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Greenblatt

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microwave just died, need the part name
« on: September 27, 2014, 07:38:16 PM »
It seems that this item from my Panasonic Dimension 4 microwave oven has suddenly burned (emitting foul smelling smoke inside the oven) and thereafter the microwave no longer works. I would like to know how this part is called, so I can replace it. Thank you for your help!

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Re: microwave just died, need the part name
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2014, 10:19:53 PM »
Your best bet is to find schematics of the microwave and try to cross reference parts on Digi-Key, but it could be a part unique to that microwave.

Just a little warning about working on microwaves, they have a 1000 volt ac with a 1000 volt dc offset making the voltage dip to zero and peek at 2000 volts, this is some very feisty power and has killed many people working on microwaves.

Hope you can get it going! I hate to see so many appliances hit the landfill over a $2.50 part! 

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Re: microwave just died, need the part name
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2014, 09:35:41 AM »

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Re: microwave just died, need the part name
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2014, 02:12:09 PM »
Thank you Greg, that it exactly it -- a humidity sensor.
I thought it is kind of a sensor or a fuse, but couldn`t put my finger to the exact nature.
Now I just need to find a vendor that ships this little part to Canada. Would be sad to throw away a 500$ microwave oven (Panasonic NN-C980B) just because this little thingie has died.

And to StikyBoots: thank you for the warning, I would never work on the microwave that is not unplugged. I even waited for 48 hours before starting to disassemble.


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Re: microwave just died, need the part name
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2014, 02:28:00 PM »
Thank you Greg, that it exactly it -- a humidity sensor.
I thought it is kind of a sensor or a fuse, but couldn`t put my finger to the exact nature.
Now I just need to find a vendor that ships this little part to Canada. Would be sad to throw away a 500$ microwave oven (Panasonic NN-C980B) just because this little thingie has died.
And to StikyBoots: thank you for the warning, I would never work on the microwave that is not unplugged. I even waited for 48 hours before starting to disassemble.
If you can't find it at your local appliance parts store then you could try searching the part number at FixItNow.com.  They may also offer free returns if it's not the correct part.

Short out the terminals of the high-voltage capacitor (with a shorting probe or something other than your anatomy) and you'll be fine. 

I wish everyone's dire warnings of DIY doom would be augmented with a practical suggestion on how to safely accomplish the task instead of merely "OMG seek professional help or you'll die a horrible disfiguring death!!"

I'd also appreciate a link to the statistic quoting the 2013 microwave fatality report.

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Re: microwave just died, need the part name
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2014, 01:21:29 PM »
If that is indeed an inverter based microwave oven, it may not even have the capacitor since it won't be running on the high voltage transformer like microwaves of days past.  It would use a high frequency switching power supply.  :>

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Re: microwave just died, need the part name
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 08:43:01 AM »
Thank you Greg, that it exactly it -- a humidity sensor.
I thought it is kind of a sensor or a fuse, but couldn`t put my finger to the exact nature.
Now I just need to find a vendor that ships this little part to Canada. Would be sad to throw away a 500$ microwave oven (Panasonic NN-C980B) just because this little thingie has died.
And to StikyBoots: thank you for the warning, I would never work on the microwave that is not unplugged. I even waited for 48 hours before starting to disassemble.
If you can't find it at your local appliance parts store then you could try searching the part number at FixItNow.com.  They may also offer free returns if it's not the correct part.

Short out the terminals of the high-voltage capacitor (with a shorting probe or something other than your anatomy) and you'll be fine. 

I wish everyone's dire warnings of DIY doom would be augmented with a practical suggestion on how to safely accomplish the task instead of merely "OMG seek professional help or you'll die a horrible disfiguring death!!"

I'd also appreciate a link to the statistic quoting the 2013 microwave fatality report.

I'm with you, Nords. DIY is not hard, you just need to do your homework and take the proper precautions.

If the microwave has a large capacitor (i.e. not inverted based), what you want is a shorting stick. It's an insulated stick that has a wire with an alligator clip on one end,  a metal probe on one end, and a 1K resistor in between (to prevent arcing). You attach the clip to the chassis or other grounded surface, then touch the probe to the positive terminal of the capacitor.

I use something similar as a precaution when working on my high-power vacuum tube RF amplifiers. I am an amateur radio operator, and one I use now runs 3600V.  I do my own repairs on that. They do have a bleed resistor to drain the caps, but that's one of the more common failure points.  :)

 

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