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evidence of insects under doorjambs - concern?
« on: June 08, 2020, 07:51:56 AM »
I'm replacing a door jam in the older section of my home (1900).  Pulled up a doorjamb installed circa 1980 to reveal the original framing and subfloor underneath. 

In one segment there were all these insect casings.  Anyone know what they are and whether it's cause for concern?  It doesn't look like termites, and the wood itself didn't seem chewed up or rotted (seemed in surprisingly good shape for being 120 years old).  I also didn't notice and live bugs, except for a small spider, so perhaps this colony of died a long time ago?

Anyone know what this is?

ETA:  This is in New England.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2020, 07:55:39 AM by nereo »

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Re: evidence of insects under doorjambs - concern?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2020, 07:54:22 AM »
I don't know what they are, but I would try to get rid of the lot. Maybe burn them out or use aome insect poison. If they are termites, you don't want then anywhere near your home.

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Re: evidence of insects under doorjambs - concern?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2020, 07:58:39 AM »
Those don't look like old insect casings to me.  They're very intact and not covered by dust/debris as will happen over long periods of time.  Certainly, they're less than a year old.  Looks like beetle larvae to me, but there are a lot of creepy crawlies that look similar.

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Re: evidence of insects under doorjambs - concern?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2020, 07:59:45 AM »
I don't know what they are, but I would try to get rid of the lot. Maybe burn them out or use aome insect poison. If they are termites, you don't want then anywhere near your home.

I vacuumed out all the casings and I've only encountered them in one spot.  There were no live ones that I could see.

What do you mean by "burn them out"?  I'm guessing not literally using fire?  Not sure how to use an insectide if there's not an obvious nest to apply it to - I've plied up large sections fo floor and only encountered this one spot... everywhere looks fine.
I could lay down some DE power (diatomaceous Earth) around this area before replacing the flooring and door jab, as a precaution...

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Re: evidence of insects under doorjambs - concern?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2020, 08:33:12 AM »
Bugs have a way of getting into the tiniest of openings in your buildings and making homes.   Clean and shop vac all of that stuff out, spray everything good with something like "Home Defense", then put the door back together taking care not to leave any cracks, openings, or voids where insects can get back in.   Gaps can be filled with non expanding spray foam and exterior joints between materials should be caulked.   Door thresholds need special attention to the sealant and bedding material used, as well as good anchors.

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Re: evidence of insects under doorjambs - concern?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2020, 08:40:02 AM »
Bugs have a way of getting into the tiniest of openings in your buildings and making homes.   Clean and shop vac all of that stuff out, spray everything good with something like "Home Defense", then put the door back together taking care not to leave any cracks, openings, or voids where insects can get back in.   Gaps can be filled with non expanding spray foam and exterior joints between materials should be caulked.   Door thresholds need special attention to the sealant and bedding material used, as well as good anchors.

I'll look into getting some Home Defense. 
Not sure I can seal every crack and opening though.  This is an interior door, btw.  The home itself is 120 years, and balloon construction, so there are pathways for any insects once they get inside, and there's probably 1,000 ways they coud get inside through that framing.  Slowly filing all major holes but as you said even a tiny crack and be a pathway.

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Re: evidence of insects under doorjambs - concern?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2020, 08:44:46 AM »
They look like silverfish skins. 

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Re: evidence of insects under doorjambs - concern?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2020, 11:19:16 AM »
I don't know what they are, but I would try to get rid of the lot. Maybe burn them out or use aome insect poison. If they are termites, you don't want then anywhere near your home.

I vacuumed out all the casings and I've only encountered them in one spot.  There were no live ones that I could see.

What do you mean by "burn them out"?  I'm guessing not literally using fire?  Not sure how to use an insectide if there's not an obvious nest to apply it to - I've plied up large sections fo floor and only encountered this one spot... everywhere looks fine.
I could lay down some DE power (diatomaceous Earth) around this area before replacing the flooring and door jab, as a precaution...

We once had very big ants, of the type that eats old wood and can eat up wooden beaks in your case. Turned out they came from a stub in the garden and had found their wat into the kitchen. We poured burning fluids (every type we had in the house) to into the nest and put fire onto it. But of course you need to be able to do it safely if it is in your house. I was thinking of spirit.

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Re: evidence of insects under doorjambs - concern?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2020, 02:46:53 PM »
Hi there! I know a thing or two about bugs. First, I'm about 99.9% sure you do NOT have bed bugs, termites, or carpenter ants. Hoorah!

The photo is unfortunately a little blurry, but if I were to make an educated guess, I'd say you found a deposit of shed skins from beetles, specifically some species of carpet beetle such as the black carpet beetle (the adult beetles are black, not the larvae). You mentioned being in New England. Here's the extension services page on carpet beetles from the University of Maine: https://extension.umaine.edu/ipm/ipddl/publications/5008e/. Look at the larvae in the colored picture and see if that matches what you found. You can also look for adult beetles around your house, most likely at the bottom of your window sills, or on the floor just underneath the windows. Carpet beetle larvae do not like light, so tend to hang out under the edges of carpet or wooden moldings, or in closets, where humans won't disturb them.

Someone else mentioned silverfish, but I think that's unlikely. The body shape is similar, but the skins you found are the wrong color and have stripes. Also, silverfish are known cannibals, so it actually would be unusual to find a big cache of skins like you did.

It sounds like you already cleaned this spot up, but if you find more skins, put some in a sealed clear plastic bag and you can show it to an exterminator if you want an ID.

Anyway, what should you do about these probably beetles you found? Not much, actually. Carpet beetles don't bite or spread disease to humans, though in large quantities their skins may upset someone's allergies.  They can chew holes in natural fibers, however, like in rugs or clothes. Cleaning the area was the right thing to do. Change your vacuum bag if you haven't done so already. No need to set anything on fire. In the future, keep cleaning your house regularly to minimize the food carpet beetles would have, such as hair and dead skin cells on the floor. The U of Maine page has more details.
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