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lights and electricity in one room gone off
« on: September 15, 2019, 01:08:38 PM »
Hi there helpful people
Suddenly my spare bedroom lights and some sockets won't work. The breaker downstairs is all switched on.. I don't see any GFCI Buttons on the sockets in the room.

Weird is 2 of the 5 sockets do work. So one side of room works the other doesn't.

What should I do?  I am not used to USA sockets- in the UK we would probably have to change the fuse in the plug itself if there was a blown thing.

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2019, 02:12:04 PM »
Check the gfci in the bathrooms and around the house. They could be tied on there.  Also, flip the breaker off and back on at the panel. Sometimes they look on, but aren’t.

That should do it.  If not, there a loose connection somewhere on the circuit and it’s probably run in series. 

So maybe a neutral wire came loose on an outlet or something came out of a wire nut.  If you aren’t comfortable with electricity, you might need to look up how to do that and how to be safe.  Make sure you have a non contact voltage detector!


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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2019, 02:29:45 PM »
Thanks for your reply. I tried the box all off then all on.
Made sure all the outlets had nothing plugged in... can't see any buttons for GFCI any of my outlets. I wonder if they could be inside the plate? I took one off to see, and didn't see anything like a switch.
When I went around the room testing the elec again.. it was the same outlets and main light switch that were all out and the other two were still fine. Thanks for the help so far.

I might buy this if its the right one?: https://www.amazon.com/Klein-Tools-NCVT-2-Standard-Protection/dp/B004FXJOQO/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=non+contact+voltage+detector&qid=1568579425&s=gateway&sr=8-5


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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2019, 05:12:11 PM »
Yeah that’s what most people use.  Always check your wires before touching them! Even if you think they are off, that they don’t work, or that you hit the right breaker, double check!  I can’t tell you the number of times something was hit but not marked appropriately, or where you know there’s 2 circuits but have a 3rd hiding behind a ball of wire.  But it will only tell you if the line has power to it, not that it has a complete circuit.  You can still have the outlet “hot” without it functioning if the neutral isn’t attached somewhere.

This is still, most likely, a gfci that needs reset.

Your gfci outlets will have a visible reset and check/test button on the outside of the outlet.  They are typically rectangular.  Most likely you will find them in bathrooms, kitchens, garages, porches, and basements.  They could take out the rest of the outlets and lights on its circuit if it is run in series after the gfci.  This is normal.  But you may have to check multiple gfci’s and hit test and reset on each one.

If the house had a not so professional job of running your wiring, it may not be intuitive which gfci has that circuit.  You may even find that the outlet is under a sink or in a cabinet where it’s difficult to find. 

Gfci outlets also are more prone to malfunctioning more than regular ones.  If you know the gfci has the rest of the circuit following it, but the gfci still is functional, you may need to replace the gfci outlet. 

Now if it’s not the gfci (there’s the slight chance that you have a bad breaker too) you need to find where there is a short in a line.  This would be a black or white wire that is not connected to the next side of the wire.  (Black should be the one that is “hot” and the white is the neutral that completes the circuit) This could be at the outlet or in a wire nut nut behind an outlet, behind a switch, or in a junction box.  It would not be a good thing if you still can’t figure it out at this point.

This would be a break in a wire at some point that is inaccessible.  Maybe it’s buried behind a light fixture.  Maybe there’s a hidden junction behind the drywall. Maybe you nicked a wire with a nail or screw hanging a picture.  You need to find that spot and reconnect.  I would probably call in a pro at this point. 




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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2019, 05:14:18 PM »
Look for one of these:


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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2019, 05:16:10 PM »
Hi there helpful people
Suddenly my spare bedroom lights and some sockets won't work. The breaker downstairs is all switched on.. I don't see any GFCI Buttons on the sockets in the room.

Weird is 2 of the 5 sockets do work. So one side of room works the other doesn't.

