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Title: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on July 21, 2016, 09:44:33 PM
Camp Mustache Canada (CMC) 2017 is a GO!!!


Camp begins in:
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Please email campmustachecanada@gmail.com if you would like to be notified Of any seats available.


Friday October 20 - 22, 2017

The venue is in the Brantford, Ontario area and will be revealed only to ticket holders. Gates will open at 10h00 on Friday morning with formal activities beginning at noon.

Tentative schedule (subject to change at any time):

DAY 1
Opening Session - Speaker 1 - Gen Finance - MonsterMonster

Breakout 1 - Speaker 2 - Urban Homesteading - TheGoblinChief
Breakout 1 - Speaker 3 - Travel Hacking -  Mrs. Arebelspy

DAY 2
Fitness - Yoga - ElleFiji

Keynote - Speaker 4 - ETF/Index investing - Dan Bortolotti

Breakout 2 - Speaker 5 - Landlording - Rachelle Berube
Breakout 2 - Speaker 6 - Life Coaching - Monkey Jenga

Breakout 3 - Speaker 7 - "Cheap Style" Home Maintenance/Gardening/Décor - PBKMaine & Deborah
Breakout 3 - Speaker 8 - Frugal Pupsters - FiFoFum
Breakout 3 - Speaker 9 - Canadian Accounting Q&A

DAY 3
Fitness - "A Brisk Walk"

Opening Session - Speaker 10 - Startups and Small Biz - AxeCleaver

Breakout 4 - Speaker 11 - Post-Fire Life Canuck Expat

Closing Presentations - "The Quickfire Round"

Group Activity - Canoeing/Hockey Game/Other??? (TBD)


CAMP MUSTACHE CANADA PRESALE SOLD OUT - accepting names for waitlist.



CMC 2017 FAQ

What is the venue?
For security reasons, the actual venue will only be released to ticket holders.

How Much Will CMC2017 Cost?
The Goal is to have tickets be about $235.

How many people are coming?
We have about 65 confirmed attendees

I got a presale Ticket - What can I do with it?
 Your presale ticket guarantees a bunk will be held in your name at CMC2017. If you find yourself unable to attend, you may transfer your reservation; however, the ticket is not refundable. We appreciate you buying a presale spot since this will give us the working capital for venue fees an materials/supplies needed in advance of the camp. The remainder of your ticket price will be billed in advance of the camp.

Who Can come?
Whoever gets a ticket

Can I bring outside food?
The venue limits outside foods strictly. All outside food must be in its original packaging and be marked peanut free. No homemade foods are allowed.

Can I bring my Spouse/Kids?
If you buy them a ticket, yes they can come. All adults pay the same rate. Infants (2 and under) are free however they will have to either cosleep or have a pack-n-play to sleep in. No beds are allocated to infants.

What is included?
3 days and 2 nights at CMC2017 including meals, a bunk bed, and all presentations. A schwag bag is also being assembled.

Who will be my room mates?
Our venue has 4 beds per room, and guests are welcome to choose their own room mates. Final ticket sales will include a form requesting all roomates be identified. This will then be confirmed before the room is set.

If you have no room mate preference, you will be assigned to a room at random. No random assignee will be put in a coed room.

What are the presentations?
At this point its too early to say for sure. There will be topics of general interest to Mustachians, as well as "Core subject matter" such as financials, careers, and post-RE.

Please feel free to ask any other questions in this thread (I monitor it closely) or via PM.

Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on July 21, 2016, 10:55:49 PM
Don't forget the geographic arbitrage opportunity. At current rates, American can go almost two for one compared to the other camp mustache..

Might be interested depending on timing. Though after November, might be hard to get across, what with the giant wall about o be built and all
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: arebelspy on July 22, 2016, 12:22:45 AM
Following.  Very interested if it's in the fall.

Have you researched into Seattle's Camp Mustache (the structure, schedule, etc.)?  That may give you a base of ideas, including things you may want to duplicate (and things you may not want to).

6. Should we try to lure in Bieber, Drake, or BNL for entertainment?

These suggestions on question #6 were obviously a joke, but did you mean the question itself seriously?

Like, CM1 had Pete and JD Roth (from GetRichSlowly).  CM2 had Pete and Brandon (MadFientist).  CM3 had Pete, Brandon, and PaulaPant from AffordAnything (and Nords, also celebrity blogger, but we got lucky that he wanted to attend, rather than was "lured" as a headliner).

Are you looking to do something similar?  Or was the whole question itself a joke?

Don't forget the geographic arbitrage opportunity. At current rates, American can go almost two for one compared to the other camp mustache..

You got me super excited, I thought something happened to the currency.  Looks like it's still a 25% discount.  :)
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on July 22, 2016, 09:51:36 AM
I actually haven't looked at the Seattle threads. I guess that should be an obvious starting point. I think that finding a cheap venue that works for GTA folks who are mostly car-less is going to be the toughest part of this. Speakers/Presentations would be a whole 'nother department.

If folks wanted to REALLY rough it, there is some crown land opportunity not too far from Barrie, but I doubt most of the crowd would go for that. Seems to me (based on what get togethers I've been to) that most of the Ontario crowd is more into wine and cheese in a platter than Smores and Brats on a stick. BUT that is from a very small sampling of very urban meetups, in a very nice setting. I was there, and I like Smores - and I'm sure I'm not the only one who can switch between wingtips and hiking boots.

Anyways, if this thread gets traction, I have some ideas to make it work, but first, lets see who is even interested.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on July 22, 2016, 10:25:19 AM
One of the organizers of the PNW Camp Mustache offered to share their experience here: http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/meetups-and-social-events/camp-mustache-2016/msg1013638/#msg1013638
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on July 30, 2016, 05:21:04 PM
Yes!  Count me in.  I'd love to meet more of you IRL. 😊
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on August 01, 2016, 02:40:24 PM
To answer some of your specific questions:

1. Are you in?
I am depending on the timelines. The earlier date is known the better.

2. Where should we do this?
No preference.

3. Any planned activities we totally MUST offer?
My favorite part of the CM that I went to was the unstructured time that had everyone together, to just hang out, chat, and learn and enjoy great company.

4. How rugged of a camp should this be? (Hotel/resort, Campground, Canoe in, Hike in?)
I'm good from needing to portage up to fancy resort if not too expensive. I think you'd get the best experience and buy-in somewhere in the middle.

5. How would you get there? (Should this be on a train/transit corridor?)
Driving some kind of vehicle probably.

6. Should we try to lure in Bieber, Drake, or BNL for entertainment?
Tragically Hip farewell tour destination?

To answer one of your other questions, I don't think you have to worry too much about carless people. For a get away, people can rent, and it's pretty easy to coordinate carpooling once people know they are going.
Also, if you decide to go more park like, isn't there a bus that goes to the parks: https://www.parkbus.ca/ ?

Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on August 01, 2016, 03:13:17 PM
I PM'ed the previous organizer and got a response, so I'll give him a call and see what tips he can offer. We were away on the North Shore of Superior for the past week (wonderful getaway - sand beaches, hiking, catching bullfrog tadpoles, etc. - see the journal) and am only now dealing with the outfall of taking a week off from the house.

In my mind I was thinking of booking a hostel near Algonquin in its entirety. This would be accommodations for about 60 ppl. with opportunity for adventures in the park on only a day pass. Rates at the Wolf Den are higher than I recalled though, so it may not be the most mustachy option.

Of course any cottage resort would work out if we went that way, but the one I have in mind really embraces the "Tribe" mentality with a communal kitchen, shared living space, and individual rooms or a bunkhouse with shared sleeping quarters.

An alternative is a private campground. I have a line on one of those up in Cornwall through cadet contacts, but Cornwall is a long way from the Toronto crowd; although it is central for Montreal and Ottawa. This camp is very rough, but has a good beach, an open field for camping and a few bunkhouses on it for "rustic" shared sleeping quarters. Also - it has a very good (although dated) industrial kitchen that can pump out a metric shitload of food if needed - and renting it would put money in a Cadet Corps pocket, which makes my heart warm since I am affiliated with the organisation on a local level here. The camp also has a bunch of classrooms which would be great if we were to attract a guest speaker.

Option C is the simplest - just book a group site at a provincial park. Everyone is responsible for their own food etc.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on August 01, 2016, 03:21:53 PM
Following.  Very interested if it's in the fall.

Have you researched into Seattle's Camp Mustache (the structure, schedule, etc.)?  That may give you a base of ideas, including things you may want to duplicate (and things you may not want to).

6. Should we try to lure in Bieber, Drake, or BNL for entertainment?

These suggestions on question #6 were obviously a joke, but did you mean the question itself seriously?

Like, CM1 had Pete and JD Roth (from GetRichSlowly).  CM2 had Pete and Brandon (MadFientist).  CM3 had Pete, Brandon, and PaulaPant from AffordAnything (and Nords, also celebrity blogger, but we got lucky that he wanted to attend, rather than was "lured" as a headliner).

Are you looking to do something similar?  Or was the whole question itself a joke?

Don't forget the geographic arbitrage opportunity. At current rates, American can go almost two for one compared to the other camp mustache..

You got me super excited, I thought something happened to the currency.  Looks like it's still a 25% discount.  :)

This has me wondering what "rockstars" in the community would be reachable to come out? As you can see in my response, I am now considering venues with a "Teaching Room" or similar more seriously. I'm not sure that Dave Chilton is our calibre or that we can afford his speaking fees.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on August 01, 2016, 03:24:13 PM
How would folks feel about CDN Thanksgiving 2017 as a working date - to get a long weekend??? Or is family time too sacred?
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on August 02, 2016, 01:23:10 PM
A brief Questionnaire for Ontario's Mustachians (and those willing to travel here):

1. Are you in?
I have to wait A WHOLE YEAR?!?  I'm not good at waiting!  😲  Can we throw something together sooner?
2. Where should we do this?
http://www.wintergreenstudios.com/retreats/  This place is awesome and kinda central to Ottawa, Mtl and TO. (And I know the owner)
3. Any planned activities we totally MUST offer?

4. How rugged of a camp should this be? (Hotel/resort, Campground, Canoe in, Hike in?)
I'm easy.
5. How would you get there? (Should this be on a train/transit corridor?)
Carpool
6. Should we try to lure in Bieber, Drake, or BNL for entertainment?
I'd be thrilled with the likes of ARS!  If we are going to plan this A YEAR in advance, maybe we can coordinate with MMM's yearly sojourn to Ontario.  And be careful not to conflict with any planned Ecuador trips?
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on August 02, 2016, 01:57:07 PM
Probably too far, but there is Cedar Cove on White Lake, an hour southwest of Ottawa.  http://www.cedarcove.ca/ (http://www.cedarcove.ca/)

I am no longer a camper, all my gear was given to DD long ago.  I do not need a 5 star hotel, but I do need my own room (social introvert, I love meeting people but I also need my own little retreat) and reasonable bathroom facilities (= indoor plumbing, not too shared).  A place that accepts dogs would be nice but not necessary.  3 hour drive is pretty much what I am willing to do.  Sounds like we need an Ottawa/Cornwall meet-up, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Nords on August 07, 2016, 01:09:50 AM
Following.  Very interested if it's in the fall.

Have you researched into Seattle's Camp Mustache (the structure, schedule, etc.)?  That may give you a base of ideas, including things you may want to duplicate (and things you may not want to).

6. Should we try to lure in Bieber, Drake, or BNL for entertainment?

These suggestions on question #6 were obviously a joke, but did you mean the question itself seriously?

Like, CM1 had Pete and JD Roth (from GetRichSlowly).  CM2 had Pete and Brandon (MadFientist).  CM3 had Pete, Brandon, and PaulaPant from AffordAnything (and Nords, also celebrity blogger, but we got lucky that he wanted to attend, rather than was "lured" as a headliner).

Are you looking to do something similar?  Or was the whole question itself a joke?

Don't forget the geographic arbitrage opportunity. At current rates, American can go almost two for one compared to the other camp mustache..

You got me super excited, I thought something happened to the currency.  Looks like it's still a 25% discount.  :)

This has me wondering what "rockstars" in the community would be reachable to come out? As you can see in my response, I am now considering venues with a "Teaching Room" or similar more seriously. I'm not sure that Dave Chilton is our calibre or that we can afford his speaking fees.
I don't see my name being added to rockstar lists, and I don't want to waste everyone's time.  I doubt that you'd get any attendees from the U.S. military and I don't know much about the Canadian Forces. 

On the other hand I'm happy to visit new places and sit around talking personal finance over a cup of coffee with interesting people. 

I would prefer not to experience cold weather ("cold" meaning "less than 55 degrees F") and I should probably never again try to climb 3000 feet of altitude in just four miles at a brisk pace.  (Testosterone poisoning.)  But I can still pump out 100 of MMM's pushups.  (More poisoning.)

My spouse and I usually choose our travel itineraries with a purpose.  (We don't seem to be able to give ourselves permission to just pack up & go, but we're working on that self-imposed deficiency.)  If there are no mosquitos then she might come along to add to the trip with a few weeks at nearby locations. 

I'll subscribe to this thread.  Let me know what you think I can contribute to the discussion... or at least to the novelty of the ambiance. 
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Longwaytogo on August 13, 2016, 11:50:08 AM
I agree that I would not worry too much about car-less Toronto folk.  If someone can't be troubled to rent a car or car-pool or whatever they likely would not attend an event like this anyway .

Also, who are you trying to attract or do you care? Like local Canadians or a full North American spectrum.  So far in this thread you have a few Canadians, San Francisco, Hawaii, and World traveler.
From what I gather from The Seattle one it's like Half PNW and half all over. (someone who's attended can confirm/correct?)

6. Should we try to lure in Bieber, Drake, or BNL for entertainment?
I'd be thrilled with the likes of ARS!  If we are going to plan this A YEAR in advance, maybe we can coordinate with MMM's yearly sojourn to Ontario.  And be careful not to conflict with any planned Ecuador trips?

I agree getting ARS there would be Awesome! Especially for all the Forum folk who know/converse with him. Nords too. Maybe if you want a known Blogger you could ask an East Coaster like RootofGood, FrugalWoods  or something? Maybe just say it's low cost and see if they would come for a free stay and flight instead of speaking fee? No idea what they have done at the other one.

On the other hand I'm happy to visit new places and sit around talking personal finance over a cup of coffee with interesting people. 

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My favorite part of the CM that I went to was the unstructured time that had everyone together, to just hang out, chat, and learn and enjoy great company.
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+1 to the above! I would guess you'd want some sort of Structure, but I'm sure just the hanging out and meeting like minded folk is a big part of the fun.

I love camping but would guess you'd appeal to more people with a more typical lodging. I thought that Wolfden Bunkhouse you linked looked pretty cool. Any idea on cost?

How would folks feel about CDN Thanksgiving 2017 as a working date - to get a long weekend??? Or is family time too sacred?

I would say most US folk would consider our Thanksgiving Family time too precious and that is an insanely busy/expensive time to fly. But yours in October may be appealing for US folk. Is Weather still mild that time of year? What about Labor day as long weekend, maybe more conducive for canoeing and such?

Maybe you can recruit Jon Snow and we can set up some sort of Kayak vs. Canoe obstacle course for all of our entertainments :)


Anyway, just adding points for you to ponder and trying to answers some of your initial questions.  Full disclosure: No idea if I could/would come, I feel like an Imposter here half the time so may not feel comfortable amongst real Mustachains.  Mostly depends on cost/date but sounds like fun!!
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on August 13, 2016, 08:32:20 PM
Today I went for a VERY.LONG.DRIVE up into cottage country and found myself scoping out little cottage resorts along the way. By the time I got home though, my thoughts had returned to Algonquin, and I find myself tempted to call out and see what their 2017 full rental would run. I've also been eyeballing a few places along the Rideau since that is MMM's stomping grounds.

Target audience: People who are friendly and I can enjoy a drink by a fire with. I hadn't even considered the US vs Canadian takes before folks posted here. In my head this is about lifestyle more than about which tax dodges you can execute. I am not a proficient side-gigging, money amassing allstar here.

ARS would be way awesome. As would Nords and MMM and everyone else. I kinda hope MonsterMonster finds a reason to travel out because I've been following her journal lately and am amazed at her stories. Same with Tardis. And all the other "celebrities in a supporting role" so many great people here. Do we even need breakaway sessions and keynotes?

What is algonquin like in October? Its like this. (http://frosthaus.blogspot.ca/2014/10/when-every-leaf-is-flower.html)

Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: FrugalFan on August 14, 2016, 03:43:19 PM
Definitely interested. Posting to follow.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: PtboEliz on August 14, 2016, 06:17:03 PM
Following too!
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: csr on August 15, 2016, 09:21:04 PM
Interested
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Jschange on August 15, 2016, 10:23:29 PM
I'm interested!

I would like there to be a transit or ride share option. Otherwise my interest wanes. Wolf's den looks gorgeous when I pass by, and is a good medium. They might also be able to accommodate small groups booked individually.

There was a couple that hit the news today with millenial revolution. ARS and family are awesome. Other board personalities are lovely too.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on August 24, 2016, 05:39:53 PM
Did you get all the input you needed? Have you considered Spamming the link to this thread in some other threads, ie:
http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/meetups-and-social-events/anyone-in-toronto/
http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/meetups-and-social-events/anyone-in-hamilton-ontario/
http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/meetups-and-social-events/guelph-ontario/

Something reminded me of this thread, and I was getting excited for the idea of a thanksgiving meetup this year! Don't think we can make it up there quite that fast though :)
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on August 24, 2016, 05:52:04 PM
Thanks for popping this to the top.

I sent a feeler message to MMM but haven't heard back. I suspect that its either too far into the distant future, or that he's just not that into it. Which is cool.

Loads of other stuff going on right now and not feeling rushed to pull together minutae, so for now just monitoring the thread. Feel free to spam though folks - Detroit and Buffalo may want to partake as well.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: KMMK on August 24, 2016, 06:32:49 PM
Following as I may be interested.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on August 25, 2016, 07:49:13 AM
Alright Expat... You got me moving.

I have a price on accommodations near Algonquin. I'm aiming to do this for about $150/head plus food. To get that price, we only have 60 beds including presenters. I am thinking everyone feeds themselves Breakfast & Lunch, then we have a bring-what-you can communal dinner on Saturday.

I/we need to find at least 6 willing presenters who can talk about anything mustache related (or do a workshop/present mad skills/whatever).  At this point I am happy to take requests and recommendations, or have you volunteer a topic you can do. Also, I am a slug who sleeps in and does not do morning cardio. If you are a willing fitness person please let me know and I'll slot you in as cardio/yoga class leader.

If there is interest, Momma and I can do a workshop in food preservation - canning, dehydrating, and pickling. Thoughts anyone???
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: GuitarStv on August 25, 2016, 08:00:18 AM
October may be appealing for US folk. Is Weather still mild that time of year?

October in Algonquin is a little bit cool.  You're probably looking at temperatures in the range of 12 degrees in the day and close to 0 at night (53 - 32).  It has been a warmer than usual summer, not sure if that will stretch into the fall though.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on August 25, 2016, 08:14:28 AM
October may be appealing for US folk. Is Weather still mild that time of year?

October in Algonquin is a little bit cool.  You're probably looking at temperatures in the range of 12 degrees in the day and close to 0 at night (53 - 32).  It has been a warmer than usual summer, not sure if that will stretch into the fall though.

It is also leaf-peeping season. Which means trails can be crowded in the park proper. However, the Hostel/resort that I am booking is on the west border of the park and should be OK.

Also this is all interior accommodations, so you will have a warm bed (no tents) but it may be rustic or in a 'dorm' setting.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: ChipmunkSavings on August 29, 2016, 05:24:32 PM
I'm interested, posting to follow.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: tardis on August 29, 2016, 06:13:18 PM
Following.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: FarmFund on September 18, 2016, 07:58:09 AM
Following! This sounds like fun. I'd love to meet some Ontario people.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on September 22, 2016, 04:29:22 PM
Crazy idea... I have a closing date on my first income property in a town about 2 hours east of Toronto. We call it the Barnhouse.

I get possession of Barnhouse in mid-October. Would there be any interest in a sleepover at Barnhouse while its empty/before I get started on it?

Basically a big empty house without furniture. Folks would need to bring air beds/camp chairs and claim space early. Issues with this plan are that as of this moment there are no appliances (fridge, stove) and that there are only 1.5 bathrooms on a septic system of unknown capacity.

If there is interest/uptake I need to be sure my business partner (Momma - AKA my wife) is hip to my groove.

If this has appeal, let me know.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on September 22, 2016, 04:50:40 PM
Crazy idea...
If this has appeal, let me know.

You had me at crazy idea
Interested, and that might overlap with the times we are up there this fall. If so, I will let you know
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: arebelspy on September 22, 2016, 06:00:54 PM
This is a good time frame for us, though the style might not be--we wouldn't own any of the necessary stuff.

Perhaps if we could rent it, or if others had extras, or if we bought or rented an RV and could park it there?

This definitely sounds more like a meetup (even a multi-day one) than a Camp Mustache type idea, but it still sounds like loads of fun, so we'd do what we could to make it work!
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on September 22, 2016, 06:09:53 PM
This is a good time frame for us, though the style might not be--we wouldn't own any of the necessary stuff.

Perhaps if we could rent it, or if others had extras, or if we bought or rented an RV and could park it there?

This definitely sounds more like a meetup (even a multi-day one) than a Camp Mustache type idea, but it still sounds like loads of fun, so we'd do what we could to make it work!

Yeah - thats why I called it a sleepover. I don't think parking an RV would be an issue. I sent a PM about gear.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Dee on September 22, 2016, 06:43:11 PM
Sounds fun! I'd be interested in a meetup in that location in the next month or so, though I'm not sure I'd be into the communal sleepover aspect but I'd enjoy spending an afternoon and evening. Well, if we can have a campfire, maybe I'd wind up crashing for the night and persuading my spouse to join me.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on September 22, 2016, 06:48:47 PM
Campfire is highly unlikely - too urban.

Just got buy-in from Momma, especially since all these LLs will be able to advise on projects etc.

So its on.

Working Date is Oct. 15.  If you are coming, PM me to reserve indoor/outdoor space and get the address. We can arrange shuttles to the VIA rail station (Lakeshore line from Union Stn Toronto)

Limited RV parking available. Hookups are even less likely.

I'm starting a new thread and will link to it from here...
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Dee_K on September 23, 2016, 07:58:45 AM
Good morning,

I would be interested in being part of CM2017
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: canadian235 on October 11, 2016, 09:35:02 PM
Interested can you PM details pls
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: arebelspy on October 11, 2016, 10:37:51 PM
I would be interested in being part of CM2017

To clarify, CM2017 will still be held be near Seattle, Memorial Day weekend, same as the last three years.

Prospector, maybe call this CMO2017?  :)
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: crystal_dawn on October 17, 2016, 08:26:11 AM
Crazy idea... I have a closing date on my first income property in a town about 2 hours east of Toronto. We call it the Barnhouse.

I get possession of Barnhouse in mid-October. Would there be any interest in a sleepover at Barnhouse while its empty/before I get started on it?

Basically a big empty house without furniture. Folks would need to bring air beds/camp chairs and claim space early. Issues with this plan are that as of this moment there are no appliances (fridge, stove) and that there are only 1.5 bathrooms on a septic system of unknown capacity.

If there is interest/uptake I need to be sure my business partner (Momma - AKA my wife) is hip to my groove.

If this has appeal, let me know.

I'll be in for anything (I made an account because of this thread!) If I were you, I'd request port-a-potty to place some bathrooms around and distribute that cost between everyone.

Otherwise I'll answer your questionnaire:

1. Are you in?

Yes anytime. I can also help with research and/or organizing the event.

2. Where should we do this?

Wolfden looks neat, but it gets pricey considering the drive and we are a three person household (kids are invited, right?) (450 plus food) but we would still be in. Other places can be considered. There is a GO station in Acton and I have a minivan I can transport people to the Scout camp (mentioned above) 6 people at a time.

3. Any planned activities we totally MUST offer?

I just want to hang with people who have similar values to me. Perhaps a workshop in carpentry, but I'm not sure if that's possible if it's really rugged. 

I could run a workshop on children's mental health and benefits for children who engage in a simple lifestyle.

4. How rugged of a camp should this be? (Hotel/resort, Campground, Canoe in, Hike in?)

I'm up for whatever, but if it's in the fall I would like some lodging (not camping)

5. How would you get there? (Should this be on a train/transit corridor?)

I have a van from my home-daycare. We also have a small commuter car and bikes. We live in Acton, ON

6. Should we try to lure in Bieber, Drake, or BNL for entertainment?


Also, I would have attended the Belleville event if I had heard about it before (was it fun?)


Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on October 17, 2016, 12:02:49 PM
Welcome crystal _dawn!

It was fun!

Hopefully we'll see you at the next one!
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: frugalcanuck on October 31, 2016, 09:30:43 PM
I will be following this thread.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 04, 2016, 07:53:12 AM
OK - I've been in touch with a couple resorts and am starting to get a feel for more possibilities. One in the Belleville area is starting to rise up as having potential from both a cost and venue perspective - it would be in cabins sleeping 4-6. Capacity for about 65 ppl. It is convenient for me from an organization perspective since I am in town for my investment property regularly.



I need to put a callout for speakers. I've reached out to a few personalities on the board, but hoping for others. I f you are interested in attending this and feel like you could contribute content in the form of a 60-90 minute (or so) presentation, let me know. Please pass the message around. PM me with a speaking outline if you feel like you can contribute.

Right now I am working on the premise that we have 8 speaking slots, 2 of which are keynotes. (one keynote speaker, plus 4 workshops per day. 2 workshops running consecutively.)



I really like the "rideshare" demands (traffic geek loves to see carpooling). If the event runs east of Toronto, I think it would be a good idea to set up a carpool out of the  Whitby GO station. It's on the Lakeshore line, has good connectivity to the 401, and is easy to navigate. Basically, from Toronto, you would ride the GO to Whitby, Stand at the appointed place and hop a ride to the event. 

Drivers would leave the 401 at Exit 410 (Brock St.) go left at the first light and pick up passengers, turn around in the parking lot and get back on the 401. Easy-peasy. (Check out google maps)

In my head, everyone from the GTA will go past that station regardless of whether they are travelling on train or in a car.



Food is a giant mystery at this point. Diets, preferences, and cooking facilities need to be accommodated and figured out.




One resort I am considering is offering a fleet of (ugh) kayaks for free use, a pontoon boat for rent, and a variety of soft activities (badminton, volleyball, etc.) Does this stuff matter? Or is sitting around a campfire enough?



Expect an announcement and ticket sales once I get a speaking slate lined up. This will be soon if we are going to proceed.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 04, 2016, 12:50:57 PM
I need to put a callout for speakers. I've reached out to a few personalities on the board, but hoping for others. I f you are interested in attending this and feel like you could contribute content in the form of a 60-90 minute (or so) presentation, let me know. Please pass the message around. PM me with a speaking outline if you feel like you can contribute.

I always enjoy the more open discussion/round table/socratic seminar than a "presentation" per se, personally.

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Right now I am working on the premise that we have 8 speaking slots, 2 of which are keynotes. (one keynote speaker, plus 4 workshops per day. 2 workshops running consecutively.)

Running multiple simultaneously is a good idea.  Camp Mustache always has 3 to choose from, so while sometimes you have to make a hard choice of what you'd rather learn about/discuss, there's always something for everyone, since they're quite diverse.  Having one going, that you aren't interested in, is meh--at least two, like you mention, is good.

I don't think you need to line up too much of that too early.  One or two main speakers early is fine, and the rest put out calls once signups are over for people who want to share.  Mustachians are full of knowledge and awesomeness, so you'll likely find people with cool ideas to share/present.

I think the first CM they got Pete and JD Roth to commit, then just whinged the rest of the presentations by coming up with a list of topics, and assuming people would be interested in discussing them (I didn't even know I was "leading" the real estate discussion until the day before, while at the Camp).  So I wouldn't worry too much about trying to get everything lined up perfect for the breakout sessions, IMO--that will all fall into place easily.

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Food is a giant mystery at this point. Diets, preferences, and cooking facilities need to be accommodated and figured out.

So the first year, there was giant cooking facilities.  The organizers brought in a bunch of food, and then a few of them, and their spouses, were stuck cooking the vast majority of the weekend.  The food was delicious, but it was a bummer for those who had to spend so much time on that all the time.  Cooking for 50+, and cleaning, and such, is no small feat.  And while you think people could pitch in, there's only so much room in a kitchen, for both the cooking, and cleaning--washing dishes, for example, takes a long time, and there just isn't room to fit in a lot of people to do it, even if they're willing to help.

The second and third year, we went to an all inclusive camp.  The staff there did all cooking, and cleaning.  This obviously made everything more expensive (IIRC tickets went from roughly 200 or 250 to like 400 or 450), but made the experience way better/easier.  No need to even worry about food at all.

Yes, the tickets then become pricey for some, but you'll still have enough people who want to go, and if you run it at cost, meaning people don't feel like you're making a profit off of them, they'll realize that $450 or whatever for 3 nights + 3 days of food isn't actually that bad.

And then you just show up, sit down at a random table with friends/new strangers, eat, enjoy, walk away, keep chatting, no need to ever worry about any of that stuff.  Next meal, sit at a different table, introduce yourself to new people, and get to know them! I'm normally not a fan of all inclusive, but it made the weekend way better when they switched to that model.

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One resort I am considering is offering a fleet of (ugh) kayaks for free use, a pontoon boat for rent, and a variety of soft activities (badminton, volleyball, etc.) Does this stuff matter? Or is sitting around a campfire enough?

Honestly, we spent so much time chatting, doing the breakout sessions, playing games, etc. that there wouldn't even be much time for these type of activities.  You may go for short walks with people.  They schedule one long hike each time that takes up the bulk of the 3rd day.  The campfire (with smores!) each night is fun, for sure. But I wouldn't worry about a whole bunch of "extra" activities, because people who get up early and go downstairs (or to the central area, or whatever) suddenly have a bunch of interesting people to chat with, they're not going to go out on their own to kayak.

People go to the retreat to meet and hang out with other Mustachians, and while you can do that with other activities, you just... don't.  Cause you're so busy hanging out.  :)

Just my thoughts.  :)
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 05, 2016, 06:13:40 PM
- IMPORTANT NEWS -

Dan Bortolotti of Canadian Couch Potato Fame just emailed me - he is interested in being part of this event and would like to be kept in the loop. Further he is willing to make a presentation. Exciting stuff.

If you aren't already familiar with Dan, check if your library has one of his nine financial books, read his column in Money Sense, or follow his blog www.canadiancouchpotato.com/

In the coming weeks I'll be locking up an event venue and figuring out pricing and ticketing. Watch this space.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: okits on November 05, 2016, 06:52:21 PM
- IMPORTANT NEWS -

Dan Bortolotti of Canadian Couch Potato Fame just emailed me - he is interested in being part of this event and would like to be kept in the loop. Further he is willing to make a presentation. Exciting stuff.

If you aren't already familiar with Dan, check if your library has one of his nine financial books, read his column in Money Sense, or follow his blog www.canadiancouchpotato.com/

In the coming weeks I'll be locking up an event venue and figuring out pricing and ticketing. Watch this space.

*mic drop*

Wow!
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: plainjane on November 05, 2016, 07:33:59 PM
\Dan Bortolotti of Canadian Couch Potato Fame just emailed me - he is interested in being part of this event and would like to be kept in the loop. Further he is willing to make a presentation. Exciting stuff.
[...]In the coming weeks I'll be locking up an event venue and figuring out pricing and ticketing. Watch this space.

Very cool.  And I'm glad that you're thinking about transport for the carless.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on November 06, 2016, 08:17:02 AM
Ditto on the interactive, more informal sessions being better than a scripted presentation. Even with a theme, I find the best segments where unplanned and where everyone could share their knowledge. Maybe with the exception of the tax topics, where it was really interesting to have someone who had really indepth knowledge and was visibly passionate about helping people optimize. In that vein, haven't had experience, but this is this thread/guy who might be of interest to Canadian attendees: http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/taxes/can'eh'dian-tax-you-have-questions-i-have-answers/
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Thegoblinchief on November 07, 2016, 06:32:45 AM
I'm potentially interested and could help lead a session on urban homesteading/gardening/chickens/rabbits but a lot comes down to cost and how soon I'd have to commit the funds. Probably going to be really short on cash until mid-spring. This year has been really expensive so I'm reluctant to make big commitments until we recover a bit.

I'll follow along.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 07, 2016, 06:43:11 AM
Thanks to everyone who's poked in over the weeeknd - We lost internet sometime on Friday night, and I've been operating off my blackberry, which is inconvenient. Now that I have a keyboard in front of me I can be verbose...

My goal this week is to nail down a location. Once we have that, I'll be able to start projecting costs.

