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DIY/recycled planters, and general balcony garden advice
« on: March 03, 2016, 12:58:56 PM »
I want to finally get a balcony garden going this year and start growing some vegetables. A couple of questions for the seasoned gardeners:

1. DIY or recycled planters. I'd love to do this instead of buying them. What kinds of things can be repurposed into planters without too much trouble? I have a silver bucket thing that was from a gift basket I got at Christmas, as well as some baskets. I'm very willing to go scavenging. Any opinion on toilet planters? I see some old toilets kicking around from time to time in the garbage room (I would obviously disinfect the shit out of it first).

2. What "crops" would give me the most bang for my buck? I have a weird balcony - north facing, scalene triangle shaped with a metal railing along the hypotenuse. Vancouver climate. I was thinking of having peas or beans that would grow up the railing, and the rest is unplanned. I'm not too picky, and primarily value volume of food produced.

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Re: DIY/recycled planters, and general balcony garden advice
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2016, 01:58:26 PM »
Probably the most bang for your buck crops that you can easily do on a balcony are greens like beet greens, fancy lettuces, etc. and herbs.


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Re: DIY/recycled planters, and general balcony garden advice
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2016, 03:23:59 PM »
We do a lot of salad things on our deck simply because it is quick and easy to get too. We also grow a cherry tomato plant and some peppers but those need plenty of sunlight.

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Re: DIY/recycled planters, and general balcony garden advice
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2016, 03:48:45 PM »
Salad is probably pretty much the only thing we're not fans of. We both prefer cooked vegetables. I suppose I could try spinach to use in lasagna and stir fry.

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2016, 06:12:01 PM »
Some seed retailers sell seeds specifically for container gardens - i.e. http://parkseed.com/vegetables/c/vegetables/filter/100000002525eq100000002651/  Browse and see what strikes your fancy/would work in the space you have.

In general, though, herbs are a great starting point. Definitely the highest value you can usually grow.

We have lettuces/greens, cherry tomatoes, and jalapeņos currently growing in our hydroponic set up.

As for repurpose able containers - make sure they can drain properly. Old milk jugs and the like can work pretty well for both seed starting and growing herbs. I'm not sure what would go into repurposing a toilet, but it's an interesting idea.

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Re: DIY/recycled planters, and general balcony garden advice
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2016, 12:13:21 PM »
Tall, thin containers are much more space efficient - less floor space taken up but still a significant enough volume of compost. Also good are square containers and containers that are the same height all the way up (I.e. Don't start off narrow at the bottom and get wider at the top). An inadequate volume of compost will stunt growth significantly.

Also, don't think you're safe from slugs and bugs just because you're up in the air! They love to hide under pots.

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Re: DIY/recycled planters, and general balcony garden advice
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2016, 12:21:38 PM »
For the DIY route, I built my plants out of the 1x4 cedar fence pickets. 14"x14" for just over a cubic ft of soil.  Pretty cheap and fairly easy.

For repurposing route.... I was tempted last year to use the canvas/cloth reuseable shopping bags. I'll probably end up using some this year if overbuy plants like usual.
Along the same lines I used plastic woven 50lb grain bags (feed bags work too) for containers last year and they worked great. I got them from the homebrew store but if you have a local brewery I'm sure they would save them for you. They should have tons of them. I just cut them across the top and rolled down the sides until they were they desired height. Because its woven plastic drainage is great.

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Re: DIY/recycled planters, and general balcony garden advice
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2016, 03:39:03 PM »
How many hours of sunlight you get is probably your main consideration as to what to grow, if you're north facing. Strawberries & salad will do ok in shade, a lot of other veg & fruit won't. Things like rosemary and mint are pretty tolerant of not getting much light and nice to have near the kitchen, annual herbs like basil, coriander, dill won't be so keen. If you're getting plenty of light, then ignore me.

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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2016, 05:38:01 PM »
Free is easy to come by but not always visually as pleasing as commercial stuff. You can always get free white plastic buckets at any grocery store bakery if you ask, and drill a lot of holes in them.

Not sure of what kind of railing you have, but to double your yield it might be worth it to either buy or rig yourself up some of the type that hang off a rail: you can have a standard pot on the deck itself (carrots) and then in the planters that hang off the rail you have radishes or something. A trellis can be made from branches you find on the ground for a rustic look, and then just string for the snow peas to climb up.

They also make (or you could rig yourself) tiny greenhouses of heavy mil plastic: it's basically just a shelving unit with some plastic around it. It will increase the heat necessary to grow tomatoes.

If there is a second story above you? You can nail a piece of wood with a feed bag stapled to it and then decorative moss stitched to it if you wanted something 'pretty', although those upside down strawberry things are also cool hanging planters.

The ultimate would be a hanging "Tumbler" tomato plant: if you can find one, buy it. Best cherry tomato ever and grows forever. They hang down like a weeping willow.

You could ask friends for their one liter soda bottles and make hanging gardens from them off a second story rail. And the clear ones make nice plant covers if you saw the bottom off: leave the cap off so the plants don't get too hot but it will increase the heat and magnify the light for your tiniest plants until they're about 9 inches tall....they fit inside most thin planters, too.

