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Wahugg

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A 1 Hour Commute Seems to be my Answer
« on: March 21, 2018, 02:52:28 PM »
Greeting's all,

I've been reading MMM since 2015 and now that I am graduating from college, I find myself in a situation where I feel compelled to post and get more insight into the numbers.

Situation: I am moving to Columbus Ohio to work for a Financial Advising firm which of course requires me to sort out housing.
Option 1: My parents live 20.5 miles/ 28 minutes (one way) from the office and have offered for me to move back in for free.
Option 2: Rent close to the office for ~$900 1 bedroom, $1500 2 bedroom (slit $750). Commute would be anywhere from 4-8 miles, and about 13 minutes (again one way).

Following MMM post here: http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/10/06/the-true-cost-of-commuting/, I set up a spread sheet similarly. The article is geared around buying a house, not renting, and no matter how I crunch the numbers, it seems to always be in my advantage to commute the 20.5 miles. This includes a detailed, generous full maintenance schedule and my expensive as hell 500k CSL + full collision insurance.

I have attached the spreadsheet so people can see exactly how I got my numbers. Any and all insight is appreciated.

Regards,
Wahugg

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Re: A 1 Hour Commute Seems to be my Answer
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2018, 03:17:13 PM »
Having been in similar circumstances and then returning the favor to parents who eventually relocated closer to me, I say move back in with them for the time being. Set a short term goal say, 2 years, and save that money you would otherwise be paying in rent towards a down-payment, emergency fund, or nest egg. As you figure your career out over the next few years you may want to move to an entirely different location then the two you are considering now.

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Re: A 1 Hour Commute Seems to be my Answer
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2018, 03:22:58 PM »
Move in with your parents for the first 6-12 months, but then move into town and try very hard to avoid commuting by car entirely (walk up to 1 mile, bike up to 4, without hesitation).

When you are just starting out it will probably be hard to trade your time for money at a $40 rate -- that's equivalent to an $80,000 per year salary, which is pretty rare for a fresh-out-of-school kid in Columbus, OH. So I'm discounting your time value a bit, and I think the commute works for now on the numbers without question. But after a few years of experience you should start to value your time at least that much, and the spreadsheet numbers then look a lot dicier.

Much more important, because the "cost" of commuting on your spreadsheet (which seems fairly reasonable but probably underestimates random repairs a little bit) is mainly the imputed value of your time, and not cash outlay, you will hopefully have the chance to bank up a good little nest egg in 6-12 months. This will be very useful in allowing you to shop around for exactly the right place (don't have to worry if a large security deposit is requested), furnish it without going into debt, and the time elapsed will probably allow you to really get a feel for the in-town neighborhoods, meet potential good roommates, and plan things out are carefully as you can. This will maximize your chances of getting a good place at a good price that you will enjoy living in, with exactly the location that will allow you to render a car commute unnecessary.

Jumping right into a lease or roommate situation which turns out to be bad can be a somewhat annoying and expensive mistake; not everyone has the luxury of free room and board within a broadly reasonable commute of his first job, but you do. So I say take advantage. But don't lull yourself into thinking that a 30 minute per direction car commute is sustainable indefinitely -- it isn't a great idea long-term, and after your first two weeks on the job you should immediately begin working on a plan to get rid of it within a year.

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Re: A 1 Hour Commute Seems to be my Answer
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2018, 03:31:18 PM »
It's definitely cheaper to live with the parents and commute at first.  Don't let that be an excuse to go out to dinners and buy Gucci shoes....

Take that $750 you would have spent on rent and put it in an account. Better yet, give your parents $625/month as collateral to hold for you until you move out so that you won't be tempted to go out to dinner and buy stuff. (That's the difference between the $750 for rent and the actual mileage costs you'll have each month.) I'm pretty sure you trust your parents. If you don't see it, you won't spend it.

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Re: A 1 Hour Commute Seems to be my Answer
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2018, 03:39:08 PM »
It sounds like it would make sense to live with your parents for awhile so that you can save up for a place. Also, this will give you a chance to make sure that you like the job and want to stay before you sign a one-year lease.

When you are ready to look for a place on your own, try Padmapper. It lets you map out available apartments and filter them by cost. I found it helpful in the past for finding a place to live close to work. https://www.padmapper.com/


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Re: A 1 Hour Commute Seems to be my Answer
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2018, 03:50:16 PM »
Half hour a day is 130 hours a year.  $9,000 (750x12) / 130 = $69 per hour tax free.

Other than the fact you have to live with your parents, seems like a no brainer unless you drive an escalade.


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Re: A 1 Hour Commute Seems to be my Answer
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2018, 03:50:27 PM »
One more note about this. Now that I've looked at Padmapper, I think you may be overestimating the rents in Columbus. You'd probably be able to find your own place for $750, rather than only being able to split a place at that price. Living with your parents would still be cheaper, especially since there are also utilities to think of, but it's worth getting a real sense of the range of rents if that is a factor.

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Re: A 1 Hour Commute Seems to be my Answer
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2018, 09:48:21 AM »
Living with parents can be a real bummer especially if you are dating.

If you decide to live with your parents use the time to aggressively pay down any student loans. Meanwhile try to find someone who will go halves on a 2br so you can bike to work.