ARS - can we retitle this thread to " Camp Mustache Canada - 2017" or similar so that folks don't get the idea that we are exclusive to Ontarians? Then we can take the acronym CMC

Everyone who has reached out to me about speaking roles - or who I have reached out to - thanks a bajillion! This is starting to get interesting. With such a long timeline, we have tonnes of room for flex right now, but I am glad to be able to start forming a vision. I am trying not o be too myopic but I have a hard time of judging fringe topics that are non-finance related. Thrilled to see Goblin Chief is seriously considering the invitation to talk on City-Steading and that ARS is willing to cover off topics as well. I'd LOVE to do a presentation on the societal cost of cars, but I think it might be a bit of a stretch to get into talking about overarching costs like that that many feel are beyond their individual control.

Also, while our financial speakers will reference RRSPs, TFSAs, and RRIFs - that doesn't mean that the context of the presentations will be beyond the US experience. I hope that Americans feel like this will be a worthwhile thing for them to take part in.

That's all for now - thanks again to all who have PMed me with ideas for presentations, or ways to move this forward. I'm excited. Are you excited?
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 07, 2016, 07:11:24 AM
You can always edit the titles of your own threads by editing it in the first post.
Title: Re: Ontario's Own Camp Mustache 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 07, 2016, 07:38:08 AM
You can always edit the titles of your own threads by editing it in the first post.

Duh, I knew that.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalFan on November 07, 2016, 10:18:21 AM
I'm excited! For us, it will depend on timing (we teach a lot in the fall so limited opportunities for time off but around Thanksgiving would probably work), location (how far we have to drive), and venue (we have two very young kids so would only want to share accommodations with each other, to everyone's benefit, believe me). Cost is not a huge issue, and ARS brought up a good point about no one getting stuck with food prep. I'd rather pay a bit more if it means we can focus on enjoying hanging out with each other and learning a ton.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 07, 2016, 11:01:56 AM
Excellent! I'll keep your comments in mind.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on November 07, 2016, 11:26:30 AM
I'm excited!   Will there be rapping?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 07, 2016, 11:29:32 AM
Only if we get AnitaDuck there, and I doubt she can make it.

I am but a mere lyricist. I am no performer.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 16, 2016, 01:41:48 PM
Hey team, I'm giddy and I wanna make an announcement right now. But its too soon. Much too soon. Must wait. But oh so giddy.

OK this is not an announcement.

We may have our venue sewn up... and its not where you think it is.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: powersuitrecall on November 16, 2016, 01:51:10 PM
There is interest here at the PSR family!  Much interest!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on November 16, 2016, 01:54:34 PM
OOOOOoooOOOOoooo.... :D
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 16, 2016, 02:17:36 PM
Non-Canadians welcome?

Looking forward to actual bona fide details.

Thanks for working on this Prosps!

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 16, 2016, 02:35:53 PM
Non-Canadians welcome?

Looking forward to actual bona fide details.

Thanks for working on this Prosps!

Of course Non-Canadians are welcome. I am working to make sure that co-incident sessions are diverse so that there is something the internationals will enjoy even if another presentation is aimed at Canucks.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 16, 2016, 09:23:20 PM
I just got off the phone with Yolfer, who is one of the founders of the original Camp Mustache in Seattle. It sounds like we are completely on track her, and maybe a little bit ahead of schedule.

One big difference though is that there will be a need to pre-book tickets for Camp Mustache Canada. The venue we will be using requires a sizeable deposit in January to hold our dates. To that end, I'll be putting together an event budget, and a ticket site to take deposits to hold spaces. It looks like holds will be about $50CAD, and I am aiming for a total ticket price under $200CAD all inclusive for a three day event.

Watch this space, at half the price of Seattle,  we may book up fast!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 16, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
Wow, geez, that's less than half the price, and that's before the currency conversion!  IDK how you can do all inclusive that cheap, but I'm amazed if you can make it even come close to that.

How many people does the venue fit?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on November 16, 2016, 09:51:36 PM
Can I pre-reserve a spot?  Actually, what I'm really trying to say is please take my money.  And +1 to what ARS said- you've done an amazing job to get the price that low.  I was expecting something closer to double.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 16, 2016, 09:53:03 PM
Wow, geez, that's less than half the price, and that's before the currency conversion!  IDK how you can do all inclusive that cheap, but I'm amazed if you can make it even come close to that.

How many people does the venue fit?

Planning to hold it to 60 this year. There is room for growth if it's desired.

I'm waiting on rates for kids and an alcohol policy before I commit. Beds are 4 to a room (bunk beds) so start thinking about who you want for roomies!

Also by all inclusive, I mean food is supplied, but byob.

One more edit, for those flying in, please consider Buffalo airport. You may find it most convenient if this goes the way I think it's going.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 16, 2016, 09:54:22 PM
Wow, geez, that's less than half the price, and that's before the currency conversion!  IDK how you can do all inclusive that cheap, but I'm amazed if you can make it even come close to that.

How many people does the venue fit?

Planning to hold it to 60 this year. There is room for growth if it's desired.

I'm waiting on rates for kids and an alcohol policy before I commit. Beds are 4 to a room (bunk beds) so start thinking about who you want for roomies!

Dibs on you, ARS, and Snacky as roomies! Good times!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 16, 2016, 10:01:08 PM
Wow, geez, that's less than half the price, and that's before the currency conversion!  IDK how you can do all inclusive that cheap, but I'm amazed if you can make it even come close to that.

How many people does the venue fit?

Planning to hold it to 60 this year. There is room for growth if it's desired.

I'm waiting on rates for kids and an alcohol policy before I commit. Beds are 4 to a room (bunk beds) so start thinking about who you want for roomies!

Dibs on you, ARS, and Snacky as roomies! Good times!

Lol. I'll be sharing with Momma and 2 Boys!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 16, 2016, 10:02:48 PM
Wow, geez, that's less than half the price, and that's before the currency conversion!  IDK how you can do all inclusive that cheap, but I'm amazed if you can make it even come close to that.

How many people does the venue fit?

Planning to hold it to 60 this year. There is room for growth if it's desired.

I'm waiting on rates for kids and an alcohol policy before I commit. Beds are 4 to a room (bunk beds) so start thinking about who you want for roomies!

Dibs on you, ARS, and Snacky as roomies! Good times!

Lol. I'll be sharing with Momma and 2 Boys!

Adjoining rooms (or a basket with car keys - wink, wink /jk)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 16, 2016, 10:06:05 PM
Anyone in my room will have to put up with an 18 month old. That's no fun.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 16, 2016, 10:09:44 PM
Anyone in my room will have to put up with an 18 month old. That's no fun.

Not as bad when they are not yours....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 16, 2016, 10:33:28 PM
Anyone in my room will have to put up with an 18 month old. That's no fun.

We should share! We'll bring cots for the boys. Dads get the bottom bunks, moms get the top!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 16, 2016, 10:51:42 PM
If the buffalo airport is closer, it might also be easier for me to bus/train/bus my way there. Anything out to Niagara has at least a little transportation! And is semi bikeable

Carpool will run from Aldershot GO - that's my last hint on location.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Jschange on November 16, 2016, 11:02:57 PM
Yay! I vote that we do a car-free pre-meetup in the accessibility coach located in the centre of the train. I will bring treats and we can make a secret handshake
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 16, 2016, 11:11:54 PM
Ooh.  Watching this space for details.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 16, 2016, 11:50:14 PM
Wow, geez, that's less than half the price, and that's before the currency conversion!  IDK how you can do all inclusive that cheap, but I'm amazed if you can make it even come close to that.

How many people does the venue fit?

Planning to hold it to 60 this year. There is room for growth if it's desired.

I'm waiting on rates for kids and an alcohol policy before I commit. Beds are 4 to a room (bunk beds) so start thinking about who you want for roomies!

Dibs on you, ARS, and Snacky as roomies! Good times!

This is very flattering, but I live far away. I'm extremely unlikely to attend. I suck.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on November 17, 2016, 01:16:28 AM
Wow, geez, that's less than half the price, and that's before the currency conversion!  IDK how you can do all inclusive that cheap, but I'm amazed if you can make it even come close to that.

How many people does the venue fit?

Planning to hold it to 60 this year. There is room for growth if it's desired.

I'm waiting on rates for kids and an alcohol policy before I commit. Beds are 4 to a room (bunk beds) so start thinking about who you want for roomies!

Dibs on you, ARS, and Snacky as roomies! Good times!

This is very flattering, but I live far away. I'm extremely unlikely to attend. I suck.

Technology will save the day! We can run a livestream of you (but more importantly, the dogs) sleeping.  Well, awake too, but I was thinking of sharing cabins.  Anywhooo... yeah.  Skype?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 17, 2016, 01:25:01 AM
Wow, geez, that's less than half the price, and that's before the currency conversion!  IDK how you can do all inclusive that cheap, but I'm amazed if you can make it even come close to that.

How many people does the venue fit?

Planning to hold it to 60 this year. There is room for growth if it's desired.

I'm waiting on rates for kids and an alcohol policy before I commit. Beds are 4 to a room (bunk beds) so start thinking about who you want for roomies!

Dibs on you, ARS, and Snacky as roomies! Good times!

This is very flattering, but I live far away. I'm extremely unlikely to attend. I suck.

Technology will save the day! We can run a livestream of you (but more importantly, the dogs) sleeping.  Well, awake too, but I was thinking of sharing cabins.  Anywhooo... yeah.  Skype?

I will make a big portrait of the dogs and i asleep, which you can set up near each gathering and it will be exactly like i'm there!
Or skype. You know. Whatever works.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 17, 2016, 03:48:08 AM
This is very flattering, but I live far away. I'm extremely unlikely to attend. I suck.

If distance is your reservation, you have 11 months to figure out travel hacking to attend for free!  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 17, 2016, 06:08:17 AM
Also i'd need to find a kennel that takes dogs and kids both and have to be well enough to leave my bed for literally days at a time. I'm staying here.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 17, 2016, 06:10:11 AM
Also i'd need to find a kennel that takes dogs and kids both and have to be well enough to leave my bed for literally days at a time. I'm staying here.

We will partake of an evening snack in your honour. Maybe "Snacky Smores" or something similar.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 17, 2016, 06:20:51 AM
I approve.

The dogs and I will have a camp mustache satellite meeting when the time comes. So affordable!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 17, 2016, 06:28:35 AM
One resounding theme I am gettin gin the feedback loop is "Is this going to have content for Americans?"

Since our (tentative) venue is a mere 1.5 hours from the border, and more than half of the attendees at CM travelled a lot further than a couple hours, we better! Canada is just the venue, it is not the content. I am aiming to make this as cross-border friendly as I can.

To that end, I would LOVE to see a tax session with knowledgeable folks (not me) from both countries pinging questions so we can see the advantages of investing/taxes/business strategies on both sides of the border, and the different hurdles we face. It would be a fun session to have the same question asked of a Canadian and American accountant/businessperson/lawyer/whatever and see how different or alike the answers are.

In short - if your flag doesn't have a maple leaf on it, don't write off this event! There will still be plenty of content, and loads of great people to meet.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 17, 2016, 06:34:03 AM
Honestly, the breakout sessions are fun, but they're like .1% of the reason I go to Camp Mustache events.

Even if it was all Canadian content sessions, I'd be going, for the hangout time the rest of the weekend.

(Though FWIW, I think a "tax comparison" thing sounds more fun than it'll work in real life, because you'll spend so much time on that part, it'll be hard to fit content in both--I think separate US/tax sessions would be good, if you do tax.  You could also do a survey once people sign up to see what topics generate the most interest--have content sessions on there that are generic and apply to both, and country-specific content sessions, and let people choose which they're interested in, to see if you should have some content specific stuff.)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 17, 2016, 06:38:39 AM
Honestly, the breakout sessions are fun, but they're like .1% of the reason I go to Camp Mustache events.

Even if it was all Canadian content sessions, I'd be going, for the hangout time the rest of the weekend.

(Though FWIW, I think a "tax comparison" thing sounds more fun than it'll work in real life, because you'll spend so much time on that part, it'll be hard to fit content in both--I think separate US/tax sessions would be good, if you do tax.  You could also do a survey once people sign up to see what topics generate the most interest--have content sessions on there that are generic and apply to both, and country-specific content sessions, and let people choose which they're interested in, to see if you should have some content specific stuff.)

We see through a similar lens! A good workshop is one that gets people talking! Your thoughts match mine quite closely.

Other important considerations... Do we do summit-series hockey game on day one, or a crokinole tournament?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 17, 2016, 06:51:33 AM
Teach the Americans curling.

Film your efforts.

For... Science. Yes.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 17, 2016, 09:19:17 AM
Anyone in my room will have to put up with an 18 month old. That's no fun.

We should share! We'll bring cots for the boys. Dads get the bottom bunks, moms get the top!

Hmm, your both bottoms.... glad I could facilitate your bromance...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on November 17, 2016, 09:51:59 AM
This surely sounds interesting. I just signed up in the FIRE in 2017 thread so I may be available. But put me in the "very suspect" category as I really am not sure yet. I wouldn't want to take a spot from anyone else.

I have some miles to use on Southwest, but Southwest doesn't fly to Canada...eh? Looks like Buffalo is close to Toronto. Maybe I can share a ride with someone leaving from Buffalo.

I'm fine with a bunk.

Canada is cheap for us US people.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 17, 2016, 10:54:55 AM
Buffalo really is an option worth looking into both for travelling on points and for price in general. Competition is fierce between The airports, and with different carriers flying into each, you will get different array of prices. No telling which of the two will be cheaper. Transit between Buffalo and CMC is a different animal though. It would be hard to arrange.

There are a number of airport car services that make the trip, but renting a car (on points???) will likely be cheaper/easier. You should bring your  passport either way. One warning though - if you rent a car and you see an on-ramp to Highway 407ETR, stay away. Rental companies charge huge administration fees on top of the already high tolls on our only area toll highway. Generally the rental companies tack it onto the credit card taken for a deposit and say nothing.

I have no idea how much you would pay for a 90 minute Uber trip with a cross-border destination.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 17, 2016, 11:54:22 AM
Our dates are now locked in and our venue is semi-secured.

Friday October 20 - 22, 2017

The venue is in the Brantford Ontario area and will be revealed only to ticket holders. I was forced to push our date a little later in the month due to competition for the venue.

Hopefully this will help with folks who need a long range plan in order to attend. Watch for ticket pre-sales to begin very soon.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 17, 2016, 12:00:42 PM
If I get a ticket, I am driving. If I am driving I may be able to pick up one or two folks along the way.

Des Moines to CA...... 13 hours (not counting time at border crossing)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalFan on November 17, 2016, 12:25:28 PM
I think we could make this work! Excited to hear more details as they become available!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 17, 2016, 12:26:49 PM
Teach the Americans curling.

Film your efforts.

For... Science. Yes.

I am a BIG fan of curling. So there.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 17, 2016, 12:34:47 PM
If I get a ticket, I am driving. If I am driving I may be able to pick up one or two folks along the way.

Des Moines to CA...... 13 hours (not counting time at border crossing)

You're driving to California to bring people back to Ontario? You crazy Americans!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 17, 2016, 01:00:21 PM
If I get a ticket, I am driving. If I am driving I may be able to pick up one or two folks along the way.

Des Moines to CA...... 13 hours (not counting time at border crossing)

You're driving to California to bring people back to Ontario? You crazy Americans!

WIPO country code - not tunnel-vision US-centric acronym.....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 17, 2016, 01:13:59 PM
More important news...

Ontario has liquor laws that have only barely been changed since prohibition. By barely, I mean, you're allowed to drink here, but not much else.

If liquor is served at a function it must be decanted by a smart-serve certified bartender, and the organizer of the function (me) has to buy a liquor license. I'm too cheap to buy a liquor license, and I'm sure not hiring a bartender.

Luckily for us, this facility recognizes that some patrons may choose to drink, and that a bartender is a ripoff. If you are drinking, for the 3 seconds you sip your beer/schnapps/whatever you must transport yourself in Dr. Who-like fashion forward in time to where Ontario actually has modern alcohol laws, drink your beer, then transport yourself back to the present. Or you know, be discrete and well behaved, and the facility will turn a blind eye.

No alcohol will be sold at the event, and you will have to bring your own. Drinking age in Ontario is... I forget. Is it 19? I haven't had to worry about this for a long time.

If you are coming up from Amerika, get your alcohol at the duty free shop at the border, our stores here can be hard to find. They look like this and are government run:

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Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 17, 2016, 01:21:18 PM
Can American bought beer or hard liquor be brought over the border? I am sure there is a limit....
I suppose I could use Google....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 17, 2016, 01:26:00 PM


Thank you Google my old friend
I've come to talk you again.
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/ivc-rnc-eng.html (http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/ivc-rnc-eng.html)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 17, 2016, 03:07:09 PM
I was originally going to book us in on Friday the 13th... that didn't work out. If it had, a side trip to Dover one evening would have been a "for sure" outing!

You left out the Woodland Cultural Centre and the longhouse. That would be kickass for a sleepover!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 17, 2016, 03:10:56 PM
I was originally going to book us in on Friday the 13th... that didn't work out. If it had, a side trip to Dover one evening would have been a "for sure" outing!

The motorcycle rally every Friday the 13th!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 06:33:48 AM
Friends who dwell south of the greatest nation on earth, this great land where the maple syrup flows free and beavers roam wild; can you tell me if email money transfers work down there - or if they work cross-border? I am vastly ignorant on this.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 18, 2016, 06:35:49 AM
Friends who dwell south of the greatest nation on earth, this great land where the maple syrup flows free and beavers roam wild; can you tell me if email money transfers work down there - or if they work cross-border? I am vastly ignorant on this.

Hmm, I am not even sure I've ever used one. I can try to do a little Google-fu, but it will all be academic...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 18, 2016, 06:36:46 AM
Paypall is definitely a thing. I have paypalled americans.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 06:38:39 AM
Snackster - paypal requires a commercial account or takes 3%, and charges a premium on currency conversion. That could really add up on this.

G-Dog - wanna be the first to reserve a spot at CMC 2016? I'll PM you if you are a willing guinea pig. I also wonder if email transfers are bank-specific in the US. It seems to me that you guys have multiple systems that don't all play nice with each other and that is why interac took longer to catch on down there.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Prairie Gal on November 18, 2016, 06:42:29 AM
Are there any private rooms available? You know, for introverts (that may or may not snore)?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 18, 2016, 06:45:21 AM
Friends who dwell south of the greatest nation on earth

I haven't seen a ton of Mustachians from Mexico on the forums.  Lady in Baja may be able to help.

For tickets, have you looked into the site CM uses?  Brown Paper Tickets, or something like that?  I'm sure they charge a fee, but they take credit cards and handle all of that stuff.  I think you'll just have to include the fact that fees will cost money too, into the ticket price.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 06:46:11 AM
Are there any private rooms available? You know, for introverts (that may or may not snore)?

Sadly, no - at least not that I am aware of. But you can pick roomies and I will do my best to keep you together. It is 4 to a room. (unless we get a non-divisible by 4 number of people, then there would be a room or two with less than 4 people in it)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 06:53:14 AM
Friends who dwell south of the greatest nation on earth

I haven't seen a ton of Mustachians from Mexico on the forums.  Lady in Baja may be able to help.

For tickets, have you looked into the site CM uses?  Brown Paper Tickets, or something like that?  I'm sure they charge a fee, but they take credit cards and handle all of that stuff.  I think you'll just have to include the fact that fees will cost money too, into the ticket price.

I have looked at a few different ticketing sites, but for the scope of this, I think a simple spreadsheet will be fine. One of the challenges with these sites that CM doesn't face is that in preselling, I am setting a select group of people who will be able to pay for the "part 2" of the tickets - most of those sites have no mechanism to do that. I can PM you details, but I think you can already see the issue with a 2-piece sale like this. I have yet to find a platform that does this elegantly. OTOH, on a group of only 50-60 attendees (which really means something like 30 sales once you include spouses) I should be able to manage a list in a simple spreadsheet.

Also, populating the spreadsheet will give me the ability to assign rooms/keep friends together which in turn simplifies the bunk assignment at the tail end. Apparently bunk assignments can get messy really fast.  I'd rather have folks do it themselves and save me the headache.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 18, 2016, 06:58:48 AM
Snackster - paypal requires a commercial account or takes 3%, and charges a premium on currency conversion. That could really add up on this.

G-Dog - wanna be the first to reserve a spot at CMC 2016? I'll PM you if you are a willing guinea pig. I also wonder if email transfers are bank-specific in the US. It seems to me that you guys have multiple systems that don't all play nice with each other and that is why interac took longer to catch on down there.

Sure thing. You have my direct email too (bar house poster).
 My crappy Google search so far has only revealed that PayPal not only nails you on fees, but also on currency exchange. Others also tack on fees and/or payment processing seems excessively slow in Canada - long hold times. I have a couple of bank accounts, and can talk to each, I also have online banking, checks (cheques), as well as cold hard cash and stamps!
Could the deposits be made directly to the venue, which likely already accepts credit cards?
Could you get set up as an Amazon seller for free, and we could pay via Amazon?

Why is this so hard?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on November 18, 2016, 07:01:01 AM
can you tell me if email money transfers work down there - or if they work cross-border? I am vastly ignorant on this.

Interact money transfers? Probably would be tricky for USA'ians, no simple way to make it work I'd bet.

This question (http://www.interac.ca/en/faq.html#faq_138) from their FAQ seems to indicate same:
"Currently the Interac e-Transfer service is only available to those who bank at a Canadian financial institution and have a Canadian currency account. You will not be able to deposit your Interac e-Transfer to a foreign bank account. If you have received an Interac e-Transfer and you do not have a Canadian bank account, ask your sender to cancel the transfer. Once the transfer is cancelled, the funds will be returned to the sender's account. If you are unable to contact your sender, the transfer will expire in approximately 30 days. Once the transfer expires, the sender will receive a notification to reclaim the funds."
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 18, 2016, 07:10:53 AM
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Why is this so hard?

A lot to reasons, but primarily liability and cost, in three distinct ways:
1) Fraud risk.  Both the idea of a hacked account (someone paying for something using someone else's account/info/etc.), and the idea of someone paying legitimately, but disputing it.  Getting hit with fraud costs them money, adding barriers to stop it costs money and resources, and they could be liable if it's not handled correctly.

2) Government requirements.  Post war on drugs, lots of banking requirements around tracking money to stop money laundering; post 9-11, same thing, but to stop terrorism.  Staying compliant with this costs money, and being incompliant risks liability.

3) Security.  When dealing with people's financial data (CC info, bank accounts), keeping it secure costs money and resources, and exposes them to liability if they don't handle it correctly.

Any of those three things can make the payment entity liable for various issues and pushes their costs up.  Thus they need to charge enough to not only cover all normal business operations (customer service, IT, etc.) but also deal with these issues, exacerbated due to the potential amount of money being dealt with regularly.

Thus there's very few players, and they're somewhat expensive.  Honestly, it's interesting that they don't cost more, with more hoops.

Anyways, hope that helps explain.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
At this point my best solution is to find a volunteer stateside who can act as a collection point for American banking. That volunteer could send me a single "gift" via paypal of all monies collected from US attendees. This will dodge paypal fees. once we have our beds filled, the volunteer would go silent until we were ready to accept payment in full.

I am guessing that the American volunteer would be familiar with american banking and could find a way to get timestamped reservations into some sort of a holding account.

Paper cheques are my last resort. They would work well and could be deposited with a simple cell phone app. The issue with them is that if I get a call for 65 beds, and the last 7 come in the same mail packet, how do I (fairly) judge who gets the last spot?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 18, 2016, 07:26:39 AM
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Why is this so hard?

A lot to reasons, but primarily liability and cost, in three distinct ways:
1) Fraud risk.  Both the idea of a hacked account (someone paying for something using someone else's account/info/etc.), and the idea of someone paying legitimately, but disputing it.  Getting hit with fraud costs them money, adding barriers to stop it costs money and resources, and they could be liable if it's not handled correctly.

2) Government requirements.  Post war on drugs, lots of banking requirements around tracking money to stop money laundering; post 9-11, same thing, but to stop terrorism.  Staying compliant with this costs money, and being incompliant risks liability.

3) Security.  When dealing with people's financial data (CC info, bank accounts), keeping it secure costs money and resources, and exposes them to liability if they don't handle it correctly.

Any of those three things can make the payment entity liable for various issues and pushes their costs up.  Thus they need to charge enough to not only cover all normal business operations (customer service, IT, etc.) but also deal with these issues, exacerbated due to the potential amount of money being dealt with regularly.

Thus there's very few players, and they're somewhat expensive.  Honestly, it's interesting that they don't cost more, with more hoops.

Anyways, hope that helps explain.  :)

I wasn't actually expecting an answer ;), but thanks.

I guess I just feel like it's stupid hard because no authority cares to make it more straightforward - no reward for them as we remain on the hook no matter what. Couple with US financial security efforts for individuals (confidentiality, fraud, privacy, security - all of it) being an absolute fucking joke - yeah, bite me! But then there's money laundering, terrorism, other fraud ......
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 07:46:57 AM
Because I've never sent a Nigerian prince cash... how much does it cost to do a WU money transfer? Are they expensive? I know they work internationally*

*see Nigerian Prince comment
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 18, 2016, 08:04:14 AM
Are there any private rooms available? You know, for introverts (that may or may not snore)?

Sadly, no - at least not that I am aware of. But you can pick roomies and I will do my best to keep you together. It is 4 to a room. (unless we get a non-divisible by 4 number of people, then there would be a room or two with less than 4 people in it)

I would sign up to share in the Introverts Who May or May Not Snore room! 

Prospector - I was just about to suggest a second organizer in the U.S. who could collect the American deposits then transfer to you. 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 08:06:03 AM
Thanks Okits! - Great Minds etc.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 08:31:27 AM
can you tell me if email money transfers work down there - or if they work cross-border? I am vastly ignorant on this.

Interact money transfers? Probably would be tricky for USA'ians, no simple way to make it work I'd bet.

This question (http://www.interac.ca/en/faq.html#faq_138) from their FAQ seems to indicate same:
"Currently the Interac e-Transfer service is only available to those who bank at a Canadian financial institution and have a Canadian currency account. You will not be able to deposit your Interac e-Transfer to a foreign bank account. If you have received an Interac e-Transfer and you do not have a Canadian bank account, ask your sender to cancel the transfer. Once the transfer is cancelled, the funds will be returned to the sender's account. If you are unable to contact your sender, the transfer will expire in approximately 30 days. Once the transfer expires, the sender will receive a notification to reclaim the funds."

PayPal also has an email money transfer, which is tricky to decipher fees on.

From their website:

Free money transfer.
It’s free to send money to friends or family in Canada using your PayPal balance or bank account. When you use a credit card or a Visa Debit card, there is a flat fee of 2.9% plus $0.30 per transaction. You can also send money online internationally for a small fee.

So its free to send money, except that there might be a fee if your account draws from a CC. If you have a balance in your PP account, I guess it is free. But that's all on the sender's side, so the event would not be affected by it.

On my end though...

That’s a small price to pay for accepting all forms of payments from over 192 million customers worldwide. There are no hidden fees. You don’t pay anything until you get paid for your sale. The more you sell, the less you pay.

Sales within Canada:2.2% to 2.9% + $0.30 CAD per transaction
Sales to the US:2.7% to 3.7% transaction fee + fixed fee (based on currency received)*

Since the total budget on this is about $12,000 (=60*200), we would be looking at paypal fees in the order of $400-$500. I think we can be smarter than that. If we get a US Mustachian, they can mail me one cheque/money order/traveller's cheque/bank draft with all the American fees on it and we can deposit it for free. Easy peasy.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RamonaQ on November 18, 2016, 08:36:54 AM
Hmm, this is only about 3.5 hours from Detroit, which would be totally driveable.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 18, 2016, 08:40:23 AM
Just do paypal.  It's easiest.

You can set, when making the payment, to make sure the recipient receives $XXX in whatever currency amount you want, and for you to pay the fees.

So I could select "Prospector, receive $X (ticket cost) CAD, I pay fees" and it'd calculate the USD cost off of that, and you'd receive the full CAD amount.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on November 18, 2016, 08:54:24 AM
Just do paypal.  It's easiest.
And it comes with a bed pan and catheter!

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 09:04:06 AM
Hmm, this is only about 3.5 hours from Detroit, which would be totally driveable.

TOTALLY! And you can hitch a ride with G-Dog since its on his way!! Carpooling FTW!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 18, 2016, 09:12:30 AM
So far south!  Should be tropical in October (well, tropical by Ottawa standards).  Good excuse to visit with DD before and after, no way I'm doing that drive all at once!  But tentatively* I am in. 


*Only problem is if my house is slow to sell and I have house stuff that weekend.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 18, 2016, 09:25:29 AM
Hmm, this is only about 3.5 hours from Detroit, which would be totally driveable.

TOTALLY! And you can hitch a ride with G-Dog since its on her his way!! Carpooling FTW!

FTFY
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 09:49:02 AM
Hmm, this is only about 3.5 hours from Detroit, which would be totally driveable.

TOTALLY! And you can hitch a ride with G-Dog since its on her his way!! Carpooling FTW!

FTFY

Sorry about that. Related: Main reason for holding this event... to reduce the number of gender reversals I have on here.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on November 18, 2016, 09:53:51 AM
I doubt I can go, but it sounds SO cool. I just want to follow along.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 18, 2016, 09:54:55 AM
Hmm, this is only about 3.5 hours from Detroit, which would be totally driveable.

TOTALLY! And you can hitch a ride with G-Dog since its on her his way!! Carpooling FTW!

FTFY

Sorry about that. Related: Main reason for holding this event... to reduce the number of gender reversals I have on here.

I am in no way offended - just wish my employers had paid me on that scale! I've purposefully posted, particularly, early on, as gender neutral as possible. Interesting to see some folks posts and assumptions and biases exposed. 

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on November 18, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
I'm very interested in this.  Flights from DCA to YTO are currently running 250 USD for that weekend.  I'm not particularly keen on the alternate 9-hour drive or 18-hour megabus ride.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on November 18, 2016, 11:55:53 AM
Just do paypal.  It's easiest.

You can set, when making the payment, to make sure the recipient receives $XXX in whatever currency amount you want, and for you to pay the fees.

So I could select "Prospector, receive $X (ticket cost) CAD, I pay fees" and it'd calculate the USD cost off of that, and you'd receive the full CAD amount.

+1. Simpler=better in situations like this, even if it costs a little more.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 12:08:51 PM
Think I've found the easiest way - and it looks like it will be using Seattle's template...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 12:29:21 PM
Seeing the FB talk on CM (Seattle) - I have created a closed FB group for this event that ticket buyers only will be invited to join. It is not a requirement that you join the group. If you buy a ticket, there will be a radio button asking if you would like to be added to the FB group. If you tick "yes" I will add you using a) the name you buy the ticket under, or b) the email you use to buy the ticket.

If I can't find you, I will send an email explaining that I can't find you. FB is not a strength.

Right now its just me and Momma in the FB group. It is lonely. To be clear though - I intend to announce every minute fucking detail OMG Prospector would you shut up already!! all the important things here.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on November 18, 2016, 01:11:15 PM
Did I miss something?   Can you buy tickets yet?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 01:13:09 PM
Reservations aren't live yet. I'll post here when it happens. (According to the ticketing site that happens on average in one day, nine hours, and 2 minutes.)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 02:35:36 PM
I'm very interested in this.  Flights from DCA to YTO are currently running 250 USD for that weekend.  I'm not particularly keen on the alternate 9-hour drive or 18-hour megabus ride.

If you fly in, try to arrange with others to form a carpool.

There is a transit connection from each Toronto airport to Union Station (downtown Toronto)

http://www.gotransit.com/timetables/en/schedules/maps.aspx#

From Union Station you would catch the Lakeshore West (GO) train to Aldershot Station. As the event approaches we will organize a carpool between Aldershot GO station and the venue. Alternatively, if folks are flying in at about the same time, carpooling from Pearson may be more convenient than going south to make a trip west.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 18, 2016, 04:44:58 PM
Fun fact: The Hamilton airport often has cheaper flights than the Toronto airport, and is near there.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 18, 2016, 04:48:30 PM
Read the latest posts on the CM2016 thread (yes, last year's) in the meetup section for several reasons from several people why Facebook isn't ideal.

CM only added Facebook this last year (the 3rd year) and it was never required to sign up for the event.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 05:04:12 PM
Read the latest posts on the CM2016 thread (yes, last year's) in the meetup section for several reasons from several people why Facebook isn't ideal.

CM only added Facebook this last year (the 3rd year) and it was never required to sign up for the event.

Totally agree. But it is a thing people seem to like. Personally I am ambivalent. I'll set up the group but only rarely stop by.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 18, 2016, 05:30:10 PM
Read the latest posts on the CM2016 thread (yes, last year's) in the meetup section for several reasons from several people why Facebook isn't ideal.

