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hooch

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Breakfast bar/overhanging countertop question
« on: July 02, 2012, 09:54:14 PM »
Hello mustachians,


I'm having some granite work done in my kitchen.  There's about a 9' breakfast bar that will stick out about 18-20" from the half wall (2x4" studs).  My granite guy said I need to install something to support the countertop (he can do it, but would like to save a bit of money).    I found some corbels at Home Depot but they were around $40 a pop.  Any more cost-effective ideas out there?

thanks
JR

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Re: Breakfast bar/overhanging countertop question
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2012, 11:21:24 PM »
The place I live in now has a bar like that.  It is supported by some decorative L brackets.  It has a spirally/fench kind of design under the L piece.  I bet they are pretty cheap.

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Re: Breakfast bar/overhanging countertop question
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 10:22:31 PM »
Hello mustachians,


I'm having some granite work done in my kitchen.  There's about a 9' breakfast bar that will stick out about 18-20" from the half wall (2x4" studs).  My granite guy said I need to install something to support the countertop (he can do it, but would like to save a bit of money).    I found some corbels at Home Depot but they were around $40 a pop.  Any more cost-effective ideas out there?

thanks
JR

Rule of thumb is that 3cm granite can extend 12" beyond the support - any more, and you need supplementary support. If it's just resting on a half-wall, you essentially have all of that weight suspended, and will need some serious support.

If you have a 9' long piece, that's almost 2' deep, that alone is about $600-$700 total cost to install (for 3cm) - to pay an extra $160 or so for 4 (?) supplementary corbels isn't too outrageous, IMO. You don't want this thing to crack a year or two from now when someone leans on it the wrong way...

After extensively remodeling my 50 year old house a few years ago, I realized that in some cases, you can cut costs and come up with creative solutions....but in other situations, you'll wind up dicking around with it and wind up spending more (just in money, ignoring the significant time cost) trying to invent a fix that, in the end, might not even work. If we're talking about a 9' long granite bar that is 18" deep, I would skip the headaches and go directly to the sound solution, given the 'penalty' for a failed design.


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Re: Breakfast bar/overhanging countertop question
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 01:24:07 PM »
Hello mustachians,


I'm having some granite work done in my kitchen.  There's about a 9' breakfast bar that will stick out about 18-20" from the half wall (2x4" studs).  My granite guy said I need to install something to support the countertop (he can do it, but would like to save a bit of money).    I found some corbels at Home Depot but they were around $40 a pop.  Any more cost-effective ideas out there?

thanks
JR

Rule of thumb is that 3cm granite can extend 12" beyond the support - any more, and you need supplementary support. If it's just resting on a half-wall, you essentially have all of that weight suspended, and will need some serious support.

If you have a 9' long piece, that's almost 2' deep, that alone is about $600-$700 total cost to install (for 3cm) - to pay an extra $160 or so for 4 (?) supplementary corbels isn't too outrageous, IMO. You don't want this thing to crack a year or two from now when someone leans on it the wrong way...

After extensively remodeling my 50 year old house a few years ago, I realized that in some cases, you can cut costs and come up with creative solutions....but in other situations, you'll wind up dicking around with it and wind up spending more (just in money, ignoring the significant time cost) trying to invent a fix that, in the end, might not even work. If we're talking about a 9' long granite bar that is 18" deep, I would skip the headaches and go directly to the sound solution, given the 'penalty' for a failed design.

So duct tape is out?

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Re: Breakfast bar/overhanging countertop question
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 10:07:18 PM »
Why would duct tape be out?  He said a "sound solution".  Is there a more sound fix for anything than duct tape??

Geesh.  Next, someone is going to try and tell me that replacing my car window with duct tape isn't "sound".

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