retarded. i lost my job at the hospital because of V axe mandates. my wifes ICU dept is literally in crisis mode because of all the nurses leaving either from the jabs or the unappreciative treatment. Clown world.
You could have got the jab. You chose not to. Fine with me, it's your life to waste. But choices have consequences.
Just like how obese people represent over 90% of those in hospital for covid.
Can you source this statistic? Obesity is certainly a factor that increases risk with covid, but I haven't read anything about it being anywhere near that significant.
I do not remember where I saw the over 90% study, and it was Canadian, but after a quick google, here is a US one that shows 78%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html
OK, so the "over 90%" figure is hyperbole. That makes sense.
The CDC says that obesity triples the likelihood of hospitalization and death
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html, which is quite significant and seems (roughly) in line with the news article from 2021 that you linked.
Did you blame those people who the Germans rounded up in WWII for not leaving Germany?
There was no vaccine Auschwitz. There was no vaccine-related confiscation of land/homes. There was no vaccine-related attempt to build a master race through eugenics. There were no unvaccinated people beaten to death, starved, and murdered. Cattle cars packed with the unvaccinated did not cross our country.
I'd strongly encourage you to read a little about the Second World War before making further comments demonstrating ignorance.
I do know a little about the second world war and have read about it, but I am no way an expert. However, that was not the point of the argument. I never said there were vaccine concentration camps here in Canada (They call them detention facilities). I did not mention peoples homes and land were confiscated, but there were bank accounts frozen because of protests against mandates. I did not mention or compare anything about the plight of the unvaccinated to the plight of any other discriminated groups of people.[/quote]
Maybe don't compare a voluntary vaccination with the Holocaust then. More hyperbole?
I never said there were vaccine concentration camps here in Canada (They call them detention facilities).
Canadian detention facilities are in no way similar to Nazi concentration camps. Again, I am forced to ask you to read a little about the Second World War if you're going to continue to make comparisons to it. You are minimizing the torture and murder of hundreds of thousands by continuing to make these ridiculous comments.
Again, I am forced to assume in good faith that this is done through ignorance rather than intentional malice. Please educate yourself about the things you're discussing.
If you would like to read more about it this, and I suggest you should, this was a good article. https://susandunham.medium.com/what-we-learned-from-hating-the-unvaccinated-fc428fa0732c
Certainly reads as a silly article.
"It was not through quiet compliance that we avoided endless domination by pharmaceutical companies and medical checkpoints at every doorway. It was thanks to the people we tried to tear down." is a particularly ridiculous line. Nobody ever suggested medical checkpoints at every doorway . . . and there were never plans to give pharmaceutical companies domination over anyone. It was thanks to the unvaccinated that we had more death - both directly due to covid and indirectly due to hospitals that were overrun.
I didn't (and don't) hate the unvaccinated. They have a problem that they aren't able to overcome. Do you hate someone who blows all their money on booze rather than saving for retirement? Their bad decision is their bad decision to make. But just as the guy with 11 DUIs shouldn't be driving city buses around town, the nurse who voluntarily chooses to not to vaccinate shouldn't be around patients in a hospital. Nothing to do with hate, if your actions prove that you're unfit for a job you shouldn't be doing that job.
My point was if you apply rocktpj's argument to anything and everything then it will quickly lead down a very dark path.
It should be reasonably simple to say that without bringing up poor comparisons to the Holocaust.
Who gave the employers, or government the authority to mandate any medical procedure on any individual? When did employers and governments get the power to mandate medical procedures? How did they get this power to mandate medical procedures? I would also like to know the why, but I have a feeling we will never know the true story behind it.
That's certainly a shadowy conspiracy ridden world-view!
Given that there are multiple lawsuits in Canadian courts right now regarding government vaccine mandates and dismissal of employees for the same, it is certain that we will know exactly what powers employers and the government have in this area in a few years at most.
There are valid questions in this area. We live in a system of government and order, checks and balances. It's not always as immediate as we would like, but generally the system works well to define these problems and correct oversteps that occur.
Free speech has consequences. You sometimes hear things you do not like. You combat this with more intelligent speech.
Medical freedom has consequences. You sometimes have a population that grows obese and unhealthy. Let them.
Sure, I agree with that.
And GuitarStv, instead of "attacking" the individual making the argument, try "attacking" the argument instead. It creates a better society.
I apologize if you felt personally attacked when I pointed out your ignorance in comparing the Holocaust to treatment of people who weren't vaccinated in Canada. If you would care to stop demonstrating it, I will certainly desist in pointing it out.
