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I remodeled my own kitchen (almost)
« on: November 23, 2015, 10:53:21 AM »
Back in March, my wife and I kicked off a remodel of our kitchen that we planned to do ourselves.  Different projects started and paused, work demanded travel and things have dragged all year.  But here we are 8 months later, and the damn thing is nearly done.  I'm also happy to say that we've done nearly everything ourselves (with the exception of drywall texture and tile work). 

For the tl;dr version, just skip to the picture at the bottom.  For the rest, here are some highlights.

Background: We bought our 1959 house about 7 years ago, loved the size of the kitchen but hated most of the rest of.  The wall color was bad, the cabinets were beat to hell, the drawers on wooden guides were a pain, the flesh colored laminate countertop looked gross.  This spring the sink drain started leaking inside the wall, causing a huge moldy mess.  Within a couple weeks, we also had a gas leak in the wall oven.  Those two events inspired us to finally tackle this project, while taking care of 2 kids (4 yrs and 1 yr).

Cabinets: The cabinets have survived 60 years and the frames are in great shape.  We decided to strip down the frames a repaint them.  We ordered new doors, drawer boxes, drawer fronts, drawer slides and hardware online.  Keeping the existing cabinets proved challenging at times because the sizes were non-standard.  The original 1959 sink was 27" wide and we had to hunt to get a new one to fit.  Same problem with the sink.  We also cut some new holes in the frame to add a drawer and a new door.

Shelves/Backsplash: Open shelving was on my wife's wishlist.  We removed part of the soffit and took down some of the upper cabinets.  The whole wall got tiled and we mounted 12 steel brackets that we found on Etsy.  The boards are 12x2 hickory that we distressed ourselves using a combination of vinegar/steel wool, hand scraping, stain, shellac and finally wax.  The tile is 2x4 mini-subway tile that came in mosaic sheets.  We ended up hiring someone to do the install for us because I was travelling for work, though I fought hard.  In the end he did a great job and had it knocked out in 1.5 days, as opposed to the week it would have taken me.

Countertop: The countertop is maple butcher block.  We bought sheets (an 8 ft and a 12 ft) of butcher block from Lumber Liquidators and then cut them ourselves, including the undermount sink.  We finished the butcher block with something like 12 coats of WaterLox.  It's hard to see the sink, but it's a single bowl black composite granite.  It's big enough to bathe children or slaughter livestock.

What's Left: We have a few things left to do.  Though it's not pictured, I have installed the range hood.  We still need to paint and install the upper cabinet doors and add knobs everywhere.  We also want to do something with the lighting over the island to replace the temporary bare bulbs you see.  Phase 2 in 2016 will include opening the kitchen into the living room and refinishing/replacing the floors throughout.

The budget: All in, we came in under $10K.  The breakout is below.  This includes a grand for the initial plumbing/gas leak disasters: plumbing repair, environmental inspection, framing repair (because the plumber cut some studs) and testing for the gas leak.  We have a lot of stuff hiding in the "Misc" category, because I need to go through and split some receipts.

All in all, this has been a great learning experience.  It tried out patience at times, but really patience was the only thing we really needed.  Once we committed to a direction, no single task was all that challenging.  I'm glad we've done it ourselves and we've inspired at least one neighbor to start their own remodel. 

If anyone has questions on specific steps, I'm more than happy to share what we did and what we learned.