CM only added Facebook this last year (the 3rd year) and it was never required to sign up for the event.

Totally agree. But it is a thing people seem to like. Personally I am ambivalent. I'll set up the group but only rarely stop by.

Did you read the posts? Some like it, yes, others are ambivalent, like you or I, and others actively dislike it (people who don't have FB, people who want privacy, etc.).  Excluding the latter group is a bummer, IMO.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 18, 2016, 07:54:17 PM
I just read the last 3 or 4 posts. Missed the negative feedback.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Jschange on November 18, 2016, 08:21:28 PM
Dear Mr. Nigerian Prince Prospector

I am wanting to come to this camp. What is the fee and to where do I email money transfer it?

I am also an introvert who snores, if you're putting us all together.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: lostamonkey on November 18, 2016, 08:52:23 PM
This sounds like a lot of fun. And the price is pretty good for 3 days with food. Unfortunately I can't commit so far ahead of time but if they are tickets available last minute then I might decide to make the trip.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 18, 2016, 09:04:06 PM
Hmm, this is only about 3.5 hours from Detroit, which would be totally driveable.

TOTALLY! And you can hitch a ride with G-Dog since its on her his way!! Carpooling FTW!

FTFY

Sorry about that. Related: Main reason for holding this event... to reduce the number of gender reversals I have on here.

I am in no way offended - just wish my employers had paid me on that scale! I've purposefully posted, particularly, early on, as gender neutral as possible. Interesting to see some folks posts and assumptions and biases exposed.

Join the club - I tried for gender-neutral posts early on as well, and got a lot of mid-identifications.  Even though the polls show we are about 50/50, there are a lot of assumptions.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 18, 2016, 09:09:14 PM
Teach the Americans curling.

Film your efforts.

For... Science. Yes.

If we do this I will bring my shoes, slider and broom.  Anyone got a push stick?  It is too soon for outdoor ice, but is there a local club that would let us have an hour on the ice?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 18, 2016, 09:12:46 PM
Can you tell I'm in?  Lower bunk please, for my aged knees and hip joints.  Introvert room please (ladies only, I am old fashioned).  I don't think I snore, but Missy is quiet on that topic.  Be glad I am not bringing her, she snores.

How many bottles of low-carb homemade Bailey's should I bring?  Or one low-carb and one regular?  And wine?  We need to know the menu so we can plan accordingly?

I don't do the Book of Faces, so please keep being nicely detailed here.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on November 18, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
Want to be roomies R63?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 19, 2016, 05:46:13 AM
Sounds good. Do we both get lower bunks, plan to whisper to each other after lights out, and fall asleep 3 seconds after we go to bed?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 19, 2016, 06:30:51 AM
Find two more like minded individuals, and we'll have the lady's lounge. Bring scentsy candles and tasteful decor accents.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 19, 2016, 07:04:13 AM
I'll gladly room with Retired@63and Tardi - if they'll have me!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 19, 2016, 07:15:19 AM
I'll gladly room with Retired@63and Tardi - if they'll have me!

And G-Dog makes 3!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 19, 2016, 07:19:08 AM
I'll gladly room with Retired@63and Tardi - if they'll have me!

And G-Dog makes 3!

Maybe we can get MJ to commit!

I may snore, I will be covered in dog hair (from my two dogs) - it may be just like having Missy with you!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 19, 2016, 07:22:04 AM
Find two more like minded individuals, and we'll have the lady's lounge. Bring scentsy candles and tasteful decor accents.

No scentsy candles for me.  If the leaves are turning we can have little bouquets of red and orange maple leaves.  Are the rooms large enough we can bring a camp chair for quiet introvert retreat time?

Hmm, thinking about quiet introvert retreat time - I am bringing my spinning wheel and spindle.  When stressed, spin.  Get into the zen moment.  Of course spinning when not stressed is also good.  Also bringing knitting.  And maybe my demo spindle and fibre?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 19, 2016, 07:25:31 AM
Find two more like minded individuals, and we'll have the lady's lounge. Bring scentsy candles and tasteful decor accents.

No scentsy candles for me.  If the leaves are turning we can have little bouquets of red and orange maple leaves.  Are the rooms large enough we can bring a camp chair for quiet introvert retreat time?

Hmm, thinking about quiet introvert retreat time - I am bringing my spinning wheel and spindle.  When stressed, spin.  Get into the zen moment.  Of course spinning when not stressed is also good.  Also bringing knitting.  And maybe my demo spindle and fibre?

Will need a spinning demo! I used to do a lot of crafts, but that all fell away as work became more consuming and other hobbies (sports) took their place. Can be kind of pricy though. I know there are boxes with partially finished projects .... Somewhere.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 19, 2016, 07:40:53 AM
I'll gladly room with Retired@63and Tardi - if they'll have me!

And G-Dog makes 3!

Maybe we can get MJ to commit!

I may snore, I will be covered in dog hair (from my two dogs) - it may be just like having Missy with you!

There is our decor theme - dog pictures.  Cat pictures are welcome too.  And then we can bore MJ talking about our pets.  ;-)

Spinning demos, sure.  When we show kids we have them spin a yarn and then make them bracelets from it - fun times.  How many bracelets will be made/worn by the end of camp?

Hey Prospector, I don't know what kinds of activities you have planned, but maybe some crafty breakout sessions?  I can talk/demo spinning, dyeing (the colour kind, not the dead kind) and toe up socks on magic loop with Fleegle heel.  Or they can just be casual happenings.  I just need a heads-up to bring extra fiber if this is going to be a thing. 

I know the 2 (wonderful) meetups I have been to, there was relatively little money talk, so much other stuff to talk about.  Of course the point of Mustachianism is to behave well with money so you can have the life you want and need, not what society tells you that you should want and need.  So maybe we tend to do a bit more thinking about what we want out of our lives? and then enjoy talking about it with like-minded people? Can you tell from this rambling that I haven't had my coffee yet?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 19, 2016, 08:18:05 AM
Ticketing update... no update. The Ticketing website lists our event as "pending approval"

Since I'm at the barnhouse this weekend, I couldn't really act on anything even if tickets were released. Expect to see prebooking open up on Monday at some point. 

G-dog, you are still my Guinea pig. As soon as the site opens up, I'll ping you to be the first customer.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 19, 2016, 08:46:49 AM
How is it going to work for Canadians? Same ticket site?

Seriously, if you have a form to fill out I can do that and just mail a cheque.  Or drop it off on the way to TO for Christmas.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on November 19, 2016, 08:48:04 AM
I'm a female, balanced introvert/extrovert, deep sleeper that doesn't hear snorers, may be a snorer myself  (don't believe what people tell me), and can make it to a top bunk.

But I'm not sure yet if I am going...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 19, 2016, 08:48:50 AM
Same site. All sales will be in $CAD
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on November 19, 2016, 12:59:31 PM
No scentsy candles for me.  If the leaves are turning we can have little bouquets of red and orange maple leaves.  Are the rooms large enough we can bring a camp chair for quiet introvert retreat time?

Hmm, thinking about quiet introvert retreat time - I am bringing my spinning wheel and spindle.  When stressed, spin.  Get into the zen moment.  Of course spinning when not stressed is also good.  Also bringing knitting.  And maybe my demo spindle and fibre?

Yesssss!  Craft cabin ftw.  I'd love a spinning demo.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on November 19, 2016, 01:38:00 PM
I'll gladly room with Retired@63and Tardi - if they'll have me!

And G-Dog makes 3!

Maybe we can get MJ to commit!

I may snore, I will be covered in dog hair (from my two dogs) - it may be just like having Missy with you!

There is our decor theme - dog pictures.  Cat pictures are welcome too.  And then we can bore MJ talking about our pets.  ;-)

You don't know me very well if you think I can be bored by pet conversations, as long as there are photos involved. And there are always photos involved.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 19, 2016, 01:43:17 PM
I'll gladly room with Retired@63and Tardi - if they'll have me!

And G-Dog makes 3!

Maybe we can get MJ to commit!

I may snore, I will be covered in dog hair (from my two dogs) - it may be just like having Missy with you!

There is our decor theme - dog pictures.  Cat pictures are welcome too.  And then we can bore MJ talking about our pets.  ;-)

You don't know me very well if you think I can be bored by pet conversations, as long as there are photos involved. And there are always photos involved.

And sometimes video ;)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FIFoFum on November 19, 2016, 02:05:51 PM
I will probably pre-order, even though I have no idea if I'll actually be available to go. I'd like to and create an east coast trip out of it, but I realize that a lot of things can get in the way of aspirations. I'm sure there is a corresponding person who will want to go closer to last minute and not have booked in advance.

I am ok sharing rooms with people of any gender, and I can probably out-puppy picture anyone! :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 19, 2016, 02:55:34 PM
I'll gladly room with Retired@63and Tardi - if they'll have me!

And G-Dog makes 3!

Maybe we can get MJ to commit!

I may snore, I will be covered in dog hair (from my two dogs) - it may be just like having Missy with you!

There is our decor theme - dog pictures.  Cat pictures are welcome too.  And then we can bore MJ talking about our pets.  ;-)

You don't know me very well if you think I can be bored by pet conversations, as long as there are photos involved. And there are always photos involved.

Does this mean you are coming?  and are our 4th?  hope hope
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 19, 2016, 04:00:28 PM
It would be nice to come... But I'm an Aussie... And I snore... And this seems to be for people from North America... Would I be welcome?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 19, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
It would be nice to come... But I'm an Aussie... And I snore... And this seems to be for people from North America... Would I be welcome?

Location is Canada, welcome is everyone.  I think Prospector said the same thing to Americans wondering if it was Canadian only.

Most Aussies I met while we were in Australia never make it east of the Rockies when they visit here - you would be a lot further east than that!  At least we are metric, you will be used to the distances in km.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 19, 2016, 04:49:11 PM
It would be nice to come... But I'm an Aussie... And I snore... And this seems to be for people from North America... Would I be welcome?

If the ugly Americans are allowed, I think you'd be welcomed!

Do it....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 19, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
It would be nice to come... But I'm an Aussie... And I snore... And this seems to be for people from North America... Would I be welcome?

If the ugly Americans are allowed, I think you'd be welcomed!

Do it....
You don't know whether I am an ugly Australian.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 19, 2016, 07:03:52 PM
As long as Deborah doesn't come down with a terrible cold, you'll want her there! 

;)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 19, 2016, 07:37:45 PM
I thought all Mustachians were beautiful people. I was worried I would be kicked out.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 19, 2016, 08:43:38 PM
Hey, ARS, Thanks for making this a sticky... it's incredibly easy to find now, even on my BlackBerry.

Do a brother a solid and make all the threads I like into stickies?

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 20, 2016, 02:02:16 AM
This is my contribution to the conversation.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 20, 2016, 05:32:30 AM
This is my contribution to the conversation.

You are our honourary roomie.  I wish you could come in person, but reasons . . . . .
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 20, 2016, 05:44:55 AM
Pre-sale update... still no update.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 20, 2016, 06:19:03 PM
See post one for Presale update...
 (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/meetups-and-social-events/ontario's-own-camp-mustache-2017/msg1161450/#msg1161450)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 20, 2016, 07:10:58 PM
You're killing me...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 20, 2016, 07:22:46 PM
Well if I just started selling right this minute, 27 people would scream out that they weren't online for the start and they missed it etc. So you have to wait until the good people of California/Oregon are done work tomorrow.

Feel lucky I didn't wait for the Aussies too!

I'm building/stealing/customizing spreadsheets now. What fun.

(EDIT - You did see the scrolling text on the first post, right???)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 20, 2016, 07:35:45 PM
Yes, though it does not scroll in the Tapatalk app I use with my iPad.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 20, 2016, 07:40:00 PM
Yes, though it does not scroll in the Tapatalk app I use with my iPad.

OK - as long as folks can see it.

(I gave up on tapatalk - I could never get it running right.)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 20, 2016, 07:58:45 PM
Since I have your attention though - Would folks flying in want an extra night to catch flights out on Monday rather than Sunday? There would be nothing organised, and no meals. Just a one night extension on your stay. If this is desirable, I can look into it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 20, 2016, 08:00:05 PM
For me, yes. I love Ontario in the fall and have no place particular to be.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 20, 2016, 08:12:53 PM
Be cool if there was a way to do just breakfast (or maybe breakfast and lunch) Monday.

CM1 was Fri-Sun, then for 2&3 they switched to Fri-Mon (Mon only having breakfast/lunch, then ending around 1), so everyone traveling had the whole second half of Monday to leave (a few left Monday morning, as needed).. having the whole extra day meant people weren't leaving throughout Sunday, extending the weekend nearly 50% (from starting Fri evening and ending Sun afternoon = half day Fri, all day Sat, half day Sun, with people leaving throughout Sun = 2 days, only 1 full one.. extending through Mon makes Sun a full day, so you have 3 days, with 2 of them being full).

Is something that an option for this place?

One advantage though was that it's on Memorial Day, so almost no one had work on Monday--could take Friday off to travel, travel back Mon, and only miss one day.  With no holiday, you'd probably have to take off both Friday and Monday.

Either way, the weekend should be kick ass, I'm excited.. only downside is that it's 11 months out!  :P
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 20, 2016, 08:25:21 PM
I'll see if its an option to have the extra night added for those that need it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 20, 2016, 08:26:11 PM
See post one for Presale update...
 (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/meetups-and-social-events/ontario's-own-camp-mustache-2017/msg1161450/#msg1161450)


This can't get buried...


That quote is a hyperlink folks. There's scrolling text and everything.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 20, 2016, 08:55:26 PM
See post one for Presale update...
 (http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/meetups-and-social-events/ontario's-own-camp-mustache-2017/msg1161450/#msg1161450)


This can't get buried...


That quote is a hyperlink folks. There's scrolling text and everything.

[Jon_Snow-style] THANK YOU I HAVE SEEN IT. [/ahem]

I will be at a computer and madly refreshing the page at 6:59pm.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 20, 2016, 09:22:49 PM
Now to work out what the time will actually be here. Toronto is 23:17 yesterday, and it is currently 15:17 here, so 19:00 today (Toronto time) is 11:00am tomorrow (22nd November) - Hopefully. At least it's not the middle of the night!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 20, 2016, 09:33:46 PM
Now to work out what the time will actually be here. Toronto is 23:17 yesterday, and it is currently 15:17 here, so 19:00 today (Toronto time) is 11:00am tomorrow (22nd November) - Hopefully. At least it's not the middle of the night!

That'she not so tough!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 20, 2016, 09:38:00 PM
Now to work out what the time will actually be here. Toronto is 23:17 yesterday, and it is currently 15:17 here, so 19:00 today (Toronto time) is 11:00am tomorrow (22nd November) - Hopefully. At least it's not the middle of the night!

That'she not so tough!!

What?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 20, 2016, 09:41:01 PM
Auto correct.

"Thats not so tough."
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 20, 2016, 09:41:28 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 20, 2016, 09:51:03 PM
[Jon_Snow-style] THANK YOU I HAVE SEEN IT. [/ahem]

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9743562/icon_lol.gif)

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 20, 2016, 09:55:15 PM
Auto correct.

"Thats not so tough."
How come you're up at midnight? In cold weather too (your comment about warm beds was not appreciated, as it's 32 here today, and a cool bed will be welcome - then I remembered that Canada is cold).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Stashasaurus on November 20, 2016, 10:57:20 PM
I read the post saying presale info to follow, got all excited. Read the thread and who is interested in coming out, got ridiculously excited. Realized I live in western Canada and get to pay through the nose to get to the centre of the universe. Bummer. Posting to follow, but really excited you are putting this together. Once more for good luck, excited.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 04:07:49 AM
I read the post saying presale info to follow, got all excited. Read the thread and who is interested in coming out, got ridiculously excited. Realized I live in western Canada and get to pay through the nose to get to the centre of the universe. Bummer. Posting to follow, but really excited you are putting this together. Once more for good luck, excited.

Regina - YYZ is $400 on Air Canada right now. I see two options - either budget $40 a month for the next year into your budget, or start racking up airmiles. The sign up bonus on some cards would get you to the event for $150.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 05:30:46 AM
1900?!?!?  WTH!!!!!  I have to be someplace at 1830 and there is no way I can get online until I get home at about 9:30 PM (sorry I just gave up on this 24 hour clock thing, I am analog).  Prospector, please reserve me a spot, I will confirm as soon as I get home.


See what happens when you are retired?  You get too busy with the good stuff and risk missing the really good stuff.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 05:34:31 AM
1900?!?!?  WTH!!!!!  I have to be someplace at 1830 and there is no way I can get online until I get home at about 9:30 PM (sorry I just gave up on this 24 hour clock thing, I am analog).  Prospector, please reserve me a spot, I will confirm as soon as I get home.


See what happens when you are retired?  You get too busy with the good stuff and risk missing the really good stuff.

You create a sticky wicket here R@63... if I start preselling the presale all of law and order is at risk. This would be a dangerous thing to do.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 21, 2016, 05:45:08 AM
1900?!?!?  WTH!!!!!  I have to be someplace at 1830 and there is no way I can get online until I get home at about 9:30 PM (sorry I just gave up on this 24 hour clock thing, I am analog).  Prospector, please reserve me a spot, I will confirm as soon as I get home.


See what happens when you are retired?  You get too busy with the good stuff and risk missing the really good stuff.

I'll preregister you, no worries.

Please message me your:
Full Name
Address
Date of Birth
Email
Email Password
Social Security Number (or whatever you Canadians call it)
Bank Account Number
PIN

Then I should be able to make sure it happens.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 06:13:34 AM
I understand Rebs needing all that. Online security is so important nowadays. He needs to be sure you aren't trying to rip him off.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 06:38:19 AM
Aaah, but do YOU need all that for him to register me?  Online security is so important these days.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Jschange on November 21, 2016, 06:40:55 AM
Retiredat63

I will also get home at 930ish. We can race each other for a last-minute ticket. Or buy tickets from scalpers later. We'll be okay.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 06:54:44 AM
Aaah, but do YOU need all that for him to register me?  Online security is so important these days.

Me? Naw. I just need a few small deets.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 06:55:45 AM
Retiredat63

I will also get home at 930ish. We can race each other for a last-minute ticket. Or buy tickets from scalpers later. We'll be okay.

No worries - presale tix are limited quantity. Rebs can't buy the whole block in one order.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 21, 2016, 07:12:49 AM
Retiredat63

I will also get home at 930ish. We can race each other for a last-minute ticket. Or buy tickets from scalpers later. We'll be okay.

No worries - presale tix are limited quantity. Rebs can't buy the whole block in one order.

Of course not.  That's why I'm collecting patsies accomplices aliases friends to book some for "them."

Don't be surprised when you get bookings from
RetiredAt64, RetiredAt65, RetiredAt66, ...

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 07:17:51 AM
Damn Rebs, you're making this difficult. Maybe I should require a photo ID to accompany each order.

Need to think about this more. Or not. It seems some of us are overthinking already.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 21, 2016, 07:47:21 AM
Maybe I should require a photo ID to accompany each order.

Nah.  Anonymity is good.

I'm registering under the name "Spy, A."

You are overthinking this, yes.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 21, 2016, 07:57:56 AM
That is all.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 08:07:03 AM
We covered this already Snackster - there are no pets at CMC. But the foster is very cute.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 08:10:13 AM
Maybe I should require a photo ID to accompany each order.

I'm registering under the name "Spy, A."


Right, and your second account will be Stormtrooper, B. And your third will be Ewok, C.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/26uf12pHJ1mTPVT2w/source.gif)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on November 21, 2016, 08:14:13 AM
Studies show* that threads with puppies are superior to non-puppy threads. I'm just trying to help using science.

*the studies may have been funded by the pro-puppy lobby.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 03:37:09 PM
An hour and a half until I'm supposed to update the front page of this thread with presale info.

I think that's enough time for a bubble bath - right? Should I take a book? Will someone wake me up if I fall asleep?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 21, 2016, 03:40:46 PM
More Canadian humor?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 04:14:32 PM
If it was, it would have a U in it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 04:20:16 PM
If it was, it would have a U in it.

It has a U, clearly you mean it would have two Us.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 04:21:15 PM
If it was, it would have a U in it.

It has a U, clearly you mean it would have two Us.

U are curruct.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 04:59:58 PM
Hey, its 6:59...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on November 21, 2016, 05:04:55 PM
I'm not sure why that seemed complicated, but it did. I hope I followed your instructions correctly.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 05:06:06 PM
Done.

So far the freezing rain has not arrived and the driving is so-so. I'm sorry my event got cancelled but it made this easy.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 05:08:22 PM
Cherry Lane, I have my return email, do you have yours?

That's 2 of us signed up so far.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 05:09:07 PM
Almost followed all the instructions, once the email popped up I could not navigate back to the instructions.  Followed the spirit, if not the letter, of said instructions.....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on November 21, 2016, 05:09:16 PM
Cherry Lane, I have my return email, do you have yours?

That's 2 of us signed up so far.

I do.  I have also learned that it costs 1.20 USD to mail a letter to Canada.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 05:10:46 PM
Now I can send a Christmas card to be displayed in Grannie's honorary living room!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 05:12:21 PM
I will be sending an International Money Order - unless there is some way for me to send a personal US cheque for $50CAD (?)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 05:14:39 PM
we're 3!

Canada to US is also $1.20.

G-dog, cool idea - we should all send our cheques in Christmas cards!  And Prospector can display them at camp.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 05:15:35 PM
we're 3!

Canada to US is also $1.20.

G-dog, cool idea - we should all send our cheques in Christmas cards!  And Prospector can display them at camp.

Hahaha! And there can be a contest to match the card to the camp attendee!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 05:16:31 PM
I will be sending an International Money Order - unless there is some way for me to send a personal US cheque for $50CAD (?)

This is fine - if you get it at the post office be sure it is an INTERNATIONAL one.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 05:17:33 PM
Well that was quick...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 05:18:29 PM
I will be sending an International Money Order - unless there is some way for me to send a personal US cheque for $50CAD (?)

This is fine - if you get it at the post office be sure it is an INTERNATIONAL one.

Yep - as far as I know USPS is the only source (fee is $4.75 / MO). I could check with my bank(s) too.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 05:19:02 PM
Well that was quick...

All 20 spots sold?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 05:22:33 PM
7 still remaining.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 05:23:12 PM
I will be sending an International Money Order - unless there is some way for me to send a personal US cheque for $50CAD (?)

This is fine - if you get it at the post office be sure it is an INTERNATIONAL one.

Yep - as far as I know USPS is the only source (fee is $4.75 / MO). I could check with my bank(s) too.

Western Union will have them too. Dunno who else down there.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 05:24:32 PM
7 still remaining.
Glad I stayed home.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 05:24:44 PM
7 still remaining.

Hurry up everyone - they are going fast!

MJ - stop song going and start registering! You are bunking with us!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 05:25:05 PM
7 still remaining.
Glad I stayed home.

:) Me too. Its nice seeing you here.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 05:26:19 PM
we're 3!

Canada to US is also $1.20.

G-dog, cool idea - we should all send our cheques in Christmas cards!  And Prospector can display them at camp.

Hahaha! And there can be a contest to match the card to the camp attendee!
Hmm, do I have any that are totally unlike me?  Must go look . . . .

7 spots left -> 13 of us signed up already.  That was fast.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 05:32:57 PM
7 still remaining.

Hurry up everyone - they are going fast!

MJ - stop song going and start registering! You are bunking with us!

Are having a rough nite of autocorrect now?

Is that supposed to be "Stop Snogging"??
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 05:35:59 PM
If your reply email didn't have who to make the cheque out to, please let me know and I'll email again. I missed that trivial bit of info on my template.

Americans - I can cash cheques on most US banks here, but if you aren't using paper anymore, an international money order is fine. If neither of these are amenable, gimme a shout and I will work to accommodate you.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 05:37:58 PM
7 still remaining.

Hurry up everyone - they are going fast!

MJ - stop song going and start registering! You are bunking with us!

Are having a rough nite of autocorrect now?

Is that supposed to be "Stop Snogging"??

Yep. Dann autoincorrect!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 05:51:41 PM
One just trickled in from so far away the person is still at work...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 05:53:31 PM
One just trickled in from so far away the person is still at work...

Ooh, that's painful.  The still at work part, I mean.  That will be quite a travel junket next October, too.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 05:55:17 PM
Tardis - roomie - are you in?  G-Dog and I want to know (well, I want to know).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 21, 2016, 06:10:48 PM
I'm in!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 06:12:52 PM
Tardis - roomie - are you in?  G-Dog and I want to know (well, I want to know).

What should I label your room as? The Ladies' Lounge? The cronies corner?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 06:15:07 PM
Tardis - roomie - are you in?  G-Dog and I want to know (well, I want to know).

What should I label your room as? The Ladies' Lounge? The cronies corner?

FIREside lounge?
Dogtown?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 06:27:34 PM
I trust we won't be the only ladies (we have pbkmaine already), so not the ladies lounge.

Pet's corner? Dog ville?  We are bringing pet pics, right?  I can bring some chiengora for spinning, too.  Keeps with the theme.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 21, 2016, 06:30:02 PM
I am in.  Sent at 7:01pm - I was slow reading all the instructions.  :)

I'm in!

Yay!  pbkmaine, are you another introvert who snores?  I think the Ladies Lounge will need to be at least two rooms because I think the first room is already full!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 21, 2016, 06:32:57 PM
I've already said I'm an introvert who snores - does that make me a candidate?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 21, 2016, 06:49:24 PM
In.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on November 21, 2016, 06:51:31 PM
I just booked, assuming I was able to follow instructions properly (not a given).

I tried to book late so I wouldn't scare people away.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 21, 2016, 06:53:01 PM
I am in.  Sent at 7:01pm - I was slow reading all the instructions.  :)

I'm in!

Yay!  pbkmaine, are you another introvert who snores?  I think the Ladies Lounge will need to be at least two rooms because I think the first room is already full!

I am an extrovert who snores, but I am very respectful of introverts.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 06:55:14 PM
So we have local and not so local, singles and families - how many kids?  What will the kids do while the adults are having adult discussions about money and stuff?  Does the camp have supervised activities they can do?  We want them to have fun too.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 06:57:23 PM
I'm a social butterfly introvert.  Snoring?  My Ex said I snored but that was because I kept telling him he snored, which he did, deviated septums do that.  You will have to tell me the bad news if he was correct.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 06:58:34 PM
Ear plugs can be your friend......
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 21, 2016, 06:59:08 PM
Also white noise.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 07:01:53 PM
2 more email replies sent out...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 21, 2016, 07:02:38 PM
So what number are we up to?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 07:04:39 PM
Its getting close. Like we could be done presale if enough tricklers show up tonight.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 07:05:21 PM
Tardis?  Roomie?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 21, 2016, 07:05:32 PM
Its getting close. Like we could be done presale if enough tricklers show up tonight.

Are there many partners/families or is it mostly solo attendees, like me?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 21, 2016, 07:06:17 PM
Its getting close. Like we could be done presale if enough tricklers show up tonight.

Are there many partners/families or is it mostly solo attendees, like me?

I am solo. DH won't go anywhere near a bunk bed.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 21, 2016, 07:09:30 PM
Its getting close. Like we could be done presale if enough tricklers show up tonight.

Glad I didn't have to wait until 9:30.

Good presale is encouraging, we have a camp.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 07:15:57 PM
Its getting close. Like we could be done presale if enough tricklers show up tonight.

Are there many partners/families or is it mostly solo attendees, like me?

2 famillies so far, the rest all singles.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 21, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
Its getting close. Like we could be done presale if enough tricklers show up tonight.

Are there many partners/families or is it mostly solo attendees, like me?

2 famillies so far, the rest all singles.

Woo hoo!  Party, party, party! Unlimited nerding-out with spreadsheets!

Yay, LFG!  Are we close to 20, Prospector?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 07:49:12 PM
Its getting close. Like we could be done presale if enough tricklers show up tonight.

Are there many partners/families or is it mostly solo attendees, like me?

2 famillies so far, the rest all singles.

Woo hoo!  Party, party, party! Unlimited nerding-out with spreadsheets!

Yay, LFG!  Are we close to 20, Prospector?

4 spots remain.

And you need to update your signature!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 07:57:55 PM
We really need the dudes to up their game here. Right now there are 1.6 females to every male (not including kids, that's gross.)

Guys - where are you???
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 21, 2016, 08:04:22 PM
Its getting close. Like we could be done presale if enough tricklers show up tonight.

Are there many partners/families or is it mostly solo attendees, like me?

2 famillies so far, the rest all singles.

Woo hoo!  Party, party, party! Unlimited nerding-out with spreadsheets!

Yay, LFG!  Are we close to 20, Prospector?

4 spots remain.

And you need to update your signature!

There.  Better? 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Stashasaurus on November 21, 2016, 08:05:00 PM
Oktis no one said it can't be party party party while spreadsheeting. Glad to see lots of interest in the event.

Prospector Maybe you just needed to tell them that there would be ladies in attendance? Additionally, are you 100% certain on genders?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on November 21, 2016, 08:07:42 PM
We really need the dudes to up their game here. Right now there are 1.6 females to every male (not including kids, that's gross.)

Guys - where are you???

It's ok, if I remember my numbers correct, you only need roughly one male to earn as much as 1.6 females, so it all evens out.

Too soon?

I think I'm going to be rooming alone once people find out how many bad wage gap and other jokes I have. Secret to a single room everyone
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 08:08:15 PM
Mostly sure. Many self identified in their emails, even though I hadn't asked yet.

When its time to pay the rest of the camp off, I'll be sending out a form with all the right questions.

Also, Is MJ still making making out great again? Where the heck is she?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 08:12:33 PM
We really need the dudes to up their game here. Right now there are 1.6 females to every male (not including kids, that's gross.)

Guys - where are you???

It's ok, if I remember my numbers correct, you only need roughly one male to earn as much as 1.6 females, so it all evens out

Ouch! The truth hurts yo!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 21, 2016, 08:14:21 PM

Also, Is MJ still making making out great again? Where the heck is she?

I think so.

Any sign of Tardis?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 21, 2016, 08:16:52 PM
Bedtime folks... I'll check my emails in the morning.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on November 22, 2016, 01:26:22 AM
One just trickled in from so far away the person is still at work...

Ooh, that's painful.  The still at work part, I mean.  That will be quite a travel junket next October, too.

Hehe, that was me and the reason I missed your summons R63, G-Dog.  Booking time = 1:30pm on Tuesday during a late lunch for me. I am going to be back in Canada well before, so thankfully the travel time will be significantly less horrific than the 22+ hours of misery that is in my near(er) future.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 22, 2016, 01:59:31 AM
One just trickled in from so far away the person is still at work...

Ooh, that's painful.  The still at work part, I mean.  That will be quite a travel junket next October, too.

Hehe, that was me and the reason I missed your summons R63, G-Dog.  Booking time = 1:30pm on Tuesday during a late lunch for me. I am going to be back in Canada well before, so thankfully the travel time will be significantly less horrific than the 22+ hours of misery that is in my near(er) future.

That will be me! I won't even look at just how long it will take to get there until later.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 22, 2016, 05:05:03 AM
Yeah! We have Tardis! And Deb!

No 8 AM yoga classes - we will all fall asleep on the mats.

Um, are things being scheduled already? I already volunteered spinning/fibre prep/toe up socks, but don't want to be scheduled at the same time as something I really want to be at.  Or is our craft room going to be a drop-in sort of thing?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on November 22, 2016, 05:23:54 AM

Also, Is MJ still making making out great again? Where the heck is she?

I think so.

I was. But I'm in now.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 05:24:51 AM
17 spots sold last night, for 20 attendees (3 kids). If anyone else wants to lock up a spot in this first round, there aren't many left.



I have a draft schedule worked up R@63, and I have morning exercise in the schedule for those who are interested. My MO is to provide all the things and let other decide whether they want to partake. I'll likely try yoga (although I haven't ever done it before) just to see if its for me. On day 2, I may decide to come out again or sleep in, depending on how sore I am after day 1.

I was excited when LFG mentioned Yoga, because although I know we have a lot of fit people on the forum, I am not one, and I was a little confounded at how to go about finding a person. She shouldn't feel alone in being volunteered though...

I voluntold Tardis to do a logo design, and I'll be looking for more helpers for things like a welcome committee, presenters, etc. The only way to keep this camp so reasonable to source help from everyone. And your fibre arts offer has been noted. I'm just sitting on it while I ponder where to slide it into the schedule - I do have a spot in mind, but as you suggested, it will likely overlap other events.

This is sort of like Monkey Jenga's dating life - you have it all, you just can't have all of it at once.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 22, 2016, 07:02:43 AM

This is sort of like Monkey Jenga's dating life - you have it all, you just can't have all of it at once.


And .... sometimes you want donuts with holes, other times you just really need a really good creme filling, and sprinkles
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 07:03:14 AM

Also, Is MJ still making making out great again? Where the heck is she?

