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How did you learn to DIY?
« on: September 13, 2022, 09:54:29 AM »
Over the years as a DIYer, I have been asked numerous times, "How do you know how to do that?".  I often am not sure how to answer, I just do things and figure it out never thinking much about whether or not I knew how to do it in the first place.

I probably learned quite a bit about construction and remodeling by watching Bob Villa and Norm Abram as a youth, but really learned by gutting and remodeling a bathroom by myself over a few months.

No idea how I learned about plumbing, but was complimented(and offered a job) by a plumber that saw my work after he had me reconfigure some pipes to fit a new water treatment system.

I learned quite a bit about cars by watching a neighbor work on cars as a youth and also took an auto mechanics class and an auto body class in high school at our local tech school, but really learned about car repairs by repairing my own brakes, throttle bodies, sensors, exhaust gaskets, and even an ECU replacement. 

I learned about electronics, small engine repair, and how to weld from a tech ed teacher in high school and learned how to use a mill and lathe in tech school, but really learned to do these things when at home without anyone watching fooling around with metal and engines in the garage.

Overall, the real answer is I have learned most of the DIY things I have done by doing them for the first time.  I often tell people that you are 80% of the way to completing a project on your own just by being willing to do it.

How did you learn to DIY?

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2022, 10:07:08 AM »
From old guys.
I learned from the old timers the most important lesson: somebody knows how to do it, so you can do it, too. Just find that someone and ask them (nowadays that someone is increasingly youtube).
In other words, don't be afraid of what you don't know. Seek knowledge.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2022, 10:54:56 AM »
How did you learn to DIY?

I hated walking long distances and couldn't afford to pay anyone to fix the $100-class cars I was able to afford, so I learned to fix them myself.

I also realized, sometime in college, that if something is broken already, you cannot make it worse.  So attempt the repair, if you fail, it's still broken and you've learned something, and if you succeed, well, you learned something and have a working thing that was now broken.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2022, 06:49:45 PM »
For me, I learn by doing. If something is adjacent to my knowledge I feel pretty comfortable taking it on. Doing leads to confidence and confidence leads to doing more and that strategy can snowball a person's knowledge. With that said, there are many things I don't do (yet).

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2022, 08:25:09 AM »
It has changed over the years. When I was young (a long time ago) I worked for my father, a painting contractor. I learned interior and exterior painting, drywall, etc. I spent a lot of time on construction sites and observed carpentry, HVAC and electrical work, although by the time I got there it was mostly finish work, not framing or rough-in.
In middle school and high school I took shop classes (not sure those exist anymore) and was exposed to wood working, auto mechanics, welding, etc. 
In college, I was an Industrial Technology major and had access to a truly amazing shop that had everything from wood working to machine tools to foundry.  Also had classes in electronics, construction, manufacturing, etc.
When I was younger, I had to go to the library or find and experience person to learn a new skill. Today there is You Tube.  Can't say enough about how valuable You Tube is for learning DIY skills.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2022, 10:36:55 AM »
YouTube, definitely.  My father did lots of DIY but he didn't think girls should/could do that so I pretty much just got to watch.  At least that made me realize how easy some common problems were to fix and how to restore furniture.  My most fun repairs though have been from watching YouTube--fixing leaky faucets, repairing my washing machine, and (most fun and only done in the first months of Covid when I didn't want a mechanic in my car) replacing a failed plastic bit in my Honda Accord's gearshift.
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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2022, 03:44:14 PM »
Mostly just doing things with my Mom and Dad. We DIYed just about everything relating to car and home repair that we encountered usually only giving things over to the pros when they were too big or required special tools we didn't want to buy. I was always there holding the flashlight or fetching tools when I was younger then doing the work with them "managing" over my shoulder as I got older. The same applied to cooking and household chores.

Nowadays, I spend a lot of time on forums or YT to get info on things I need to do. It's all built off the base I learned from my parents, though. A big part was learning that you can always do something over if it isn't right and probably still come out ahead and that if something is already broken then it can only get better from here. 

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2022, 09:42:44 AM »
I was poor and owned a mess of a car. I lived in the boonies so either I had to pedal my bike to town (which I did and enjoyed) but bicycles couldn't get me to the city and were useless for a date. Learn or walk.

Dad knew everything (I thought). I tackled oil changes on the family vehicles (with help) at age 8-10 years old. Washing the cars. Detailing the interiors. Plumbing repairs with Dad. Poured a concrete driveway along the way. Roofing. Electrical work etc. In my tweens I painted a car. Rebuilt an engine.

