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$50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« on: December 28, 2023, 09:34:17 PM »
I think like 4 years ago it was $20 per gallon?  What the heck?

I need some exterior paint to paint a porch column and under the eaves.. needs some frugal ideas.  I can't believe paint is that expensive now.
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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2023, 10:02:32 PM »
Sherwin Williams has regular 40% off sales.  They're every six to eight weeks or so, and the employees sometimes can tell you when they're going to happen.  Still expensive, but worth waiting for.  Good paint, too.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2023, 02:29:56 AM »
If you have a Habitat for Humanity store nearby, they remix paint and resell. It’s only very basic colors, but 1 gallon of exterior paint might be $15.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2023, 04:07:47 AM »
In my experience, the more expensive the paint, the better it is. Like above, I wait for SW sales and stock up in advance of an upcoming project.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2023, 05:28:31 AM »
I’ve also heard that Sherwin Williams will allow you to buy untinted paint during a sale and come back later to add the tint at no extra cost. That way you can take advantage of the sale even before you have chosen your paint color.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2023, 08:01:14 AM »
Thanks for the tips y'all.

Sherwin Williams has regular 40% off sales.  They're every six to eight weeks or so, and the employees sometimes can tell you when they're going to happen.  Still expensive, but worth waiting for.  Good paint, too.

I’ve also heard that Sherwin Williams will allow you to buy untinted paint during a sale and come back later to add the tint at no extra cost. That way you can take advantage of the sale even before you have chosen your paint color.

Do these sales happen say at Lowe's?  (I've read that SW is like basically one of the very best brands compared to Behr, etc.) I got a bunch of Lowe's gift cards for 20% off on average.
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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2023, 08:25:04 AM »
Do these sales happen say at Lowe's?  (I've read that SW is like basically one of the very best brands compared to Behr, etc.) I got a bunch of Lowe's gift cards for 20% off on average.

Not from what I understand.  Only at the standalone SW stores.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2023, 11:15:52 AM »
Not sure if it's our local SW store or not, but ask for the contractor discount- everybody gets it here. 

This way I get cheaper paint, and can bill my wife for home improvement projects. :D 

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2023, 12:15:31 PM »
Not sure if it's our local SW store or not, but ask for the contractor discount- everybody gets it here. 

Depends on the store (actually depends on the guy at the store at the time how big or if there is a discount) but there is no penalty for asking.   

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2023, 12:40:53 PM »
Good quality paint is expensive. By all means, go get the $20/gal paint, however be prepared to repaint in a few years. I see it on my garage. I used a decent paint on the trim, and a better quality paint on the walls. Guess which paint is holding up better.

The SW paint at Lowe's isn't exactly the same you'll get at the SW store, at least last I checked. For an interior bedroom wall it's fine, but I wouldn't use it for exterior. I only get paint from the SW store, but I can get paint chips from Lowe's and the SW store can use them.

There are 30% sales and less frequently 40% off sales. I got the know the people at the store I went to and they gave me discounts, etc when they could.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2023, 12:55:17 PM »
However, it’s true that the price of paint has really jumped. Painting used to be a cheap project and now it’s really not.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2023, 01:03:42 PM »
Checking out the Sherwin-Williams website  -- found some local stores with a google search.  (I've never even seen a Sherwin Williams store here since I've lived here.. I thought stores which just sold paint were history -- I remember them in the late 1970's and early 80's.

Anyways i am overwhelmed by all the options.. to many different types of exterior paint to choose from ranging from $50 to $128 (wtf).  I guess I need to know which SW to buy then watch out for the sales.  No rush on the paint job.
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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2023, 05:40:59 PM »
Per Consumer Reports, Valspar Duramax at Lowe's is the least expensive good paint out there but it's still $40/gallon. SW Duration, from the same source and anecdotally, is overrated.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2023, 03:17:53 AM »

Anyways i am overwhelmed by all the options.. to many different types of exterior paint to choose from ranging from $50 to $128 (wtf).  I guess I need to know which SW to buy then watch out for the sales.  No rush on the paint job.

For exterior paint, I go with their SuperPaint exterior line.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2023, 06:11:08 AM »
Since we're bitching about paint prices, pro tip from my grandfather who picked up painting gigs all through retirement: buy good brushes and take care of them. 

Good brushes give a more consistent application and less wasted paint.   

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2023, 06:57:00 AM »
Lol, I spend $70/gallon for shitty BEN grade BM paint in Newfoundland.

