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AlanStache

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google solar calculator
« on: April 04, 2017, 05:35:48 PM »
If you have not seen it yet google has a roof top solar calculator that looks at your homes roof angle and area then estimates ROI including taxes/loans etc.

https://www.google.com/get/sunroof#p=0

They are no doubt trying to get you to click an add to a solar installer but they say they wont share info until you select an installer.

It says I am at about a 15 year pay back period.  Solar is not the lowest hanging fruit for me to address but is still fun to look at.

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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 08:21:00 PM »
My roof "may not be ideal" for solar. That's what the city told me too. I can always cut down the neighbor's tree....

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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2017, 09:39:26 PM »
Their algorithm needs some work.

They correctly identified that half of my roof faces due south at a good angle for solar panels, but they still said it "may not be ideal for solar panels."  They are wrong, I have solar panels and they are awesome!  And profitable!

Google's project sunroof estimates that I have 511 square feet of available space, which is pretty darn close to the 492 sqft of panels I actually have.  You lose some around the edges because you can't put panels all the way out to the very edge of your roof.  Some local regulation about fireman needing to axe through the shingles.

Project sunroof also estimates that those 511 sqft of space will hold 388 sqft of panels producing 5.5 kW of power.  I actually have 492 sqft of panels producing  more like 7.5 kW.  Their ratio must be assuming you use lower efficiency panels than I have.  (mine are 270 W per panel, but newer ones are over 300 W.)

Project sunroof is apparently unaware of the local state solar production incentive program that makes my panels so profitable.  They think my panels should be $16k up front, and total $2k out of pocket costs over 20 years.  By my calculations, my panels instead cost me $23k up front after incentives, then the state pays me $5k/year for the first six years (totally paying for the panels and installation), for a total 20 year cost of negative $9k.  Plus they save me something less than a thousand dollars per year because I no longer pay for electricity, so let's call the total 20 year cost savings more like $25k.  Project sunroof is off by a factor of ten, and they think panels will cost me money while they are instead currently saving me boatloads of money.

Project sunroof also thinks their proposed panels would cover 54% of my household's electricity use.  I don't know how they arrive at this number, but they clearly aren't accounting for mustachian power consumption levels.  My panels provide more than 100% of my family's annual power use, and that's INCLUDING charging our 100% electric car with about half of our solar production.  So I don't buy much gasoline, either.  Win!

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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2017, 06:44:49 AM »
Sol did you enter your (non-solar) average power cost?  It is not clear if they are using a national average for power costs of your local rate they only ask for cost in dollars and never show kWh.  They report I have 1ksq of roof for panels but are shading out an area based on a 'tree' that is really a big bush and would have no influence on panels. 

Sucks that they are that far off with your state level rebates. 

I checked Virginia's solar incentives like a year ago and they were minimal - coal interests I assume.

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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2017, 07:32:43 AM »
My address didn't even work... It said, "Please enter an address for a specific building to see a solar assessment."

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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2017, 11:39:52 AM »
 It can't even find my area. Sigh.

AlanStache

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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 11:47:08 AM »
RWD/bender/Rural, how did you brake google?  Have you tried turning your home off and back on again?

Project sunroof came up to me on my google.fi phone as a 'you might like' thing so maybe it is not nation wide yet and I am in one of the beta areas?  Sorry for the problems.

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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2017, 07:54:10 PM »
I get "Sorry, Project Sunroof hasn't reached that area yet" which I take to mean they don't have referral contracts yet.

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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2017, 09:44:22 AM »
I get "Sorry, Project Sunroof hasn't reached that area yet" which I take to mean they don't have referral contracts yet.

Same for me here. That's alright though, the site does not have any provision for ground mounted systems and I have my eye on a particular spot for that.

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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2017, 10:51:25 PM »
It's working for me now, but results aren't encouraging.

Details:
  • average bill of $100
  • Recommend installation is 405 sq ft / 5.75KW
  • Estimated savings of $100 per year for lease/loan
  • 11 year payback if paid up front $12k
It seems like a lot of hassle to save $8 per month in my case.


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Re: google solar calculator
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2017, 09:50:17 AM »
This says Kansas is 5th in terms of solar potential.  Too bad our state government doesn't give a shit.

http://www.cleanenergyauthority.com/solar-rebates-and-incentives/Kansas/