Then I moved away for a few years (military). That was the real test of what I really knew and what I thought I knew. This was all long before the internet was a thing. It was like the big tests at the end of the semester.

Watching has always been the best way for me to learn. Thank you internet! Forums and YouTube mostly. The internet is a very important info source but cultivate quality information sources. There are as many bad sources as good it seems.

https://www.ana-white.com
https://www.youtube.com/c/AprilWilkerson
https://www.youtube.com/c/SarahnTuned

Its coincidence that all three info sources are made by ladies. Perhaps they do a better job of explaining and not assuming their audience doesn't need to know details.

I'm always trying new tasks and making a solid effort even when it doesn't matter as much so when I do need to do an A+ job I have some practice from an earlier project. This week it is rebuilding our utility trailer. I'm painting it, installing a new floor and even used a bit of spot putty on a couple of sheet metal parts to practice that. That practice session has a $11 admission fee (cost of materials). It is turning out just fine. I've saved about $5K this year or so in maintenance on our family cars. Several thousand dollars more doing the maintenance on our home.

We're about ready (after the trailer) to renovate our kitchen. New cabinets, new flooring, moving two plugs. After that (spring) a new entrance to the house and a deck porch. 

Information and experience can be like compounding interest. Add to your knowledge often. 
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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2022, 10:28:22 AM »
From my perspective, there are two kinds of people. Those who are willing to tackle something that they might not know how the end result will be, perhaps making things worse before better and those who are unwilling to tackle something without specific step by step instructions or fear that they may make a mistake. I've always been in the former group and thus have learned how to do many many things and make a few mistakes along the way.

How one learns can be literally all over the map. I've learned from others, YouTube, experimentation, necessity and of course, by making mistakes and trying again.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2022, 10:56:39 AM »
Mostly by making a lot of mistakes. :)


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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2022, 01:55:32 AM »
1. I learned a ton by watching my step-father go to work on our home when he and my mother married and we had a Brady Bunch situation (me being the youngest). Not only did I learn a lot of specifics, the most important thing was that by watching him, everything was demystified. I learned that you could do anything, you just had to figure it out.

2. You learn by doing. You have to be willing to play with stuff and be prepared to make some mistakes. 

3. The fucking internet. It's a hell of a learning aid. What my parents' generation had to make do with I'm not sure. This is why those Time-Life books about home improvement were such a big thing on TV for so long. I'm sure they were great. But now we have what is basically that plus a million other teaching aids available at our fingertips, and you don't even have to pay for it.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2022, 05:55:32 AM »
I too learnt from my parents. They weren't well off so it was do it yourself or do without.

They had both been in the forces at the end of WW2, so I guess my dad got some of his diy inclination from that; the army certainly taught him to drive. Afterwards they used to do quite a lot of evening classes and I think they learnt a lot from them. In those days there was quite a lot of non-academic secondary education available at low cost to anyone who was interested. These days that's mainly been replaced by academic paper theoretical education, and generally doesn't seem readily available to the unqualified.

As kids we made models, model bots, model aircraft, model railways, so we had a lot of experience in making things.

As others have said, these days the internet is an amazing resource.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2022, 10:34:03 AM »
Dad was an avid DIYer. I never knew that I should be intimidated by it. Mom was also a crafter, which is a lot of the same make do skills. I was the only humanities grad student with tools. Saved others some money by fixing stuff for them. I am just glad we have the internet so that I am not limited to books and/or finding someone who knows how to do it, like I used to be

People are shocked by how much of our own work we do on the boat, but you can Google anything these days! We hire out some of the stuff that is physically difficult, like waxing.

Depending on where you want to start, there may also be local hands on classes. I am thinking of taking a bike repair class, for example. Sewing classes are common. Just start somewhere to build that "I can figure this out!" mentality.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2022, 11:22:56 AM »
I've got a few rental properties, and on the home improvement /remodeling things, I try just about anything. If the project is more complicated or more liability is involved, I've built relationships with a group of local contractors that are really good, and also willing to have me watch what they're doing and ask questions as they work. They're happy to chat and give tons of valuable tips and tricks that I use for DIY going forward.