Category  Amount Spent
Appliance - Cooktop  $789
Appliance - Wall Oven  $889
Backsplash - Labor  $700
Backsplash - Materials  $275.52
Cabinets - Doors & Drawer Fronts  $749.24
Cabinets - Drawer boxes  $205.98
Cabinets - Drawer guides  $152.85
Cabinets - Hardware  $260.59
Countertops  $772.69
Door trim  $110.45
Drywall - Labor  $200
Drywall - Materials  $47.8
Electric  $80.44
Environmental Inspection  $295
Framing repair  $300
Garbage disposal  $170.72
Gas leak check  $75
Kitchen sink  $329.68
Kitchen sink - Mounting  $39.85
Lightbulbs  $157.99
Misc  $407.84
Organization  $83.2
Paint  $235.37
Paint stripping  $94.03
Painting  $214.63
Plumbing  $42.67
Range hood  $347.72
Shelf boards  $345.84
Shelf hardware  $290.14
Sink drain repair  $375
Sink lighting  $107.17
To split  $74.52
Tools  $78.54
Wood finish  $12.16
Grand Total  $9310.63

Here is a collage of before and after, with some progress shown along the way:

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Re: I remodeled my own kitchen (almost)
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2015, 11:25:34 AM »
That looks really amazing! Great job! I love little DIY projects, but I don't think I would have the guts to take on a kitchen reno.

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Re: I remodeled my own kitchen (almost)
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2015, 06:00:21 PM »
Congratulations! Looks awesome. I love subway tile with grey grout - good choice.

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Re: I remodeled my own kitchen (almost)
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2015, 06:16:23 PM »
I would love to see glass doors on the upper cabinets, but it's a minor quibble. It looks very high end.


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Re: I remodeled my own kitchen (almost)
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2015, 08:18:53 AM »
That looks really amazing! Great job! I love little DIY projects, but I don't think I would have the guts to take on a kitchen reno.

Thank you.  It was a daunting project, but in the end I realize it was mostly a series of relatively small projects.  For example, I didn't know how to strip paint off those cabinets but I learned, put in a little time and checked that one off the list.  I didn't know how to install molding, but read up online and decided, "Hey, that's a pretty small project that I can tackle after all."  Like I said above, patience was the biggest thing we need.

Congratulations! Looks awesome. I love subway tile with grey grout - good choice.

Thanks, we love it too.

I would love to see glass doors on the upper cabinets, but it's a minor quibble. It looks very high end.

We're still going to put doors on the uppers, but they are going to be solid white.  We thought about doing glass, but decided we wanted enough space to "hide" stuff.  The shelves will be where we get to put things on display.

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2015, 11:37:47 PM »
Congratulations! It looks great! I really like the countertop/cabinets color combination.

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Re: I remodeled my own kitchen (almost)
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2015, 05:20:27 AM »
Looks great !   Even more impressive that you did it with two small children in the house! 

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2015, 05:43:09 AM »
Wow, great work!  Am in a similar boat, house from 1963 original kitchen.  Academically I can see that it is a series of 20 small to large projects but over all it looks intimidating. 

Did you have to move any utility lines or did everything go back where it started?  Was your SO on board with idy from the start or did that take some negotiation?  With doing it over a year your kitchen was basically usable most of the time-only when actually in the middle of something were you washing dishes in the bathroom?

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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2015, 06:01:03 AM »
Did you buy or build the island? I love that it has semi hidden shelves on one side.

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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2015, 10:34:32 AM »
Wow Kstock, it's gorgeous. I'm hoping to do the same thing to my kitchen in a few years.  I'd like to know your source for the doors and drawers boxes.

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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2015, 10:40:41 AM »
Congratulations! It looks great! I really like the countertop/cabinets color combination.

Thanks!

Looks great !   Even more impressive that you did it with two small children in the house! 

The kids were the biggest obstacle to progress on this.  During the week, I'd get home between 5:30 and 6 and the kids go to bed around 7:30/8.  So, if I have loud work (which included anything using a drill, sander, shop vac, etc.) I'd have to try and get it done before bedtime.  That usually meant me working while the rest of the family had dinner.  After bedtime I could do quiet work, but it never seemed like much of the work was quiet.  The kids also meant that my wife and I could rarely both be working on the project, someone would have to be the full-time babysitter.

There were some things the kids enjoyed though.  My 4 year old daughter loves putting on her headphones and running the shop vac.  My 1 year old son loves climbing up step stools behind me and screaming when I don't yield the right of way.  Not especially helpful, but kept him busy.

