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JeffC

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All-natural laundry soap DIY
« on: October 28, 2014, 08:47:26 AM »
The thing I love most about mustachianism is when you find a solution to a problem that ends up benefitting you in many unexpected ways. It is cheaper and better at the same time.

I noticed a while back that I was getting really bad asthma symptoms (I don't have asthma) at night and woke up all drained with puffy eyes, hives, queaziness and sometimes even swollen lips! I noticed eventually that it was at its worst the first night or two after washing my bed sheets.  I realized that my body was not able to deal with the chemicals associated with laundry detergents and fabric softeners.  I looked that up and found out that there are all sorts of nasty things in laundry products, so it seemed logical to stop using them and see what happens before going to a doctor (who likely would just charge me a bunch of money to instruct me to ingest other chemicals to deal with the symptoms).

After a little research I found that you can make your own laundry soap out of all-natural materials and it ends up being less than half the price of commercially made laundry detergent, probably less than a quarter of the price of commercially made all-natural laundry detergent.  The recipes I found all involved melting bars of Dr. Bronner's soap and adding soda ash and borax with enough water to dissolve it all.  I did not want to soap up my cooking pans so I just bought the liquid Dr. Bronner's and mixed it with water and those other ingredients.  It works great and is about $.07 per load! I made this part unscented, but found a better way to add a fresh (non-chemical) scent to the laundry in drying. 

Recipe is:
1/2 cup Dr. Bronner's unscented liquid castille soap ($14 per 32oz)
1 cup Borax ($5 per 12 cups )
1 cup Washing Soda (sodium carbonate) ($4 per 10 cups)
3.75 quarts hot water

Just stir that all together in a gallon jug and use about 1/4-1/2 cup per load depending on size. If you buy these three things, there is enough to eventually make 8 gallons of it for 23 bucks!  One gallon is enough for about 48 loads that are between large and x-large.  So that ends up being 384 loads for $23 or 6 cents per.  At my 3 loads per week rate, that is more than a 2 year supply. Also it is way less shitty to the environment, and the soap part of it is organic and fair trade, two things I like to support when I can.

You will notice that it is watery and has less foaming than your previous detergent, but that is because they add chemicals to thicken it so we see it as more "concentrated" and they add sodium laurel sulfate to add foaming because we inaccurately perceive foaming as being associated with the soap "working".  To see if soap works, feel the water between your hands when the washer is full.  It should be slippery between your fingers, a sign of lowered surface tension within the water. 

To replace dryer sheets, I found some wool dryer balls on amazon, that you add to the laundry in the dryer and it softens the clothes and speeds up the drying time.  They do not, however, address static cling.  For that, add two tennis ball sized balls of aluminum foil. So 3 wool dryer balls and 2 aluminum foil balls, which you reuse indefinitely, does the trick.  To scent it, once the dryer has cycled, I put a few drops of essential oils onto each wool ball and run it with no heat for 15 minutes.  Heat will destroy the essential oils, they say.  For sheets, I use lavender oil, and for the rest, I use a combination of sweet orange and ginger oils.  There is a bit of a startup cost for this (all these things listed will be about $25) but then you never have to buy dryer sheets again so it is actually frugal. The oils (about 12 bucks of that 25) will last a year at the rate I use them. 

So it did, in fact, instantly solve the asthma symptoms, hives, swollen lips and eyes, and does a great job of cleaning as well.  It is about half the price per load of the cheapo Purex I was using.  The soap leaves behind a very comforting undertone of pure cleanliness after the essential oils fade away.  I also really like the ability to adjust the smell of the laundry to my taste. 

I hope you all give this a try.  I highly recommend it.

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2014, 09:00:54 AM »
I have been meaning to DIY-ify my laundry routine for some time. Thanks for the super detailed post!

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2014, 10:25:25 AM »
How do you find it works on the stinkiest of the stinky clothes?  I ask because I have to alternate our DIY soap (Borax + Washing Soda + Fels Naptha + Water) with Tide since there was getting to be a build-up on gym clothes and it was gross. 


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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2014, 10:48:26 AM »
Been making my own laundry soap for years now.  I work in a hospital so my clothes have all sorts of nastiness when I get home.  Homemade soap does the trick

1 bar soap
1 cup borax
1 cup washing soda
3 gallons of water

simple recipe

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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2014, 10:55:13 AM »
I use soap nuts. I use about 4 or 6 nuts in a small tie bag, and hot water. You can reuse the nuts for a number of loads until they become sort of gray. All natural, using the power of plants and hot water to wash every from gym clothes, to hunting clothes, to baby clothes. I haven't figured out the cost per load, but it's much cheaper than detergent. They also aren't scented, so they are great for anyone with sensitivity to detergent.

Like JeffC, this method has cleared up asthma/allergy symptoms in our house.

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2014, 11:56:26 AM »
Great post Jeff! Thanks for sharing. I don't use my dryer. Do you think I could add essential oil to the laundry soap? What about using the peppermint Dr. Bonner's? Would that ruin the mojo?