One of my guys is a carpenter I was working with a few weeks ago. He said he still doesn't know what he's doing. He just goes and tackles the work one measurement and cut at a time. It was amazing to watch his speed and accuracy. He was ripping boards at crazy angles and making all sorts of detail cuts to make the character of the wood look beautiful. But it's funny, the guy says he has no idea what he's doing. He just does it as he goes.

The next thing I'm going to be learning is car maintenance. Planning on watching YouTube videos and asking one of older local mechanics if I can watch and learn when they work on my car. Really looking forward to it when I have a garage and a place to keep tools.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2022, 07:56:15 PM »
Over the years as a DIYer, I have been asked numerous times, "How do you know how to do that?".  I often am not sure how to answer, I just do things and figure it out never thinking much about whether or not I knew how to do it in the first place.

I probably learned quite a bit about construction and remodeling by watching Bob Villa and Norm Abram as a youth, but really learned by gutting and remodeling a bathroom by myself over a few months.

No idea how I learned about plumbing, but was complimented(and offered a job) by a plumber that saw my work after he had me reconfigure some pipes to fit a new water treatment system.

I learned quite a bit about cars by watching a neighbor work on cars as a youth and also took an auto mechanics class and an auto body class in high school at our local tech school, but really learned about car repairs by repairing my own brakes, throttle bodies, sensors, exhaust gaskets, and even an ECU replacement. 

I learned about electronics, small engine repair, and how to weld from a tech ed teacher in high school and learned how to use a mill and lathe in tech school, but really learned to do these things when at home without anyone watching fooling around with metal and engines in the garage.

Overall, the real answer is I have learned most of the DIY things I have done by doing them for the first time.  I often tell people that you are 80% of the way to completing a project on your own just by being willing to do it.

How did you learn to DIY?

I worked construction in the summers in high school and college for family businesses that were in the trades (plumbing, excavating, roofing, concrete cutting). This was the late 1990's and early 2000's. Since I bought my first house in 2007, I learned mostly from you tube.

If it's too advanced and I hire it out, I try to be home and observe the handy man do it so I can do it the next time. I did a 6-month rehab in 2018 and had a handyman at my house 15-20 hours/week. I was his assistant and I learned tons in those 6 months.   
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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2022, 02:24:05 PM »
I often tell people that you are 80% of the way to completing a project on your own just by being willing to do it.

This. Attitude makes all the difference. In my experience, people who DIY have a basic confidence in their ability to find, acquire, and act on knowledge in one form or another. They believe they can examine and change the objects in the world around them. People who don't DIY think of the objects as a given, coming to them intact, and they think of themselves as consumers, not agents.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2022, 02:25:30 PM »
I'm by no means an advanced DIYer, but I do tackle what I consider simple things: appliance repair, light electrical work (changing an outlet, etc), light plumbing (replacing a toilet, fixing a leaking faucet or drain pipe, etc), drywall repair, painting, sometimes even reupholstering a chair. I'd say frugality came first, then DIY ability. An older cousin was very handy, and when he visited while I was in high school he would change the oil in his car. That was because he lived in an apartment and didn't have a place to do it, whereas we had more space. I learned from him that just putting your hands on something and looking at it was half the battle towards figuring out how to fix it. So when I had my own car, and realized how expensive an oil change was, I did it myself.

Simply being interested in how things work is the first step to becoming a DIYer, and the next is developing the experience to learn that you can do things by yourself. Finally, it's just determination, practice, and refusal to pay someone else for what you think you can do on your own. And somewhere in there is accumulating lots of tools.
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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2022, 02:34:59 PM »
My dad was pretty handy, and we worked on plumbing, painting, yard, and electrical projects.

Sometimes, something bugs me so much that I just jump in and do it. My last townhouse had no woodstove, but a pipe that went from the living room ceiling through a small upper bedroom (losing 2.5'x2.5" in a drywalled off column) and up into the attic. When the roof was redone, I had them remove the attic piping. I knocked down the bedroom drywall and removed the pipe. I then had to patch the bedroom and living room ceilings and bedroom Pergo floor (by swiping the flooring out of another bedroom's closet.)