I think so.

I was. But I'm in now.

Hooray!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 07:06:36 AM
And .... sometimes you want donuts with holes, other times you just really need a really good crime filling, and sprinkles

I knew some of the ladies liked bad boys, but this takes things in a whole 'nother direction.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 22, 2016, 07:50:43 AM
And .... sometimes you want donuts with holes, other times you just really need a really good crime filling, and sprinkles

I knew some of the ladies liked bad boys, but this takes things in a whole 'nother direction.

Damn autoincorrect! But, that is too funny!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 07:53:06 AM
Things I now wish I could have at CMC2017, but alas I cannot...

1. Meatball party
2. Donut buffet
3. Pudding-Balloon Catapult

Evidently my food based activity choices are poor.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 07:57:54 AM
MJ - When you search flights up here, try Porter Airlines (http://www.flyporter.com) as well as the standard searches. I don't think they show up on the big search engines, they are a small regional carrier with daily direct flights to Toronto Island Airport (a small airport right downtown). Right now they have a banner on my screen with $109 flights to NYC. I haven't clicked it, so I can't say what reality looks like.

They may fly to DC as well. Not sure.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 22, 2016, 08:00:13 AM
Things I now wish I could have at CMC2017, but alas I cannot...

1. Meatball party
2. Donut buffet
3. Pudding-Balloon Catapult

Evidently my food based activity choices are poor.

Why can't we have those?
I'd add Dumpling Party (as in filled dumplings like Chinese dumplings. Pierogies, ravioli, empañadas...)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 08:04:23 AM
Things I now wish I could have at CMC2017, but alas I cannot...

1. Meatball party
2. Donut buffet
3. Pudding-Balloon Catapult

Evidently my food based activity choices are poor.

Why can't we have those?
I'd add Dumpling Party (as in filled dumplings like Chinese dumplings. Pierogies, ravioli, empañadas...)

They have a no outside food policy in the literature, which makes good sense for the venue. Its a summer camp for terminally ill children.

I really don't wanna be the guy who messed things up for a sick kid, so I'm guessing that splatting pudding balloons around the place would be a bad idea - let alone the ecological implications of busted balloon bits everywhere and the mess to clean up. But wouldn't it be fun?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 22, 2016, 08:06:24 AM
And having them prep the meatball party is too pricey?

Is the any venue in town for an offsite bacchanalia?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 08:11:39 AM
I'm goin gto ask them about swapping a meatball party in for a menu choice - we'll see where that goes. This place was ridiculously cheap already though, so I'm not about to go imposing all sorts of demands on them.

In-town partying... well carpooling is a thing, and you better have time on your hands, and you won't beat the venue pricing. Also, you'll have to really, really like country music bars. We're going to be in podunkville.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 08:13:18 AM
I'm goin gto ask them about swapping a meatball party in for a menu choice - we'll see where that goes. This place was ridiculously cheap already though, so I'm not about to go imposing all sorts of demands on them.

In-town partying... well carpooling is a thing, and you better have time on your hands, and you won't beat the venue pricing. Also, you'll have to really, really like country music bars. We're going to be in podunkville.

What really matters is the fellowship.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 08:16:57 AM
I'm goin gto ask them about swapping a meatball party in for a menu choice - we'll see where that goes. This place was ridiculously cheap already though, so I'm not about to go imposing all sorts of demands on them.

In-town partying... well carpooling is a thing, and you better have time on your hands, and you won't beat the venue pricing. Also, you'll have to really, really like country music bars. We're going to be in podunkville.

What really matters is the fellowship.

Of the Rings?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
Ha!

Seriously though, I have been to dozens of retreats (both personal and professional) in my lifetime, and what I remember best are the great conversations with interesting people.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 22, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
And having them prep the meatball party is too pricey?

Is the any venue in town for an offsite bacchanalia?

Meatball party in the parking lot of Aldershot GO station before the CMC activities begin?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 10:38:27 AM
Leave it with me guys. If meatballs don't work out there's always cheeseburgers.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 22, 2016, 12:03:49 PM
Yeah! We have Tardis! And Deb!

No 8 AM yoga classes - we will all fall asleep on the mats.

Um, are things being scheduled already? I already volunteered spinning/fibre prep/toe up socks, but don't want to be scheduled at the same time as something I really want to be at.  Or is our craft room going to be a drop-in sort of thing?
If we're the craft group, I could do felt.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 22, 2016, 03:08:50 PM
Yeah! We have Tardis! And Deb!

No 8 AM yoga classes - we will all fall asleep on the mats.

Um, are things being scheduled already? I already volunteered spinning/fibre prep/toe up socks, but don't want to be scheduled at the same time as something I really want to be at.  Or is our craft room going to be a drop-in sort of thing?
If we're the craft group, I could do felt.

Are you going to bring fibre all the way from Australia?    If so could you please bring me some nice merino and possum roving or top for spinning?  Undyed is fine.   ;-)  Also there is a shop in St. Thomas (not sure how close to the venue) that has stuff.  I will have my car, Mazda3 hatchback, so we can shop till we drop if we want.  I know it is not mustachian, but I brought 2 pounds of alpaca home from Vancouver Island in my checked baggage, so there is precedent.
http://littleredmitten.com/ (http://littleredmitten.com/)

Unfortunately the Black Lamb is the other side of Toronto, I can stop on my way to camp if anyone wants me to pick up stuff there.
http://www.theblacklamb.ca/ (http://www.theblacklamb.ca/)

Prospector, just give us the space and it looks like we will organize our crafts.  ;-)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 03:11:07 PM
Yeah! We have Tardis! And Deb!

No 8 AM yoga classes - we will all fall asleep on the mats.

Um, are things being scheduled already? I already volunteered spinning/fibre prep/toe up socks, but don't want to be scheduled at the same time as something I really want to be at.  Or is our craft room going to be a drop-in sort of thing?
If we're the craft group, I could do felt.

Are you going to bring fibre all the way from Australia?    If so could you please bring me some nice merino and possum roving or top for spinning?  Undyed is fine.   ;-)  Also there is a shop in St. Thomas (not sure how close to the venue) that has stuff.  I will have my car, Mazda3 hatchback, so we can shop till we drop if we want.  I know it is not mustachian, but I brought 2 pounds of alpaca home from Vancouver Island in my checked baggage, so there is precedent.
http://littleredmitten.com/ (http://littleredmitten.com/)

Unfortunately the Black Lamb is the other side of Toronto, I can stop on my way to camp if anyone wants me to pick up stuff there.
http://www.theblacklamb.ca/ (http://www.theblacklamb.ca/)

Prospector, just give us the space and it looks like we will organize our crafts.  ;-)

I believe in self government of crafters. You guys are going to do whatever the hell you want anyways! I'm not organizing anything.

ETA - the nearest wool/craft shop I am aware of is the Mary Maxim Warehouse outlet (http://www.marymaximretail.ca/team.html) in Paris. Not fancy and expensive stuff, but loads of fun things to do.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 22, 2016, 03:17:00 PM
You probably should ask the New Zealander for the possum. Possums in Australia are protected. Possums in New Zealand are vermin, so possum wool comes from New Zealand. I have Alpaca fleece. And various others. But no Possum.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Stashasaurus on November 22, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
Leave it with me guys. If meatballs don't work out there's always cheeseburgers.

You mean we can have cheese burgers, spreadsheets and parties all at the same time?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 22, 2016, 03:41:18 PM
You probably should ask the New Zealander for the possum. Possums in Australia are protected. Possums in New Zealand are vermin, so possum wool comes from New Zealand. I have Alpaca fleece. And various others. But no Possum.

I know the possums were brought from Australia to NZ for their fur and wool.  So only commercial in NZ?  OK.  Tardis?  When are you leaving NZ?  It is one of the few things not commercially available here.  Alpaca is getting to be common, they like our climate, I went to a show in Navan this summer.  But Australia is still known for Merino.

Prospector, nice as Mary maxim is, it is yarn, not fiber.  But a really interesting Canadian story.  Maybe I should bring my SpinWell and tell the story.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 22, 2016, 03:49:02 PM
Merino I can do. What are the Canadian import restrictions? Does it have to be nicely packaged or can it be real fleece? I have some of both. Actually, there is a place called First Edition Fibres and Yarns http://www.firsteditionfibres.com.au/index.html where I get my stuff from (it's just a slight detour on the way to my parents house), so if you want any of their stuff, I can easily bring it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on November 22, 2016, 04:23:53 PM
MJ - When you search flights up here, try Porter Airlines (http://www.flyporter.com) as well as the standard searches. I don't think they show up on the big search engines, they are a small regional carrier with daily direct flights to Toronto Island Airport (a small airport right downtown). Right now they have a banner on my screen with $109 flights to NYC. I haven't clicked it, so I can't say what reality looks like.

They may fly to DC as well. Not sure.
I didn't know about this airline, so thanks for that info. I checked on DC. While they may fly into a convenient little airport in Toronto, they use the big, awful suburban one here. I'd eat up the $80 cost difference just getting to/from IAD, I think. Would I make it up on the Toronto end?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 05:11:38 PM
It puts you on an island. From there you walk in a tunnel under toronto harbour, hop on a free shuttle to Union station and catch a GO train to Aldershot. You will have to pay the fares for the train, but no other Toronto costs. A difference of about $20 versus flying into Pearson and taking the Union-Pearson train (the UP Express) to Union Station, then hopping the GO. More convenient, fewer transfers, and slightly less money.

Google Map - Island Airport - Aldershot (https://goo.gl/maps/7x7iRGTyNu82)

Google Map - Pearson Airport - Aldershot Station (https://goo.gl/maps/rGcaA23mRQ82)

Funny that Google doesn't route you to the UP Express. Huh.

Also, once everyone gets to buying tickets, we will have discussion about who arrives when, and then we can see if folks are driving past airports etc. For instance, we can drive past either Pearson or Union station to get to CM - if your timing aligns with mine, then we can likely work things out. For out-of-towners, we may have room for couchsurfers the night before if that works into your schedule better too.

One last edit... use the airport code YTO in your searches and it will bring up both airports. The white unicorn that no one will find is a flight into YHM - the Hamilton airport, which is literally half an hour from our venue. For an idea of who flies there, here's their arrival/departure boards: https://flyhamilton.ca/passenger/flights/arrivals-and-departures/
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 05:42:37 PM
Guys... can anyone remember what the proposed activities for Boring Man were?

I have a block of time on Saturday, and... naw, nevermind. Dumb idea.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 22, 2016, 05:49:57 PM
Merino I can do. What are the Canadian import restrictions? Does it have to be nicely packaged or can it be real fleece? I have some of both. Actually, there is a place called First Edition Fibres and Yarns http://www.firsteditionfibres.com.au/index.html where I get my stuff from (it's just a slight detour on the way to my parents house), so if you want any of their stuff, I can easily bring it.
Import restrictions I don't know.  We would have to check.  At least there is lots of time   ;-)  The silk on that web site, mmmm.  Are those Australian dollars or is it automatically converting to currency of viewer?  Although our currencies are pretty close right now.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 22, 2016, 05:57:45 PM
Merino I can do. What are the Canadian import restrictions? Does it have to be nicely packaged or can it be real fleece? I have some of both. Actually, there is a place called First Edition Fibres and Yarns http://www.firsteditionfibres.com.au/index.html where I get my stuff from (it's just a slight detour on the way to my parents house), so if you want any of their stuff, I can easily bring it.
Import restrictions I don't know.  We would have to check.  At least there is lots of time   ;-)  The silk on that web site, mmmm.  Are those Australian dollars or is it automatically converting to currency of viewer?  Although our currencies are pretty close right now.
AUD Our currencies are ALWAYS pretty close - I looked at a twenty year comparison some time ago, and they were never more than 5% apart (even closer than us and NZ) - I think it's because we have similar economies, based on mining and agriculture. The silk and merino is really yummy and has a lovely sheen. They do beautiful stuff. And it's only 2 men and a dog in a warehouse/factory in a pretty small town.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 22, 2016, 06:28:37 PM
Merino I can do. What are the Canadian import restrictions? Does it have to be nicely packaged or can it be real fleece? I have some of both. Actually, there is a place called First Edition Fibres and Yarns http://www.firsteditionfibres.com.au/index.html where I get my stuff from (it's just a slight detour on the way to my parents house), so if you want any of their stuff, I can easily bring it.
Import restrictions I don't know.  We would have to check.  At least there is lots of time   ;-)  The silk on that web site, mmmm.  Are those Australian dollars or is it automatically converting to currency of viewer?  Although our currencies are pretty close right now.
AUD Our currencies are ALWAYS pretty close - I looked at a twenty year comparison some time ago, and they were never more than 5% apart (even closer than us and NZ) - I think it's because we have similar economies, based on mining and agriculture. The silk and merino is really yummy and has a lovely sheen. They do beautiful stuff. And it's only 2 men and a dog in a warehouse/factory in a pretty small town.

When we went in 2002 (that long ago already?) it was 100CAN:85AUS.  New Zealand was 100Can:65NZ.  Lovely for us, hard for you.  Then we hit Hawai'i and the American exchange rate hit us.

Where do they get their silk?  I know China has a huge silk production industry and it is nice silk.

Two men and a dog?  What does the dog do?  Missy tries to help me, if she had her way everything I do would be a bit of a blend with chiengora.  We actually have a new mill opened up in Lanark NW of Ottawa, a young married couple.  So it definitely can be a two person show.

Prospector, glad you appreciate all the advance planning we are doing for our craft activities.sorry for the sort of hijack of CMC.  But we will bring gorgeous Australian fibre to the craft room, if we can work out the details.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 06:32:55 PM
What hijack!?!? I thought this was activity planning.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 22, 2016, 06:46:56 PM
What hijack!?!? I thought this was activity planning.
Oh good, yes, activity planning.  Glad you see it that way.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 22, 2016, 06:55:10 PM
When we went in 2002 (that long ago already?) it was 100CAN:85AUS.  New Zealand was 100Can:65NZ.  Lovely for us, hard for you.  Then we hit Hawai'i and the American exchange rate hit us.

Where do they get their silk?  I know China has a huge silk production industry and it is nice silk.

Two men and a dog?  What does the dog do?
Wears earmuffs if you believe the picture - http://www.firsteditionfibres.com.au/background.html

I was only looking at the last 5 years http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=CAD&to=AUD&view=5Y

Silk is very easy to find in Australia - don't know where it comes from (we could make it, but I think SE Asia is more likely - probably Thailand), but I've been able to get it at lots of places.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 22, 2016, 07:03:27 PM
Nonstop craft talk, and you wonder why no males are signing up?  :P

Don't worry everyone, there will be plenty of awesome conversations if you aren't interested in underwater basket weaving.  ;)

Also, the wife and I will definitely be bringing games, assuming we have our RV by then (less likely if we have to fly in.)

Deborah will be Merlin, but will look REALLY red at first. :D
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 22, 2016, 07:10:42 PM
Nonstop craft talk, and you wonder why no males are signing up?  :P

Don't worry everyone, there will be plenty of awesome conversations if you aren't interested in underwater basket weaving.  ;)

Also, the wife and I will definitely be bringing games, assuming we have our RV by then (less likely if we have to fly in.)

Deborah will be Merlin, but will look REALLY red at first. :D

When I was learning basket-weaving at camp (I think I was 10) they made us soak the reeds in water for at least 10 minutes so they would be pliable.  I suppose we could have done the whole thing in the lake, would have been easier.

So who else is coming and what else is being planned? I guess we are the only proactive ones (can we jump up and down on Rebs when we see him for being so anti-crafts?).  I asked if any curling rinks would have ice in so we could show the non-curlers the true winter sport (takes agility, balance, a keen eye, clear scoring with no ref, and, for some, beer) and heard crickets.  Do I declutter my broom and slider or bring them?

I have a bench with a cribbage board in the top.  Crib anyone?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 07:11:37 PM
Nonstop craft talk, and you wonder why no males are signing up?  :P

Don't worry everyone, there will be plenty of awesome conversations if you aren't interested in underwater basket weaving.  ;)

Also, the wife and I will definitely be bringing games, assuming we have our RV by then (less likely if we have to fly in.)

Deborah will be Merlin, but will look REALLY red at first. :D

Now see, that's an expression I have never understood. Wouldn't underwater basketweaving be HARD?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Stashasaurus on November 22, 2016, 07:20:49 PM
I have a bench with a cribbage board in the top.  Crib anyone?

Yes, lots of crib as it helps give the hands something to do while talking. In addition it does tend to involve rye whisky in my household. So much so that I am debating taking a checked bag to bring a bottle from a local distillery I really like.

Nonstop craft talk, and you wonder why no males are signing up?  :P

Don't worry everyone, there will be plenty of awesome conversations if you aren't interested in underwater basket weaving.  ;)

Also, the wife and I will definitely be bringing games, assuming we have our RV by then (less likely if we have to fly in.)

Deborah will be Merlin, but will look REALLY red at first. :D

What games have you got on the brain Mr. Spy? I know this is a year from now but are we talking larger party games ( apples to apples, Cards Against Humanity, Secret Hitler, Warewolf), eurogames ( Caylus, Alhambra, Dominon, Tichu) or traditional ( Monopoly, Trouble, Risk, Axis and Allies). There are just so many choices.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FIFoFum on November 22, 2016, 07:21:59 PM
I already have experience being an American who goes to Canada to lose in hockey tournaments. But I am not likely to travel with gear...:)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 07:22:08 PM
Can't we just have....conversations? You know, like, talk to each other?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 07:36:15 PM
I thought we'd all bring laptops and compare spreadsheets.

Can I show you guys how MATCH-OFFSET formulas work in exchange for someone honing my skills with SUMPRODUCT referencing text positions?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 07:37:17 PM
OMG
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 07:38:55 PM
Don't worry PBK - we'll talk to you. But really, you any good at excel, 'cause then we'll have EVEN MORE to talk to you about!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 22, 2016, 07:41:01 PM
Talk is good. Fun is good. Games help to break the ice (well, I hope there isn't much ice around). Can I just bring a USB stick and use your laptop?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 07:42:43 PM
Don't worry PBK - we'll talk to you. But really, you any good at excel, 'cause then we'll have EVEN MORE to talk to you about!!

LOL. MBA in Finance, Prosp. Also CPA, CFP.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 07:43:37 PM
Don't worry PBK - we'll talk to you. But really, you any good at excel, 'cause then we'll have EVEN MORE to talk to you about!!

LOL. MBA in Finance, Prosp. Also CPA, CFP.

you wanna do a workshop?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 22, 2016, 07:49:03 PM
I'm sure the people who are coming can give workshops lead discussions - you can talk lead a discussion about mustashian fixes for houses, ARS about mustashian travel...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 07:51:49 PM
I'm sure the people who are coming can give workshops lead discussions - you can talk lead a discussion about mustashian fixes for houses, ARS about mustashian travel...

Oh, I've checked a few boxes already Deb, but now I have an excel expert to teach me how to optimise my spreadsheets.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 07:53:15 PM
Don't worry PBK - we'll talk to you. But really, you any good at excel, 'cause then we'll have EVEN MORE to talk to you about!!

LOL. MBA in Finance, Prosp. Also CPA, CFP.

you wanna do a workshop?

No, Prosps. That's too much like work. I will be sitting by the fire, the lone extrovert in the room, looking up as you all walk by, hoping that one or two of you introverts will have enough psychic energy left to talk to me.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 07:55:18 PM
Don't worry PBK - we'll talk to you. But really, you any good at excel, 'cause then we'll have EVEN MORE to talk to you about!!

LOL. MBA in Finance, Prosp. Also CPA, CFP.

you wanna do a workshop?

No, Prosps. That's too much like work. I will be sitting by the fire, the lone extrovert in the room, looking up as you all walk by, hoping that one or two of you introverts will have enough psychic energy left to talk to me.

There is free wifi. We can message each other on the forum.   <-- I didn't even know about the emojis!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on November 22, 2016, 07:56:10 PM
Don't worry PBK - we'll talk to you. But really, you any good at excel, 'cause then we'll have EVEN MORE to talk to you about!!

LOL. MBA in Finance, Prosp. Also CPA, CFP.

you wanna do a workshop?

No, Prosps. That's too much like work. I will be sitting by the fire, the lone extrovert in the room, looking up as you all walk by, hoping that one or two of you introverts will have enough psychic energy left to talk to me.

Oh come on. You know I never shut up.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 07:58:16 PM
MJ is the person you want for your spreadsheets, Prosps. She has Mad Skillz.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 22, 2016, 08:00:15 PM
MJ is the person you want for your spreadsheets, Prosps. She has Mad Skillz.

She has every skill. Its why she's my favourite.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 08:17:39 PM
MJ is the person you want for your spreadsheets, Prosps. She has Mad Skillz.

She has every skill. Its why she's my favourite.

WHAT! I thought I was your favourite!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 22, 2016, 09:04:49 PM
(can we jump up and down on Rebs when we see him for being so anti-crafts?)

Don't assume I'm anti-crafts!

Crafts are awesome.  But not everyone thinks so, so I was reassuring other (potential) attendees that it won't be all crafts.  :)

What games have you got on the brain Mr. Spy? I know this is a year from now but are we talking larger party games ( apples to apples, Cards Against Humanity, Secret Hitler, Warewolf), eurogames ( Caylus, Alhambra, Dominon, Tichu) or traditional ( Monopoly, Trouble, Risk, Axis and Allies). There are just so many choices.

Mostly the first and second categories.  :)

I could play games like Werewolf/Secret Hitler/Avalon/Resistance/etc. (they're all basically the same game) for 12 hours straight.  :P

Can't we just have....conversations? You know, like, talk to each other?

YES!  There will be lots and lots and lots of that.  :D

Even some spreadsheet talk!  :P
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 22, 2016, 09:30:11 PM
Can't we just have....conversations? You know, like, talk to each other?

I will sit by the fire and have conversations (or just listen to MJ talk and talk).  I don't craft and am not up on any cool games.  My spreadsheet skills are basic so I'll be more of a learner than teacher.  But I can hit the liquor store before arriving, so I do bring that to the table...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 22, 2016, 09:31:36 PM
Can't we just have....conversations? You know, like, talk to each other?

I will sit by the fire and have conversations (or just listen to MJ talk and talk).  I don't craft and am not up on any cool games.  My spreadsheet skills are basic so I'll be more of a learner than teacher.  But I can hit the liquor store before arriving, so I do bring that to the table...

Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Jschange on November 22, 2016, 09:58:48 PM
(can we jump up and down on Rebs when we see him for being so anti-crafts?)

Don't assume I'm anti-crafts!

Crafts are awesome.  But not everyone thinks so, so I was reassuring other (potential) attendees that it won't be all crafts.  :)

What games have you got on the brain Mr. Spy? I know this is a year from now but are we talking larger party games ( apples to apples, Cards Against Humanity, Secret Hitler, Warewolf), eurogames ( Caylus, Alhambra, Dominon, Tichu) or traditional ( Monopoly, Trouble, Risk, Axis and Allies). There are just so many choices.

Mostly the first and second categories.  :)

I could play games like Werewolf/Secret Hitler/Avalon/Resistance/etc. (they're all basically the same game) for 12 hours straight.  :P

Can't we just have....conversations? You know, like, talk to each other?

YES!  There will be lots and lots and lots of that.  :D

Even some spreadsheet talk!  :P
GAMES??? I am not talking or learning about spreadsheets. I'm just playing games until I look like the after in a drugs age you campaign. I don't even know what games. Just games.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 23, 2016, 02:28:17 AM
GAMES??? I am not talking or learning about spreadsheets. I'm just playing games until I look like the after in a drugs age you campaign. I don't even know what games. Just games.

My kinda people!  :D
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 23, 2016, 06:11:23 AM
All this chatter is fun, and I also have Axis and allies, so we could bring it - I've only played it once, the strategy was fun, the game took FOR-EV-ER!!! (I won)

We have 3 tickets left in presale. Just a reminder in case everyone thought we'd sold out. It would be nice to see them go. If you haven't put CMC2017 in your signature, I encourage you to link back to the thread.

If the tix don't go, I am not distressed. We have enough folks coming that I can float what is left of the deposit on the venue.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 23, 2016, 06:42:45 AM
I'm retired.  Do I need to do all this financial spreadsheet stuff?  I do spreadsheets to track investment income, but not on any sort of regular basis or structure.  I do love spreadsheets in their proper place, so much easier to calculate grades with a spread sheet than a grade book.

I'll happily sit by the fire and chat.  Or a quiet crib game instead of some 10 person rowdy board game (I don't know those games anyway, and would be playing a bunch of game sharks).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 23, 2016, 08:08:42 AM
Last night I played with numbers on the spreadsheet. The only fixed costs that I have to work from right now are the cost of bunks, so I am forced to estimate the rest. I have a good handle on meals based on last summer's catering menu, but that is subject to change. Other things (supplies, shirts, nametags, etc.) are based on prices supplied by the Seattle CM or Momma and my local experience with events for Scouting/Cadets/Guiding.

My current projection puts us at $235 PP using only the 17 spots that are taken. I am crystal balling for a year from now, and there will be 3X as many attendees, so many costs will go down (economies of scale). For me, the biggest question is with the catering budget.

In any case that is your budget update. For folks who are sitting on the fence waiting for a better handle on costs, I won't be able to nail down the budget until January at the very nutty earliest (ie. don't count on it), but this at least gives a starting point.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 23, 2016, 08:41:03 AM
Do you have anyone doing Canadian tax planning?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 23, 2016, 08:43:07 AM
Do you have anyone doing Canadian tax planning?

Not yet - but I'd welcome it!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on November 23, 2016, 12:12:17 PM
Did you advertise in the Ottawa and TO meetup groups?  Facebook Mustachian groups?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 23, 2016, 12:39:20 PM
Did you advertise in the Ottawa and TO meetup groups?  Facebook Mustachian groups?

Bubbles are bubbling. I'm not concerned with those spots, in fact I am quite confident that they will fill in time. A number of emails have hit my inbox that make this more and more interesting by the hour.

I may even have to wear a tie or something. Sadly, nothing is in a state for an announcement just yet...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 23, 2016, 01:44:57 PM
Did you advertise in the Ottawa and TO meetup groups?  Facebook Mustachian groups?

Does he need to?  Camp Mustache is stickied to the top of the page, which is great notice.  Plus it looks like a lot of us "know" each other anyone from the Journals.  So there is lots of Journal advertising.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 23, 2016, 02:05:23 PM
CRAP ON A CRACKER!

RE:TRANSMITTING $50CAD FROM US TO CANADA

OK as an FYI to other non-Canadians here are all the payment methods that have been quasi-stymied to date:
1. Email money transfer - I can do this within the US, but not to Canada
2. International Money Order via USPS - they'll fill out the form, pick Canada as the country, but cannot tell me whether $50 is US or CAD. So, I will get charged $50US + $4.75 fee, and Prosps may cash it for $59CAD upon receipt in CA, or $50US - there is no way of knowing.
3. I can apparently go to my bank and get $50CAD in cash - and then mail to Prosps - seriously, sending cash through the mail.

this is so ridiculous!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 23, 2016, 02:06:44 PM
CRAP ON A CRACKER!

RE:TRANSMITTING $50CAD FROM US TO CANADA

OK as an FYI to other non-Canadians here are all the payment methods that have been quasi-stymied to date:
1. Email money transfer - I can do this within the US, but not to Canada
2. International Money Order via USPS - they'll fill out the form, pick Canada as the country, but cannot tell me whether $50 is US or CAD. So, I will get charged $50US + $4.75 fee, and Prosps may cash it for $59CAD upon receipt in CA, or $50US - there is no way of knowing.
3. I can apparently go to my bank and get $50CAD in cash - and then mail to Prosps - seriously, sending cash through the mail.

this is so ridiculous!



Are others having similar issues down there?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 23, 2016, 02:09:02 PM
CRAP ON A CRACKER!

RE:TRANSMITTING $50CAD FROM US TO CANADA

OK as an FYI to other non-Canadians here are all the payment methods that have been quasi-stymied to date:
1. Email money transfer - I can do this within the US, but not to Canada
2. International Money Order via USPS - they'll fill out the form, pick Canada as the country, but cannot tell me whether $50 is US or CAD. So, I will get charged $50US + $4.75 fee, and Prosps may cash it for $59CAD upon receipt in CA, or $50US - there is no way of knowing.
3. I can apparently go to my bank and get $50CAD in cash - and then mail to Prosps - seriously, sending cash through the mail.

this is so ridiculous!

Try Western Union.

I believe there are huge fees - but I'll confirm that....
If I go to the main office of my bank (I was at a sattelite office) - I can tap into more expertise.....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 23, 2016, 03:09:15 PM
When I bought indigo seeds from a lady in the US we used PayPal transfer between friends.

Refraining from surprised unhappy comments about getting money out of the US in a seemly fashion.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FIFoFum on November 23, 2016, 03:41:48 PM
CRAP ON A CRACKER!

RE:TRANSMITTING $50CAD FROM US TO CANADA

OK as an FYI to other non-Canadians here are all the payment methods that have been quasi-stymied to date:
1. Email money transfer - I can do this within the US, but not to Canada
2. International Money Order via USPS - they'll fill out the form, pick Canada as the country, but cannot tell me whether $50 is US or CAD. So, I will get charged $50US + $4.75 fee, and Prosps may cash it for $59CAD upon receipt in CA, or $50US - there is no way of knowing.
3. I can apparently go to my bank and get $50CAD in cash - and then mail to Prosps - seriously, sending cash through the mail.

this is so ridiculous!

My understanding was that I can just write a check (on a US bank account) for $50 and when it is cashed in Canada (as a cheque), it will deduct $50CAD at the exchange rate of that day. Maybe the exchange rate won't be the best I could do, but it's easier than paying for other methods of transfer or headaches.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le North Dreamer on November 23, 2016, 04:26:06 PM
Mustachian from Montreal (lovely accent) interested and posting to follow.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 23, 2016, 05:24:49 PM
CRAP ON A CRACKER!

RE:TRANSMITTING $50CAD FROM US TO CANADA

OK as an FYI to other non-Canadians here are all the payment methods that have been quasi-stymied to date:
1. Email money transfer - I can do this within the US, but not to Canada
2. International Money Order via USPS - they'll fill out the form, pick Canada as the country, but cannot tell me whether $50 is US or CAD. So, I will get charged $50US + $4.75 fee, and Prosps may cash it for $59CAD upon receipt in CA, or $50US - there is no way of knowing.
3. I can apparently go to my bank and get $50CAD in cash - and then mail to Prosps - seriously, sending cash through the mail.

this is so ridiculous!

My understanding was that I can just write a check (on a US bank account) for $50 and when it is cashed in Canada (as a cheque), it will deduct $50CAD at the exchange rate of that day. Maybe the exchange rate won't be the best I could do, but it's easier than paying for other methods of transfer or headaches.

9 times in 10, this works. Better yet, put CAD after the $50.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 23, 2016, 05:31:25 PM
My understanding was that I can just write a check (on a US bank account) for $50 and when it is cashed in Canada (as a cheque), it will deduct $50CAD at the exchange rate of that day. Maybe the exchange rate won't be the best I could do, but it's easier than paying for other methods of transfer or headaches.

I'd make sure to note on the check (in the amount box, the written line, and the memo) that it's $50 CAD.

But yes, this should work.
Title: Camp Mustache Canada - What a great idea!
Post by: avrex on November 23, 2016, 07:00:49 PM
I've been away from the forum for a bit.
However, once I logged back on, this thread immediately caught my eye.

@Prospector, you're doing a great job in organizing this.  Thank you.

I'll send you an email shortly, as I'm very interested in attending.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 23, 2016, 07:33:50 PM
Avrex!! So awesome to see you!! I'll watch for that email!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 23, 2016, 07:48:18 PM
CRAP ON A CRACKER!

RE:TRANSMITTING $50CAD FROM US TO CANADA

OK as an FYI to other non-Canadians here are all the payment methods that have been quasi-stymied to date:
1. Email money transfer - I can do this within the US, but not to Canada
2. International Money Order via USPS - they'll fill out the form, pick Canada as the country, but cannot tell me whether $50 is US or CAD. So, I will get charged $50US + $4.75 fee, and Prosps may cash it for $59CAD upon receipt in CA, or $50US - there is no way of knowing.
3. I can apparently go to my bank and get $50CAD in cash - and then mail to Prosps - seriously, sending cash through the mail.

this is so ridiculous!
I don't know if I'm just wild and reckless, but I'm mailing cash. And prosp might accept us money? Many of our stores take it at assorted made up exchange rates.

You ARE wild and reckless. But you can trust me!

I was never clear on whether you weren't supposed to mail cash because the mailman would swipe it or because the receiver might. Or maybe both? Dunno.

In any case, I go check the mail on Friday. Late at night. Whoever has reached me by then gets added to my spreadsheet on Sunday when I am back at a PC. I'll let you know when you are on the list.