What should I do?  I am not used to USA sockets- in the UK we would probably have to change the fuse in the plug itself if there was a blown thing.
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We had this happen once at our house. The circuits were on but no power. Turned out that one of the two 110 volt lines into the house had a problem. We had to have the electrical company fix the line. If it's similiar in the UK(multiple lines) than it's probably that one has failed/no longer connected properly.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2019, 05:27:32 PM »
Hi there helpful people
Suddenly my spare bedroom lights and some sockets won't work. The breaker downstairs is all switched on.. I don't see any GFCI Buttons on the sockets in the room.

Weird is 2 of the 5 sockets do work. So one side of room works the other doesn't.

What should I do?  I am not used to USA sockets- in the UK we would probably have to change the fuse in the plug itself if there was a blown thing.
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We had this happen once at our house. The circuits were on but no power. Turned out that one of the two 110 volt lines into the house had a problem. We had to have the electrical company fix the line. If it's similiar in the UK(multiple lines) than it's probably that one has failed/no longer connected properly.
Doesn’t sound fun.  But this would be unlikely for the OP in the US given the diagnostics we have so far. 


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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2019, 05:45:26 PM »
oh I wish we had one of those switchy gfci things- but this old condo has no outlets with that button in it.. not even in the bathroom. ugh
 

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2019, 06:41:43 PM »
That’s a major safety issue.  Unless your breaker is a gfci breaker.  Can you confirm that? 

How old is your condo?  And is it yours or are you renting?  Do you have grounded outlets?  Any idea what kind of wiring you have?

Get one of these as well. it will tell you if your outlet is hooked up correctly and will check that a gfci is working properly, if you have one.




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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2019, 07:35:11 PM »
It's possible for the circuit breaker in the main box to have the gfci button on it instead of on the individual outlets.

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2019, 08:47:54 PM »
Contact the property manager.  Or talk to your neighbors. This may happen regularly in the units. GFCI was my first guess as well.

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2019, 06:49:15 AM »
Yikes, I'm getting nervous now. Ok, so we live in a 1973 condo, we own it. There are about 50 units.
I can't remember exactly, but I do know we have old wiring... the original perhaps. Neighbours mentioned the fire hazard of this old type of wiring. I will have to ask around to get the details.

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2019, 07:00:59 AM »
i found the home inspection sheet for elec.
Here it is.
ok how much is it gonna cos to do a rewire of a 1200 square foot upstairs-downstairs condo?
We eagerly await your help dear Mustaches! But for now we are off to bring in the bacon- for our Vanguard accounts haha

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2019, 07:02:18 AM »
Does not look like gfci breakers.  If you have no gfci outlet, you have a fairly high safety issue.  Gfci outlets are required within 6 feet of a water source, in basements, exterior, garages, your kitchen outlets, and your bathrooms. They do not need to be installed for appliances, such as your fridge, dishwasher, or garbage disposal.

In your switch, you have copper wire.  Your wire “should” be fine.  I’m assuming it’s 3 wire sheethed Romex type wire.   

My guess is that you have a wire that came loose on an outlet and is then affecting the other outlets and lights down the line.  This happens more frequently with the push type wire connection at the back of an outlet, and not when they are looped around the screw.  Older outlets are also more prone to have degrading parts and it could have caused a short and some heat that finally got the wire disconnected.

Like I said multiple times up thread, you need to check those outlets that don’t work to see if they have power coming to them.   You can still have power at the outlet without it functioning if the neutral wire is disconnected somewhere. This can give you a false sense of security when opening up and working on the outlets!

And unfortunately, at this point, you’re playing guess and check.  You’ll have to open and check each connection to make sure they are ok.  And while you are at it, you may as well replace the old outlets with the new tamper resistant types. They are now required, though I personally dislike them. 


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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2019, 07:06:09 AM »
one more pic. thanks for help!

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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2019, 07:09:12 AM »
Looked at the report.  I can’t read the writing where it states you have aluminum wiring.  That should be replaced. 

A full rewire, I’ve seen quotes from $8-$20/sf.

Plus, with all electric that you have, 200 amp service would be prudent. But if it hasn’t caused you problems yet, I would keep your current box and panel.


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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2019, 07:17:41 AM »
The branch wiring is copper per the inspection report.