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2014, 02:55:48 PM »
How do you find it works on the stinkiest of the stinky clothes?  I ask because I have to alternate our DIY soap (Borax + Washing Soda + Fels Naptha + Water) with Tide since there was getting to be a build-up on gym clothes and it was gross. 



For stinky gym clothes, are you washing in HOT water? I have also had success putting them in direct sunlight, and many people use Bac-Out occasionally.

I need to make my own again. I got lazy when we moved and the Costco fragrance-free seems to give some of us rashes. At least I can get my money back fpr it!

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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2014, 06:18:33 PM »
How do you find it works on the stinkiest of the stinky clothes?  I ask because I have to alternate our DIY soap (Borax + Washing Soda + Fels Naptha + Water) with Tide since there was getting to be a build-up on gym clothes and it was gross. 



For stinky gym clothes, are you washing in HOT water? I have also had success putting them in direct sunlight, and many people use Bac-Out occasionally.

I need to make my own again. I got lazy when we moved and the Costco fragrance-free seems to give some of us rashes. At least I can get my money back fpr it!

I usually wash in cold as I thought that was better for clothes.  I didn't think the 120 degree water from the water heater was hot enough to kill anything, especially as our washer mixes hot with cold even when set to "hot".  How hot of water do you use?

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2014, 09:52:40 AM »
Huh, to be honest, I have no idea. Haven't been able to set our own temperature in years! I don't think it's over 120, though--it's not scalding even at full blast--and I do find that it makes a big difference to use hot vs. cold. That would cut into your savings a bit, of course, but at least you wouldn't have to buy Tide any more! Or you should have pretty abundant free sunshine :-).

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2014, 07:48:55 AM »
Great post Jeff! Thanks for sharing. I don't use my dryer. Do you think I could add essential oil to the laundry soap? What about using the peppermint Dr. Bonner's? Would that ruin the mojo?

I bet either (or both) of those things sound like good plans.  The main reason for not scenting the wash is that I do use a dryer.  The first time I added essential oils right away into the dryer and it smell like nothing at all by the time the cycle went through. I haven't graduated to line drying yet but maybe I will do that when the school year lets out and I have a bit more time at home to fit that in.

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2014, 03:21:12 PM »
Great post Jeff! Thanks for sharing. I don't use my dryer. Do you think I could add essential oil to the laundry soap? What about using the peppermint Dr. Bonner's? Would that ruin the mojo?

I bet either (or both) of those things sound like good plans.  The main reason for not scenting the wash is that I do use a dryer.  The first time I added essential oils right away into the dryer and it smell like nothing at all by the time the cycle went through. I haven't graduated to line drying yet but maybe I will do that when the school year lets out and I have a bit more time at home to fit that in.

Thanks again! I am looking forward to trying it once I get through the All Free I recently purchased at BJs. I just recently went to 100% line drying. I put a load in the wash, take it out and hang it. I usually don't get to it for a couple of days after it has been drying, but I am lucky enough to have a spare bedroom where I can dry my clothes on racks. If they live there for a few days, it is no biggie. When I have time to put them away, I throw in another load and repeat the process. My electric bill has PLUMMETED. Totally worth it.

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2014, 09:58:06 AM »
I'd just like to chime in and say that for people with harder water sources, the home made stuff may not cut it. The reason people switched to detergents was because hard water precipitates carbonates out before they can clean anything, where as the detergents (usually sulfates) remain untouched and able to remove dirt. This could be part of your problem, Mrs.Pop.

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2014, 11:01:55 AM »
I'd just like to chime in and say that for people with harder water sources, the home made stuff may not cut it. The reason people switched to detergents was because hard water precipitates carbonates out before they can clean anything, where as the detergents (usually sulfates) remain untouched and able to remove dirt. This could be part of your problem, Mrs.Pop.

Hmm, our water isn't particularly hard I don't think.  Our utility company says it is 100 mg/L (or expressed in different units, about 6 grains per gallon).  They peg soft water at 110mg/L or less and hard water at 200mg/L or more. 

The big problem is that deodorant sticks in the armpits and builds up greasiness and brown marks slowly over time.  I can treat it with dish soap + hydrogen peroxide + baking soda and it comes out (though treating each armpit is annoying), but with the DIY soaps the build up seems to happen much quicker than when we use Tide.  If anyone has other ideas for a more natural solution, I'm all ears!

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2014, 01:08:13 PM »
Parents - have any of you used homemade detergent on cloth diapers?  I'd like to start making my own, but we'll be washing diapers very soon, and I've heard VERY mixed opinions on homemade detergents for them.  Any good recipes for diaper-safe detergent?

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2014, 01:40:57 PM »
I use more or less the same quantity of borax and washing soda, and half a bar of soap too, but I use about 20 litres of water, which is about 5 times more than your recipe. The resulting product, after it has settled overnight, has the same consistency as store-bought liquid laundry detergent. Are you sure about the quantity of water you use in your recipe?