Also, I now need to set up some sort of a Christmas card judging contest, and I haven't even updated the Vendee Globe pool yet (those guys are nearly around cape horn now, 3 boats have dropped out, and the leader has a broken foil.) SESailor is winning the pool right now, and I'm in second.

At current exchange rates, $50 USD is about $67 CDN. If you just mail USD, I won't complain.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 23, 2016, 09:27:25 PM
Another spot nabbed just now... we are down to 2 remaining bunks in the presale.

Our latest buyer also posts on the Canada Money Forum - he may be familiar with some of our tentative speakers from their posts over there. Exciting stuff.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on November 23, 2016, 10:41:22 PM
CRAP ON A CRACKER!

RE:TRANSMITTING $50CAD FROM US TO CANADA

OK as an FYI to other non-Canadians here are all the payment methods that have been quasi-stymied to date:
1. Email money transfer - I can do this within the US, but not to Canada
2. International Money Order via USPS - they'll fill out the form, pick Canada as the country, but cannot tell me whether $50 is US or CAD. So, I will get charged $50US + $4.75 fee, and Prosps may cash it for $59CAD upon receipt in CA, or $50US - there is no way of knowing.
3. I can apparently go to my bank and get $50CAD in cash - and then mail to Prosps - seriously, sending cash through the mail.

this is so ridiculous!
I don't know if I'm just wild and reckless, but I'm mailing cash. And prosp might accept us money? Many of our stores take it at assorted made up exchange rates.

Are you all sure about the check thing? I've gotten US checks and I'm fairly sure they were taken as US value by the Canadian bank, with fees tacked on everywhere. Generally and sadly, I think either paypal or mailing cash might be the easiest / least fee option.

Otherwise, has anyone tried this outfit: http://www.xe.com/xemoneytransfer/ca/
I have no association or experience with that service, but have used their trade service to exchange currencies between my own bank accounts in different countries with good experience. This looks like similar service, but for sending money to different people..
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 23, 2016, 10:55:32 PM
Does it depend on the bank? I went to a reunion in Canada with college friends, organized by a Canadian classmate. Because of the fees involved in money orders and other options, we all ended up sending her checks in US currency, which she deposited, no problem, no fees. She used the currency conversion difference to buy wine for the weekend.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 23, 2016, 11:08:59 PM
When I've received American cheques in USD I've just deposited it and the bank converts it at their (crappy) rate to CAD. 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 24, 2016, 12:52:29 AM



Are you all sure about the check thing? I've gotten US checks and I'm fairly sure they were taken as US value by the Canadian bank, with fees tacked on everywhere.

When I've received American cheques in USD I've just deposited it and the bank converts it at their (crappy) rate to CAD.

You have to write CAD on it.

Otherwise, yes, it's treated as USD, and converted.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 24, 2016, 05:08:32 AM
CAMP MUSTACHE PRESALE IS SOLD OUT!!!

PLEASE WATCH FOR OUR NEXT BLOCK OF TICKETS TO COME AVAILABLE IN FEBRUARY
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 24, 2016, 05:14:11 AM
CAMP MUSTACHE PRESALE IS SOLD OUT!!!

PLEASE WATCH FOR OUR NEXT BLOCK OF TICKETS TO COME AVAILABLE IN FEBRUARY

Excellent
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 24, 2016, 05:33:24 AM
Considering that the model of CM is for 50 attendees and 10 speakers, I find it quite impressive that we have already filled most of our speaking roles and almost half of our bunks. Its refreshing to see the excitement.

Now I need to find some ladies who are willing to step up in speaking roles. The slate right now is dude-heavy. I'd LOVE to see some ladies step in for a few presentations. Lets smash some stereotypes! I only have 2 speaking slots left right now, and then I'll be looking for standby speakers.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: KMMK on November 24, 2016, 06:41:19 AM
Ugh, I don't have enough money right now to attend (or speak) though I'd like to attend. I'm thinking if my situation improves maybe I'll slip in on someone's cancelation last minute but who knows?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 24, 2016, 06:43:54 AM
Ugh, I don't have enough money right now to attend (or speak) though I'd like to attend. I'm thinking if my situation improves maybe I'll slip in on someone's cancelation last minute but who knows?

Don't sweat it! There will be another block of tickets come available in February, you still have time to rack up miles etc.

I think(not sure) that if you get the World Elite Master Card, the sign on bonus has enough miles to get you a round trip ticket from just about anyplace in Canada to YTO. If the airfare is your challenge, look into that.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: lostamonkey on November 24, 2016, 07:25:30 AM
Ugh, I don't have enough money right now to attend (or speak) though I'd like to attend. I'm thinking if my situation improves maybe I'll slip in on someone's cancelation last minute but who knows?

You can get cheap flight tickets from Edmonton to Hamilton on New Leaf airlines. I am also considering driving from Edmonton to Toronto. That would take a few days.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: KMMK on November 24, 2016, 08:18:37 AM
Ugh, I don't have enough money right now to attend (or speak) though I'd like to attend. I'm thinking if my situation improves maybe I'll slip in on someone's cancelation last minute but who knows?

You can get cheap flight tickets from Edmonton to Hamilton on New Leaf airlines. I am also considering driving from Edmonton to Toronto. That would take a few days.

Interesting. I haven't heard of New Leaf. I'll check it out. I hate driving and the rare times I drove from Edm to Wpg or back were terrible. It's more than twice that to get all the way to Toronto, so driving won't be for me. (I'd drive if I was going super slow and took a week or so maybe.)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: KMMK on November 24, 2016, 08:20:31 AM
Ugh, I don't have enough money right now to attend (or speak) though I'd like to attend. I'm thinking if my situation improves maybe I'll slip in on someone's cancelation last minute but who knows?

Don't sweat it! There will be another block of tickets come available in February, you still have time to rack up miles etc.

I think(not sure) that if you get the World Elite Master Card, the sign on bonus has enough miles to get you a round trip ticket from just about anyplace in Canada to YTO. If the airfare is your challenge, look into that.

I will look into the credit card. Thanks!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 24, 2016, 01:48:12 PM
Not to minimize our Camp Mustache, but what happened with Camp Mustache Forever in BC?  Is there a site up?  I need an excuse to go there this summer.  ;-)  I miss VI.  :-(
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 24, 2016, 05:34:23 PM
Not to minimize our Camp Mustache, but what happened with Camp Mustache Forever in BC?  Is there a site up?  I need an excuse to go there this summer.  ;-)  I miss VI.  :-(
This is still pending.

It's very different than the two day CMC in this thread, it's two months, and most people will sign up for a week slot.

Don't let either one deter you from the other, they're very different formats and purposes and sizes. :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 24, 2016, 06:00:06 PM
Not to minimize our Camp Mustache, but what happened with Camp Mustache Forever in BC?  Is there a site up?  I need an excuse to go there this summer.  ;-)  I miss VI.  :-(
This is still pending.

It's very different than the two day CMC in this thread, it's two months, and most people will sign up for a week slot.

Don't let either one deter you from the other, they're very different formats and purposes and sizes. :)

Oh I want to do both - different locales, different formats, etc., and a chance to see my VI MMM friends.  I was just wondering what the status was.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 25, 2016, 07:52:26 AM
I've been playing with schedules... Its fun and I like playing with this stuff. Leave me alone. I know we are still a year away and the 15 minutes between speakers could be changed to 10. I don't care. Shut up.

Right now I have things officially starting at noon on Friday and running until 6:00 PM Sunday. Thought this nugget might help those who are shopping flights. 10:00 AM through to noon on Friday is scheduled as "check in-arrival" time.

If any local/semi local helpers are able to be at the venue by 09h00 to help with setup, that would be supercool. Also, anyone who is looking at a flight a day or so early, my family has room in our house for bodies, but you will be woken up frickin' early on Friday AM to drive to the camp and will be enlisted in the setup crew.

We can take 7 ppl between our car and minivan, but some spots will be squishy. If we get demand for more than 7, we will rent a van and have riders split costs. Basically what I am saying is that if Wednesday/Thursday flights are cheap... go for it and we will put you up. Somehow. GO Train service from Toronto airports to our home is excellent, we have a spare bed, an inflatable bed, and tonnes of camping gear/couches/etc.

Connectivity from Buffalo to chez Prospero sux. If you can find a way to link BUF to the GO train, you're in luck. I've never tried. Our town is on the Lakeshore line, and our home is a few km from the GO station. Since all things GO link to the Lakeshore line, if you can get to it, Bob's your uncle.

No idea how many folks are already hitting long-term airfare deals.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 25, 2016, 09:06:19 AM
Those dates are not yet available for scheduling on some airlines. That should change in the next two weeks.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 25, 2016, 09:40:12 AM
No problem - at this point its all just fun with spreadsheets anyway.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: NinetyFour on November 25, 2016, 03:01:09 PM
Following.  Thinking about it.  Missed the sale this week as I was out in the desert.

Sorry, but what airport should I fly into?  Toronto?  Hamilton?  Saskatoon?  Vulcan?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 25, 2016, 03:06:36 PM
If you can get into Hamilton, it is the Holy Grail. Toronto or Buffalo are about the same drive to the camp, but Toronto will put you on public transit and Buffalo will force you to rent a car.

Of course if a bunch of folks wheel into buffalo on the same arrival, an airport car or rental split 3 or ways won't be terrible (I think).

I am about to head up to the barnhouse... Can't wait to see what's in the mailbox.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 25, 2016, 03:38:47 PM
Following.  Thinking about it.  Missed the sale this week as I was out in the desert.

Sorry, but what airport should I fly into?  Toronto?  Hamilton?  Saskatoon?  Vulcan?

Des Moines or Chicago - then ride the rest of the way with me!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on November 25, 2016, 04:04:34 PM
If you can get into Hamilton, it is the Holy Grail.

Also true in NYC.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 25, 2016, 04:05:51 PM
If you can get into Hamilton, it is the Holy Grail.

Also true in NYC.

Not if you are Mike Pence!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 25, 2016, 04:59:12 PM
As an ignorant Canadian... I don't get the Hamilton reference. And I'm not trying.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 25, 2016, 05:13:30 PM
As an ignorant Canadian... I don't get the Hamilton reference. And I'm not trying.

The Broadway play, almost impossible to get tickets - won just about all of the Tony awards.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 25, 2016, 06:16:28 PM
If you can get into Hamilton, it is the Holy Grail.

Also true in NYC.

I appreciate your wit.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 25, 2016, 06:43:51 PM
If you can get into Hamilton, it is the Holy Grail.

Also true in NYC.

I appreciate your wit.

I just got it now.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Jschange on November 25, 2016, 07:45:44 PM
I've been playing with schedules... Its fun and I like playing with this stuff. Leave me alone. I know we are still a year away and the 15 minutes between speakers could be changed to 10. I don't care. Shut up.

Right now I have things officially starting at noon on Friday and running until 6:00 PM Sunday. Thought this nugget might help those who are shopping flights. 10:00 AM through to noon on Friday is scheduled as "check in-arrival" time.

If any local/semi local helpers are able to be at the venue by 09h00 to help with setup, that would be supercool. Also, anyone who is looking at a flight a day or so early, my family has room in our house for bodies, but you will be woken up frickin' early on Friday AM to drive to the camp and will be enlisted in the setup crew.

We can take 7 ppl between our car and minivan, but some spots will be squishy. If we get demand for more than 7, we will rent a van and have riders split costs. Basically what I am saying is that if Wednesday/Thursday flights are cheap... go for it and we will put you up. Somehow. GO Train service from Toronto airports to our home is excellent, we have a spare bed, an inflatable bed, and tonnes of camping gear/couches/etc.

Connectivity from Buffalo to chez Prospero sux. If you can find a way to link BUF to the GO train, you're in luck. I've never tried. Our town is on the Lakeshore line, and our home is a few km from the GO station. Since all things GO link to the Lakeshore line, if you can get to it, Bob's your uncle.

No idea how many folks are already hitting long-term airfare deals.
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Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 25, 2016, 08:20:49 PM
I've been playing with schedules... Its fun and I like playing with this stuff. Leave me alone. I know we are still a year away and the 15 minutes between speakers could be changed to 10. I don't care. Shut up.

Right now I have things officially starting at noon on Friday and running until 6:00 PM Sunday. Thought this nugget might help those who are shopping flights. 10:00 AM through to noon on Friday is scheduled as "check in-arrival" time.

If any local/semi local helpers are able to be at the venue by 09h00 to help with setup, that would be supercool. Also, anyone who is looking at a flight a day or so early, my family has room in our house for bodies, but you will be woken up frickin' early on Friday AM to drive to the camp and will be enlisted in the setup crew.

We can take 7 ppl between our car and minivan, but some spots will be squishy. If we get demand for more than 7, we will rent a van and have riders split costs. Basically what I am saying is that if Wednesday/Thursday flights are cheap... go for it and we will put you up. Somehow. GO Train service from Toronto airports to our home is excellent, we have a spare bed, an inflatable bed, and tonnes of camping gear/couches/etc.

Connectivity from Buffalo to chez Prospero sux. If you can find a way to link BUF to the GO train, you're in luck. I've never tried. Our town is on the Lakeshore line, and our home is a few km from the GO station. Since all things GO link to the Lakeshore line, if you can get to it, Bob's your uncle.

No idea how many folks are already hitting long-term airfare deals.
I want anyone considering this to be very very aware that it is a healthy 3 hour drive from Prospector's house to the venue. He will be making you leave by 530 or 6 am OR is a dangerous driver.
We get up early anyway
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 25, 2016, 09:29:23 PM
I'm at the barnhouse. Alas, there was no Mustache Mail. This saddens me greatly. Maybe next week.

Also, the idea that a dude who makes his living in traffic safety drives recklessly is unheard of. I'm a set it at 110kmh and enjoy the ride kind of a guy.

Yes it will be an early morning. But then we'll arrive at camp with 3 hours to snooze.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 25, 2016, 09:35:23 PM
Probably everyone is like me, trying to work out exactly how to pay. Now that has been sorted (personal cheque, marked $CAD) it will be sent pronto!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 25, 2016, 09:53:54 PM
Is Gdog alone in struggling with banking? Should I try to set up a bank account and a PayPal dedicated to the event?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 25, 2016, 10:04:27 PM
US holiday will slow the mail.

I'm not likely to use PayPal, well, maybe... I kind of hate them irrationally.....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 25, 2016, 11:07:40 PM
I'm at the barnhouse. Alas, there was no Mustache Mail. This saddens me greatly. Maybe next week.

Mine went in the mail Thursday night.  Next Friday there will be Mustache Mail for sure!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 26, 2016, 01:29:53 AM
US holiday will slow the mail.

I'm not likely to use PayPal, well, maybe... I kind of hate them irrationally.....
I hate them rationally. If I use PAYPAL to buy something from the US it charges me more to convert than anything else I have used online.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Stashasaurus on November 26, 2016, 08:28:26 AM
I'm at the barnhouse. Alas, there was no Mustache Mail. This saddens me greatly. Maybe next week.

My cheque hit the mailbox on Wednesday, you should see it next week Prospector.

Do you have a topic list for the sessions? I am a little curious. Just want to get a head start on research.

Unless Newleaf comes back to Regina in 2017 it looks like I will be flying in on the Thursday late via Calgary. If your offer for labour for couch/floor/sleeping space is still available I would be interested.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 26, 2016, 10:02:29 AM
I'm at the barnhouse. Alas, there was no Mustache Mail. This saddens me greatly. Maybe next week.

My cheque hit the mailbox on Wednesday, you should see it next week Prospector.

Do you have a topic list for the sessions? I am a little curious. Just want to get a head start on research.

Unless Newleaf comes back to Regina in 2017 it looks like I will be flying in on the Thursday late via Calgary. If your offer for labour for couch/floor/sleeping space is still available I would be interested.

No trouble with sleeping space. I'll be posting speakers monthly. As of now, I have 3 speaking slots and one morning exercise leader spot open. I'd really like more female speakers if any are available.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 26, 2016, 11:30:08 AM
Do we have many singles coming? If so, MJ needs to lead a group on dating.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 26, 2016, 07:30:04 PM
I've been playing with schedules... Its fun and I like playing with this stuff. Leave me alone. I know we are still a year away and the 15 minutes between speakers could be changed to 10. I don't care. Shut up.

Right now I have things officially starting at noon on Friday and running until 6:00 PM Sunday. Thought this nugget might help those who are shopping flights. 10:00 AM through to noon on Friday is scheduled as "check in-arrival" time.

If any local/semi local helpers are able to be at the venue by 09h00 to help with setup, that would be supercool. Also, anyone who is looking at a flight a day or so early, my family has room in our house for bodies, but you will be woken up frickin' early on Friday AM to drive to the camp and will be enlisted in the setup crew.

We can take 7 ppl between our car and minivan, but some spots will be squishy. If we get demand for more than 7, we will rent a van and have riders split costs. Basically what I am saying is that if Wednesday/Thursday flights are cheap... go for it and we will put you up. Somehow. GO Train service from Toronto airports to our home is excellent, we have a spare bed, an inflatable bed, and tonnes of camping gear/couches/etc.

Connectivity from Buffalo to chez Prospero sux. If you can find a way to link BUF to the GO train, you're in luck. I've never tried. Our town is on the Lakeshore line, and our home is a few km from the GO station. Since all things GO link to the Lakeshore line, if you can get to it, Bob's your uncle.

No idea how many folks are already hitting long-term airfare deals.
I want anyone considering this to be very very aware that it is a healthy 3 hour drive from Prospector's house to the venue. He will be making you leave by 530 or 6 am OR is a dangerous driver.

I have spent a great deal of time trying to figure out how LFG figured it would take me three hours to drive to Brantford. I even tried Google mapping a variety of silly rough options that no sane Traffic dude would drive. Then today it struck me. LFG thinks I live in my investment property where everyone is sending their cheques.

For everyone's peace of mind... the barnhouse is a good hour and a half east of the Frosthaus. We live in the Frosthaus, which Google puts at a 2 hour drive from Camp Mustache.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 26, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
Do we have many singles coming? If so, MJ needs to lead a group on dating.

She is an expert on the subject matter. Unfortunately she has already expressed her position so far as a speaking role goes. I know you are disappointed.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 26, 2016, 07:39:02 PM
Okay, if you need girls, I can lead a group discussion on global macroeconomic trends and investing.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 26, 2016, 07:50:12 PM
Okay, if you need girls, I can lead a group discussion on global macroeconomic trends and investing.

Srsly? Or are you kidding? Cause I would love to put that on the schedule.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on November 26, 2016, 08:10:14 PM
What sorts of things have you got on the schedule already, and what sorts of things are you looking for?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 26, 2016, 08:36:01 PM
Okay, if you need girls, I can lead a group discussion on global macroeconomic trends and investing.

Srsly? Or are you kidding? Cause I would love to put that on the schedule.

Sure.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 26, 2016, 08:37:31 PM
What sorts of things have you got on the schedule already, and what sorts of things are you looking for?

We have lots of traditional financial /real estate investing, an AMA with an accountant, a speaker on life after FIRE, and a personal achievement advisor. We are lightweight on DIY, Bike stuff, food, gardening, etc. We also still have 11 months, so no rush/stress.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 26, 2016, 08:38:38 PM
Oh well, in that case, I'll do cheap decorating. Much more fun.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 26, 2016, 08:40:19 PM
Oh well, in that case, I'll do cheap decorating. Much more fun.

I'll PM you when I get to a real computer.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 26, 2016, 08:40:36 PM
Sure.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 26, 2016, 08:55:19 PM
Food? Gardening? I do those. -- what do you want to know?

Retired@63 - don't you do a lot of gardening?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Gerard on November 26, 2016, 10:20:11 PM
If people are flying into Buffalo and averse to renting a car, Megabus goes from the Buffalo airport to Toronto with stopovers in Niagara Falls (ont), St. Catharines, and Grimsby... any of those will let you transfer to a GO bus for Hamilton.

Or if you're a real glutton for punishment, you can take two Buffalo city buses to Niagara Falls, NY, then walk across the bridge and a further 20 minutes to the Niagara Falls (ont) GO station.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 26, 2016, 11:17:10 PM
Okay, if you need girls, I can lead a group discussion on global macroeconomic trends and investing.

Srsly? Or are you kidding? Cause I would love to put that on the schedule.

Sure.
Oh well, in that case, I'll do cheap decorating. Much more fun.

But I got all excited for the macroeconomics talk!  I will even cheerfully get up early for it!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 26, 2016, 11:39:03 PM
What sorts of things have you got on the schedule already, and what sorts of things are you looking for?
Ha hah!  Now the question I asked you and Ali at the Organ Pipes (if you led a CM session what would be the topic) is suddenly relevant!

Do you remember your answer?  ;)

Especially if Ali has to take my spot in some sort of gender affirmative action thing. 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 27, 2016, 12:14:21 AM
Okay, if you need girls, I can lead a group discussion on global macroeconomic trends and investing.

Srsly? Or are you kidding? Cause I would love to put that on the schedule.

Sure.
Oh well, in that case, I'll do cheap decorating. Much more fun.

But I got all excited for the macroeconomics talk!  I will even cheerfully get up early for it!

Well, I won't. I hate early mornings. And I prefer group discussions to "talks". I never think I'm the only person in the room with something interesting to say. Although I have been in one or two business meetings that proved me wrong
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 27, 2016, 06:55:06 AM
Food? Gardening? I do those. -- what do you want to know?

Retired@63 - don't you do a lot of gardening?

Yes but after seeing Backyardfeast's gardens I think I am a novice.  My gardening claim to fame is giving a talk on how to divide and replant peonies and daylilies at an international plowing match.  I had 2 men show up 20 minutes early to be sure they could get seats at the front.  ;-)   And Ed Lawrence told me I could cope with slowly pruning a tree back into shape (4 years later it needs one more year and it will be fine) because I am a patient enough gardener because I have raised peonies from seed.  ;-)  They are gorgeous, btw, and I could bring seeds.  We could do a seminar type thing, short presentation and then long question period/discussion time.  Or talk about organic gardening on the cheap, or beneficials, or starting things from seed (and especially, why bother).  Or all of the above.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 27, 2016, 07:00:29 AM
Food? Gardening? I do those. -- what do you want to know?

Retired@63 - don't you do a lot of gardening?

Yes but after seeing Backyardfeast's gardens I think I am a novice.  My gardening claim to fame is giving a talk on how to divide and replant peonies and daylilies at an international plowing match.  I had 2 men show up 20 minutes early to be sure they could get seats at the front.  ;-)   And Ed Lawrence told me I could cope with slowly pruning a tree back into shape (4 years later it needs one more year and it will be fine) because I am a patient enough gardener because I have raised peonies from seed.  ;-)  They are gorgeous, btw, and I could bring seeds.  We could do a seminar type thing, short presentation and then long question period/discussion time.  Or talk about organic gardening on the cheap, or beneficials, or starting things from seed (and especially, why bother).  Or all of the above.

Composting
Use all your growing seasons (spring, summer, fall plantings)
Gardening ROI - best crops
Preserving the harvest (food and gardening)

I am basically a novice too.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 27, 2016, 08:24:42 AM
Composting
Use all your growing seasons (spring, summer, fall plantings)
Gardening ROI - best crops
Preserving the harvest (food and gardening)

I am basically a novice too.
Composting - part of organic gardening, cheap gardening, basic gardening - definitely a worthwhile topic
ROI - so individual, but yes. And of course the really basic rule - if you don't like it, don't plant it!  Although some things are totally 1000x better from the garden so "don't like" may be "don't like from the store".
Preserving - my weak spot.  I mostly eat it as it comes.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 27, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Food? Gardening? I do those. -- what do you want to know?

Retired@63 - don't you do a lot of gardening?

Yes but after seeing Backyardfeast's gardens I think I am a novice.  My gardening claim to fame is giving a talk on how to divide and replant peonies and daylilies at an international plowing match.  I had 2 men show up 20 minutes early to be sure they could get seats at the front.  ;-)   And Ed Lawrence told me I could cope with slowly pruning a tree back into shape (4 years later it needs one more year and it will be fine) because I am a patient enough gardener because I have raised peonies from seed.  ;-)  They are gorgeous, btw, and I could bring seeds.  We could do a seminar type thing, short presentation and then long question period/discussion time.  Or talk about organic gardening on the cheap, or beneficials, or starting things from seed (and especially, why bother).  Or all of the above.

Composting
Use all your growing seasons (spring, summer, fall plantings)
Gardening ROI - best crops
Preserving the harvest (food and gardening)

I am basically a novice too.

Everyone is a novice gardener. Nature has been working at it for a bajillion years, and she's still perfecting it.

I recall a great gardener quoting Emerson?? I think...

"Adopt the pace of nature, her secret is patience." Really, that is the best advice you can give anyone with dirty hands and a packet of seeds.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 28, 2016, 05:35:55 AM
I want pbkmaine to do mustachian decorating please.  Although by the time Camp Mustache rolls around I hope to have sold my house (so my house staging decorating will be on her journal).

Do you want G-dog and me to do a gardening thing?  Officially as opposed to yakking at the dinner table.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 28, 2016, 06:15:07 AM
I want pbkmaine to do mustachian decorating please.  Although by the time Camp Mustache rolls around I hope to have sold my house (so my house staging decorating will be on her journal).

Do you want G-dog and me to do a gardening thing?  Officially as opposed to yakking at the dinner table.

Already had a gardener/homesteading discussion moderator step up. You gotta be quick!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Thegoblinchief on November 28, 2016, 06:42:06 AM
We will see how the next few months shape up for us financially but I think I'm out. Just don't think I'll be in a position to spend the money, but who knows.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 28, 2016, 07:05:49 AM
We will see how the next few months shape up for us financially but I think I'm out. Just don't think I'll be in a position to spend the money, but who knows.

Bummer.  =/

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 28, 2016, 07:13:40 AM
We will see how the next few months shape up for us financially but I think I'm out. Just don't think I'll be in a position to spend the money, but who knows.

I will drive up - Madison area would be generally on the way .....  Just a thought that take a plane ticket out of the equation.

Driving is 13 hr direct route, I'll check a Madison route. I have friends in Madison I could probably stay with, so I'll check the time from Madison.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 28, 2016, 07:28:06 AM
I want pbkmaine to do mustachian decorating please.  Although by the time Camp Mustache rolls around I hope to have sold my house (so my house staging decorating will be on her journal).

Do you want G-dog and me to do a gardening thing?  Officially as opposed to yakking at the dinner table.

Already had a gardener/homesteading discussion moderator step up. You gotta be quick!!

Great - although if I am in a townhouse by then my gardening interests may be on a much smaller scale.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 28, 2016, 07:28:25 AM
We will see how the next few months shape up for us financially but I think I'm out. Just don't think I'll be in a position to spend the money, but who knows.

Bummer.  =/

+1

I was really hoping you would make it out.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Thegoblinchief on November 28, 2016, 08:22:52 AM
We will see how the next few months shape up for us financially but I think I'm out. Just don't think I'll be in a position to spend the money, but who knows.

I will drive up - Madison area would be generally on the way .....  Just a thought that take a plane ticket out of the equation.

Driving is 13 hr direct route, I'll check a Madison route. I have friends in Madison I could probably stay with, so I'll check the time from Madison.

I'm in Milwaukee, which makes Chicago impossible to avoid driving, whereas I'm assuming you could mostly avoid it from Iowa. But PM me if it's something you'd consider doing when you look at it and then we could talk again when more tickets are being sold and I decide I can actually come.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 28, 2016, 08:39:54 AM
We will see how the next few months shape up for us financially but I think I'm out. Just don't think I'll be in a position to spend the money, but who knows.

I will drive up - Madison area would be generally on the way .....  Just a thought that take a plane ticket out of the equation.

Driving is 13 hr direct route, I'll check a Madison route. I have friends in Madison I could probably stay with, so I'll check the time from Madison.

I'm in Milwaukee, which makes Chicago impossible to avoid driving, whereas I'm assuming you could mostly avoid it from Iowa. But PM me if it's something you'd consider doing when you look at it and then we could talk again when more tickets are being sold and I decide I can actually come.

That may be better! Sorry about the wrong M-city in WI. Actually, that's probably better as I am approximately due east of Chicago! I can do a 13 hr drive on my own, but shorter is nicer. I'll PM.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on November 28, 2016, 11:24:43 AM
I want pbkmaine to do mustachian decorating please.  Although by the time Camp Mustache rolls around I hope to have sold my house (so my house staging decorating will be on her journal).

Do you want G-dog and me to do a gardening thing?  Officially as opposed to yakking at the dinner table.

Already had a gardener/homesteading discussion moderator step up. You gotta be quick!!

Is this the person I suggested?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 28, 2016, 11:37:20 AM
I want pbkmaine to do mustachian decorating please.  Although by the time Camp Mustache rolls around I hope to have sold my house (so my house staging decorating will be on her journal).

Do you want G-dog and me to do a gardening thing?  Officially as opposed to yakking at the dinner table.

Already had a gardener/homesteading discussion moderator step up. You gotta be quick!!

Is this the person I suggested?

Alas, it is not.

But you know what??? Its almost December 1th. That means I need to start doing speaker bios. First of the month every month, I'll introduce another speaker from our lineup. Some names will be familiar, some will not.

Also, my spreadsheet is up to 4 tabs all interconnected nicely and without any #ref or circular references. Yay!! But I do have a bunch of #NA errors in spots waiting to be filled. That will take care of itself with time.

On the speaking schedule there are two sad little spots waiting to be filled. Really though, the schedule is flexible enough that I can either erase them, or add more spots if needed. its all good!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Thegoblinchief on November 28, 2016, 03:49:47 PM
Okay, after talking with G-Dog about carpooling looks like I am in.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 28, 2016, 03:58:35 PM
Okay, after talking with G-Dog about carpooling looks like I am in.

BOOYAH!

Flyover zone representing y'all!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 28, 2016, 04:38:03 PM


On the speaking schedule there are two sad little spots waiting to be filled. Really though, the schedule is flexible enough that I can either erase them, or add more spots if needed. its all good!

I'd leave them flex.  Don't fill all so early, or you'll regret it when badass people sign up in a few months and you filled with lame-os just to get it filled now because of your excitement. 

Okay, after talking with G-Dog about carpooling looks like I am in.

Yay!  Looking forward to hanging out with you!

Thanks G-Dog! :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 28, 2016, 05:28:40 PM
Good idea, but so far no Lame-os. Only awsum mustachios.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 28, 2016, 05:30:34 PM
What about a "speed mustaching" session to help meet more people?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on November 28, 2016, 07:30:51 PM
ARS badgered me enough. I spoke with MXT, and I do believe we will be grabbing tickets in February.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 28, 2016, 07:34:59 PM
What about a "speed mustaching" session to help meet more people?

This would be an awesome icebreaker activity!! I have no idea how it would run.

Also we need to find a way to incorporate cards against humanity into it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 28, 2016, 07:35:44 PM
ARS badgered me enough. I spoke with MXT, and I do believe we will be grabbing tickets in February.

This just keeps getting better! Will you have a passport/border papers squared away in time?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on November 28, 2016, 07:38:01 PM
ARS badgered me enough. I spoke with MXT, and I do believe we will be grabbing tickets in February.

This just keeps getting better! Will you have a passport/border papers squared away in time?

Passport is already in hand, border papers will be started in December, so I should know for sure by the time February rolls around.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 28, 2016, 07:38:35 PM
What about a "speed mustaching" session to help meet more people?

This would be an awesome icebreaker activity!! I have no idea how it would run.

Also we need to find a way to incorporate cards against humanity into it.

Pick a card that describes your stash? (55 gal drum of lube. Sorry only card I can remember now besides MechanaHiltler).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 28, 2016, 07:38:45 PM
ARS badgered me enough. I spoke with MXT, and I do believe we will be grabbing tickets in February.

This just keeps getting better! Will you have a passport/border papers squared away in time?

Passport is already in hand, border papers will be started in December, so I should know for sure by the time February rolls around.

Perfect!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 28, 2016, 07:39:32 PM
Border papers? Do I need border papers?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on November 28, 2016, 07:42:13 PM
ARS badgered me enough. I spoke with MXT, and I do believe we will be grabbing tickets in February.

This just keeps getting better! Will you have a passport/border papers squared away in time?

Passport is already in hand, border papers will be started in December, so I should know for sure by the time February rolls around.

Perfect!

Freaking ARS texted me. He was like "Guess who's coming? MJ, TGC, and Prospector are all going to be there. That's like half the forum members you have a crush on." So I decided to read through the thread, talk with MXT, and move on from there.

Border papers? Do I need border papers?