At this point, I would call an electrician.  Your HOA probably requires electrical repairs be done by a licensed electrician for liability reasons anyway.  They may have a list of acceptable electricians.  Call them.  If not, check the local neighborhood sources for a referral.

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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2019, 07:29:32 AM »
Looked at the report.  I can’t read the writing where it states you have aluminum wiring.  That should be replaced. 

A full rewire, I’ve seen quotes from $8-$20/sf.

Plus, with all electric that you have, 200 amp service would be prudent. But if it hasn’t caused you problems yet, I would keep your current box and panel.


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Ok. That says main line for aluminum. That’s pretty common. No need to worry.


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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2019, 07:35:45 AM »
ok good. You have all been so helpful, thanks!

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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2019, 09:55:15 AM »
1973 wire is usually new enough, a complete rewire most likely would be a huge waste of money.
From the picture of the light switch a saw what I think is your copper ground wire. Which leads me to believe you have 3 wire copper which is still the industry standard today. So dont worry about that.  Yes the aluminum is usually the main service drop. Aka the wire from the pole to your meter to your panel is usually a huge aluminum strand of wire. This too is fine and acceptable. I believe when you get into trouble when folks start to mix copper and aluminum.

My question is have you individually turned off and back on every breaker? It was mentioned up thread by papa bear I think. Often one will be tripped but you cant tell by looking at the breaker itself. It must be turned completely off and back on at the main panel.

Loose wire is possible.

Yes upgrading your service might be a good idea in the future.

Also on GFIC's

Yes these should probably be done, but its been 40+ years without them in the house another 2 years is not gonna hurt anything. Bathrooms and kitchens are a good idea to have GFCIs. Go watch some you tube videos on them. They can be a bit tricky depending on how you want them to work. Do you want it to protect a single outlet, or all the outlets down stream.


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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2019, 10:00:44 AM »
I had a similar problem once and the electrician we called found that there had once been an outdoor light that someone had removed and just cut the wires and left them. They were a couple of inches long and I guess it was all ok until they somehow managed to start touching each other.

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2019, 10:26:26 AM »
If I had to bet, your plugs are not pig tailed:



but wired like this:



There is nothing wrong with the second wiring diagram but if you burn out an outlet by:

1) Overuse or gets worn out
2) Overloading it
3) Use a plug that doesn't connect well and causes arcing

The plug and all receptacles downstream will stop working. I've seen a vacuum do this. Replaced the offending plug and all is well. Pig tailing (first diagram) is best practice and code for commercial in my area. The purpose is to prevent a 59 cent plug from killing service.   




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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2019, 10:36:37 AM »
yeah, I see that arc-ing sometimes.
I didn't mention that the two walls that our out, there is a switch on the wall, a light switch- that turns on the main light but also one of the plugs underneath- like for a lamp etc.

Yes- on that fuse box downstairs I turned off every single switch, then turned them all back on.  We could try the other main switch, that is on the building outside if I remember correctly.

 I do have about 20 screws in one of the walls that is out, the one with the light switch that is connected to an outlet too.  But the power going out there, did not match with the time I hung the art up.

I will order those recd devices to start the investigation, and see if we can see any power there.
Thanks so much everyone.

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2019, 10:46:08 AM »
Sounds like your covering all your bases.

In searching for a loose connection Id 1st check the boxes (switches, outlets/lights) that are closest to the outlets that are out. Think about if you were an electrician and wanted to use the LEAST amount of wire from the main panel how would you wire the room? Get started there, and of course double and triple check every thing you touch for live current!

Playing electrical detective is probably the hardest thing to figure out in home improvement. After you spend your $20 bucks in tools and if you still cant find it I would call an electrician. Sometimes people do really bad/stupid wiring on houses and its dang near impossible to find. There is no shame in it, could be something super simple but your paying the guy for his knowledge and experience not the actual time he is spending working. Well your paying for that too, but dont be mad if he fixes it in 5 mins and charges $200!


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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2019, 10:54:41 AM »
lol yeah. I have no hesitation getting the electrician in when I have to give up on my detective work.