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2016, 04:31:23 PM »
Here are some random tricks I've learned from a few years of growing an extensive container garden on a balcony (US midwest, zone 5ish):

* Use "scavenged" milk crates or, if you can get them, bulb crates - ask at garden centers that sell a lot of bulbs, preferably in the fall. They will usually have a ton of them and will sell them for $2-3 per crate. Line them with burlap (better wicking properties, but breaks down fast) or landscape fabric and fill with soil.

* When growing things like tomatoes that can form adventitious roots along the stem, trench planting helps to maximize root zone colonization in shallow planters. I plant tomato starts around the last frost date, wait until they're a bit taller than the crate is long, then prune off all the leaves except those at the very tip. Give them a couple days to scab up, then dig a trench and heel them in. They will root all along the stem and shoot up to the sky shortly thereafter. Keep the vines pruned around the base so the leaves don't interfere with watering.

* Keep everything heavily mulched to resist drying out.

* You can use a lot of scavenged construction waste for trellis/support. Long, skinny pieces of wood lath or cast-off threaded steel rod are things I frequently find in construction dumpsters, but you can use conduit or anything suitable. Anchor one end against the balcony railing, bend it in a big arc and anchor the other end against the building. Then run parallel support strings down to where the vines are growing. If you have enough space you can create a series of these arc-trellises. They are easy to take down for the winter.

* Pay a lot of attention to how the sun moves throughout the season, and what else might be going on to block it (e.g. buildings, trees leafing out). On my balcony there's a complex sequence that plays out early in the season, which I respond to by moving containers around. Also watch out for low afternoon sun, it can zap your plants. I have to put up a sun shade in mid-June through the end of July for part of my garden.

* Rainwater harvesting on a balcony is possible in many cases. For the cost of two 55 gallon barrels (about $15 each), two spigots and possibly a downspout or two, you can store enough rainwater to get through most dry spells.

* If you need more space, growing vines makes it easy to extend your balcony by leaning some sort of trellis off the edge. I use wooden grates with strings attached to the far corners, tied off to the railing. (These are brought in during the winter.) Beans and malabar spinach love to grow on them. (You can find malabar spinach in the produce section of your local Indian grocery. It roots readily from cuttings, then self-pollinates and produces copious seed.)

* Consider growing perennial vegetables, fruits, and herbs that will keep coming back every year with no effort. Sunchokes and chinese celery are two I've had success growing in containers, as well as all the usual European perennial herbs. You can often find the latter growing around and just take some free cuttings - I carry a grafting knife and baggies for this purpose. Be careful, though - not everything that's hardy when planted in the ground will overwinter in a container that freezes solid for six months (maybe not such a problem in Vancouver).

* Consider overwintering long-lived annuals if you have the indoor space. I have a whole gaggle of old-timers including a five year old hot pepper. Sticking them outside in the spring gets you a crop much faster than if you had to start seeds, and is vastly cheaper than buying starts every year. (Peppers will bloom indoors all winter, but won't bear anything without insect pollinators. One year I had an ant problem in January... the ants took an interest in the pepper blossoms and I wound up with lots of peppers in March!)

* Always consider what happens to the runoff from your balcony-watering efforts. Urban gardening is already a semi-tolerated activity in lots of places, and getting someone's car dirty (or worse) is not the way to win friends and influence people.

* Lurkmoar Gardenweb...

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Re: DIY/recycled planters, and general balcony garden advice
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2016, 05:06:17 PM »
The limited sun is hard to overcome if you are not eating greens.

Try pole beans as with height they may cath some rays

I have done potatoes in a half barrel nicely.

I am growing lettuce in pots now. I think radishes and cool plants like snap peas are possible. Kale might work.

What about Asian leafy vegetables like Sui Choy?  Vancouver is ideal for them from late winter.

Try asking for pots on Craig's list?  Large ones are rare. But mid sized grouped on a tray can work for watering.

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Re: DIY/recycled planters, and general balcony garden advice
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2016, 05:21:30 PM »
Herbs, green onions, banana peppers, cherry tomatoes.

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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2016, 10:30:14 AM »
Herbs! Yummy and easy for beginners.
Plus you can make friends by sharing starters once you have the herbs going.

You may also enjoy health plants, by this i mean, plants that filter the air in your apartment

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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2016, 11:21:22 AM »
green onions

Green onions are borderline unkillable and work great in pots.

Years ago I some green onions in the back of the vegetable crisper that were looking inedible.  Rather than throw them out I stuck 'em in some plastic pots with dirt and sat them in the window.  After a week or two they started to revive, and then a week or two after that they were growing an awful lot.

I'd cut off the green tips and toss them into food whenever I was cooking.  About four years of this and the onions stopped growing as well (I figure the soil was pretty dead by this point) . . . so I planted them in our garden.  They . . . kinda took off from that point.  And spread into the lawn.  Now I get a nice onion-y smell every time I mow.  Some patches of our 'grass' are about 30% onion at this point.

So yeah, if you are unsure about keeping plants alive, go with green onions.