No, I just happen to have a specific situation (that you already know about) that requires a bit of extra paperwork for me to get into Canada.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 28, 2016, 07:57:34 PM
You have a man crush on me bro??? Dude, I would chest bump you if we were in the same room. Totally honoured to be on the dudebro list.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/fLK0eUlYZoB6E/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on November 28, 2016, 08:03:02 PM
Well, at least now there won't be that awkward 'Do I shake his hand? High Five? Casual nod?' Chest bump. Perfect.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 28, 2016, 08:07:44 PM
So glad I will be there to see the chest bump!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 28, 2016, 08:40:22 PM
You know what's gonna happen? I'm gonna forget all about this comment, and then in October, JR is gonna come running up and knock me over and as I'm sprawled on the ground I will recall <Chest bump Jordan>  I may have to get this screen printed on the T-shirts so I don't forget.

Also, I'm bringing Saboteur for the card game sessions. I will declare everyone to be the saboteur. It will be fun. I will be wrong.



I've already had an ask about my place for temporary lodging and I am happy to oblidge. I think we can fit all of you into the meat freezer spare bedroom. BUT... as LFG kindly pointed out, I live about 2 hours east of the venue. If you are driving and your drive involves crossing the border at Niagara Falls or Detroit, you will have to drive through Toronto to reach my house, sleep for the night, then arise and drive through Toronto traffic to get to camp.

While I make my living off traffic and think it is wondrous, you may not. This decision should weigh heavily upon you.

Other things you should know about driving in Ontario...

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Chaplin on November 28, 2016, 08:56:45 PM
I only just found this thread. I travel to Ontario about once per year and it seems like it's usually in the range of October, November and December. It's a bit early for me to be able to commit, but if spots are still available a little closer to the event and I can make it, I would really like to be there.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on November 28, 2016, 09:17:48 PM
You know what's gonna happen? I'm gonna forget all about this comment, and then in October, JR is gonna come running up and knock me over and as I'm sprawled on the ground I will recall <Chest bump Jordan>  I may have to get this screen printed on the T-shirts so I don't forget.

That would be pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Thegoblinchief on November 29, 2016, 05:02:07 AM
Jordan, pretty sure your attendance requires biking in. Hope you have lots of vacation time :P
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 29, 2016, 07:20:14 AM
If you have preregistered for CMC, please PM me your forum username for secret reason that will become obvious.

I do not need any other personal info (name, email, etc.), just forum username.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on November 29, 2016, 07:56:51 AM
<_< >_>
Posting to follow!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 29, 2016, 08:15:44 AM
If you have preregistered for CMC, please PM me your forum username for secret reason that will become obvious.

I do not need any other personal info (name, email, etc.), just forum username.

Well half of us have publicly posted here we are signed up.

Oh right, must mail that cheque.  Not today, freezing rain, how lovely.  Joys of being retired, not driving in freezing rain.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 29, 2016, 08:19:17 AM
If you have preregistered for CMC, please PM me your forum username for secret reason that will become obvious.

I do not need any other personal info (name, email, etc.), just forum username.

Well half of us have publicly posted here we are signed up.

Yes, some did, but I don't want to go through nine pages of the thread, re-reading every post looking for that and trying to parse who actually signed up versus who just expressed interest, plus I'm sure some signed up, but didn't post. 

A PM also more easily lets me access necessary forum settings.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalFan on November 29, 2016, 09:35:27 AM

I've already had an ask about my place for temporary lodging and I am happy to oblidge. I think we can fit all of you into the meat freezer spare bedroom. BUT... as LFG kindly pointed out, I live about 2 hours east of the venue. If you are driving and your drive involves crossing the border at Niagara Falls or Detroit, you will have to drive through Toronto to reach my house, sleep for the night, then arise and drive through Toronto traffic to get to camp.

Depending on timing and whether or not I go (see below) we may be able to offer overnight to someone crossing in Detroit (we live not far from the border). I'm guessing a 3-hour drive from the venue but not sure.

Still not sure I'll be able to make it. I'd love to go but I'm not sure paying $1000 to drag DH and two v. young kids who have little interest in personal finance there is a smart move. Unless there are several kids and other spouses who could hang out together and have a great time while I attend some of the discussions. I may consider going solo. Haven't brought it up with DH yet.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 29, 2016, 12:56:40 PM
Still not sure I'll be able to make it. I'd love to go but I'm not sure paying $1000 to drag DH and two v. young kids who have little interest in personal finance there is a smart move. Unless there are several kids and other spouses who could hang out together and have a great time while I attend some of the discussions. I may consider going solo. Haven't brought it up with DH yet.

I'm going solo.  We may need to hire help for DH so two toddlers and possible eldercare aren't overwhelming for the three days I'll be gone, but that should cost less than three extra bunks at CMC.  Plus, then, I don't need to worry if they're bored/grumpy/feeling isolated, etc.

Oh right, must mail that cheque.  Not today, freezing rain, how lovely.  Joys of being retired, not driving in freezing rain.

You have to drive to mail a cheque?!  :( How about e-mail transfers?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 29, 2016, 04:43:35 PM
1. It has been an insane day. I spent much of it in the city in a conference. My mind is swimming.
2. I have received a number of PMs and items in threads that I need to reply to. If you don't have a reeply by tomorrow afternoon, please assume I missed your message and re-ping me.
3. Chaplin. You should really come!! It would be great to see you!
4. Travelling Biologist. I get it on the pricepoint. It is pricey for families.

I am currently working with a really good childcare provider to see about providing totcare for kids from 3 up. I can't make any guarantees right now on this, but if it happens it will be good. Sadly if we have to pay for care, I can't discount your child's fees. Our prices on this are already as low as I can get them.

I wish I had better news, but its better for me to be upfront than for you to make plans that don't work out. Please believe I am being as mustachy as I can without having people drive 13 hours(!!) for a crap weekend. If its a crap weekend I might be able to cut out food and other things, but I would be uncomfortable with that - even then you would'n see enough savings to make it worthwhile. If it is any consolation to you, my family is not being comped and we are having the exact same conversation. Momma may take the boys to a scouting weekend instead.

5. ARS - I will get you your requested info tomorrow. It is on my work computer.

6. Orvell - glad to have you along!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 29, 2016, 04:56:59 PM
Some interesting information today from the venue...

1. Meatball party may be doable. I am in talks with catering to see if they can make it happen.

2. they will allow outside food ONLY if the packaging is marked nut free from a nut free facility. nothing home made. In their words:

We do allow you to bring in outside food as long as it is in it’s original packaging and doesn’t contain nuts or have a “may contain nuts” warning. So things like pop, chips, marshmallows, graham crackers and some chocolate can often meet these guidelines. Home-made items and stuff from bulk food stores are not allowed due to the risk of contamination.

3. Adding an extra night for folks flying out on Monday sounds like it will be fine; however, breakfast will not be provided. In order to provide food they need a minimum of 30 ppl. I would be very surprised if 30 ppl want to stay for breakfast.

OK - time to go to the outdoorclub meeting.

Somehow between work and now I have managed to bake a cake, change tires on the van, get mom and J2 off to scouts, and now J1 and I are due at the club meeting. As I said in my last message... if I missed you, check in tomorrow. If I still missed you, please hit me up a second time. I haven't made it through all the PMs yet.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 29, 2016, 05:12:47 PM
Prospero - just repeating what has been said before - thanks for pulling this together. It's a ton of work, much more to do, and it is much appreciated.

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Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 29, 2016, 05:16:33 PM
If it is any consolation to you, my family is not being comped and we are having the exact same conversation. Momma may take the boys to a scouting weekend instead.

Wow, that's really unselfish of you! 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalFan on November 29, 2016, 05:24:13 PM
Just wanted to point out that I hope I wasn't coming across as complaining about the price. I think it is an amazing price for people interested in going, I would gladly pay even more just for myself. It's just that the total family price does add up, so going solo might make more sense for me. I've never slept away from my littles though.

You are doing a fantastic job putting this together!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 29, 2016, 05:55:04 PM
I think you should comp your family and divide the cost among all of us. It seems to me that's fair.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 29, 2016, 06:03:24 PM
I think you should comp your family and divide the cost among all of us. It seems to me that's fair.

I'd pitch in to a fund for your family, Prospector!

If you want them to come--a weekend away hanging with Mustachians without worrying about family duties might be fun, too.   ;)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Stashasaurus on November 29, 2016, 06:05:37 PM
I think you should comp your family and divide the cost among all of us. It seems to me that's fair.

I'd pitch in to a fund for your family, Prospector!

If you want them to come--a weekend away hanging with Mustachians without worrying about family duties might be fun, too.   ;)

I would also like to pitch in to comp Prospectors, and family ( if desired) weekend. Considering the time, effort, and money you are placing to make this event awesome. Let me repeat Awesome.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 29, 2016, 06:08:30 PM
I agree regarding comping the family Prospector for CMC. 

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on November 29, 2016, 06:16:56 PM
I think you should comp your family and divide the cost among all of us. It seems to me that's fair.

I'd pitch in to a fund for your family, Prospector!

If you want them to come--a weekend away hanging with Mustachians without worrying about family duties might be fun, too.   ;)

I would also like to pitch in to comp Prospectors, and family ( if desired) weekend. Considering the time, effort, and money you are placing to make this event awesome. Let me repeat Awesome.

Agree, Awesome and I'll kick in to cover Family Prospector.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 29, 2016, 07:37:25 PM
You guys are all awesome. I'm already comping me.  :)

Asking the forum to cover $800 of family fun seems a little backwards to me though. Not a level of imposition I am immediately comfortable with. Besides, we don't even know what Momma and the scouts are planning for next year. Too far away.

We can talk about this more on another night when I am less tired and have had a couple rum & cokes.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 29, 2016, 07:53:22 PM
Asking the forum to cover $800 of family fun seems a little backwards to me though. Not a level of imposition I am immediately comfortable with.

I can see that.

To put it in perspective though:
If everyone split it, we're talking $800 / 60 people = $13 apiece.  $13 out of a total of $250 cost (it'll probably be around there, even with the 13 in it?) = a 5% "overhead" fee for your efforts in organizing, planning, etc. it.  I don't think a 5% overhead fee for your efforts is unreasonable at all.

But I'll be quiet, for now.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on November 29, 2016, 07:55:24 PM
I was just about to say the same thing.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 29, 2016, 08:32:16 PM
That opinion is perfectly valid and justified.

I don't think anyone will think less of you for saying it, and I'm glad you feel comfortable enough to say it.

It being separate makes sense. A 5% overhead fee that Prospector can use however he wants (be that paying full price for his family to attend, or if they don't spending it on debt or retirement accounts or hookers and blow or whatever) definitely makes more logical sense than just comping family members.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 29, 2016, 08:44:57 PM
Jordan, pretty sure your attendance requires biking in. Hope you have lots of vacation time :P

Biking from here to Union Station is quite pleasant, but i think the ride from Aldershot GO to the venue would not be so thrilling. Of course if JR leaves Colorado now, he should be here with time to spare. heck, I don't think he REALLY has to head out until late August at the earliest.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 30, 2016, 07:39:48 AM
Upthread someone asked about topics/speakers.

I'll be posting speaker bio's monthly as we lead up to the camp, but as of right now, here are the topics being proposed. Note the TBD are placeholders for open speaking slots. Also, someone needs to convince Mr. Snow to come lead our morning exercise on day 3. Or a jogger needs to lead a group run, or something.:

DAY 1
Opening Session - Speaker 1 - Gen Finance
Opening Session - Speaker 2 - TBD

DAY 2
Fitness - Yoga
Keynote - Speaker 3 - ETF/Index investing
Breakout 1 - Speaker 4 -Landlording
Breakout 1 - Speaker 5 - Canadian Accounting Q&A
Breakout 2 - Speaker 6 - Post Fire Life
Breakout 2 - Speaker 7 - Real estate (Tentative, unconfirmed)
Breakout 3 - Speaker 8 - Mustachian Travel
Breakout 3 - Speaker 9 - Urban Homesteading

DAY 3
Fitness - TBD
Breakout 4 - Speaker 10 - Life Coaching
Breakout 4 - Speaker 11 - Home Maintenance/Gardening/Décor
Group Activity - Canoeing (TBD)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 30, 2016, 07:52:04 AM
Damn, that looks awesome.

A few of the breakout sessions I definitely know which one I want to attend, but most of them I'm really torn on which to attend.  Really eager to find out about the speakers for each--so many smart people on this site!  There'll be some tough choices to be made.  :)

EDIT: Will PM you some stuff.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 30, 2016, 08:59:14 AM
A couple cut-rate airlines you should look into for flights that don't show up in normal searches:

Hamilton - NewLeaf
Toronto - Porter
Buffalo - Allegiant

I've never used any of these - just heard of them as options.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on November 30, 2016, 09:31:10 AM
These are such interesting topics! It will be hard to choose...

Hopefully by the spring sale I'll have a better idea if I can make it. I'd probably fly to Buffalo on my free Southwest miles and take a bus to Niagara Falls before and spend a little time there, then take the other bus or train to Hamilton...following the suggestion from a poster above.

Will th is be peak fall colors viewing season?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on November 30, 2016, 09:32:26 AM
A couple cut-rate airlines you should look into for flights that don't show up in normal searches:

Buffalo - Allegiant

I've never used any of these - just heard of them as options.

I've used Allegiant many times.  Be careful when you check out, as they'll try to charge you for everything (picking a seat number, trip insurance, luggage, etc.), but if you can manage with just a carry-on, and say no to all the "extras" and don't care about luxuries, just price, it works great.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on November 30, 2016, 09:34:37 AM
Will th is be peak fall colors viewing season?

The leafs will likely have already dropped, but you never know. I was aiming for peak season, but we didn't book fast enough.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on November 30, 2016, 09:46:22 AM
Will th is be peak fall colors viewing season?

The leafs will likely have already dropped, but you never know. I was aiming for peak season, but we didn't book fast enough.

Thanks for the info. If I am truly FIRE'd by then I can show up a little earlier and see the colors in upstate NY or something.

I'm a Florida girl and really enjoy the fall colors...have to travel to see them!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 30, 2016, 10:02:48 AM
Oh right, must mail that cheque.  Not today, freezing rain, how lovely.  Joys of being retired, not driving in freezing rain.

You have to drive to mail a cheque?!  :( How about e-mail transfers?

Well, Prospector wants cheques, not transfers, and I am in the boonies - I think it is about 7km to the nearest post box.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on November 30, 2016, 10:11:34 AM
Oh right, must mail that cheque.  Not today, freezing rain, how lovely.  Joys of being retired, not driving in freezing rain.

You have to drive to mail a cheque?!  :( How about e-mail transfers?

Well, Prospector wants cheques, not transfers, and I am in the boonies - I think it is about 7km to the nearest post box.

Email transfers to the camp mustache email is fine - not an option for me because my US banks don't support. But it should be an option for those banking in CA.

If you have pre-registered and gave REBS your username - Check the OTHER section of the Forums.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on November 30, 2016, 10:32:50 AM
Oh right, must mail that cheque.  Not today, freezing rain, how lovely.  Joys of being retired, not driving in freezing rain.

You have to drive to mail a cheque?!  :( How about e-mail transfers?

Well, Prospector wants cheques, not transfers, and I am in the boonies - I think it is about 7km to the nearest post box.

Email transfers to the camp mustache email is fine - not an option for me because my US banks don't support. But it should be an option for those banking in CA.

If you have pre-registered and gave REBS your username - Check the OTHER section of the Forums.

I saw that after I wrote all this.  But Canada Post is fine, because I am going to do the Christmas Card thing - and I am turning into a hermit here with the dismal weather, I need to get out!
Title: Dan Bortolotti - ETF/Index investing
Post by: avrex on December 01, 2016, 12:55:10 AM
Prospector, first of all, I'd like to say great work.

I'm not sure if you have been able to  get Dan Bortolotti to visit us at our rustic cabins and present to us. 
But if you have, that would be terrific.

Dan Bortolotti of Canadian Couch Potato Fame just emailed me - he is interested in being part of this event and would like to be kept in the loop. Further he is willing to make a presentation. Exciting stuff.

I don't know Dan personally.  However, I've had the opportunity to hear him speak on three occasions.  Plus, I had the chance to talk to him briefly after one of his presentations.  Not only is he friendly and thoughtful (like most Canadians, lol), but he's also extremely knowledgeable.

One of the big tenets of Mustachianism is to reduce our costs and live below our means.

Many people don't realize how much they are paying in hidden investment costs. (i.e. high MER fees).  In fact, when you ignore these costs, you could end of working an additional 3-10 years longer than you need to (http://www.avrexmoney.com/investing/are-you-invested-in-mutual-funds-congratulations-youll-now-be-working-an-additional-3-years/).  Yes, investment costs make that much of a difference!

Dan will speak of and advocate for do-it-yourself, low-fee, passive investments (like ETFs).  This information is important for all Mustachians, to secure their financial future.

Camp Mustache Canada, is a camp for all Mustachians.  It just happens to be located in Canada.  I'm looking forward to meeting all of our American MMM cousins at this event.  However, I will say that I'm glad Dan will possibly be speaking at this event.  Why would we import a famous American blogger to speak about investing, when we already have one of our own, right here in Canada.  :)

Dan's thoughts sync up with the Bogle philosophy (which many USA/Canada investors are already aware of).  What he adds to this discussion, is a Canadian context. 
For example, he has a deep knowledge of the low-cost ETF solutions that are available to Canadians.

Looking over his blog over the years, he also describes uniquely Canadian issues, such as:
- Model ETF Portfolios for Canadians (http://canadiancouchpotato.com/model-portfolios-2/)
- Currency Conversion (via the Gambit, in order to purchase US based ETFs) (http://canadiancouchpotato.com/2013/12/03/norberts-gambit-the-complete-guide/)
- Foreign Withholding Taxes  (http://canadiancouchpotato.com/2016/07/11/foreign-withholding-taxes-revisited/)

I've written about some of these topics in the past on the Canadian money forum. 
However, Dan speaks and writes so much more eloquently than I ever could.  :)

To Canadian MMM forum members, I'll say this...

Prospector is putting together an excellent camp right here in our own backyard.   
Dan B. is just one more reason for attending this camp.

Just my thoughts, on this potential excellent speaker,
avrex


p.s.  Prospector, one further point as far as planning goes.  Besides Dan's allotted time to speak, I would also allow for plenty of Q&A time.  Or perhaps more importantly, some informal time for people to talk to Dan and ask questions.  Perhaps Dan should stay for dinner.  :)

(http://www.moneysense.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/pfm_GuidePortfolio_Aug2013-222x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on December 01, 2016, 02:49:29 AM
  • Our fuel is priced per litre. Right now it is at a very low price - only $0.95 per litre. Multiply that by four to get an approximate price per gallon ($4.00 per gal) Multiply that by 0.7 to convert to USD ($3.22 per Gal USD) or find an app or online calculator to do it for you.
By crikey only 97c/litre - I found some really really cheap petrol the other day and it was $1.13/litre - but it's currently between $1.24 and $1.43/litre where I've been.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 01, 2016, 04:43:56 AM
Oh yeah Deb... even more shocking to you... we have no venomous animals. None.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on December 01, 2016, 05:04:47 AM
Oh yeah Deb... even more shocking to you... we have no venomous animals. None.
He lies.  The Mississauga rattler is venomous.  And shy. And probably doesn't live where we are going.

The good news is, the mosquitoes should be just about over by late October (if we have some good hard frosts).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 01, 2016, 05:10:43 AM
Nope, it doesn't. And timber rattlers are extinct. We also have no sharks or crocs (except the shoes).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on December 01, 2016, 05:15:33 AM
  • Our fuel is priced per litre. Right now it is at a very low price - only $0.95 per litre. Multiply that by four to get an approximate price per gallon ($4.00 per gal) Multiply that by 0.7 to convert to USD ($3.22 per Gal USD) or find an app or online calculator to do it for you.
By crikey only 97c/litre - I found some really really cheap petrol the other day and it was $1.13/litre - but it's currently between $1.24 and $1.43/litre where I've been.

And in the US the median price right now is $2.153/gal, or $0.569/liter.

I posted this in the hopes there's a uniquely Australian phrase even stronger than "By crikey."  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on December 01, 2016, 05:54:05 AM
Oh yeah Deb... even more shocking to you... we have no venomous animals. None.
Since we have good antivenins, our snakes are very unlikely to kill you. Of course, they aren't the only venomous Australian native creatures, but they appear to be the ones you guys are afraid of. I was once attacked by blue bottles, and have never been is such pain before or since, and I have no interest in crocodiles.

I visited Canada and Alaska in April/June. I saw black bears, grizzlys and MOOSE. One place I stayed at had a staff member in hospital because multiple bones were broken by a moose trampling her the previous week. I walked up a stone glacier, and the next day saw a grizzly about 100 metres from where I had been walking. I also saw five lynx (which can also kill humans according to that reliable source, the internet). I hear that insects - black flies and mosquitoes are also notorious.

And you guys worry about small creatures with venom!

  • Our fuel is priced per litre. Right now it is at a very low price - only $0.95 per litre. Multiply that by four to get an approximate price per gallon ($4.00 per gal) Multiply that by 0.7 to convert to USD ($3.22 per Gal USD) or find an app or online calculator to do it for you.
By crikey only 97c/litre - I found some really really cheap petrol the other day and it was $1.13/litre - but it's currently between $1.24 and $1.43/litre where I've been.

And in the US the median price right now is $2.153/gal, or $0.569/liter.

I posted this in the hopes there's a uniquely Australian phrase even stronger than "By crikey."  :)
Yes, I got some petrol in Las Vegas and there was a guy from Ohio whinging about the petrol price (it is evidently much cheaper in Ohio). I couldn't believe it! I don't think he believed me about Australian prices.

I have been listening to a number of Australian folk songs today (I was trying to find the version of "I love a Sunburnt Country" we sang when I was a child), and there are lots of Australian phrases stronger than that, but Americans seem to have a lot less colourful language, so I moderate it when I am around you. I suspect that you have never listened to "Waltzing Matilda", but it came second (28% of the vote) when we were searching for a National Anthem - I cannot imagine that any other country would even vote for a song about a hobo settling in for the night by a pond, stealing a sheep, being caught, and committing suicide, as its National Anthem.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on December 01, 2016, 07:12:39 AM
Sounds like Waltzing Matilda may be a good US national anthem in a couple of years..... yes, I am not over it yet, I'm working on it... kind of (low info diet continues).

I paid $1.819/gal earlier this week at Costco.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on December 01, 2016, 07:20:44 AM
Since we have good antivenins, our snakes are very unlikely to kill you. Of course, they aren't the only venomous Australian native creatures, but they appear to be the ones you guys are afraid of. I was once attacked by blue bottles, and have never been is such pain before or since, and I have no interest in crocodiles.

I visited Canada and Alaska in April/June. I saw black bears, grizzlys and MOOSE. One place I stayed at had a staff member in hospital because multiple bones were broken by a moose trampling her the previous week. I walked up a stone glacier, and the next day saw a grizzly about 100 metres from where I had been walking. I also saw five lynx (which can also kill humans according to that reliable source, the internet). I hear that insects - black flies and mosquitoes are also notorious.

And you guys worry about small creatures with venom!

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Well Ontario has black bears, not grizzlies or polar bears, and while dangerous they are relatively less so.  Moose need respect.  Lynx are boreal.  Bobcats and the ever-elusive cougar are more likely.  But black flies, mosquitoes, deer flies and horse flies are the main contributors to the joys of indoor living.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on December 01, 2016, 07:53:13 PM
Massasauga rattler. Not Mississauga. Those are two different words, that ARS needs to learn how to say.

Oh boy.  Are you volunteering?  ;)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on December 01, 2016, 07:57:49 PM
Tee hee. Excuse me, but for the teensiest moment it sounded like prospector didn't know who would lead the canoe trip. Silly me, I must be mistaken?
</umbridge impression>

You are fooling no one, my friend.

LFG, I agree regarding canada geese. Those things are monsters.
Black bears, on the ther hand, are nothing. As a kid I hid up a tree and threw pine cones at them.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on December 01, 2016, 08:13:19 PM
U Waterloo has a goose problem so bad that a student made an app that gives you the best route to avoid them, or at least warn you so you can be prepared to raise your defenses on the way to class.  Spring nesting and baby season is apparently very, very bad.

Goose Watch (http://goose-watch.uwaterloo.ca/)  (locked until spring 2017)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on December 01, 2016, 08:20:03 PM
I was up a tree because it was fun and i was stupid. It could and should have ended badly, but it didn't. The bears' hurt expressions when they were getting pelted with pine cones from an unknown source were hilarious and made me feel like a bully.
I only did it twice.

A couple of years ago a goose attacked in a hardware store parking lot. I was walking with my little dude and this goose thought we were threatening its nest. It charged, and i stood my ground while little dude ran away. It whacked me on the head with its wing hard enough to leave a bruise. Geese are terrible and should be shot for delicious dinners.

Prosp, add a goose hunt to your little party? Foraging and wild food are mustachian, and killing Canada geese is a service to all.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on December 01, 2016, 10:27:40 PM
Well, you were talking before about dangerous Australian animals. The Australian magpie has been mentioned before in this forum. It is quite dangerous, even though it's not that big http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/police-refuse-to-shoot-magpie-which-attacked-schoolgirl-at-tweed-heads/story-e6freoof-1226131276731. During the few weeks that it has a nest, you had better watch out (one swooped on me in my backyard this year). We also have the Southern Cassowary. These two are 1 and 3 on the most dangerous birds list here http://listverse.com/2013/01/03/top-10-birds-most-likely-to-kill-you/ . I'm sure Canadian Geese are mild in comparison.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on December 02, 2016, 09:21:41 PM
Would I rather Prospector take a consulting fee, than order me a custom T-shirt? yes.

On that note, my preference leans towards less giveway stuff (towards none), I usually end up tossing it anyways.
Only my opinion, perhaps others like the free stuff.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on December 02, 2016, 09:31:29 PM
Would I rather Prospector take a consulting fee, than order me a custom T-shirt? yes.

On that note, my preference leans towards less giveway stuff (towards none), I usually end up tossing it anyways.
Only my opinion, perhaps others like the free stuff.
Hey, Expat, I see you're in my state!

I agree with you on the schwag.  Less is more.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on December 02, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
 I wonder if one of our artists would be willing to design a CMC t-shirt that we could then buy online, if we choose to?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 02, 2016, 10:10:00 PM
I wonder if one of our artists would be willing to design a CMC t-shirt that we could then buy online, if we choose to?

Miles ahead of you Mainey-poo. Miles of miles.

On the schwag note... what is an acceptable minimum? Current budget includes notepad, pen, ballcap, and shirt. I have solicited the local ec-dev/ tourism Dept. For stuff. Dunno if they listened.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on December 02, 2016, 10:47:03 PM
I wonder if one of our artists would be willing to design a CMC t-shirt that we could then buy online, if we choose to?

Miles ahead of you Mainey-poo. Miles of miles.

On the schwag note... what is an acceptable minimum? Current budget includes notepad, pen, ballcap, and shirt. I have solicited the local ec-dev/ tourism Dept. For stuff. Dunno if they listened.

The only thing I'd really want is the shirt.  Ballcaps don't provide adequate sun protection and we have pens and paper in abundance.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Jschange on December 02, 2016, 10:50:34 PM
Would I rather Prospector take a consulting fee, than order me a custom T-shirt? yes.

On that note, my preference leans towards less giveway stuff (towards none), I usually end up tossing it anyways.
Only my opinion, perhaps others like the free stuff.
Hey, Expat, I see you're in my state!

I agree with you on the schwag.  Less is more.
I keep pens.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on December 02, 2016, 10:59:13 PM
... while we're on the subject....

Here's some of the CMC logo ideas that didn't make the cut.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Jschange on December 02, 2016, 11:06:06 PM
Actually... I could be persuaded to wear the squirrel
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on December 02, 2016, 11:17:37 PM
Actually... I could be persuaded to wear the squirrel

From the teeth - beaver?  (Still wearable?)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on December 02, 2016, 11:20:44 PM
SWAG is usually surprisingly cheap, and provides a fun sense of comradery.  I don't like a lot of "stuff" usually, but in this case, I'm for it.

I have our CMIII pen right here, and we used our CM1 pen for years before I broke part of it.

Actually... I could be persuaded to wear the squirrel

I think it's a hedgehog, actually.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on December 02, 2016, 11:22:42 PM
beaver?  (Still wearable?)

Can't be. I don't think they'd set us up for such inappropriate jokes.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Stashasaurus on December 03, 2016, 04:30:54 AM
beaver?  (Still wearable?)

Can't be. I don't think they'd set us up for such inappropriate jokes.

For better or worse, Canada likes to show off the beaver.

http://canada.pch.gc.ca/eng/1444070816842 (http://canada.pch.gc.ca/eng/1444070816842)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 03, 2016, 05:25:24 AM
I didn't even know we had a national horse. Feeling the onset of a patriotic outburst.

For those wondering, I likely won't wander over to the mailbox until later this afternoon.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on December 03, 2016, 06:30:26 AM
You can see Canadian horses next summer if you wander down the road from the Barnhouse to Upper Canada Village.  Nice breed.

Swag - been to so many conferences, what swag have I liked?  Pens and paper and maybe a clipboard of some sort to have a firm writing surface (tables, or what, for our talks?), always handy, so happy to see they are on the list.  When I've been to ones without that and have produced my own pen and paper others have looked enviously at me.  I have two nice bags that I use all the time (proper bags, like book bags, with zippers and shoulder straps).  The variations on fabric grocery bags, well, not used so much.  T-shirts end up in the back of the bottom drawer, used only for gardening.  Ball caps (or visors) - nope.  Plus late October?  Any sun on our heads will be welcome, except while canoeing.

There are cycles - travel mugs were big for a while.  Not suggesting for us, I am sure we all have them.

I organized a conference once and it is surprising what you can get at amazingly good prices for conferences.  With logos.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on December 03, 2016, 06:49:17 AM
My preference is zero swag.

I think the squirrel is actually a crocodile.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on December 03, 2016, 01:20:19 PM
I also lean towards being happy with no swag for acceptable minimum.
In terms of usefulness of the stuff you mentioned, I'd lean towards excluding ballcap, and including notepad/pen & tshirt in that order. IMO
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 03, 2016, 01:21:09 PM
Headed to get mailbox now... let's see what the mail carrier brought!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 03, 2016, 01:29:07 PM
Oooh!! Coupons for Swiss Chalet!!


And a few envelopes...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on December 03, 2016, 01:42:57 PM
I like free shirts because it keeps me from having to buy gym shirts combined with reminding me of the experience when I wear it.  Notebook/pad and pen (bonus points for biodegradable (http://www.mapleleafpromotions.com/Personalized-Pens-Compo.html)) is probably a good idea in case people want to take notes/play hangman in the breakout sessions.  Everything else is soon-to-be trash.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 03, 2016, 02:11:27 PM
I may as well chime in as a participant. Not an organizer for this post.

1. I am balding. I wear ball caps all the time. I have many from regattas, trade shows, and conferences. I love them.

2. I use t-shirts as undershirts. I have many from sports events, and a few from vacations etc. I wear them until they get so many stains and holes that Momma makes me throw them out.

3. If I am given a pen, I have a compulsion to take it apart and play with the pieces. This can be embarrassing. Momma takes away the pens and gives me boring stick pens so I don't hurt anyone with errant Springs or smear ink everywhere.

4. Paper is useful. I write on it, then lose my notes. Then the kids write letters on the rest of the paper until it's gone.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: NinetyFour on December 03, 2016, 02:18:05 PM
I like all kinds of shwag.  Can't seem to have enough tote bags...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on December 03, 2016, 03:34:31 PM
The ACT (our state/provincial/territory government) has banned plastic shopping bags (for environmental reasons), so you need to bring your own bags whenever you go to the supermarket. Simple tote bags are good, and get used until they develop holes in the bottom. If the sewing comes undone, the sides are resewn, but once the bottom gets holes, the material throughout is suspect.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on December 03, 2016, 03:58:46 PM
Well you guys started the OT, so - I love the folding nylon bags, small, light, and capacious.  And sturdy. And washable, dry super fast.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Sustainable Happiness on December 05, 2016, 09:11:54 AM
Watching this thread for tickets! My wife and I are interested!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 05, 2016, 09:34:28 AM
Awesome stuff happiness! Its going to be a great time.

Your screen name just made me thing of the Will Smith movie. I would never admit to crying at a movie. never. Not even one that reminds me so much of single Dad-ing it with my daughter.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: plainjane on December 05, 2016, 11:26:55 AM
... while we're on the subject....
Here's some of the CMC logo ideas that didn't make the cut.

I know I haven't signed up yet, so don't get a vote, but I quite like that squirrel.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on December 05, 2016, 11:33:28 AM
I.. I....

It's a beaver guys.  It's got teeth.  And a flat different coloured tail.  And i much more patriotic than furry rats.

On that note, am I the only one who thought the old parks Canada symbol looked like a deformed duck head?  It literally took me years until I realized what it was.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 05, 2016, 11:48:27 AM
I.. I....

It's a beaver guys.  It's got teeth.  And a flat different coloured tail.  And i much more patriotic than furry rats.