I probably have overloaded that switch and outlet- it had a lamp in it- the type that has 6 bulbs coming out like a tree- and I put the brightest strongest LED bulbs I could find in every arm. I need a lot of light being a painter, but maybe it was too much for the wee lamp. I should try plugging that lamp in somewhere else, see if it works or if it was the culprit. Will do this when I get home.



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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2019, 11:00:09 AM »
If there was a loose receptacle, that can be the culprit too. Are there any receptacles that move when you plug things in. This can wiggle a wire off over time or break a wire over time.

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2019, 11:13:06 AM »
lol yeah. I have no hesitation getting the electrician in when I have to give up on my detective work.

I probably have overloaded that switch and outlet- it had a lamp in it- the type that has 6 bulbs coming out like a tree- and I put the brightest strongest LED bulbs I could find in every arm. I need a lot of light being a painter, but maybe it was too much for the wee lamp. I should try plugging that lamp in somewhere else, see if it works or if it was the culprit. Will do this when I get home.

Lights generally are not going to overload an outlet. Those suckers can handle lots of abuse. LED blubs use so little juice. Usually its something super power hungry like a hairdryer/space heater/window ac that does it.

And then you just flip the breaker again.

The math is Amps*Volts = watts. So 120*15= 1800 watts, so you would need about 180 LED bulbs to trip a breaker.......




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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2019, 11:23:56 AM »
ah good to know, well nope, nothing super power-hungry in that room. lights,  ipod, that is it really.
I don't have any jiggle of note
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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2019, 12:46:42 PM »
i found the home inspection sheet for elec.
Here it is.
ok how much is it gonna cos to do a rewire of a 1200 square foot upstairs-downstairs condo?
We eagerly await your help dear Mustaches! But for now we are off to bring in the bacon- for our Vanguard accounts haha

Yikes, you have hit the trifecta
- Aluminium wiring
- No GFCI
- 125 Amp panel.

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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2019, 01:38:40 PM »
i found the home inspection sheet for elec.
Here it is.
ok how much is it gonna cos to do a rewire of a 1200 square foot upstairs-downstairs condo?
We eagerly await your help dear Mustaches! But for now we are off to bring in the bacon- for our Vanguard accounts haha

Yikes, you have hit the trifecta
- Aluminium wiring Main connector, this is like all houses
- No GFCI  No houses had gfci in 1973, everything IS grounded
- 125 Amp panel. Its a 1200ft condo not a google data center

I dont see anything posted so far that is cause for alarm.





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« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2019, 01:45:03 PM »
Thank you Jon, I appreciate that comment, as it can be a little scary hearing bad news like that - I want to take a measured approach and not freak out. Just do what i need to do.
That is what cash reserves are for after all.

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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2019, 02:17:09 PM »
Quick Electrical wiring primer from Jon Bon who is not a licenced electrician but has seen enough old wiring to know his way around a  panel.


From Least Safe to Most Safe*

Knob and Tube -(copper) OLD >100 years plus. 2 wires only (hot and neutral) physically separated in the walls. Run thru studs (tube) held onto studs with a round Knob. Not inherently dangerous on its own. Just old so often the insulation has worn off wire themselves. Not designed for serious loads (hair dryers etc) also often has been extended over the years and overloaded. Mostly likely should be replaced.

2 wire insulated - (copper) in-between K&T and modern stuff you dont see a ton of this. Slightly better then K&T usually sized better to handle more load. Ungrounded but usually 60+ years old at most so insulation around wire is in better shape.

3 wire romex - (copper) same as above just newer so insulation is in better shape still. Adds the third ground wire. Current is suppose to go through ground wire instead of you. Code for most of a house excluding kitchens/baths

3 wire romex with GFCI - safe still contains a mechanical Ground Fault Circuit Interrupt.  Basically stops the current from going though a person mechanical with a process. This is great and SUPER safe, basically you can stick your finger on a live outlet and not get shocked! The weakness here is they are mechanical and can/do fail over time. Code for kitchens and baths

AFCI - meh something that is probably too sensitive for its own good, I wont get into it here. Code for some houses but I feel is kind of dumb

Aluminum wire is usually used outside on the main lines and the "service drop" where the electric company drops the wire to your power meter and into your main breaker box.