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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2015, 11:02:01 AM »
Wow, great work!  Am in a similar boat, house from 1963 original kitchen.  Academically I can see that it is a series of 20 small to large projects but over all it looks intimidating. 

Did you have to move any utility lines or did everything go back where it started?  Was your SO on board with idy from the start or did that take some negotiation?  With doing it over a year your kitchen was basically usable most of the time-only when actually in the middle of something were you washing dishes in the bathroom?

We didn't have to move any gas or water lines.  I did have to fiddle with the electric some.  When we took out the soffit, there were wires inside and they didn't have enough slack to just move out of the way.  So, I had to add a couple boxes and stick some wires in there.  I also had to add a duct to vent the range hood outside (not pictured).  The previous owner had just vented the hood directly into the attic.  I didn't venture up to explore the lake of grease that has probably accumulated over 60 years.  Sigh.  So, I had to punch a hold through the exterior brick wall to get that in.

In phase 2, 2016, we will be taking out the wall opposite the counters (not pictured) to open the kitchen up into the living room more.  There is a closet on that wall with the gas water heater in it.  So, we will need to move the gas lines, the water lines and water heater to a utility closet in the middle of the house.  We won't be doing any of that work ourselves.

We started out both very much on board with a DIY project, but ran into two major problems.  First, I start travelling more for work so I could do less during the week and weekend time became more valuable.  Second, we learned that my wife does not have the attention to detail required to get the results either of us were satisfied.  She voluntarily quit helping because she admitted her work just didn't come out as nice as mine and she didn't fault me for wanting to redo it.  These limitations slowed us down quite a bit.

We negotiated hard on the tile work.  I had planned to do this myself, knowing that it would probably take me two weekends if I couldn't get a competent helper.  My wife found a recommended tile guy to do the install for $700.  He and his partner did it all over 2 days while I was out of town for work and they really did a great job.  I don't know if I could have gotten the grout lines to look as nice as they did.  If we were only tiling the backsplash instead of the entire wall, I probably would have done it myself.

Yes, our kitchen was basically usable for most of the time.  You can't tell from the pictures, but the kitchen is actually only half of a huge room.  We setup a temporary kitchen on the other side of the room storing cookware on an old table, in bins and plastic drawers.  We also brought our camp kitchen table in from the garage to setup our microwave and other storage.  The appliances were still usable, we just had to clear everything out of the cabinets while we stripped and painted.  This probably also made the work go slower because I would constantly have to stop, clean everything up, remove any drop cloths and such so that we could cook and eat.

The fun part came when we had to do the counter.  This was the "dark period" in the remodel and we don't like to talk about.  I had left the old counter in while we repainted the cabinets specifically so the space would still be usable.  When it came time to put in the counters, we had to pull the old one out so we could measure and fit the new one.  The new one then had to be finished in the garage over the course of 4 weeks.  I planned to put the old counter back in during those 4 weeks, but accidentally destroyed it and the old garbage disposal in the process.  This meant no counter, no sink, no dishwasher and no cooktop.  The oven was still usable.  We had planned ahead for those weeks by pre-cooking a of freezer/crockpot meals and also stocking up on paper/plasticware.  For those 4 weeks we either did dishes in the bathroom or just out on the driveway with the house. 

Amazingly, after those 4 weeks, all the planning, measuring, fitting, etc. came together in one amazing Saturday.  My brother-in-law and I basically slammed in the new counters, new sink, new garbage disposal and new cooktop in 4 hours.  In one feel swoop we had a whole new kitchen.  And my wife had a whole new outlook on life and my continued position in it. :)

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Re: I remodeled my own kitchen (almost)
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2015, 11:04:07 AM »
Did you buy or build the island? I love that it has semi hidden shelves on one side.

That's actually an Ikea island: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00116996/

We've had it for a few years.  Once we take out the wall to open the space, we're going to reevaluate the island situation.