On that note, am I the only one who thought the old parks Canada symbol looked like a deformed duck head?  It literally took me years until I realized what it was.

Do you mean this one? I thought it was a poorly drawn Snoopy.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXB9y67mCQO8UcMlV7ZbL_ia3bHk0Kdv6PT26TIK5xY9LODbfX1iJLkA)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on December 05, 2016, 11:53:59 AM
What is that?!?!? Looks like an upside down fetal position in this American"s view.

Please translate for the non Canadiens,  eh?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on December 05, 2016, 12:21:23 PM
Yep, that's the one.

...it's a beaver.  The little dot is an eye.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on December 05, 2016, 12:39:44 PM
Yep, that's the one.

...it's a beaver.  The little dot is an eye.
This is cracking me up endlessly.
Just so you know.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 05, 2016, 12:48:37 PM
Yep, that's the one.

...it's a beaver.  The little dot is an eye.

No - its snoopy. The little dot is a nostril.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on December 05, 2016, 12:58:28 PM
Yep, that's the one.

...it's a beaver.  The little dot is an eye.

No - its snoopy. The little dot is a nostril.

Oh stop, or we'll take your Canadian Card away!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: plainjane on December 05, 2016, 01:36:51 PM
I.. I....
It's a beaver guys.  It's got teeth.  And a flat different coloured tail.  And i much more patriotic than furry rats.

I live in Toronto.  I default to squirrel for most cute rodents.  Did I mention I saw the fabled White Squirrel in Trinity Bellwood this summer?  Tried to find the capybara in High Park, but no luck.

Beavers are mythical creatures for those of us in the city.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on December 05, 2016, 02:14:53 PM
So tempted to make Canadian rodent jokes, but fear I will be banned from CMC2017 if I do.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 05, 2016, 02:26:27 PM
Go ahead... the rest of us have.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on December 05, 2016, 03:25:39 PM
I went to the Biodome once and was looking for the capybaras in the amazon jungle habitat.  No sign of them. Then one of the rocks moved.  Capybaras are BIG!

Beavers are neat.  I was driving in cottage country once and a poplar tree was crossing the road on its side.  Stopped, got out and looked - there was a beaver under all the foliage, dragging the tree to its pond.

Squirrels - rats with fluffy tails.  Like gulls - rats with wings.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on December 05, 2016, 03:35:40 PM
Beavers are neat.  I was driving in cottage country once and a poplar tree was crossing the road on its side.  Stopped, got out and looked - there was a beaver under all the foliage, dragging the tree to its pond.

Squirrels - rats with fluffy tails.  Like gulls - rats with wings.

Similar experience last night. Saw a plastic bag moving in the wind. Quickly. Along with the ground. With purpose. Realized I was inside a subway station, there was no wind, and there was a rat underneath that speedy plastic bag.

Subway rats: rats with stolen goods.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on December 05, 2016, 04:58:52 PM
I live in the geographic centre of one of Canada's bigger cities and there is a beaver living less from a block from  me. I have seen foxes around here, and deer live in some industrial wasteland near me. Canada is serious about its wildlife.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 05, 2016, 05:32:04 PM
There are beavers in Toronto harbour. Every few years a new newspaper story pops up about how bizarre it is that beavers have moved in. The yachties know the beavers never left. They've been there all along.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2011/07/17/beavers_scout_for_a_home_in_queens_quay_condo_corridor.html
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on December 05, 2016, 06:01:42 PM
I read somewhere that Calgary's coyote population is huge.  Raccoons love Toronto's ravines.  I live in the country - Missy had never seen a squirrel until we spent a year in Ottawa. I have to be honest about that country living though, this is farm country and there are few trees on our road, so no squirrels.  I lived in another place in the country where chasing squirrels was my dog's favourite activity (she never caught any, but she sure did try).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on December 05, 2016, 06:12:31 PM
I told my kids when they were tiny that if they ever caught a squirrel I'd cook it for them. They still try, with surprising frequency.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on December 05, 2016, 06:17:24 PM
I told my kids when they were tiny that if they ever caught a squirrel I'd cook it for them. They still try, with surprising frequency.

I've had squirrel - it was fine.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on December 05, 2016, 06:33:14 PM
I told my kids when they were tiny that if they ever caught a squirrel I'd cook it for them. They still try, with surprising frequency.

I've had squirrel - it was fine.

Did you catch it yourself?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on December 05, 2016, 06:50:06 PM
I told my kids when they were tiny that if they ever caught a squirrel I'd cook it for them. They still try, with surprising frequency.

I've had squirrel - it was fine.

Did you catch it yourself?

Nope, I've never been fast enough or clever enough. An adult cousin got them hunting. I was about 10-11 years old and having dinner at an aunt's house. The meat was very dark, darker than roast beef.  I imagine she cooked it (braised) for a long time. Not tough, not gamey, fairly nondescript as I remember.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on December 05, 2016, 07:41:47 PM
So if we may be able to have a meatball party, how many meatballs will squirrel be included in?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: stashyMel on December 05, 2016, 07:51:23 PM
I want to go. I can drive there. They've let me in before. They will probably let me across the border again. Plus I know how to look at the kPH part of my cluster.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 05, 2016, 08:28:24 PM
I want to go. I can drive there. They've let me in before. They will probably let me across the border again. Plus I know how to look at the kPH part of my cluster.

I am so happy you speak metric. I was afraid I'd have to translate for EVERYONE.

Watch for the February seat release!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on December 05, 2016, 11:19:59 PM
Animal stories:

My uncle has a farm on which the back of one pasture has a small stream.  This stream regularly gets dammed by a family of beavers each spring, and every spring he goes out and pulls it apart before it causes too much damage.  One year he was pulling it apart, but had to head back to the house and left his shovel.  Upon his return he couldn’t find it anywhere until he looked closer at the dam and realized it had been incorporated while he has away.  Dynamite may or may not have been used in the end that year.

I was living behind a pizza place.  I woke up one morning to see a squirrel trying to climb a fence with most of an entire stale, stiff slice held up in front of it.  It did ok as long as it went horizontally, but watching it try to climb up a tree trunk without a) losing the pizza or b) falling backwards or c) mashing the pizza into the tree, was entirely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Freedomin5 on December 06, 2016, 06:35:14 AM
This is why I love Canada.

The other threads are all about serious stuff like Trump, and gun purchases, and racism, and such. While here on the Canadian thread, the major topics of discussion are urban wildlife and the metric system.

Sad that I won't be able to make it to CMC2017, but I am definitely enjoying the banter. All of you are hilarious!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on December 06, 2016, 07:31:20 AM
This is why I love Canada.

The other threads are all about serious stuff like Trump, and gun purchases, and racism, and such. While here on the Canadian thread, the major topics of discussion are urban wildlife and the metric system.

Sad that I won't be able to make it to CMC2017, but I am definitely enjoying the banter. All of you are hilarious!

We know what matters, eh?  When you live in a country where Mother Nature hates you would happily kill you likes to challenge your survival skills 6 months of the year, you know your priorities.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 06, 2016, 07:32:54 AM
This is why I love Canada.

The other threads are all about serious stuff like Trump, and gun purchases, and racism, and such. While here on the Canadian thread, the major topics of discussion are urban wildlife and the metric system.

Sad that I won't be able to make it to CMC2017, but I am definitely enjoying the banter. All of you are hilarious!

We know what matters, eh?  When you live in a country where Mother Nature hates you would happily kill you likes to challenge your survival skills 6 months of the year, you know your priorities.

Priorities:

1. Beer.
2. Cheeseburgers.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on December 06, 2016, 08:37:08 AM
The Canadian version of bread and circuses?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on December 06, 2016, 08:50:40 AM
This is why I love Canada.

The other threads are all about serious stuff like Trump, and gun purchases, and racism, and such. While here on the Canadian thread, the major topics of discussion are urban wildlife and the metric system.

Sad that I won't be able to make it to CMC2017, but I am definitely enjoying the banter. All of you are hilarious!

We know what matters, eh?  When you live in a country where Mother Nature hates you would happily kill you likes to challenge your survival skills 6 months of the year, you know your priorities.

Priorities:

1. Beer.
2. Cheeseburgers.

1.  Warm clothes (including hats, mitts, boots, scarves, etc.)
2.  Cheeseburgers and other nourishing food

No beer until back inside, it dilates surface blood vessels and you lose body heat faster -> hypothermia.  And then a hot rum toddy is better.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on December 06, 2016, 03:11:47 PM
The Canadian version of bread and circuses?

The Canadian version of bread and circuses is beer and popcorn. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=beer+and+popcorn&amp=true&defid=1561080
(Nothing dirty- a political gaffe a few years back)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 07, 2016, 11:15:39 AM
I can't believe I JUST found this thread - where on earth have I been all these months?!! Camp Mustache in my own backyard - sounds absolutely awesome! By the way, you all are hilarious - I started the thread and couldn't stop until I made it through the whole thing - urban wildlife, metric system and all.

Prospector: I have both Cdn AND US paypal accounts AND bank accounts. If you think it will help, I would be happy to help receive checks/Paypal in USD and make the equivalent transfer to you in Cdn (Paypal or email money transfer is fine with me). That might make it easier for our American friends?

I'd also be happy to offer a carpool/bed if anyone is going through Windsor to get the CMC (so thrilled its only 3 hours from me!). And if you need any help before/during/after the event, do let me know. I happen to love event planning :)

I suppose before I do all this, my next step is to sign up. It's only a day off from work and if I book it in now, I won't be able to use it up on other trips :) My poor husband - I haven't even talked to him yet about this. I am thinking he will come. He does like personal finance, but I am not sure he is going to be into talking to a whole bunch of internet strangers about it. Then again, it's not like we've ever had the opportunity for anything like this. I don't know about my 2 teen kids - not sure there is much for them to do. Unless perhaps they can offer babysitting services? Maybe I should get them to put together a mini-mustache camp for the kids while they are there!


Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 07, 2016, 11:32:31 AM
ELAINE!! You may be the hero we need...

Although this begins to feel like a money laundering ring. I'll PM you soon. The next block of tickets is supposed to open up in February. I am hoping to have our cash movement sorted out by then. In any case, I'll message you and see what we can make happen.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 07, 2016, 11:58:59 AM
ELAINE!! You may be the hero we need...

Do I get a cape? Someone posted about a superhero cape they made for nephews/nieces on the Homemade Christmas thread that looked intriguing.

Although this begins to feel like a money laundering ring. I'll PM you soon.

After spending the last few years playing the CC churning game and manufacturing spend, this will be peanuts!

No sense in folks paying extra fees if we can help it - all the online systems you talked about all charge a fair bit in fees. I can always use USD so it's no big deal if I act as the no-fee middle man to exchange money.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on December 07, 2016, 12:50:14 PM
Yesssss I don't own stamps or checks so I was seriously putting off mailing a check. Can I participate in Elaine's money laundering ring? Pretty please?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on December 07, 2016, 01:01:32 PM
Yesssss I don't own stamps or checks so I was seriously putting off mailing a check. Can I participate in Elaine's money laundering ring? Pretty please?

Me, too?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 07, 2016, 01:52:04 PM
LOL - yes and YES!

What we have to figure out is what is a fair US exchange rate. My office uses the average monthly rate for the prior month to reimburse me. Does that sound fair to everyone? So for folks making payments in December, that would be USD37.20 (based on the Bank of Canada's avg exchange rate for Nov 2016). I can update the number next month. Unless someone has a suggestion for an alternate way of handling this - I'm open to suggestions for managing an efficient money laundering ring :)

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on December 07, 2016, 04:17:42 PM
LOL - yes and YES!

What we have to figure out is what is a fair US exchange rate. My office uses the average monthly rate for the prior month to reimburse me. Does that sound fair to everyone? So for folks making payments in December, that would be USD37.20 (based on the Bank of Canada's avg exchange rate for Nov 2016). I can update the number next month. Unless someone has a suggestion for an alternate way of handling this - I'm open to suggestions for managing an efficient money laundering ring :)

PayPal can send money in any denomination.

We send you $50 CAD, they transfer it from our bank/CC at whatever the rate of the day is.  We select that we pay the fees (so you actually receive the full 50 CAD).  You cash it out and write prospector a combined check for all us, for free. (Or transfer bank to bank, if that's free).

Basically we could transfer directly to Prospector, but he can't get a paypal account for reasons I forget.  Oh, also his bank charges him to transfer money from paypal into his account?  If you can transfer from your paypal to your bank free, then to him free, that solves it.

You don't need to worry about taking money in USD or anything like that, that adds an extra complication.

Summary: We just need someone who can receive the money. Have everyone send it in CAD, with sender paying the fees.
Title: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 07, 2016, 07:06:33 PM
Well, I have both a US AND a Cdn Paypal account - so was hoping to save Mustachians any fees. Everything can be done via personal transfers on Paypal, which is free. I can then turn around and use my Tangerine account to transfer the money to Prospector, also for free.

Alternatively, MMM'ers can send it directly to my Cdn Paypal and select to pay whatever fees they charge to do the exchange. Either way is fine with me. Folks can choose whatever works best for them.

I just have a bit of a mental block about paying fees if it can be avoided lol!

I'm good with anything - happy to help in whatever way :) So thrilled to have a Camp Mustache so close to home!


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Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on December 07, 2016, 07:17:07 PM
Someone's gotta convert the money.  Better the sender paying the fees than you paying the fees on that for everyone, IMO.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on December 07, 2016, 07:31:21 PM
I can do e-transfer to a U.S. bank!

Elaine - I think you should get a cape? What should it look like?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on December 07, 2016, 07:44:41 PM
I have a green crushed velvet cape lined with satin that Elaine can have. If she sends me the logo she wants on it, I could put that on the back as well.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on December 07, 2016, 07:51:07 PM
I have a green crushed velvet cape lined with satin that Elaine can have. If she sends me the logo she wants on it, I could put that on the back as well.

That sounds very cool!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 07, 2016, 09:28:20 PM
I have a green crushed velvet cape lined with satin that Elaine can have. If she sends me the logo she wants on it, I could put that on the back as well.
Be careful - I might just take u up on that and wear the cape all weekend!!

ARS - I always have use for US$ so will just leave it in US and pay Prospector out of my own Canadian $ stash. So no worries. Just a few extra steps for me but I don't mind if it saves folks on extra fees.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 07, 2016, 09:32:06 PM
I can do e-transfer to a U.S. bank!

In the US, we bank with Chase so that works for me. Or a personal Paypal transfer. Whatever is easiest for u :)

I'll be sending the Cdn equivalent to Prospector with my Cdn Tangerine account since they offer free email transfers.

There are some advantages to dealing with the complication of bank accounts and finances in 2 countries!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on December 07, 2016, 11:44:06 PM
I have a green crushed velvet cape lined with satin that Elaine can have. If she sends me the logo she wants on it, I could put that on the back as well.
Be careful - I might just take u up on that and wear the cape all weekend!!
/quote]You can have it to keep.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on December 08, 2016, 03:25:51 PM
I keep getting lost in this thread, it moves so fast! Are the February tickets Feb 1? Or Feb TBD?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 08, 2016, 03:38:37 PM
The next release will be Feb 1... if I have the catering menu put together.

I already have a meal plan for the event, but meal prices may change depending on market etc.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 08, 2016, 09:17:51 PM
@rockstache Are u thinking of coming?? Woot!!!


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Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Freedomin5 on December 09, 2016, 05:38:11 AM
Someone's gotta convert the money.  Better the sender paying the fees than you paying the fees on that for everyone, IMO.

I think Elaine's point is that she can use USD, so she doesn't actually have to convert the cash she receives, thereby saving the fees charged by banks/PayPal for the conversion service. She just uses the agreed-upon conversion rate to decide how much of her Canadian cash to give Prospector. No money actually leaves either country.

For example, the bank earns the spread (1) when I convert my RMB to CDN, but the sending bank also charges me 3% of the total amount (2), plus the receiving bank charges me $150 fee (3) to receive and process the transfer. So I'm typically charged three times when I convert a large amount of money. Elaine is basically saving everyone fees (2) and (3). At least that's the way I understand it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 09, 2016, 06:11:20 AM
FWIW, as of last night, $50USD = $63.88 CAD using the bank rate. The cheque drawn on Bank of America went through without the teller batting an eye.

Paper cheques truly are not an issue at this end. Paypal/E-transfers may be more convenient at your end, but for me it makes no difference. I drive past our bank twice a day.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on December 09, 2016, 07:13:14 AM
Awesome! Have several beers on me.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 09, 2016, 07:21:49 AM
Awesome! Have several beers on me.

Yuppers - a 6-pack is almost exactly that. But I applied the excess to your CMC account for now.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 09, 2016, 07:41:46 AM
Someone's gotta convert the money.  Better the sender paying the fees than you paying the fees on that for everyone, IMO.

I think Elaine's point is that she can use USD, so she doesn't actually have to convert the cash she receives, thereby saving the fees charged by banks/PayPal for the conversion service. She just uses the agreed-upon conversion rate to decide how much of her Canadian cash to give Prospector. No money actually leaves either country.

For example, the bank earns the spread (1) when I convert my RMB to CDN, but the sending bank also charges me 3% of the total amount (2), plus the receiving bank charges me $150 fee (3) to receive and process the transfer. So I'm typically charged three times when I convert a large amount of money. Elaine is basically saving everyone fees (2) and (3). At least that's the way I understand it.

Yep and yep :)

I just hate fees lol!

e.g. according to yesterday's exchange rate, you should have gotten $66.029 (or thereabouts since it fluctuates). Instead, you got dinged almost $3 in fees. Its no big deal in the grand scheme of things I know :) It's not much extra work for me to shift the money around. Plus, my husband pointed out last night that we get to exchange for more USD without extra fees on our end too. Don't know how much this helps since we typically wait for optimal exchange rates to exchange money and we still have a couple of years worth of US$ that we accumulated when it was at par - but I'll go with it!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 09, 2016, 08:02:26 AM
To keep things clear, it is now your choice how you wish to pay.

If you got a spot in the presale, all payments can come through me except US funds e-transfers and US paypal. If you wish to do either of those, please PM Elaine. Elaine represents herself and rates and fees are between you and her.

I can accept US checks, Canadian Cheques, some US e-transfers (via Interac), and I have opened a "Personal" Paypal linked to the event and tied to the event bank account. I am not sure how well Tangerine will like the paypal being in a different name to the account, but we will see. If you pay using the Paypal, be ready for nutty fees. Elaine's is a US paypal account tied to a US bank, so should run more smoothly, but with the extra step of Elaine transferring your cash to me using Canadian banks and e-transfers.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 09, 2016, 08:12:42 AM
To keep things clear, it is now your choice how you wish to pay.

If you got a spot in the presale, all payments can come through me except US funds e-transfers and US paypal. If you wish to do either of those, please PM Elaine. Elaine represents herself and rates and fees are between you and her.

I can accept US checks, Canadian Cheques, some US e-transfers (via Interac), and I have opened a "Personal" Paypal linked to the event and tied to the event bank account. I am not sure how well Tangerine will like the paypal being in a different name to the account, but we will see. If you pay using the Paypal, be ready for nutty fees. Elaine's is a US paypal account tied to a US bank, so should run more smoothly, but with the extra step of Elaine transferring your cash to me using Canadian banks and e-transfers.

Thanks to our awesome organizer for explaining it all so clearly :)

Monkeyjenga and CherryLane: I am sending you a PM with my US Paypal info. Since we're internet strangers, I'll also send you my personal FB info so if I try to run off with your money, you can send thugs to my office!

EDIT: For exchange rate, I'd like to go with the avg exchange rate of the previous month as published by the Bank of Canada (http://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/exchange/monthly-average-lookup/?lookupPage=lookup_monthly_exchange_rates.php&startRange=2006-11-01&endRange=2016-11-01&startYear=2006&currentYear=2016&currentMonth=11&rangeType=dates&dFromMonth=11&dFromYear=2016&dToMonth=11&dToYear=2016&rangeMonthlyValue=1&series%5B%5D=LOOKUPS_IEXM0101&submit_button=Submit). With the daily fluctuations, it will be very disconcerting to see different numbers arriving in my US bank account. So each month, I'll publish the exchange rate I'm offering. Like Prospector said, its entirely your choice how you wish to pay - all he cares about is that the correct amount of Cdn $ arrives in his account so he can pay CMC's bills.

For December payments, I'm going with USD37.20 for CDN$50 (Exchange rate of 0.74415836).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 09, 2016, 08:17:47 AM
To keep things clear, it is now your choice how you wish to pay.

If you got a spot in the presale, all payments can come through me except US funds e-transfers and US paypal. If you wish to do either of those, please PM Elaine. Elaine represents herself and rates and fees are between you and her.

I can accept US checks, Canadian Cheques, some US e-transfers (via Interac), and I have opened a "Personal" Paypal linked to the event and tied to the event bank account. I am not sure how well Tangerine will like the paypal being in a different name to the account, but we will see. If you pay using the Paypal, be ready for nutty fees. Elaine's is a US paypal account tied to a US bank, so should run more smoothly, but with the extra step of Elaine transferring your cash to me using Canadian banks and e-transfers.

Oh yeah - and I can do all things Canadian, of course.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on December 09, 2016, 07:36:05 PM
@rockstache Are u thinking of coming?? Woot!!!


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I'm kicking it around. I'd realllly love to!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on December 09, 2016, 07:36:45 PM
@rockstache Are u thinking of coming?? Woot!!!


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I'm kicking it around. I'd realllly love to!
Do it!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on December 09, 2016, 08:44:56 PM
@rockstache Are u thinking of coming?? Woot!!!


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I'm kicking it around. I'd realllly love to!

*joins the chant*

DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 10, 2016, 05:50:03 AM
2 more envelopes in the mail this weekend. One from Eastern Ontario, one from Iowa.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on December 10, 2016, 07:29:53 AM
2 more envelopes in the mail this weekend. One from Eastern Ontario, one from Iowa.

Woohoo - the tinfoil made it!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on December 10, 2016, 02:44:42 PM
And one should be me!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on December 10, 2016, 02:55:56 PM
My new passport arrived in the mail today!

(The most pressing need is for a trip I'm taking in three weeks, but also necessary for CMC).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 11, 2016, 11:59:52 PM
All but 3 spots in the presale are now paid! Thanks guys! If I received your payment this weekend, check your email for a message. If you have sent cash and not gotten an email recognizing it, please email me and I'll confirm on the sprteadsheet.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on December 15, 2016, 03:11:50 AM
MXT is going. She was planning on attending with me, but just in case I can't get in, I may or may not bundle her in a suitcase and ship her up there. MXT will be there. Please make it worth it for her.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on December 15, 2016, 03:34:10 AM
MXT is going. She was planning on attending with me, but just in case I can't get in, I may or may not bundle her in a suitcase and ship her up there. MXT will be there. Please make it worth her for her.

Tell her that there is a hug waiting for her from me. (If she's a hugger.)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on December 15, 2016, 04:24:26 AM
MXT is going. She was planning on attending with me, but just in case I can't get in, I may or may not bundle her in a suitcase and ship her up there. MXT will be there. Please make it worth her for her.

Tell her that there is a hug waiting for her from me. (If she's a hugger.)

Meh, she's indifferent. Hug her!! It'll be awesome. Also, there is like 10 months to go.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on December 15, 2016, 04:31:23 AM
MXT is going. She was planning on attending with me, but just in case I can't get in, I may or may not bundle her in a suitcase and ship her up there. MXT will be there. Please make it worth her for her.

Tell her that there is a hug waiting for her from me. (If she's a hugger.)

Meh, she's indifferent. Hug her!! It'll be awesome. Also, there is like 10 months to go.

I have faith that pbk never forgets a promised hug, just based on the little I know of her.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on December 15, 2016, 04:32:34 AM
MXT is going. She was planning on attending with me, but just in case I can't get in, I may or may not bundle her in a suitcase and ship her up there. MXT will be there. Please make it worth her for her.

Tell her that there is a hug waiting for her from me. (If she's a hugger.)

Meh, she's indifferent. Hug her!! It'll be awesome. Also, there is like 10 months to go.

I have faith that pbk never forgets a promised hug, just based on the little I know of her.

True, that.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on December 15, 2016, 04:34:51 AM
MXT is going. She was planning on attending with me, but just in case I can't get in, I may or may not bundle her in a suitcase and ship her up there. MXT will be there. Please make it worth her for her.

Tell her that there is a hug waiting for her from me. (If she's a hugger.)

Meh, she's indifferent. Hug her!! It'll be awesome. Also, there is like 10 months to go.

I have faith that pbk never forgets a promised hug, just based on the little I know of her.

True, that.
Honestly, it's going to be like the chest bump, minus the falling over. Good stuff. Except I don't think I'll tell her.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on December 31, 2016, 03:46:37 PM
I need to introduce a new speaker in the morning. If I'm a little weary (late) after a night out, will you guys be Gentle? Also, two ppl submitted intros. Do you wanna hear about personal finance or real Estate?

This tablet capitalizes random words. How do I stop That?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on December 31, 2016, 07:02:23 PM
Android or apple tablet? Keyboard settings on an android, on an apple, I couldn't tell you. I vote for real estate, and I'll be relatively gentle.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on January 01, 2017, 04:48:26 AM
You know you set the rules and can post the info later in the day, or even on the 2nd, right?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 01, 2017, 07:07:15 PM
I set the rules, yes. I also hold myself to mediocre standard... As promised:

SPEAKER ANNOUNCEMENT:

If you follow the Canada Money Forum, you know "Berubeland" as one of the more prolific posters on the realities for Landlording and property management there. Witty, smart, and to the point, Rachelle is the sort of person who you want on your side in a tenant dispute. Her understanding of both the technical side of landlord and tenant laws in Ontario, her ability to read individuals and cut through to the essence of a situation, and her own business acumen have lead her to a position as one of the better landlord advocates around - but she's not a romantic when it comes to real estate.

Her pragmatic approach to real estate investments and her ability to read past the fluff and deep into data have won her recognition in national newspapers and on local committees. Rachelle is President of Landlord Rescue Inc (http://landlordrescue.ca/), and possibly the most bearish property manager south of the Arctic Circle. For the last 20 years she has managed multi residential buildings, commercial strip plazas, townhouse complexes, duplexes, houses, and lots of condos. Her hobby is busting up REIT ponzi schemes (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-magazine/league-of-their-own/article16583968/?page=all)  and using her critical thinking to shed light on some common memes (http://www.macleans.ca/economy/realestateeconomy/the-vacant-truth-about-rental-condos/) in the industry.

I hope you are looking forward to Rachelle Berube's presentation as much as I am - please welcome her to the forum and the camp!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Bikeguy on January 01, 2017, 07:09:16 PM
Following
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Berubeland on January 01, 2017, 08:09:51 PM
Hi All,

I'm looking forward to the weekend. I will answer any questions you feel need answering.

Any suggestions for topics?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on January 01, 2017, 08:34:58 PM
Hi All,

I'm looking forward to the weekend. I will answer any questions you feel need answering.

Any suggestions for topics?

I do know a few people, myself included, for whom the legal specifics won't be too relevant (seeing as how I just learned where Ontario was). Seeing as how this is Camp Mustache Canada, I assume that stuff is going to be prevalent, as it should. However, I'd be very interested in the kind of approach one takes, and issues to identify that transcend borders. Almost like a list of things to stay aware of, regardless of the laws. Practices that facilitate getting to the data, approaches with tenants, and stuff like that.

Oh, and welcome to the forum. We have fun here.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 01, 2017, 09:01:14 PM
Hi All,

I'm looking forward to the weekend. I will answer any questions you feel need answering.

Any suggestions for topics?

Topic 1: How super awesome Prospector is.
Topic 2: What is the best time of year for buying and setting up a rental. We bought in late fall and will be straddling tax years, and are now worried about a late winter tenant placement. Both from a tax and tenant perspective, what is the best target date for buying/occupancy? Why?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 01, 2017, 10:03:43 PM
Also, I'm curious - anyone doing a Norbert's Gambit to convert funds? I was just reading back on Elaine's cash conversions for American attendees, and wondering. Since we're headed south this spring, I tried selling the idea around here, but Momma would have none of it.

Instead we're taking a DCA approach and converting $XXX each pay from now until we head out.

In any case, if anyone does the gambit, I want all the details of how it pans out. Does this even work converting US cash this way, do you guys have any cross-border banks?

For those who may benefit, here is our keynote speaker's take on the trick of moving money by buying ETFs: http://canadiancouchpotato.com/2013/12/03/norberts-gambit-the-complete-guide/
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on January 02, 2017, 01:03:09 AM
Also, I'm curious - anyone doing a Norbert's Gambit to convert funds? I was just reading back on Elaine's cash conversions for American attendees, and wondering. Since we're headed south this spring, I tried selling the idea around here, but Momma would have none of it.

I did this once. To convert CAD to USD, using Questrade. It worked, but hassle and not sure if I would do it again.
I was doing it with funds for house down payment, it was on order of $50,000 or something, so it was worth it for me to try and get best exchange rate.

It worked as it should have, BUT, the whole time I was nervous that I would mess something up. And then later I ended up with USD in a Canadian brokerage and found the only convenient way I had to get that back to a US bank was by wire transfer, which had all kinds of fees involved.

So in practice, I did get an exchange rate very close to spot
BUT I took several days trying to decide how to do it, and the day to day variance in the exchange rate might have swamped any gains
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Berubeland on January 02, 2017, 08:39:28 AM
Topic 1: How super awesome Prospector is.

Prospector is a very special person. It's hard to quantify how super awesome he is, but I'll try. A normal person like myself would only possess 10 or 20 units of super awesome. Super awesome is variable, and differs depending which direction you are looking and even your perspective. For instance, if I'm performing an eviction the tenant would see only -1 units of super awesome and the landlord might give me a score of 99 super awesome units. My husband usually thinks I'm at least 50 super awesome units, but if I ask him to do the dishes it immediately decreases.

Back to Prospector now, he possesses a grahams number of super awesome units https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_number. In fact I have no idea how he can even fit all those super awesome units in his body. It may even break the laws of physics, but the gravitational pull of the super awesome units just keep it all contained in one person. But I won't lie, the stresses involved may one day cause a super awesome super nova and where Prospector used to be...just a super awesome crater or even a super awesome black hole or even a super awesome non-planet.

He's that super awesome ;-) the only person with a greater amount of super awesome is my son, who possesses infinity super super super super awesome units.

Topic 2: What is the best time of year for buying and setting up a rental. We bought in late fall and will be straddling tax years, and are now worried about a late winter tenant placement. Both from a tax and tenant perspective, what is the best target date for buying/occupancy? Why?

The best time of year to set up your rental varies according to the "season" in Toronto that season is from June to September. It also depends on what type of rental you have, with smaller less expensive apartments appealing to more mobile/transient renters. The facts are that no matter when you buy your rental you need to try to rent it and that can be challenging.

For instance I listed a 4 bedroom house in North Oshawa December 19th and I just rented it for January 1st because the people had a fire in their house. I was not expecting that, generally these properties linger on through the winter but thee owner will get to rerent it for September 1 because that is the best rental month of the year. I took an 8 month lease on it....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on January 02, 2017, 08:49:46 AM
Questions:
1. When should you handle all property management yourself and when should you hire a property management company?
2. What is an acceptable fee range for a property management company?
3. What are the skills and characteristics of a successful real estate investor / mogul?
4. Residential vs. commercial real estate.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on January 02, 2017, 09:05:35 AM
I may disagree with your ranking of Prospero quiiite so highly on the super awesome scale, but I appreciate your thorough analysis.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 02, 2017, 11:34:14 AM
Because I am super-awesome (no matter what Jenga says), I have two announcements:

1. Room rates for ppl with primates and games in their names have just gone up by 500%.
2. A second speaker announcement:

SPEAKER ANNOUNCEMENT #3 - Opening Speaker

Our opening speaker has spent most of her career working in nonprofit jobs, directly coaching low-income folks to overcome perceived barriers to their success. Her program has captured the imagination of individuals in the northwest featuring her as a speaker at financial conferences and on blogs and podcasts. Applying principals of frugality and budgeting has seen her experiment with a wide variety of lifestyles including living in a geodesic dome made of political yard signs, on a tree platform,  as a full-time live-in social worker, surrounded by thieving monkeys in the national forest of Karnataka, India, and in a broken-down RV at a hippie commune. She's exceptionally experienced at non-traditional ways to accomplish living, traveling, saving, and giving to charity with limited means thanks to earning less than $15,000 annually most years of her working life. She now teaches personal finance classes to young adults, transforming the wisdom of Ziggy Stardust into lessons about credit & budgeting.

Doing all this while pumping out an e-zine, podcasts, and blog is no small feat!

We are pleased to announce MONSTERMONSTER (AKA Ms. Ziggy Stardust) as our kickoff speaker for Friday afternoon at CampMustache Canada!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Berubeland on January 02, 2017, 03:21:45 PM
Questions:
1. When should you handle all property management yourself and when should you hire a property management company?