For my city place I spent closer to $80/gallon on Aura grade paint, but I was doing an extremely pigmented colour, so it was absolutely worth it to not have to do 3 coats because I was doing the work myself on a limited time budget. That was in 2019, I think it costs $115 now or something like that?

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2023, 07:26:32 PM »
Another endorsement for Sherwin-Williams paint.  We repainted 80% of the interior of our house last year with the $80/gallon (Emerald) paint, but a friend is a paint contractor, so we got the 25% discount through him.  It's definitely a lot better than other paint we've used--adheres better, covers better, and wears better.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2023, 03:45:42 AM »
We went to Lowe's one day and they had photocopied "50% Off All Paint" signs taped up all over the paint department, so we bought some. No idea why it was on an unadvertised sale, but it was lucky timing. Might be worth a phone call to Lowe's.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2023, 07:28:35 AM »
I've had good luck with Habitat for Humanity for quality paint at a steep discount. Not remixed paint, but usually paint that's been donated by a contractor or organization when they overbought. I've been impressed with how well the paint I used from there has held up in my laundry room, both because I was painting over paneling with a melamine finish and because it's humid in there. It's been two years and it still looks as good as the day I put it on.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2023, 09:25:29 AM »
I've had good luck with Habitat for Humanity for quality paint at a steep discount. Not remixed paint, but usually paint that's been donated by a contractor or organization when they overbought. I've been impressed with how well the paint I used from there has held up in my laundry room, both because I was painting over paneling with a melamine finish and because it's humid in there. It's been two years and it still looks as good as the day I put it on.

This is what I used for my rental units.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2024, 07:43:38 AM »
I used to use only SW super paint, but they changed the formula a few years back and it no longer covers well. I've been using Behr Marquee (still $50 a gallon) since then and I think it is on par with SW Emerald for $30 less a gallon. The commenter who posted about good brushes is spot on. Buy Wooster Chinex brushes on Ebay for $12.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2024, 03:29:53 PM »
The commenter who posted about good brushes is spot on. Buy Wooster Chinex brushes on Ebay for $12.

Does the following brush look okay to you? or could it be counterfeit?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/195950427001

Only $10 free shipping.  I see others with bare wood handle for around $13-15.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2024, 08:36:34 AM »
I'm not sure I would ever buy a paint brush from Ebay and risk getting a knockoff or scammed in some other way. I just pick up a brush now and then at the SW store when I go to pick up my paint. The one near me sells Purdy brushes which are as good as Wooster. If painting a door or some other object where brush strokes are important, I'll pick up a new brush. Otherwise, I just keep reusing the old ones for jobs such as cutting in paint next to trim or ceiling.

Perhaps Wooster does this too, but for me, the most valuable aspect of a Purdy brush is the cardboard sleeve they come in. After rinsing thoroughly, I put the brush (still wet) into the waxed cardboard sleeve and fold the flaps back to the way they came. This helps keep the bristles nice and straight for the next job. Doing the same inside a plastic sleeve like your linked Wooster would only ensure a lot of mold growth if used or stray brush fibers sticking out the next time you went to use them if you ditched the plastic sleeve.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2024, 06:00:37 PM »
DH and are on an interminable drive home from our rentals.

Me: What kind of paintbrushes do you like?
Mr. D: The kind that I paint with.

After he got over himself, he said "Wooster"

Me: I always see Purdy brushes in your painting stuff.
Mr. D: Yeah, they used to be good, but the new ones suck. Sherwin Williams bought them and they turned to shit. All of my Purdy's are old.

There you have it, folks. We're only two hours from home now. Thanks!

P.S. Mr. D is a recently retired painting contractor. FIRE class of '22.
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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2024, 02:51:14 AM »
Thanks for sharing that :)  Wooster it is!  A cheap Wooster from eBay if I can get away with it :)   Sometimes you get the real thing for good prices :)

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2024, 03:19:24 AM »
For rooms I care about, I go with Benjamin Moore Regal Select or Ben, and both are more than $50/gal. Not only is it good quality paint, but my local store has a color consultant on staff which is extremely valuable.

Remember a good paint job is all about prep, and in many cases you'll be spending more on tools and supplies than the actual paint.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2024, 12:17:00 PM »
For rooms I care about, I go with Benjamin Moore Regal Select or Ben, and both are more than $50/gal. Not only is it good quality paint, but my local store has a color consultant on staff which is extremely valuable.

