. Even if I hire a company to do it I want to speak intelligently to them, and be able to check their work.

[use2betrix]

Which ASTM are you looking for? PM me.

[Glenstache]

I'm not sure ASTM is really necessary for this. IRTC and EPA (and probably some local state agencies) have lots of great guidance documents for radon and vapor intrusion. Vapor includes solvents and other organic gasses from contamination, but the mitigation approaches are often similar.

Here's are a few examples to get you started:
https://clu-in.org/issues/default.focus/sec/Vapor_Intrusion/cat/Overview/

http://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/P100AE72.TXT?ZyActionD=ZyDocument&Client=EPA&Index=2006+Thru+2010&Docs=&Query=&Time=&EndTime=&SearchMethod=1&TocRestrict=n&Toc=&TocEntry=&QField=&QFieldYear=&QFieldMonth=&QFieldDay=&IntQFieldOp=0&ExtQFieldOp=0&XmlQuery=&File=D%3A\zyfiles\Index%20Data\06thru10\Txt\00000025\P100AE72.txt&User=ANONYMOUS&Password=anonymous&SortMethod=h|-&MaximumDocuments=1&FuzzyDegree=0&ImageQuality=r75g8/r75g8/x150y150g16/i425&Display=p|f&DefSeekPage=x&SearchBack=ZyActionL&Back=ZyActionS&BackDesc=Results%20page&MaximumPages=1&ZyEntry=1&SeekPage=x&ZyPURL

Provided you are not in a weird situation, a sub-slab depressurization exhaust fan is often an effective measure. The parts are usually a few hundred bucks, and total cost of installation usually ends up being a few grand. Note that I don't know your specifics, so can't speak to what would be needed at your specific case.

[Dyskolos]

I have found many standards through the following site:
https://law.resource.org/

Not sure if they have the one you need, and they don't always have the most recent revisions, but I have found it very useful for personal use.

[Telecaster]

I'm not sure ASTM is really necessary for this. IRTC and EPA (and probably some local state agencies) have lots of great guidance documents for radon and vapor intrusion. Vapor includes solvents and other organic gasses from contamination, but the mitigation approaches are often similar.

^ This.  Do you need to get the job done, or do you need to get the job done as per ASTM?  Not the same thing.

[Scandium]

I'm not sure ASTM is really necessary for this. IRTC and EPA (and probably some local state agencies) have lots of great guidance documents for radon and vapor intrusion. Vapor includes solvents and other organic gasses from contamination, but the mitigation approaches are often similar.

Provided you are not in a weird situation, a sub-slab depressurization exhaust fan is often an effective measure. The parts are usually a few hundred bucks, and total cost of installation usually ends up being a few grand. Note that I don't know your specifics, so can't speak to what would be needed at your specific case.

Yes I've looked at the EPA stuff and a few other things, but the info is very... basic.. I'd like to see the ASTM take on what works and how well, hoping it's bit more thorough (or course I can't know, as you have to buy it before you know what's actually in it..). 

We have a sump-pump depressurization system installed, but it doesn't bring it as low as I'd like (to ~4 pBq/L) and I'm trying to figure out what else I can do. Concrete treatment, plastic barrier, heat-exchange system etc.

[Scandium]

I'm not sure ASTM is really necessary for this. IRTC and EPA (and probably some local state agencies) have lots of great guidance documents for radon and vapor intrusion. Vapor includes solvents and other organic gasses from contamination, but the mitigation approaches are often similar.

^ This.  Do you need to get the job done, or do you need to get the job done as per ASTM?  Not the same thing.

If "just getting it done" means it doesn't work and per ASTM means it does, I agree that's not the same thing. I'd prefer the latter.

[Dyskolos]

ASTM E2121 appears to be the appropriate standard for existing construction (ASTM E1465 for new construction). There is a copy in the link below (A search for "ASTM E2121 pdf" turned it up), but be advised it is revision 03. Current rev is 13.
https://indoorairproject.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/astm-residential-mitigation-protocols2.pdf

[Dyskolos]

Some additional info comparing EPA to ASTM.
http://aarst-nrpp.com/proceedings/2001/2001_01_Comparison_of_Two_Standards_for_Radon_Mitigation_in_Existing_Low-Rise_Residential_Buildings-ASTM's_E_2121_EPA's.pdf