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Luck12

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Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« on: March 15, 2018, 09:56:35 AM »
Life:

40, single, no kids, not supporting anyone, large upper middle cost of living city.  Job is low stress most of the time, I never work nights or weekends, and almost every day is 9-4 or 9-4:30.  Still I would rather not be in the office. 

For purposes of this discussion let’s assume I remain single and childless.

Income

Salary:  130K
Avg Annual Bonus over last 5 years:  20K
Avg Annual Dividends over last 5 years:  5K – 8K
Bank account bonuses:  $3K
Credit card bonuses:  $4K

Assets:

401K:  580K
Non-retirement brokerage account:  470K
Roth IRA's: 40K
Cash/savings:  75K
HSA: 35K

Total asset allocation:  15% S&P 500, 15% small value index, 40% int’l index, 24% bond index, 6% cash/savings

Total assets without home equity = 1.2 million

Home value according to Redfin = 230K
Mortgage balance = 148K

Home equity assuming sale price of 200K and minus realtor fees, costs associated with sprucing up the place, etc = 40K

If I work one more year and market is flat I would reach around $1,280,000 in assets excluding home equity.

Expenses:

I have kept track over the last year:

Mortgage, condo fees, real estate taxes = $1,425 a month or $17,100 a year

Annual condo insurance = $400 a year

There was a special assessment of $3,800 3 years ago and before that the last one was around $2,000 10 years ago so I’ll conservatively assume $1,500 a year for this.

Home maintenance:  I haven’t spent anything on this, but let’s assume $500 a year.

Groceries and toiletries = $325 a month or $3,900 a year

Eating out = $50 a month or $600 a year

General non-travel entertainment = $1,500 a year (actually don’t spend that much but being conservative).

Hobbies, race fees, etc = $500 a year

Umbrella insurance = $200 a year

Uber = $300 a year

Public Transit = $400 a year

Phone bill = $300 a year

Clothes = $200 a year

Amortization of possible replacement of bed, furniture, computer, phone = $250 a year

Amortization of possible replacement of bike = $50 a year

Bike maintenance/repair = $100 a year

Running and hiking shoes = $400 a year

Annual Christmas gifts to family = $500 a year

Political donations:  $100 a year

Charity:  I give $3K a year now but after FIRE I’ll increase my weekly hours volunteering from 3 to 10-15 so $0 here after FIRE

Total expenses excluding travel, health insurance, health care = $28,800

I think I can make $500 after taxes on bank bonuses after FIRE so let’s bring expenses down to $28,300 after that.

Travel

Due to having many miles, I don’t have to spend on flights for the next at least 5 years.   Anticipate $4,000 a year in travel and can cut down if necessary.

Total expenses after Travel and after-tax bank bonuses are included = $32,300

Health Care

The big unknown of course.  No pre-existing conditions, in good health, would qualify for ACA tax credits and possibly cost sharing subsidies.   Main thing as far as health care for me are pre-existing protections, reasonable annual out of pocket max, no lifetime cap.  I could deal with say $10K-$15K annual health care costs if I had to.







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Re: Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 02:27:40 PM »
FIRE away. Historically your assets could support your level of spending.

My situation overlaps with yours in a few areas. We have roughly the same assets, no kids, still have a mortgage, will rely on ACA for health insurance and I’m a few years older but my wife is almost 40. We actually spend more than you and I will be leaving my job in two weeks. My wife left hers in June 2017. My case study:

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/case-studies/is-this-fire-plan-'razor-thin'/

As long as you can be flexible and potentially go back to work if the ACA continues to be dismantled or maybe pick up some parttime work to bring in some income to help mitigate sequence risk, I think you should give your notice tomorrow. Seriously. Get out of that office.

You did say your job is low stress and the hours aren’t terrible. Is there any way you could work remotely or is that not an option? I personally wouldn’t mind staying at my job for another 1-2 years if I could work from anywhere.




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Re: Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2018, 03:50:20 PM »
Great position to FIRE now.

What are you retiring to? Do you have a good idea of how you will ease into non working life?

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Re: Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2018, 05:29:30 PM »
Your equity and expenses aren't terribly different than mine, and I know I'm able to FIRE.  Biggest difference is that you've split up your travel, hobbies, entertainment related costs totaling around $7000 while I just say everything left after my necessary expenses is my fun/travel budget, which is roughly $30k/yr.  If I decide to relocate when I FIRE, that will shift my numbers some.  I'm living in LCOL area now.  I also allocated $1200/yr to home maintenance, based on the last 15 years in my current home, yet I still don't think that's enough when you start factoring in everything over the long term.  There's a good thread here regarding home maintenance costs:

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/budgeting-home-maintenance-costs/

Regarding the $30K/yr for fun/travel, that just means it's available for that, but my natural frugal tendencies will probably result in me spending somewhere south of there.   Same thing as you on the health care - looking to get PCT.

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Re: Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2018, 06:42:14 PM »
Great position to FIRE now.

What are you retiring to? Do you have a good idea of how you will ease into non working life?

Thanks everyone.  I'm going to volunteer a lot more hours in the area of tax prep and financial literacy, get more involved in political activism (I make a lot of calls and have done data entry for a Senate campaign this year, but can do a lot more such as canvassing, voter registration drives, etc if/when FIRE).   

I already hike and camp  a lot on my vacations and some weekends so I'll be hiking/camping for 3-4 months straight every year.  Also have the itch to do the Pacific Crest Trail but hesitating due in part to my lean weight, have heard you lose a lot of weight doing it and I just can't afford that. 

Anyway, I hesitate to FIRE this year vs next year due to:

1) Waiting to see how the 2018 elections pan out.

2) Market is so high, I've checked the CAPE based SWR % success from the Early Retirement Now blog and even at 3.5% SWR, it's like 90% safe over 50 year horizon, still I hesitate.

3) Job is low stress and hassle free most of the time.  I work from home 2-3 times a week. 

On the other hand I have MMM's latest blog post in mind... 
« Last Edit: March 15, 2018, 06:44:30 PM by Luck12 »

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Re: Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 10:17:20 PM »
What are you retiring to? Do you have a good idea of how you will ease into non working life?

This is the only relevant question.  Financially you're GTG.

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Re: Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 10:26:54 PM »
You can, but do you plan on marrying?  If you do marry, are you expecting your bride to keep working? 

I think understanding what you and your family will be in the future is important. 

What are you budgeting for health care.  I currently pay approximately $25k a year for the family(As an owner, no employer contribution).  What happens if ACA goes away, if you are insuring more than yourself, etc.?

If you are planning on marrying, having kids, adopting kids, etc. Then I think you are quite a bit light.  If you are happy single, with no kids, then your needs are significantly lower.  You are probably there with a modest budget.



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Re: Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2018, 12:05:27 AM »
You’ve done great obviously.  FIRE when ready!

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Re: Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2018, 05:45:21 PM »
If your nervous take a year and pay off your mortgage. Low stress job so one more year isn’t end of world.

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Re: Can this 40 year old FIRE this year or next year?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2018, 04:45:04 AM »
I say yes!!!!! My portfolio looks similar to yours except I have passive income coming in from REI. My FIRE date is Dec 31 of THIS YEAR barring any unforeseen circumstances. Congrats on creating an amazing life for yourself!!!