Aluminum wire has been used in lieu of romex in the past. Its not bad per say but mixing the connections of the two is bad. I dont know a ton about aluminum wire to fixtures so I will leave that alone.

*I am ALWAYS happy to learn more if someone else has different/more information.
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« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2019, 03:30:03 PM »
i found the home inspection sheet for elec.
Here it is.
ok how much is it gonna cos to do a rewire of a 1200 square foot upstairs-downstairs condo?
We eagerly await your help dear Mustaches! But for now we are off to bring in the bacon- for our Vanguard accounts haha

Yikes, you have hit the trifecta
- Aluminium wiring Main connector, this is like all houses
- No GFCI  No houses had gfci in 1973, everything IS grounded
- 125 Amp panel. Its a 1200ft condo not a google data center

I dont see anything posted so far that is cause for alarm.
The only thing with the 125 amp box, it has a range, dryer, AC, heat, and h2o tank.  My hvac guy said I could have problems with 3 major appliances on 100amp.  This has 5.  You can overload the main if you run too much.  200 amp is better, but if you haven’t had an issue yet, you’re probably fine.  If you’re ever going to replace your panel, you may want to size up to 200amp service. 




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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2019, 03:47:52 PM »
Gadgets ordered. Looking forward to having husband try all your tips out. He says thanks for being helpful too.
If there are any other bases to cover while we investigate, let me know.

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« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2019, 04:11:39 PM »
strange development!!!

I just said to husband, imagine if I go in there now, and it all turns on- 2 secs later. WHAT! All the sockets and the light works!
(It did make a slight snapping sound the first two times.. but now is fine. we often get that snapping noise)
What the heck!???
HB said he had the hour before, just switched everything off then on again at the circuit box... but we had done that twice already yesterday and this morning!

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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2019, 04:23:21 PM »
If you hear snapping / popping, then you need to try and take care of this ASAP.  You probably have a loose connection that is just barely touching.  The popping / snapping is arcing electricity. That can cause some big problems and could overheat and either melt your plastic, or worst case spark a fire. 


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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2019, 04:41:13 PM »
ok good to know, we will look into that. I forgot it often made that noise.

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2019, 10:55:39 AM »
If I had to bet, your plugs are not pig tailed:



but wired like this:



There is nothing wrong with the second wiring diagram but if you burn out an outlet by:

1) Overuse or gets worn out
2) Overloading it
3) Use a plug that doesn't connect well and causes arcing

The plug and all receptacles downstream will stop working. I've seen a vacuum do this. Replaced the offending plug and all is well. Pig tailing (first diagram) is best practice and code for commercial in my area. The purpose is to prevent a 59 cent plug from killing service.

Index more than likely already knows this, and OP's condo does not seem to have any GFCI receptacles. But just in case OP adds GFCIs anywhere, or for the benefit of anyone who may stumble upon this thread and see these images:

Everything in index's post is technically correct. But the second image shows a GFCI receptacle, so the pigtail vs. straight-through wiring is not the only difference between the two images. The pigtail method should not be used to wire between the GFCI and the first outlet downstream of a GFCI. This is because a GFCI receptacle has dedicated sets of terminals for line (power feed) and load (downstream outlets that are also protected by the GFCI). At the GFCI receptacle, the separation between line and load should be maintained. But in other situations of outlets in a string (like the first image), pigtailing is a good method for ensuring that a failed device doesn't affect other devices on the circuit.

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2019, 02:39:52 PM »
Inspect the wiring at the two outlets that work that are closest to the ones that don't.  Then inspect the two that don't work that are closest to the ones that do.  Like, the ones on the "edges" of the problem.

Also--don't electrocute your self.
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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2019, 04:54:04 PM »


Also--don't electrocute your self.
:) mostly I am going to work on this part :)
I will inspect for looseness, and whatever else that looks different.