This week, I didn't know how to replace the rear wiper on my SUV, so I pulled up a Youtube video while I was in the AutoZone lot.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2022, 05:00:14 AM »
I learned a lot of repair, remodel and just fixing stuff from my dad. In high school I had wood shop class and machine shop class and got some knowledge there.
  Now a days with Youtube, there is some much easily available repair knowledge, you can do it the easy way the first time instead of the second time!
 One regret I had as my son was growing up, I didn't really impart of lot of my knowledge to him, he was always involved in his video games. He's been living with us for the last 2 years and we have been playing catch up, he is now surprised at how little mechanical/repair knowledge his coworkers have! He now takes on projects, such as a gas fired wok burner with hinged shelves (with welded frame). He also built an electric skateboard, he built the assembly to laminate and put the curve in the wood deck, he 3d printed separate battery and  controller enclosures. picked motors and drive belts. He rides it 3+ miles to work on occasion. He also built a faux axe from a game he plays.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2022, 07:57:40 AM »
Don't overlook the books either. I've read some very good instructional books over the years related to home projects and car repair projects.

One of the best was "How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive For the Compleat Idiot". Yeah the typo was intentional. Excellent primer on that type of car but the lessons learned are applicable to many older cars. Once some skills are learned on the older car, working on the newer cars isn't that daunting. Replacing a starter on a 2020 car isn't that different than changing the starter on a 1968 car. Same for the alternator or even brakes. Replacing the axle on my 1999 car is similar to changing an axle on our 2014 car which is also FWD and from the same manufacturer.

DW and I have been watching "This Old House" on weekend mornings while we drink our coffee. Its an enjoyable way to ease into a day off. We've learned quite a bit watching the shows but it is a very slow information acquisition process compared to YouTube videos which concentrate the information flow. ;)

FWIW my kids have had a varying interest in learning DIY skills. My interest was variable at that age too. In my own experience and that of my eldest, once independent of Mom and Dad - and financially challenged - the motivation to learn and complete DIY goes way up. My eldest did a repair recently by themselves that saved them $200 at least. They make ~$10 per hour at their job so it was definitely worthwhile. 

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2022, 09:20:22 AM »
Don't overlook the books either. I've read some very good instructional books over the years related to home projects and car repair projects.

One of the best was "How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive For the Compleat Idiot". Yeah the typo was intentional. Excellent primer on that type of car but the lessons learned are applicable to many older cars. Once some skills are learned on the older car, working on the newer cars isn't that daunting. Replacing a starter on a 2020 car isn't that different than changing the starter on a 1968 car. Same for the alternator or even brakes. Replacing the axle on my 1999 car is similar to changing an axle on our 2014 car which is also FWD and from the same manufacturer.

DW and I have been watching "This Old House" on weekend mornings while we drink our coffee. Its an enjoyable way to ease into a day off. We've learned quite a bit watching the shows but it is a very slow information acquisition process compared to YouTube videos which concentrate the information flow. ;)

FWIW my kids have had a varying interest in learning DIY skills. My interest was variable at that age too. In my own experience and that of my eldest, once independent of Mom and Dad - and financially challenged - the motivation to learn and complete DIY goes way up. My eldest did a repair recently by themselves that saved them $200 at least. They make ~$10 per hour at their job so it was definitely worthwhile.

I've still got a grease stained copy of the VW "compleat" guide somewhere around here, great book.
Taunton Press (publisher of Fine Home Building, Fine Woodworking magazines) put out a few books in the "graphic guide" series that were good: " Graphic guide to exterior details" was one of them. Basically a series of architectural drawings of how things are "supposed" to look.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2022, 09:59:32 AM »
Don't overlook the books either. I've read some very good instructional books over the years related to home projects and car repair projects.

One of the best was "How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive For the Compleat Idiot". Yeah the typo was intentional. Excellent primer on that type of car but the lessons learned are applicable to many older cars. Once some skills are learned on the older car, working on the newer cars isn't that daunting. Replacing a starter on a 2020 car isn't that different than changing the starter on a 1968 car. Same for the alternator or even brakes. Replacing the axle on my 1999 car is similar to changing an axle on our 2014 car which is also FWD and from the same manufacturer.

DW and I have been watching "This Old House" on weekend mornings while we drink our coffee. Its an enjoyable way to ease into a day off. We've learned quite a bit watching the shows but it is a very slow information acquisition process compared to YouTube videos which concentrate the information flow. ;)

FWIW my kids have had a varying interest in learning DIY skills. My interest was variable at that age too. In my own experience and that of my eldest, once independent of Mom and Dad - and financially challenged - the motivation to learn and complete DIY goes way up. My eldest did a repair recently by themselves that saved them $200 at least. They make ~$10 per hour at their job so it was definitely worthwhile.

