Author Topic: Feedback needed: RRSP withdrawals & CPP timing for Canadian/US citizen  (Read 1140 times)

travel2020

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Hello,

I recently learned about the US/Canada windfall elimination program and hoping to get some feedback from those who have worked in both Canada/US on best way to approach to claiming CPP & RRSP withdrawals:

- CPP: It’s my understanding that US social security benefits are reduced based on how long one has worked in the US, with no reduction after 30 years. Based on current plans, I’ll be short a few years from that so would like to minimize impact of CPP on the US benefits. Based on various web posts I’ve come across, it seems the best approach is to claim CPP as early as possible (60?) and delay the US benefits to max or close to it (70). Is that the best approach if one is looking to minimize the impact on US benefits/maximize overall benefits across CPP/social security?
- RRSP: I have a RRSP that has been on autopilot for the last couple of decades. Originally I was planning to leave it alone till 70 but based on what I’ve researched, that would result in high minimum annual withdrawals at the same time as required minimum distributions for IRAs on the US side. Would it be better to convert to the RRSP to a RRIF and start doing minimum withdrawals now? Canada will deduct taxes automatically on withdrawal but my understanding is that I’d be able to claim those against my US taxes.
- Some related questions:
— how do I go about finding my CPP contributions and estimated CPP payment?
— recommendations for RRIF providers?
— If anyone has recommendations for a cross-border planner who can help navigate this for a reasonable fee, that would be helpful as well.
 
Thanks in advance!

treffpunkt

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— how do I go about finding my CPP contributions and estimated CPP payment?

You can see that information in your My Service Canada account.
https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/my-account.html

I left the US just shy of 40 credits so I don't have to worry about WEP and can't help you with any of your other questions unfortunately.

travel2020

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Thanks @treffpunkt, I’ll setup a Service Canada account to get the info.

Margie

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I am curious about this too!

I thought if you left Canada you had to cash out your RRSPs and pay a departure tax?  Can you leave them in Canada to grow tax free until withdrawal in retirement?

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I thought if you left Canada you had to cash out your RRSPs and pay a departure tax?  Can you leave them in Canada to grow tax free until withdrawal in retirement?

US/Canada have a treaty that covers certain retirement accounts, RRSP being one of them. You can leave the RRSP as is but are limited in what you can do trading wise. You also have to file certain forms about the RRSP each year as part of your US taxes but the money grows tax free till you start withdrawing.

I don’t know if there are similar treaties with other countries.

treffpunkt

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US/Canada have a treaty that covers certain retirement accounts, RRSP being one of them. You can leave the RRSP as is but are limited in what you can do trading wise. You also have to file certain forms about the RRSP each year as part of your US taxes but the money grows tax free till you start withdrawing.


Mostly true, but keep in mind that not all states follow federal tax treaties. California, for example, where RRSP growth is taxable at the state level (but not federally).