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2015, 11:10:10 AM »
Wow Kstock, it's gorgeous. I'm hoping to do the same thing to my kitchen in a few years.  I'd like to know your source for the doors and drawers boxes.

We got the doors and drawer fronts from http://fastcabinetdoors.com/.

We got the drawer boxes from https://www.barkerdoor.com/.

The door makers offer hings (Euro style) and drawer slides, but I didn't feel comfortable with the hings because these old cabinets have plywood frames.  So we got hinges from http://www.hardwaresource.com/ and the drawer slides from http://www.cabinetparts.com/p/accuride-side-mount-drawer-slides-glides-AC383222.  The drawers and slides may have been one of the trickier parts of the project, but I really didn't have the experience to know how to measure or how they would fit.  A couple of the boxes ended up too wide by 1/16" or so and I had to sand them down.  It just took time and patience to custom fit all those elements.

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Re: I remodeled my own kitchen (almost)
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2015, 11:42:02 AM »
Great job! DH and I remodeled the main living areas of our home together. It was a slow process that took over a year. He is a licensed electrician so was able to do a few nice lighting elements we otherwise would have skipped. He refinished our existing cabinets because they are a unique one piece of wood, cut out doors, sort of seamless looking with these invisible hinges. Had we not refinished what was there, it would have meant all new bases... ack! We are selling our place and did invest in granite and stainless appliances (both of which we detest). DH did all the work except the counters. As such, we avoided a long dark period because he ripped out the old counters (old, old tile, could not salvage) put on new plywood bases for the installers to set the granite on. We only had 3 days of no sink, but our utility room has a big sink so our dishes lived there for that time. I am the more detail oriented of us two so did some of the small detail work. I helped with painting as well. Our remodel included Family room, dining, kitchen, an office and the main bathroom. It was dusty, smelly, sticky, just yucky all around, but we love it now! our total budget for all rooms was 30k, the Kitchen was 11k because of the appliances and counters.

Impressive all around! Good luck on phase two:)

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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2015, 01:02:54 PM »
Oh man! That is beautiful and an inspiration. We have a functional kitchen that we will be renovating due to losing a window to a new mudroom and taking out a wall between the kitchen and the bathroom....and we need/want to get rid of a horrid forest green laminate counter top that is starting to bubble.

Your kitchen makes me want to go home and start pulling it apart tonight but I think my husband would have something to say about it!

I keep thinking about wood countertops but I am sketched out by potential issues with water and wear,  I guess if you coat them enough they stay sealed?


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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2015, 01:52:05 PM »
I keep thinking about wood countertops but I am sketched out by potential issues with water and wear,  I guess if you coat them enough they stay sealed?

Time will tell.  We used a product called Waterlox to seal the countertops.  This is the product that came up time and time again when I researched online.  Still, I know that the butcher block is not going to be as impenetrable as granite or something like that.  We're just going to be happy letting it take abuse and show its age over time. 

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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2015, 11:59:44 AM »
Waterlox is pretty awesome. I used it on the floors of my entire house. Being able to do spot treatments is a huge advantage over poly.
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2015, 07:06:24 PM »
Fantastic.  I especially like how the butcher block countertops came out - I'd like to do something like that at my place someday.  How challenging was all the sealing you did?

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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2015, 07:59:08 PM »
Fantastic.  I especially like how the butcher block countertops came out - I'd like to do something like that at my place someday.  How challenging was all the sealing you did?

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We decided to seal the top and the bottom, which made it more challenging. When we started selling the top we used a brush but then realized we couldn't avoid getting drips on the edges.  So, I switched to applying the dealer with a cloth. This was easy, but took twice as many coats.  So, 8 coats per sue with 24 hours to dry in between. It was easy to apply, but just took a long time.

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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2015, 05:00:31 PM »
YOu guys did a beautiful job!!  We used Waterlox on an antique bed and it has lasted forever but of course it doesn't get wet:))

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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2015, 12:59:22 PM »
NICE! job..!

 

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