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2019, 05:33:57 PM »
If the circuit fails again, you can start tracing the hot circuit with the chicken stick, and trace the neutral with a multimeter set for audible continuity.  Youll probably need retractable leads for that.The circuit testers are good but they rely on a hot wire(otherwise they won't illuminate--no voltage).


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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2019, 04:55:20 PM »
If I had to bet, your plugs are not pig tailed:



but wired like this:



There is nothing wrong with the second wiring diagram but if you burn out an outlet by:

1) Overuse or gets worn out
2) Overloading it
3) Use a plug that doesn't connect well and causes arcing

The plug and all receptacles downstream will stop working. I've seen a vacuum do this. Replaced the offending plug and all is well. Pig tailing (first diagram) is best practice and code for commercial in my area. The purpose is to prevent a 59 cent plug from killing service.

Every that I recall dealing with in my current house (cannot recall prior houses), including those that I have installed (new in the last 5 years) or pulled out (installed circa 1991) have jumper between the 2 screw on the side of the outlet and the condition of the outlet (through use) will not impact this connector. This is the same tab that is removed if the top and bottom outlets are on different hot wires.

Perhaps older outlet are different.

Also your second image depicts a GFCI (I assume you meant the wiring style without a GFCI) in which case the wiring in image 2 is the only way to ensure downstream outlets are protected (pigtailing would result in no GFCI protection downstream).

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2019, 05:59:39 PM »
The only thing with the 125 amp box, it has a range, dryer, AC, heat, and h2o tank.  My hvac guy said I could have problems with 3 major appliances on 100amp.  This has 5.  You can overload the main if you run too much.  200 amp is better, but if you haven’t had an issue yet, you’re probably fine.  If you’re ever going to replace your panel, you may want to size up to 200amp service. 

One of the sheets said "Florida" so the heat is unlikely to see much use. In addition as newer appliances are generally more power efficient, I can't imagine that 125 amps shouldn't be plenty. Especially for only 1200 sf.

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« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2019, 06:17:08 PM »
Ever figure this out?


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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2019, 04:30:57 PM »
Thanks for checking in with me. I never bothered my lazy arse to do anything since the lights and elec are still working fine!
But I have saved all this info for when it becomes an issue again. Thanks for all your help- I really appreciate it.

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2019, 08:27:26 AM »
A reminder that the snapping sound if likely electricity arcing somewhere. It is sort of a final warning before you could have problems. Trust me - an inspection by an electrician is cheaper than a fire. This is isn't something to ignore.

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2019, 10:09:08 AM »
I had a similar issue in my bathroom and it turns out an outlet in the garage is GFCI, and that had tripped.  resetting that one brought the bathroom lights back online.  Weird.

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2019, 10:39:18 AM »
My guess is your outlets are wired using the 'push in' connectors for the wiring.   
Those are notorious for losing their bite and causing the exact issue you've described.   
The outlets and light that quit would be downstream of the outlet with the issue.

Our son had the same problem in a home he owns about a year ago (home built in 60's or 70's). 
I replaced all the outlets in the room with the issue and attached the wiring onto to the outlet terminals (wire wrapped around terminal and screwed tight).   No problems since.   

Outlets are cheap, just replace all the outlets in that room.
Here's a youtube video that shows how to release the 'push in' wire connector.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYgj15F4SoQ

The sparking / arcing sound you heard are indicators of the issue. 
As others have said, that's a fire hazard, replace the outlets in that room even though they are working now as the issue is still there.

Be sure power is off to all outlets in the room, check with the non-contact tester you stated you were ordering.

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2019, 06:11:49 PM »
Thanks! I will do that, which is easy to do. I haven't heard any sparks for a while now. Weird how it just resoved itself.. but I should do this at least. Thanks for the prompt

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Re: lights and electricity in one room gone off
« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2019, 01:34:37 PM »
Thanks! I will do that, which is easy to do. I haven't heard any sparks for a while now. Weird how it just resoved itself.. but I should do this at least. Thanks for the prompt
Yeah... unlikely that anything "resolved" here.  Maybe your house shifted with the weather.  You should still resolve this, hire someone if necessary.  Arcing is bad news.

 

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