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jpdx

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Painting doors and dealing with sticky sides
« on: November 22, 2019, 10:55:50 PM »
I am about to embark on painting nearly all the interior doors in my house. These are century-old 5-panel doors with a few layers of existing paint. I plan to take them down to the basement, prep, and spray.

Problem is some of the doors are already slightly sticking to the jams -- they make a cracking sound when you open them. Others aren't sticking but adding one more coat of paint might cause problems. Given there is likely lead paint in there, I can't safely sand or plane down the sides as I would like to do.

Should I use a chemical paint stripper on the edges while preserving the faces? How?
Or should I avoid spraying the edges altogether?
Or should I scrape and sand the sides lightly, hoping for the best?

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Re: Painting doors and dealing with sticky sides
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2019, 08:13:05 AM »
Not from experience mind you, but I've seen on DIY TV shows where folks have used paint stripper gels (like this one I found on Amazon though there were a lot of others https://www.amazon.com/MAX-Strip-Varnish-Stripper-Gallon/dp/B07WX2L4HV/ref=sr_1_2?crid=W158AUBKUPIN&keywords=paint+remover+for+wood&qid=1574521324&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2941120011&s=hi&sprefix=paint+remov%2Caps%2C172&sr=1-2) in situations like this to safely strip down old doors where everyone was presuming the lower layers of paint were lead paint.

I can't quite think of a way even with a "no-drip" gel like the one above to just do the edges.  Maybe try it with one as a test to see if there is a way and accept you might have to strip and re-paint the entire door if it goes wrong.  For such a test, I'd stand the door on edge, use a really strong painter's tape wrapped around the upward facing edge and leave the tape sticking a good 1/2 inch above the edge of the door to ensure the gel can't drip down the sides.  If you have a small enough scraper, you could theoretically scrape up the gel & paint before removing the tape.  IF it works, you do all the edges, clean up the entire door and repaint everything.

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Re: Painting doors and dealing with sticky sides
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2019, 09:03:38 AM »
I am about to embark on painting nearly all the interior doors in my house. These are century-old 5-panel doors with a few layers of existing paint. I plan to take them down to the basement, prep, and spray.

Problem is some of the doors are already slightly sticking to the jams -- they make a cracking sound when you open them. Others aren't sticking but adding one more coat of paint might cause problems. Given there is likely lead paint in there, I can't safely sand or plane down the sides as I would like to do.

Should I use a chemical paint stripper on the edges while preserving the faces? How?
Or should I avoid spraying the edges altogether?
Or should I scrape and sand the sides lightly, hoping for the best?

A few quick thoughts.

1) They make lead test kits (here they are usually readily available at the big box stores)
2) Why does lead prohibit sanding? There are precautions you can take to address the issues lead could pose.
3) Why does lead prohibit planing? most of the exposure risk is inhalation.

I wouldn't mess with strippers trying to get just some of the existing paint off; I would imagine the edge of the remaining paint will likely be compromised and could result in separation and paint failure later.

I would test the door(s) for lead: if the doors have no lead I would use whatever method was easiest; if they do come back positive for lead, I would lay some plastic on the ground (preferable outside or in the garage), put a could saw horses on top of it, place the door on the saw horses, put on good PPE (at least gloves and an N95 mask) and use a hand plane to scrape the edges. Then I would roll up all of the plastic with shaving planings and dispose of it.

Alternatively you could chemical strip the entire door and start fresh. This is obviously more work but it does give you the chance to fill any dings in the door and remove any damage to the existing paint that will telegraph through your next coat of paint.

I just got done spraying our kitchen in the basement, next time I will set up a booth out of plastic in the garage (mostly to keep dust out). But if I had to do it in the basement again I would as air-tight a paint booth as I could and run an air cleaner (something like this https://www.homeconstructionimprovement.com/delta-air-cleaner-review-model-50-875/). Over spray from painting hangs in the air and goes EVERYWHERE and settles as a paint colored dust on top of EVERYTHING. I had setup a paint booth bit I didn't put in enough time making it dust proof (now I am paying the price in basement cleaning).

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Re: Painting doors and dealing with sticky sides
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2019, 02:08:18 PM »
If the paint buildup is causing problems, then you have to remove all of it. You can't just remove the sides. Sorry. It kinda sucks. Yes, do a lead test, but all it does is inform your process.

Also, I assume you will also be painting the door frames? If not, they won't match and it'll look weird. You may or may not need to strip them as well.

I use a razor blade scraper. Makes a mess, but not much dust. Then I sand (outside if possible). If you don't sand, it won't look as good when you're done. Sanding is where the lead mitigation comes in.