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Jon Bon

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Can I do this? (Electrical)
« on: October 30, 2017, 08:40:03 AM »
Background: I am building myself a garage. It will have a very high roof to accommodate a room in attic using trusses for use as a workshop. power will still run into the house and a submeter to the garage.

Issue: My main service drop is in the way of this high roof.


I have already had the service on the house raised, and called the electrical company to raise it on the pole but I still dont know if that will be enough. Code calls for 23 feet (roof is 20 feet) electrical line (before the power company raises their lines) Is about 6 feet to low.  If the power company can raise it only 4 feet (pole is only so tall) What to do?

Question: Is there a code approved way to raise the electrical line up above my roof? I was thinking some sort of support pole to keep the electrical service up off the new garage roof.

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Re: Can I do this? (Electrical)
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 11:46:34 AM »
In a situation like that, I would simply run the line to the side of the garage and then trench in the line between the garage and the house. Much cleaner look and much less likely to get into with ladders and such.

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Re: Can I do this? (Electrical)
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 04:58:52 PM »
Believe it, or not, codes have nothing to do with it, and electric utilities are not bound by any code. The only answer that matters is whatever the electric company want to see. I would call customer service and find out who the field supervisor is in your neighborhood. Call that person and schedule a face to face meeting.  I have had dealings with supers. that were incredibly helpful and provided solutions that saved me tons of money and aggravation, and had interactions that were quite the opposite. Including one clown that spent months demanding that I waste about $6K to solve a problem that, after I did an end run around the jackass, ended up be solved for less than $50. Good luck.

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Re: Can I do this? (Electrical)
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2017, 02:05:34 PM »
Thanks,

I have a call out, but unfortunately my utility sent all their line workers to the easy coast to help with storm damage there!

So I have a 2 week wait before I can even talk to anyone.


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Re: Can I do this? (Electrical)
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2017, 06:19:02 PM »
Thanks,

I have a call out, but unfortunately my utility sent all their line workers to the easy coast to help with storm damage there!

So I have a 2 week wait before I can even talk to anyone.

We do appreciate it, I got power back in around 36 hours. The ice cubes in the freezer didn't even melt.

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Re: Can I do this? (Electrical)
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2017, 12:23:41 PM »
Thanks,

I have a call out, but unfortunately my utility sent all their line workers to the easy coast to help with storm damage there!

So I have a 2 week wait before I can even talk to anyone.

We do appreciate it, I got power back in around 36 hours. The ice cubes in the freezer didn't even melt.

Glad to hear it!

I think I still have PTSD from dealing with the gas company, so I'm expecting the worst.

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Re: Can I do this? (Electrical)
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 02:51:50 PM »
In a situation like that, I would simply run the line to the side of the garage and then trench in the line between the garage and the house. Much cleaner look and much less likely to get into with ladders and such.
Seconded. This is the best option.

Alternative: work with the electric co to install a new private pole on your property and zig zag around the garage.

Alternative 2: Is there another pole besides the one currently in use that could provide power to your house? I.e. the next closest pole?

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Re: Can I do this? (Electrical)
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 12:03:27 PM »
Update:

So I had the electric company come out and take a look. The pole itself is leaning badly (over the garage it turns out). So after about 10 mins of talking shit, claiming the pole belonged to AT&T, and saying they maintain their equipment... yup turns out it belongs to them, placed in 1940! Turns out it has a support cable strung to it to keep it from falling. This cable is probably 10-12 feet off the ground. It also comes into contact with live high voltage lines, so this pole needs to go for sure!

So they said they would replace it and move it further from my house/garage so that will by me the space need to be far enough from the lines.

I also have to "mid span" one my neighbors lines for $400 bucks.

Thanks for the comments, the power company did recommend running the meter to the garage and a sub-meter to the house, but that would cost me a pretty penny (2-3k?) and require yet another trench to be dug in my back yard! I am just going to keep the original plan and have the sub-meter in the garage.

The good news is all the foundations and sidewalks have be poured so I can start framing next week!




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Re: Can I do this? (Electrical)
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2017, 01:02:58 PM »
I had no idea poles could last that long. Think about it. That tree might have started growing in the early 1900s.

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Re: Can I do this? (Electrical)
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2017, 01:46:05 PM »
Cool, I'm glad it worked out. I had one of these, where I need a pole to solve a tricky issue with feeding a new home. It was too far for a mid-span tap, and the wire would of hung too low. The supervisor tells me that I need to pay for it, and it will be some crazy number, like over a grand. I tell him that dog won't hunt. We stare at each other a while and he says, "Oh, I got it. You need to tell me that you are requesting a yard light". I stare at him like he is nuts. He says, "no really, tell me exactly what I just said". I respond, "well, sir, it just occurred to me that I really need a yard light, right about there". He then says, "That's great, I can put a big pole right there, and put a street light on it, you then pay the $14 a month, for a minimum of a year, and were all good to go".  I got the huge pole I needed to supply the new house service. A few months later I sold the house. The new customer called immediately, and told them to take the $14 off her bill, since she wasn't paying to provide neighborhood street lighting. They remove the charge, keep the light lit, and even show up on occasion to re-lamp it, even though they haven't billed a dime for it, in seven or eight years of use. Yea, utilities can be weird.

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!