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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2014, 03:35:44 PM »
I do not use it regularly for laundry but I've been making soap as a hobby for about 10 years and it fills my need to create while being nerdy and over-researching everything.  If anyone is interested in the actual soap process (as in starting with a bucket of lard/olive oil and a box of lye), I can steer you to some good resources.

Soaps are made from plant and animal fats, detergents are usually sulfonates/another type of surfactant made with a similar process.  Most bar soap you find on the shelf is actually a detergent bar and will be labeled something like 'cleansing bar'. The one exception I can think of offhand is Ivory.  If you read the label it says 'sodium tallowate' = soap made from beef tallow.

Borax/washing soda can then be used to boost the cleaning properties of the soap as noted by JeffC.   You are more likely to get a scum/residue left from natural soap which may or may not cause a long-term problem for your washer.

The last laundry bar I made was super hard, it dried with an edge that I joked I could cut with.


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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2014, 02:30:15 AM »
I make my own soap, too. I make one for body use and a much harder one for laundry. I was having a problem with stinky clothes using the body soap in my laundry detergent.

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2014, 09:41:17 PM »
Parents - have any of you used homemade detergent on cloth diapers?  I'd like to start making my own, but we'll be washing diapers very soon, and I've heard VERY mixed opinions on homemade detergents for them.  Any good recipes for diaper-safe detergent?

I always heard that soap products are NOT appropriate for cloth diapers, and I never used my homemade detergent on my cloth diapers. I always bought special cloth diaper detergent. (I used BumGenious detergent, which is basically Country Save with a smaller scoop.) One problem is that with homemade laundry detergent (i.e., soap), it's important to use vinegar in the rinse cycle to get all the soap out and keep your clothes from turning yellow. But vinegar is bad for PUL, the layer of plastic that makes cloth diapers waterproof. You do NOT want to damage that, trust me :-). If you wash your covers/shells separately from your diapers/inserts, you could use homemade detergent and vinegar on just the inserts. But I always washed mine all together.

I cloth diapered for over three years straight with two in cloth for a while, so you can ask me anything :-). I am so excited to be getting rid of all of those now!

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2014, 04:41:38 PM »
Thank you for super-detailed rundown, JeffC!
I had been looking for a simple recipe like this for some time. Does this leave any residue on dark clothing?

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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2014, 05:37:38 PM »
The big problem is that deodorant sticks in the armpits and builds up greasiness and brown marks slowly over time.  I can treat it with dish soap + hydrogen peroxide + baking soda and it comes out (though treating each armpit is annoying), but with the DIY soaps the build up seems to happen much quicker than when we use Tide.  If anyone has other ideas for a more natural solution, I'm all ears!

Have you tried addressing the deodorant instead of the detergent? 

The commercial product is worse than the laundry detergent you're trying to DIY away from . . . . I know there's a thread on here somewhere with different options.  The buildup is the chemicals in the deodorant, which because they are synthetic are harder to break down naturally.  If you use natural sweat prevention (non antiperspirant, etc.) there will be less for your laundry to get rid of.  I switched two or three years ago and after trying homemade and Toms, I settled on the aluminum crystal, but every body is different.  That, plus natural fibers, and no more pit stains! Worth a shot :-)

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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2014, 12:34:33 PM »
The big problem is that deodorant sticks in the armpits and builds up greasiness and brown marks slowly over time.  I can treat it with dish soap + hydrogen peroxide + baking soda and it comes out (though treating each armpit is annoying), but with the DIY soaps the build up seems to happen much quicker than when we use Tide.  If anyone has other ideas for a more natural solution, I'm all ears!

Have you tried addressing the deodorant instead of the detergent? 

The commercial product is worse than the laundry detergent you're trying to DIY away from . . . . I know there's a thread on here somewhere with different options.  The buildup is the chemicals in the deodorant, which because they are synthetic are harder to break down naturally.  If you use natural sweat prevention (non antiperspirant, etc.) there will be less for your laundry to get rid of.  I switched two or three years ago and after trying homemade and Toms, I settled on the aluminum crystal, but every body is different.  That, plus natural fibers, and no more pit stains! Worth a shot :-)

Yeah, we really need the antiperspirant with the amount of activity and the environment we're in most of the time.  Tom's really didn't cut it when I tried it.  =(

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Re: All-natural laundry soap DIY
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2014, 09:22:13 PM »
I use equal parts washing soda and cups of Zote soap and make it in my food processor.  Seems to do the trick.  I've heard mixed things about Borax so kind wanted to eliminate that from my recipe.

For a great smell and to replace dryer sheets (which can be really carcinogenic), I do almost the exact same thing you do except I put a few drops of essential oil on a sock instead of the wool ball.  It works great and clothes smell nice.

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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2014, 06:55:23 PM »
After another month of use, one weird thing is that it turns coffee stains blue for some reason. It was on a white shirt so I just did a load of whites (I usually don't separate colors because I'm only one man with only so much clothes) using bleach and no problem.  For any smells or residues that might build up over time, try using a cup of vinegar in the wash.  It will kill all the odors and will probably address the grease and oil as it is an excellent degreaser.  And no, you don't smell like pickles afterward.  It leaves zero odor.