Remember a good paint job is all about prep, and in many cases you'll be spending more on tools and supplies than the actual paint.

Tools, supplies and paint is the cheap part of painting. LABOR is the expensive thing. Yes, prep is critical. And good prep takes time.

The bottle of lysol or whatever you're using to wash the walls, and rags and bucket and mop are cheap. What's expensive is the time spent on washing and then rinsing the walls.
Spackle and a putty knife are cheap. It's expensive to spend the hours carefully patching and sanding small holes.
Stripper, scrapers, and sand paper are cheap. It's expensive to spend the days stripping off layers of old cruddy paint, then sanding.
Lead tests are cheap. The plastic and tape and masks are cheap. The time spent in setting up containment, in cleaning up the dust - that's expensive.

Painting is one of the most cost effective DIY things you can do. Not because paint is expensive. Because it takes a lot of time to do it right, and time is expensive. Which is primarily why I do not understand why people cheap out on the paint. Good quality paint looks better and lasts longer, and given how expensive it is to do the job it is very much worthwhile to spend more on the paint.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2024, 12:32:56 PM »
I am not going to cheap out on the paint, I am just in shock it DOUBLED in price in the past 3 years.  It's outrageous paint costing $130 per gallon.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2024, 05:28:51 PM »
You need to find a real painter who makes their living painting. Have them buy the paint you desire because they get huge savings. The markup on paint is a lot and the painting services get great discounts.

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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2024, 05:26:49 AM »
You need to find a real painter who makes their living painting. Have them buy the paint you desire because they get huge savings. The markup on paint is a lot and the painting services get great discounts.

Yep, pretty much any contractor can get a good discount on paint.

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« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2024, 08:35:17 AM »
If you want to go the Sherwin Williams route, sign up for their emails.  They pretty much are always running a sale on something or another.  I think I've seen up to 40% off paint (though that may have been pre-pandemic), which typically comes in the off season (you get the biggest discount on exterior paint in the winter, and interior paint in the summer)

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« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2024, 06:30:29 PM »
Kelly-Moore is big in my part of the world. DH likes their paint and has had an account with them for decades. They abruptly closed all their stores yesterday.

Update/Related Lesson/Cautionary Tale:
DH tracked down a couple of people at KM that he's known for years. There is no rescue plan and they're not reorganizing/morphing into something else. They're done, kaput. One friend had retired before everything fell apart and moved all his money out of KM stock. The others were sadly left with nothing.

Lesson: Working for a company is enough eggs in one basket. Don't overload your retirement accounts with your company stock.

Related: My brother just sold a chunk of his company stock right before it had a big upswing, to the tune of a theoretical $150k "loss". He's "meh" about it. He knows rebalancing is the best strategy in the long run. He just looks at what he actually paid for the stock and gets that he still made a killing. We should all be like him.
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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2024, 08:45:56 PM »
I always have a package of baby wipes near when I paint to wipe up drips, etc. So much more efficient than a paint rag. It never fails there’s a smidge of paint on the back of the paint rag that makes a mess while wiping up.

Also, I painted public art with my HS students for close to 40 years. Used every type and brand of paint under the sun. I lean heavily towards Benjamin Moore for exterior, but have found Walmart paint and primer for interior to be very effective.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2024, 08:30:27 PM »
When I shopped at lowes in 2021 for painting my door, 1 quart for $25.

Saw on clearance, 5gal of exterior paint for $15 a bucket.
they were discontinuing a line of paint. But the employee told me or is a very good paint at unbelievable price.
I picked up 3 5gal buckets. Painted the garage on new and rental house.

Not saying it is common, but after that I always check lowes clearance. But apart from coupons, clearance, the fair pricing seem to be very much not seen.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2024, 07:21:38 AM »
I just paid $87 for a gallon of Benjamin Moore Advance.... The difference between that and Menard's "Dutch Boy Platinum Plus" for $50 is wild, and makes the $87 less egregious.

All that said, I wholeheartedly agree. Paint has probably 2-3x in the last 8 years.

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Re: $50 per gallon of paint... really?!
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2024, 02:09:52 PM »
The commenter who posted about good brushes is spot on. Buy Wooster Chinex brushes on Ebay for $12.

Does the following brush look okay to you? or could it be counterfeit?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/195950427001

Only $10 free shipping.  I see others with bare wood handle for around $13-15.

Probably way too late, but nope. Look at what they sell for $20 at home depot and buy that on ebay. Chinex FTP.

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!