+1 for car shop manuals. Combining those with youtube videos accelerate the learning process quite quickly

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2022, 02:06:36 PM »
I've still got a grease stained copy of the VW "compleat" guide somewhere around here, great book.
Taunton Press (publisher of Fine Home Building, Fine Woodworking magazines) put out a few books in the "graphic guide" series that were good: " Graphic guide to exterior details" was one of them. Basically a series of architectural drawings of how things are "supposed" to look.

I've enjoyed many fine books from that publisher over the years. Enjoyed the magazines too. As I recall they have pretty expensive subscriptions unfortunately.

I've always enjoyed any book that was effective at teaching how to do something without too much pain and frustration. Also the company of people who do that well too.
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« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2022, 08:33:11 AM »
Watching my dad while growing up. Tool passer and free labor on many projects. The internet, books, asking others. It also really helps if you have a genuine interest in the type of DIY you are doing as it makes research more fun than work.
In general if I can safely do it myself I will try. Worst case I fail and hire someone. The money saved on many, many, repairs and projects pays for the jobs that are too advanced for me or some that I am not licensed for such as adding a 200A panel. The money saved with DIY is also a great excuse to buy more tools. :)

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« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2022, 09:47:35 AM »
Love this thread!

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2023, 10:49:10 AM »
Attitude makes all the difference. In my experience, people who DIY have a basic confidence in their ability to find, acquire, and act on knowledge in one form or another. They believe they can examine and change the objects in the world around them. People who don't DIY think of the objects as a given, coming to them intact, and they think of themselves as consumers, not agents.

I realize this is an old comment, but it really caught my attention.  I did not grow up as a DIYer, while my wife did.  Her dad is a plumber and general contractor and very willing to do just about anything house or car related.  I had (and still sometimes have) a lot of resistance to because I was afraid of breaking something, and because I believed overly much in the idea of that thing (e.g. my house) as being a solid, permanent thing.  Working with my FIL helped me to see that, once you scratch the surface, things aren't nearly as solid and permanent as they appear, and (particularly with an older house) you're often operating on a stack of repairs and modifications, of which yours is just the latest.  I can still slip into my former mindset if I'm not careful, whereas my wife's default view is that everything is changeable.

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Re: How did you learn to DIY?
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2023, 08:46:08 AM »
Attitude makes all the difference. In my experience, people who DIY have a basic confidence in their ability to find, acquire, and act on knowledge in one form or another. They believe they can examine and change the objects in the world around them. People who don't DIY think of the objects as a given, coming to them intact, and they think of themselves as consumers, not agents.

I realize this is an old comment, but it really caught my attention.  I did not grow up as a DIYer, while my wife did.  Her dad is a plumber and general contractor and very willing to do just about anything house or car related.  I had (and still sometimes have) a lot of resistance to because I was afraid of breaking something, and because I believed overly much in the idea of that thing (e.g. my house) as being a solid, permanent thing.  Working with my FIL helped me to see that, once you scratch the surface, things aren't nearly as solid and permanent as they appear, and (particularly with an older house) you're often operating on a stack of repairs and modifications, of which yours is just the latest.  I can still slip into my former mindset if I'm not careful, whereas my wife's default view is that everything is changeable.

This mindset discussion speaks to me as well. I sometimes teach hand-sewing mending skills and again and again I see two points that have the most mental impact on students. One is making a cut (for repair purposes) in an existing garment for the first time, like to snip off a loose button for reattachment or whatever. It's a huge deal in meaning if not action because it signifies that (1) it is in fact possible to fix/upgrade existing objects and (2) it is possible for YOU SPECIFICALLY to have the power to do so. If you didn't grow up doing a lot of DIY, the fear of screwing something up is REAL for many people. The second moment is after I show people how to easily thread a needle (I like the "pinch the tip" method) and they do it themselves for the first time. People know that threading a needle is supposed to be easy, but doing so reliably actually takes a bit of technique and finesse, and if no one has ever actually taught you, there are a surprising number of ways people make it harder on themselves. Then people get frustrated and think some version of "if I can't do even this supposedly basic skill instantly with no guidance it means I am stupid and a failure and can't do DIY at all." I like to first ask people to show me how they would thread a needle, telling them in advance I may have an easier way for them, then watch, see what they do, and intervene as needed. They get so happy when they see there's a simple fix and that they ARE capable of doing things, they just might need some help the first time.