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SOLVED - dryer keeps tripping circuit breaker
« on: September 17, 2016, 12:13:30 PM »
I know the real mustachian thing to do would be to get rid of the dryer and line-dry my clothes, but that's not going to happen.

Anyway - about a month ago, I left our dog locked in the laundry room by accident, and he got behind the dryer and tore up the dryer vent hose.  There is not enough left of the part that is inside the wall/floor to really get ahold of it and re-attach properly with a hose clamp, so I just cleaned up the cut off end and shoved it down to the other part of the hose so that they meet, but are not fully attached.  I don't know if this is related to my problem, or just a coincidence of timing. 

So now, our dryer is constantly tripping the breaker.  It is on its own circuit.  Oddly, it does better if it's pulled out from the wall about 18", but it still trips the breaker.  DH thought it was also tripping less if he ran it on timed dry, rather than auto dry.  However, I ran timed this morning and it tripped about 18 minutes in.  Sometimes it won't actually trip the breaker, but the dryer will turn off, and then display "PF" which I assume means Power Fault or something like that. 

I haven't summoned the patience to try to trouble shoot much yet, but does this sound like the breaker, the dryer hose, or a problem with the dryer itself?  Any advice appreciated!
« Last Edit: September 18, 2016, 12:13:35 PM by horsepoor »

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Re: Trouble shooting help - dryer keeps tripping circuit breaker
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2016, 12:22:57 PM »
I think you are already onto the problem... or at least part of it.  Often poor venting can cause the dryer to over heat.  I would both try to repair the damage to the vent and at the same time really look for lint that is plugging up the vent.  Lint plugs can be anywhere ... starting inside the dryer itself, the flex hose, inside the wall, matted up on a bug-screen where it exits the house, etc.

Lint plugs not only are bad news for overheating... they can be pretty dangerous fire hazards. 

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Re: Trouble shooting help - dryer keeps tripping circuit breaker
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2016, 05:31:02 PM »
Knowing that your dog got behind the dryer and did some damage, if you haven't already, I would carefully examine the power cord for damage. They are inexpensive and easy to replace if that happen to be your problem.

As an aside the not fully connected could be worry some as heat and moisture may be getting where it shouldn't be and that is a recipe for mold.

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Re: Trouble shooting help - dryer keeps tripping circuit breaker
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2016, 05:39:09 PM »
I would definitely look at the place where you shoved the dryer hose into the wall. This probably constricted the flow as mentioned by the earlier poster.

If you own the property this would be a good time to detach and clean out the whole duct system from the inside out as the lint can build up over the years. Also removing the panel of the dryer near the lint catcher should expose a lot of lint buildup and overflow that can be removed. For instance, my dryer duct has a 180 degree bend and about 10-15 feet to travel before it exits the home and I clean it out approximately every 5 years, since the long travel distance lets a lot settle out. The first time I did this deep lint cleaning the drying time was cut nearly in half.

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Re: Trouble shooting help - dryer keeps tripping circuit breaker
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2016, 06:10:37 PM »
Well, for one, with that many trips on a breaker, it will keep tripping more easily- they're only rated for so many faults. To quote a more informed source than I:

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Most molded case circuit breakers are rated for 1000's of mechanical operations and only 2 full rated fault interruptions.
from: http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=109080

Check your power cord, make sure none of the connections got pulled partially off and are making partial contact. Replace that vent tubing, and clean the whole line out: http://homerepair.about.com/od/heatingcoolingrepair/ss/dryervent_clean.htm#step1  Then replace the breaker since it's had so many faults now. =)

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Re: Trouble shooting help - dryer keeps tripping circuit breaker
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2016, 09:38:00 PM »
Thanks guys, I will get in there tomorrow and route out any lint, try to fix the hose, and go get a new breaker.    It takes me some rallying of the patience to route out this type of problem.

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Re: Trouble shooting help - dryer keeps tripping circuit breaker
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 07:04:49 AM »
If you need to replace the hose, stay away from the plastic stuff. Flexible metal is a code requirement for a good reason, it does a good job of temporarily containing a fire, if the lint ignites.  I didn't give it much thought until I had a bathroom exhaust fan catch fire. The flames extended into the metal flex duct and the fire quickly extinguished itself. Had it been the typical plastic stuff, that was used in most older  homes in my area, it would of quickly melted through, and had plenty of bone dry attic framing  to ignite.

Also, the comment about breakers not doing well after repeated tripping is correct.  It sounds like it's tripping on overload, not fault, so it's not as hard on the breaker, but it still isn't something that you want to continue doing.  As a general safety rule, do not face the breaker, and look at it, as you are resetting, particularly if it's a breaker with a history of frequent tripping.  Keep as far back as possible, turn your head to the side, and look away as you reset. Breakers will occasionally fail by blowing apart during resetting. It is rare, but it happens. I only experienced one, in a long career as an electrician, but the are memorable, to say the least. Finally, it appears that the diagnosis of poor air flow and heat build up is probably correct, and needs to be addressed first.  However, don't discount the fact that the breaker may be failing. Sometimes swapping out a $10 breaker is all it takes to solve the problem.
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Re: Trouble shooting help - dryer keeps tripping circuit breaker
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2016, 09:01:22 AM »
If you need to replace the hose, stay away from the plastic stuff. Flexible metal is a code requirement for a good reason, it does a good job of temporarily containing a fire, if the lint ignites.  I didn't give it much thought until I had a bathroom exhaust fan catch fire. The flames extended into the metal flex duct and the fire quickly extinguished itself. Had it been the typical plastic stuff, that was used in most older  homes in my area, it would of quickly melted through, and had plenty of bone dry attic framing  to ignite.

I whole-heartedly agree with avoiding the flexible plastic duct draped over a spring; but I would go one further and say if at all possible to use a rigid metal duct and elbows in place of any flexible hose (less corrugations for lint to build up on).

If you go the rigid duct route, but the aluminum ducting and elbows that are with the dryer vent flaps and covers, not the steel stuff that in is HVAC at the big-box store.


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Re: Trouble shooting help - dryer keeps tripping circuit breaker
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2016, 12:13:10 PM »
Thanks again guys!  I guess I needed the kick in the butt.  I replaced the flexible duct and the breaker this morning, and it is most of the way through a dry cycle with no interruptions.

There was actually surprisingly little lint in the duct; I did clean it out to where it exits the house.  I guess the lint trap is doing its job.

 

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