Author Topic: Gravel Drive Maintenance  (Read 8628 times)

dantownehall

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Gravel Drive Maintenance
« on: March 03, 2015, 12:22:25 PM »
My gravel driveway is in sad shape.  There are some areas that are nothing buy mud now, and in general it needs a refresh.

Since there was an existing gravel drive, can I just shovel more gravel on top and smooth it down, or do I need to put down some sort of paving base and compact it?

It's not very long, and I'm currently leaning towards just filling up the truck with gravel and shoveling it out on top of what's already there.

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Re: Gravel Drive Maintenance
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2015, 01:48:24 PM »
I have the same issue and would love suggestions.  I've been debating paving my drive, but it wouldn't add any real value to the house. Any suggestions are appreciated.

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Re: Gravel Drive Maintenance
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2015, 02:05:07 PM »
If you are just putting down a new top layer of gravel then yeah go ahead and just dump it out and smooth it around. If you are dealing with pot holes then fill them in with something larger than gravel first. If you are sinking in due to deep mud then you may consider redoing the drive and using a good thick base of a larger rock.

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Re: Gravel Drive Maintenance
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2015, 02:13:43 PM »
A buddy of mine has a long gravel drive and last time he had screenings (finely ground up asphalt) put down. He had to pay for them but he and his wife love that the cars don't get as dirty anymore.

Another friend had a gravel/dirt lot behind his factory and was able to talk the road crew re-surfacing his street to dump it behind his building. He had to spread it, but it made the area a lot more usable.

If you do go with gravel, it might be cheaper to get a dump straight from the quarry. Also, make sure you order the road mix so it packs down. Around Chicago it's CA6, but I think MI was 6AA when I worked there. Gravel could be anything.

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Re: Gravel Drive Maintenance
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2015, 02:15:17 PM »
The problem with mud is that fresh gravel tends to migrate downward into it, and disappear. I have built a lot of new homes in an area with extreme clay, as in typically 40-60' deep, according to the well driller. My excavator starts with a base of big rock, often softball to half gallon jug size, then covers this with smaller stuff and a topping layer of "modified" which is the regional name for a mix of everything from 3/4" material down to stone dust. This creates a very long lasting driveway that does not get lost in the mud. 

Mud can be an issue of poor grading, when the water flows into the driveway, instead of away from it, or just poor overall soil conditions. If you are working in a really wet area, one good option is a geo-fabric which is a tough synthetic "tarp" that is laid down under the driveway material, and prevents the rock from mushing into the mud. Not very expensive, particularly if you are battling mud puddles, soft spots and constantly disappearing gravel. The whole concept of disappearing gravel might seem a bit strange, but think of it this way. You make a giant batch of chocolate pudding and fill a five gallon bucket with it. Now put two inches of gravel over the top. When you push on the gravel, it slowly sinks into the pudding. You can either continue to put more gravel on top, or figure out another solution. If you start again, put a layer of fabric on the pudding, then the gravel, the fabric keeps the gravel from migrating into the pudding.

That is why some people end up adding gravel to a driveway on a regular basis, and never seem to get ahead. It doesn't evaporate, but it sure can seem to disappear, LOL

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Re: Gravel Drive Maintenance
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2015, 02:33:55 PM »
To get gravel drives in top shape and keep them there requires maintainance, usually with large equipment which can maintain the shape of the road and drainage, but you can probably do a satisfactory job with a pickup, shovel, and rake if your driveway is not too long.  Start with a 3 inch layer coarse gravel (2" or so) then top off with a couple inches of what they call "crusher run".  Crusher run has  a mix of different size aggregate in it so it packs well.  Careful how much you put in your truck, gravel is heavy!

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Re: Gravel Drive Maintenance
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2015, 05:17:08 PM »
We had one driveway to the house, we added and widen it and curved it around to make a circle drive.

Since the motorhome was going over this and weighs about 30000 pounds my husband had them dig down 6 inches or more, then put in the fabric as someone else stated.  After that we put a big rock, don't remember the size and topped it all with white rock.  This was done 2 years ago this year I had several more loads of white rock as it was mashing down.  We did it a lot for looks as the driveway is solid, but it looked really bad.  It sure makes a difference doing it that way when its wet.  I have not had an issue with the motorhome yet, but I am sure careful not to get off the driveway, that would mean a big wrecker and I don't want to pay that bill.

If you haven't put down a good base you might want to put down the fabric and then the big stuff even now and then put a small gravel or rock on the top.  It's not cheap to maintain them but do it right and you will have a really good one over time.

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Re: Gravel Drive Maintenance
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2015, 07:28:59 AM »
Thanks for the replies everyone!

I have seen a corner of the geotextile fabric stuff poking out, so I know that's under there somewhere.

This is the first time I've done this, so I think I'll try spreading some more of the same size gravel over the top and see how long that lasts.