It depends on a lot of different reasons but the most crucial question really is Do you really want to be a landlord? Are you suited to doing the things landlord do? To be honest any owner with a willingness to learn and a decent amount of time and some common sense can do the job. In some cases, they can do better than I can because they have one property and I have many to deal with.

They don't have the expertise or experience any property manager would have, but ultimately it's not the manager's property so you have more self interest.

Overtime, I've noticed that I do have a lot of skill I take for granted. Some of my owners have hired me for one rental and one year of property management and then set out on their own with my blessing.

However... if you are out of the country or too far away, it's just irresponsible not to have someone who can take care of issues. I have also noticed I add a lot of issue when dealing with condo corps. When it starts to leak for some reason they like to find a reason to charge the owner. I had one recently threaten to charge an owner back because of negligence because the tenant didn't report "fast enough" one rudely worded email later and that was the last I heard about charging the owner back.

2. What is an acceptable fee range for a property management company?

It depends on the service they offer. 5-10% is standard and really it depends what you need.

3. What are the skills and characteristics of a successful real estate investor / mogul?

It really depends. I would say being financially prudent is an asset and this is common characteristic. Generally the best real estate investors have an affinity and an edge of some kind. Some people excel at low income properties, others have an eye for deals, others buy for appreciation.

One of my favorite investors was a terrible manager but he was an excellent business man. He bought this one property with three buildings on it. He severed the lots and sold one building for what he had paid for the whole lot. Then he sold off this one parcel with a convenience store on it and kept this strip mall type plaza with 6 stores and 6 apartments above it. But he had 3 run down empty apartments that were vacant in there and an empty store. I got them filled up for him.

Real Estate is a long term retirement plan more than it is a get 20 properties quick and roll in the dough plan. I laugh whenever someone tells me real estate is passive income. It's more of a side gig, you won't get approved for mortgages unless you have income.

4. Residential vs. commercial real estate.

Residential is easy to get into, and you can get some appreciation. There are plenty of tenants.

Commercial generally has higher barriers to entry and appreciation is based on increased income. Tenants tend to be fewer and farther between and you may have some very long vacancy gaps. Property taxes are much higher. Once you have a tenant... they may stay for 20 years or more and as a landlord you have the rules on your side upon renewal of the lease. Commercial tenancies are complex.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on January 03, 2017, 07:10:46 AM
Holy shit! M2 is coming too? This is going to be awesome.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on January 03, 2017, 02:47:27 PM
I ordered my free Canadian national parks pass posted somehwere on these forums.

This makes it more likely that I will be visiting Canada this year and CMC as well.

Now I just need to follow through with a 2017 FIRE to make it all happen.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 06, 2017, 02:29:05 PM
I ordered my free Canadian national parks pass posted somehwere on these forums.

This makes it more likely that I will be visiting Canada this year and CMC as well.

Now I just need to follow through with a 2017 FIRE to make it all happen.

What I don't unnerstand about the free parks pass... if its free admission, why do people need to get a pass? Like wouldn't it be cheaper to just shake everyone's hand as they go through th egate instead of printing/mailing out thousands of passes?

And be careful, the pass ONLY gets free admission. You will still have to pay for camping and other activities. We had some friends talking about boating through the Trent Canal on their free pass, and we pointed out that the admission to the canal is covered (its always been free), but not locking fees.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on January 06, 2017, 02:33:36 PM
I agree. From what I can figure out, I will likely only get limited use out of mine. Locally, we have a national historic site (but my teens are rather old for this) and a national park (where we do like to go hiking/biking/canoeing) about an hour away. I've looked into other National Parks in the areas I expect to travel but unfortunately, none of them will really work out for my travel plans for 2017. We are camping - but will be going to Ontario Provincial Parks and our camping permits will give us access to all other parks during our trip anyway.

I was mostly hoping for extra hiking, etc but none are really located where I plan to be. I should have been smarter and planned a big road trip out east. Or even to Ottawa/Montreal.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on January 06, 2017, 04:13:30 PM
What I don't unnerstand about the free parks pass... if its free admission, why do people need to get a pass? Like wouldn't it be cheaper to just shake everyone's hand as they go through th egate instead of printing/mailing out thousands of passes?

Awareness.  They could advertise it as free, or they could add the tiny "cost" to people of taking the time to sign up for it, wait to receive it, etc.

That makes people value it more, and having a "pass" makes it seem exclusive, versus anyone who can just show up.

The printing and mailing is essentially a marketing cost to get people to actually GO to the parks.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on January 06, 2017, 06:23:56 PM
What I don't unnerstand about the free parks pass... if its free admission, why do people need to get a pass? Like wouldn't it be cheaper to just shake everyone's hand as they go through th egate instead of printing/mailing out thousands of passes?

Awareness.  They could advertise it as free, or they could add the tiny "cost" to people of taking the time to sign up for it, wait to receive it, etc.

That makes people value it more, and having a "pass" makes it seem exclusive, versus anyone who can just show up.

The printing and mailing is essentially a marketing cost to get people to actually GO to the parks.

And it gave me something spiffy to put in DH's Christmas stocking!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on January 06, 2017, 08:39:45 PM
They pay the cost to send out the passes, and get your contact information for ever and ever.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: lucy16076 on January 11, 2017, 04:25:13 AM
Did I read that the next tickets will go on sale Feb 1st?  Will there be a link here on this forum?
This is the first I'm hearing about MMM coming home to CANADA!! So exciting! Hope I don't miss it!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on January 11, 2017, 04:40:47 AM
Did I read that the next tickets will go on sale Feb 1st?  Will there be a link here on this forum?
This is the first I'm hearing about MMM coming home to CANADA!! So exciting! Hope I don't miss it!
MMM will not be there, as I understand it, as CMC is scheduled during the week of FINCon, which he attends.

He does annually travel back to Canada to visit family, and sometimes does a meetup, I believe.

If he does the same as the presale, Prospector will be posting instructions on ordering the next batch of tickets in the first post of this thread (and a countdown to when that will be a few days before, so just watch this thread). :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 11, 2017, 05:50:04 AM
Did I read that the next tickets will go on sale Feb 1st?  Will there be a link here on this forum?
This is the first I'm hearing about MMM coming home to CANADA!! So exciting! Hope I don't miss it!
MMM will not be there, as I understand it, as CMC is scheduled during the week of FINCon, which he attends.

He does annually travel back to Canada to visit family, and sometimes does a meetup, I believe.

If he does the same as the presale, Prospector will be posting instructions on ordering the next batch of tickets in the first post of this thread (and a countdown to when that will be a few days before, so just watch this thread). :)

All true, and well said - don't count on Feb 1 though - still working with the venue on food pricing. Maybe first half of February. Keep watching this space and I'll announce here.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 13, 2017, 11:47:53 AM
Just heard back from venue and have 2 important news tidbits...

1. I got a menu and THE MEATBALL PARTY IS ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!!
2. We can send our deposit anytime.

Since all these wonderful people sent in their deposits we are ready. Thanks to everyone who participated in the pre-sale to make securing the venue possible!!

As soon as I nail down the menu and send in our deposit, I will be able to allocate schwag* and equipment budgets easily, and we will be ready for an early February sale of the remaining bunks.

*Schwag budget will be small. I have heard your cries, Oh mustachians, and know that a minimalist/frugal crowd does not have much need of "stuff".
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on January 13, 2017, 11:55:53 AM
Just heard back from venue and have only one important news tidbit...

1. I got a menu and THE MEATBALL PARTY IS ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!!

Excellent. I would like formal recognition. Nothing too much. Maybe a toast, a small plaque, and a long, heartfelt speech.

With tears.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 13, 2017, 12:27:49 PM
Just heard back from venue and have only one important news tidbit...

1. I got a menu and THE MEATBALL PARTY IS ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!!

Excellent. I would like formal recognition. Nothing too much. Maybe a toast, a small plaque, and a long, heartfelt speech.

With tears.

You got me so excited I just went ahead and prebooked the sound systems for speeches. Please avoid crying directly on the mics, I want my damage deposit back after this.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on January 13, 2017, 01:03:26 PM
Just heard back from venue and have only one important news tidbit...

1. I got a menu and THE MEATBALL PARTY IS ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!!

Excellent. I would like formal recognition. Nothing too much. Maybe a toast, a small plaque, and a long, heartfelt speech.

With tears.

Someone crafty will make you a crown so you can be the Mustachian Meatball Monarch during the party.  You are first in line at the meatball table.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on January 13, 2017, 02:08:46 PM
As long as I get to muscle my way in so I can shove meatballs in my face, I'll be good. Yay for meatballs!!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 13, 2017, 02:09:22 PM
Just heard back from venue and have only one important news tidbit...

1. I got a menu and THE MEATBALL PARTY IS ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!!

Excellent. I would like formal recognition. Nothing too much. Maybe a toast, a small plaque, and a long, heartfelt speech.

With tears.

Someone crafty will make you a crown so you can be the Mustachian Meatball Monarch during the party.  You are first in line at the meatball table.  :)

She can be queen of the Ball(s)*



*Works on so many levels.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on January 13, 2017, 02:13:29 PM
Just heard back from venue and have only one important news tidbit...

1. I got a menu and THE MEATBALL PARTY IS ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!!

Excellent. I would like formal recognition. Nothing too much. Maybe a toast, a small plaque, and a long, heartfelt speech.

With tears.

Someone crafty will make you a crown so you can be the Mustachian Meatball Monarch during the party.  You are first in line at the meatball table.  :)

She can be queen of the Ball(s)*



*Works on so many levels.

Let's leave her personal life out of this.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on January 13, 2017, 02:53:32 PM
1. I got a menu and THE MEATBALL PARTY IS ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!!

So while y'all frolic in a sea of ground-up dead animal spheres, what's the veggie option?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 13, 2017, 03:02:29 PM
1. I got a menu and THE MEATBALL PARTY IS ALL SYSTEMS GO!!!!

So while y'all frolic in a sea of ground-up dead animal spheres, what's the veggie option?

Not sure yet, but my suggestions included something To-fu-ish and Falafels. Do you have any suggestions? I haven't coordinated with the cooks on this yet.  What orbs of deliciousness can you educate me on? Falafels have been a success.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on January 13, 2017, 05:57:30 PM
While you are talking with the cooks, please remind them that some of us will have special needs diets even though you have not got details yet.  I know you said they deal with special dietary needs all the time, so all they need is a heads-up.  If they put grass seed* in the meatballs I won't be able to eat them.   :-(

*grass seed - wheat, rye, most oats.

Anyone else gluten free and low carb? 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Thegoblinchief on January 14, 2017, 05:54:00 AM
Not gluten free but I will be starting a low carb diet this coming week.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 14, 2017, 06:32:09 AM
Its great that everyone is sharing! There will be a spot on the form for folks to put their individual diets.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FIFoFum on January 14, 2017, 09:15:18 AM
Diet/special needs for food like this get out of hand very quickly when you multiply the number of people, so I'd be very careful about managing expectations here or overpromising. It's especially tricky with things that have no accepted scientific definition (e.g., "low carb" or "vegetarian"). If they are used to handling dietary needs, especially for medical reasons, that probably means they have a system for avoiding common allergens and preventing cross-contamination & know how to cook for those with specific conditions (e.g., diabetes). They also are much better about labeling and giving you info to make appropriate choices.

There is no special form in the world that can juggle all the needs that even our small group will present. What's important is that there is an honest and transparent conversation in advance about what options will be available if you are someone who has a special dietary need.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on January 14, 2017, 09:21:39 AM
Since I live in an over-55 community, I am surrounded by special dietary needs. I do not know if this can be arranged at the site, but what seems to work best is the "bar" idea - salad bar, soup bar, sandwich bar, etc. Then people can pick and choose.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on January 14, 2017, 01:30:00 PM
^This.  If I know what foods have gluten I can avoid them.  The issue is hidden additives.  Bread crumbs are often used as filler - I am thinking the meat balls. 

Low carb -  as long as there are choices I am fine, just as I am sure the vegetarians will be fine as long as they have suitable choices.  I just don't want to be presented with a meal where everything is carb-laden - it is not fun deconstructing a sandwich so I can eat lunch, but I have done it.  A bit odd for the people I am eating with, although possible entertaining?  Desserts, sure, torture me.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on January 14, 2017, 01:32:31 PM
Diet/special needs for food like this get out of hand very quickly when you multiply the number of people, so I'd be very careful about managing expectations here or overpromising. It's especially tricky with things that have no accepted scientific definition (e.g., "low carb" or "vegetarian"). If they are used to handling dietary needs, especially for medical reasons, that probably means they have a system for avoiding common allergens and preventing cross-contamination & know how to cook for those with specific conditions (e.g., diabetes). They also are much better about labeling and giving you info to make appropriate choices.

There is no special form in the world that can juggle all the needs that even our small group will present. What's important is that there is an honest and transparent conversation in advance about what options will be available if you are someone who has a special dietary need.

:)

And we can take in as much peanut free packaged food as we can. And this is a children's charity run summer camp that is providing us adults with accommodations, food, and lots of kind thoughts at a ridiculously awesome price.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on January 14, 2017, 01:47:09 PM
Sorry for starting the special diet train.   :(. Honestly, as long as there's some sort of option and not just a 'here's extra salad'.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on January 14, 2017, 02:37:07 PM
As an omnivore - I would be OK if they went keto vegan gluten-free for all meals. It's only a few days.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 14, 2017, 04:00:50 PM
I have priced the camp with an omnivore diet.

Once we have numbers and know what specific diets we are accommodating, I'll be able to fill in the blanks for others.

My understanding is that omnivores are fed buffet style while special diets are plated and served directly at the kitchen.

Right now I am broad brushing the food stuff until details come in.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 17, 2017, 11:46:34 AM
OK surveymonkey users - I am setting up the enrollment form, can SM do this well? As in, will the results be able to be printed out by user so I can see that prospector is on a high cheeseburger diet and is roomies with ARS, or will I just get a count of the number of responses on a high cheeseburger diet?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on January 17, 2017, 11:54:46 AM
OK surveymonkey users - I am setting up the enrollment form, can SM do this well? As in, will the results be able to be printed out by user so I can see that prospector is on a high cheeseburger diet and is roomies with ARS, or will I just get a count of the number of responses on a high cheeseburger diet?

Do you have the free version or paid for version? I don't think you can do whT you want with the free version? You essentially want cross tabs results.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 17, 2017, 12:01:20 PM
OK surveymonkey users - I am setting up the enrollment form, can SM do this well? As in, will the results be able to be printed out by user so I can see that prospector is on a high cheeseburger diet and is roomies with ARS, or will I just get a count of the number of responses on a high cheeseburger diet?

Do you have the free version or paid for version? I don't think you can do whT you want with the free version? You essentially want cross tabs results.

Pfffft. Free of course!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on January 17, 2017, 12:03:22 PM
OK surveymonkey users - I am setting up the enrollment form, can SM do this well? As in, will the results be able to be printed out by user so I can see that prospector is on a high cheeseburger diet and is roomies with ARS, or will I just get a count of the number of responses on a high cheeseburger diet?

Do you have the free version or paid for version? I don't think you can do whT you want with the free version? You essentially want cross tabs results.

Pfffft. Free of course!

You can contact their help folks. I haven't used it for a couple of years, maybe they upgraded what you get for free.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on January 17, 2017, 03:02:21 PM
Here's a table of what you get at different levels from SurveyMonkey:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/pricing/details/?ut_source=mobile_pricing_summary (https://www.surveymonkey.com/pricing/details/?ut_source=mobile_pricing_summary)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on January 17, 2017, 03:40:08 PM
You can just make a google spreadsheet with a form too.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 17, 2017, 07:07:03 PM
You can just make a google spreadsheet with a form too.

Yeah - or I can make a PDF and email it out. I was just looking for an easier to use tool.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on January 17, 2017, 07:09:04 PM
You can just make a google spreadsheet with a form too.

Yeah - or I can make a PDF and email it out. I was just looking for an easier to use tool.
Hit me up tomorrow if you want some help. I think Google forms are even easier than survey monkey
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 17, 2017, 07:10:35 PM
You can just make a google spreadsheet with a form too.

Yeah - or I can make a PDF and email it out. I was just looking for an easier to use tool.
Hit me up tomorrow if you want some help. I think Google forms are even easier than survey monkey

I might just do that.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on January 17, 2017, 07:39:55 PM
You can just make a google spreadsheet with a form too.
Or make a sketch of the form, print 60 copies and mail them to us. Then we mail them back. But it's probably cheaper to do one of these technological thingies.
Yeah - or I can make a PDF and email it out. I was just looking for an easier to use tool.
Hit me up tomorrow if you want some help. I think Google forms are even easier than survey monkey

I might just do that.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on January 17, 2017, 08:49:36 PM
You can just make a google spreadsheet with a form too.

Yeah - or I can make a PDF and email it out. I was just looking for an easier to use tool.
Hit me up tomorrow if you want some help. I think Google forms are even easier than survey monkey

I might just do that.
You know my info. I'm open except 2:30-3:30 MT.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on January 17, 2017, 09:16:31 PM
You can make PDF fillable forms to email. And I think there is a way to upload the info from the e-form and have it tallied up. I don't know how to do that.

Excel is another option - problem is all the write access needed, and having folks fubar the tracking.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: SingleMomDebt on January 17, 2017, 09:36:32 PM
Flight Tix from So Cal to YTO are $425 right now. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on January 17, 2017, 11:28:34 PM
Flight Tix from So Cal to YTO are $425 right now. Not bad at all.

Do it!  :D

(Heck, do it with a Barclay Arrival Plus or Chase Sapphire Reserve to make the flight 100% totally free!)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 18, 2017, 05:09:33 AM
Flight Tix from So Cal to YTO are $425 right now. Not bad at all.

Agree. Also check prices from BUR to BUF if its driveable.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 18, 2017, 06:52:10 AM
Had a meeting last night with a bestselling Canadian Finance author...

Looks very positive. We are now up to 10 presenters, and 1 or 2 others "thinking about it".

Also have tentative interest from the Toronto Star to cover the event in a popular financial column.

This thing just keeps getting better.

Also, I've received the bio for February's "presenter of the month" - I'll post it up early next month.

As far as activities on Sunday afternoon go, it looks like I'll have to sell seats on the canoe trip separate from the camp if we are going to stay on budget. I was a little shocked at the canoe rental place's prices, so that will be a $40 option on the camp. I'll also provide free alternatives (a day hike on the local rail trail, or a local minor hockey game).

Last night I put together a registration form, and then realized I did the whole thing in the wrong google profile. I'll need to port it across today.

Ticket price looks to have settled out at $235.00 with canoeing as a $40 add-on. This will become official before the next ticket sale.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Freedomin5 on January 18, 2017, 08:08:03 AM
Thats awesome! I look forward to reading about the event on www.thestar.com from halfway around the world. Please make sure  to share the link if it's covered by The Star.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 18, 2017, 08:09:46 AM
Please see update to OP. (Post 1 in the thread)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on January 18, 2017, 09:54:03 AM
Wow - $40 PER PERSON for canoeing? I assume that's based on 2 people per canoe? I'm more used to paying $40 per canoe. Then again, if they have to transport it in, then costs always go up. Oh well - canoeing is one of my all time favorite things so I will likely do it regardless.

Thanks again for working through all these details for us Prospector!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 18, 2017, 10:03:08 AM
Wow - $40 PER PERSON for canoeing? I assume that's based on 2 people per canoe? I'm more used to paying $40 per canoe. Then again, if they have to transport it in, then costs always go up. Oh well - canoeing is one of my all time favorite things so I will likely do it regardless.

Thanks again for working through all these details for us Prospector!

Yeah - I was shocked as well. There is a place in Dunnville that is cheaper, but you'd spend so much time getting there that you'd have no time to paddle. I have between now and the start of Feb to find a better deal though, right!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: SingleMomDebt on January 18, 2017, 10:07:13 AM
Flight Tix from So Cal to YTO are $425 right now. Not bad at all.

Agree. Also check prices from BUR to BUF if its driveable.

thanks! was actually almost $100 more. not sure that I am even attending. but fun to work out potential scenarios.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on January 20, 2017, 12:39:06 AM
Wow, this all sounds great.  I went to one Toronto meet-up last year, but then some family stuff happened and I disappeared for a bit (again!)

I am totally intrigued but highly doubtful I can take time off work in order to stay for the whole weekend.  Is there any chance of having a Saturday only option?  No accommodation needed, just a "day pass" kind of thing.  I'm just in Scarborough, so coming for the day would be totally doable!

Will understand if not, but figure if you don't ask, you don't get, right???
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on January 20, 2017, 01:39:58 AM
Wow, PJ!

I'll let Prospector answer the day pass question, but in the case that the answer is no,you should definitely try to make it out for the whole weekend. These events are usually so awesome and memorable. You have 9 months to make it work, I hope you try!  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on January 22, 2017, 07:29:25 PM
Prospector, unanimous vote at tonight's MMMeet up was that the CMC swag should include a high vis vest (or item of similar function), because cyclist and pedestrian road safety is Mustachian. Can you hook us up?  (I'm picturing dusty boxes of them in a utility closet at your office, leftover from an ancient public education initiative...)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 22, 2017, 07:37:52 PM
Wow, this all sounds great.  I went to one Toronto meet-up last year, but then some family stuff happened and I disappeared for a bit (again!)

I am totally intrigued but highly doubtful I can take time off work in order to stay for the whole weekend.  Is there any chance of having a Saturday only option?  No accommodation needed, just a "day pass" kind of thing.  I'm just in Scarborough, so coming for the day would be totally doable!

Will understand if not, but figure if you don't ask, you don't get, right???

Sorry but I just don't see this as a doable option. It would get onerous real quick with food and pricing and all that jazz.

Prospector, unanimous vote at tonight's MMMeet up was that the CMC swag should include a high vis vest (or item of similar function), because cyclist and pedestrian road safety is Mustachian. Can you hook us up?  (I'm picturing dusty boxes of them in a utility closet at your office, leftover from an ancient public education initiative...)

Cool idea - I might do clip-on lights since they are pretty universally appreciated when we do these events for work. Will keep in mind.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on January 22, 2017, 09:08:16 PM
I like this idea too!
And anything with a mustache on it so we can identify ourselves as we stroll through our respective towns.  Bike bumper stickers perhaps?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 24, 2017, 03:01:16 PM
Hmmmm..... I may have a source for affordable canoeing. Two questions though... Is anyone who is attending camp a lifeguard? and Who has a trailer hitch on a vehicle tough enough to pull a canoe trailer with about 10 canoes on it? (1,000 lbs of canoe plus trailer weight) Actually, Mommas minivan might be able to manage this.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on January 24, 2017, 03:04:59 PM
Hmmmm..... I may have a source for affordable canoeing. Two questions though... Is anyone who is attending camp a lifeguard? and Who has a trailer hitch on a vehicle tough enough to pull a canoe trailer with about 10 canoes on it? (1,000 lbs of canoe plus trailer weight) Actually, Mommas minivan might be able to manage this.

My lifeguard certification expired >20 years ago, so I'm probably no help here, but I like where you're going with this.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on January 24, 2017, 03:10:23 PM
Isn't monstermonster a lifeguard?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on January 25, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
Hmmmm..... I may have a source for affordable canoeing. Two questions though... Is anyone who is attending camp a lifeguard? and Who has a trailer hitch on a vehicle tough enough to pull a canoe trailer with about 10 canoes on it? (1,000 lbs of canoe plus trailer weight) Actually, Mommas minivan might be able to manage this.

My lifeguard certification expired >20 years ago, so I'm probably no help here, but I like where you're going with this.

Same here.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on January 25, 2017, 02:08:08 PM
Two expired ones equals a current one, right?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on January 25, 2017, 02:24:52 PM
Two expired ones equals a current one, right?

As long as one of them has a cell phone to dial 911.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 25, 2017, 02:31:23 PM
Two expired ones equals a current one, right?

As long as one of them has a cell phone to dial 911.

There are roaming charges in Canada. Best be a canuck who makes the call.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on January 25, 2017, 02:33:43 PM
Two expired ones equals a current one, right?

As long as one of them has a cell phone to dial 911.

There are roaming charges in Canada. Best be a canuck who makes the call.

Is the emergency number the same in Canada?

Or are you planning on calling US emergency services because, despite the travel time, you have more confidence they won't show up with a packet of maple syrup?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 25, 2017, 02:35:58 PM
Actually, we've switched over to UK Emergency services. The more attractive attendants was the winner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8GtuPdrUQ

So remember: 0118 999 881 999 119 725...3
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on January 25, 2017, 02:44:21 PM
IT Crowd FTW.  :D
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Stachey on January 26, 2017, 11:39:44 AM
IT Crowd is the best sitcom ever.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on January 30, 2017, 09:48:12 PM
Second lot of tickets go on sale in a week!  Excited to see who else will be joining us in October.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 31, 2017, 05:33:23 AM
Oh crap. Yeah. Need to stop stressing about world events and get stuff done instead.

Its go time
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: NinetyFour on January 31, 2017, 05:40:08 AM
Props--two questions:

When you announce the next batch of tickets, do we just respond here to nab a spot?  (And then, obviously follow up by sending a check.)

Should some schedule conflict arise later, can I post here that my ticket is available and offer it up for sale?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 31, 2017, 05:51:32 AM
Props--two questions:

When you announce the next batch of tickets, do we just respond here to nab a spot?  (And then, obviously follow up by sending a check.)

Should some schedule conflict arise later, can I post here that my ticket is available and offer it up for sale?

Thanks.

@100-6: Good questions. The day before I open up new spots, I'll post here to make everyone aware. Then I will update the OP in this thread with a time that I will start accepting applications, an email addy, and a subject line. If you get a spot (there are thirty beds coming available) you will see a reply to your email with payment instructions. You will also get a form requesting information I need to make the event happen.

I cannot refund payments. Sorry. That cash will be used to make the event happen. I have already paid out a venue deposit, ordered supplies, etc. We are keeping this very low cost (possibly the cheapest CM around?)

If for whatever reason you cannot make it to camp you are welcome to sell/transfer your ticket. I just ask that you PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I need to keep an updated list of attendees for bunk assignments, special diets, etc.

Please see the first post of this thread for a bunch of other FAQ's.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: NinetyFour on January 31, 2017, 05:56:43 AM
Great--thanks.

Yep--sorry if I wasn't clear--wasn't looking for a refund--just wondered if I'd be able to sell my golden ticket to another would-be camper.

Sounds like such fun.  Thanks for all your work on it!

XCIV
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on January 31, 2017, 07:24:49 AM
Woot!! It's coming, its coming!!!

And as always - for those who wish to pay in US$, you can send me the US$ equivalent (email transfer or mailed check) and I will send the Cdn$ to Prospector. We've got a good system going with email transfers and it turned out to be really easy for everyone :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 31, 2017, 12:39:28 PM
Potter fans - this is teh week before CMC and might interest you:

http://www.narcity.com/toronto/this-ontario-town-will-be-transformed-into-the-wizarding-world-of-harry-potter-this-year/

Tickets are on sale today.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on January 31, 2017, 10:26:40 PM
Potter fans - this is teh week before CMC and might interest you:

http://www.narcity.com/toronto/this-ontario-town-will-be-transformed-into-the-wizarding-world-of-harry-potter-this-year/

Tickets are on sale today.

You tease.  All sold out.  :(


EDIT: Reading their FB page, it's crazy. People were there right the second they released the batches of tickets, and couldn't get them.  https://www.facebook.com/hptt2017/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/hptt2017/?fref=ts)

The idiots need to understand pricing better.  Instead of charging $15-20, up it to $50, or $100.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on January 31, 2017, 10:28:25 PM
Potter fans - this is teh week before CMC and might interest you:

http://www.narcity.com/toronto/this-ontario-town-will-be-transformed-into-the-wizarding-world-of-harry-potter-this-year/

Tickets are on sale today.

You tease.  All sold out.  :(

The new release today sold out too?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on January 31, 2017, 10:38:04 PM
Potter fans - this is teh week before CMC and might interest you:

http://www.narcity.com/toronto/this-ontario-town-will-be-transformed-into-the-wizarding-world-of-harry-potter-this-year/

Tickets are on sale today.

You tease.  All sold out.  :(

The new release today sold out too?

Oh yeah. Both of their new releases today sold out within 10 seconds.  Even people sitting there at the time and clicking refresh may not have gotten some.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 01, 2017, 08:14:46 AM
Well, it was such a hot ticket precisely because of the very reasonable ticket price. At $50-$100, they could easily have struggled with ticket sales. Now is their chance to capitalize on it - set up a special VIP experience and sell a few hundred entries for $100-$200pp. Good for Goderich - its a lovely little town and its fantastic to have such a popular festival during what is likely to be a slower season.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 01, 2017, 08:39:51 AM
Yeah - AFAIK, all that's in Goderich is a salt mine.

Elaine I need to email you today. Don't let me forget. T-minus 6 days to the next CMC seat release.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 01, 2017, 09:29:17 AM
Well, it was such a hot ticket precisely because of the very reasonable ticket price. At $50-$100, they could easily have struggled with ticket sales. Now is their chance to capitalize on it - set up a special VIP experience and sell a few hundred entries for $100-$200pp. Good for Goderich - its a lovely little town and its fantastic to have such a popular festival during what is likely to be a slower season.

Sure, but there's a "correct"/optimal price that maximizes revenue.  They clearly were nowehere near that.

Maybe no one purchases them at $1000 apiece, and maybe they have so much demand they sell out in literally 10 seconds over 8 months early at $20 apiece, but maybe they sell out over the course of a few days at $75 apiece, and over a few months at $125 apiece, or whatever.  Not unreasonable at all for a three-day festival.

When they're doing the whole thing to raise money for charity and their town, you'd think having 3-5x or more the money brought in, with the same amount of happy people attending (and much less unhappy people at not being able to attend), would be nice.

I mean, I'm personally bummed, but that aside, just commenting on how capitalism works--there was way more demand than supply, so their prices were clearly too low.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on February 01, 2017, 10:39:36 AM
So, on that note, Camp Mustache Canada should cost more?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 01, 2017, 10:48:43 AM
So, on that note, Camp Mustache Canada should cost more?

Bazinga!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 01, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
Actually, I think the price is about right for our location, offering, etc. We sold 90% of release 1 within an hour of the release. The remaining spots took a few days to sell.

Now what happens with release 2 will tell how accurate our pricing is.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on February 01, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
The forum is continuously teaching me new things. Sometimes two at once! I looked up bazinga, and found its meaning, and also that we have a whole jellyfish genus with this name nearby. It was only recently discovered - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazinga_(jellyfish) There is also a bee...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 01, 2017, 12:13:47 PM
So, on that note, Camp Mustache Canada should cost more?

CMC is definitely priced silly cheap. I'm amazed at the value.  :)

Not complaining, and since the money doesn't go to charity, it's more like Vanguard, where keeping costs down helps the people attending, which is the whole point.

It's the opposite of a situation in which one is trying to maximize a cost to raise money.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 01, 2017, 01:09:05 PM
So, on that note, Camp Mustache Canada should cost more?

CMC is definitely priced silly cheap. I'm amazed at the value.  :)

Not complaining, and since the money doesn't go to charity, it's more like Vanguard, where keeping costs down helps the people attending, which is the whole point.

It's the opposite of a situation in which one is trying to maximize a cost to raise money.

I've done my best to keep costs down. Here's why...

1.) Raw financial impact of the real cost of a weekend like this:
  a) A lot of the folks attending are early on the path to ER. A $500 (total cost incl. travel, etc.) weekend is a big chunk of some of their savings. Grown over time that cash could be big (thinking of a year 1 saver here). OTOH, $500 spent to attend could give you ways to increase savings by $1000's in your first year. The upfront cost can't be a barrier to attending and making the gains. I am not being eloquent. do I make sense?
  b) Travel costs on top of attendance costs can balloon a $500 weekend to thousands, and the local draw is not huge. Many (most) will be travelling more than 2 hours.
  c) For the non-ER crowd (me) a missed day of work will add $100 - $300 to the cost of the event.

2. I think it would be hypocritical for me to lock into a posh venue for an event for a crowd that celebrates simple pleasures. Finding a venue that fed into the tenets of frugality, simplicity, environmental awareness, and charity was not easy, but was very important to me. I started off looking to support independent family businesses. When I saw this venue with its charitable registration, it immediately changed everything. The added bonus of a very reasonable price fed into item 1.

3. Where CM (Seattle) allows room for scholarships in its budget, I do not. For folks whose budget is very tight, I need this to be doable on a travel hack or carpooling. The benefits must outweigh the cost by 3:1. I believe I am hitting that target IF attendees apply the information shared. If you are coming for a weekend at the Marriott and hoping for a cabana boy to bring you towels... well... the CB ratio will be off then.

4. Local draw - in the GTA there are not as many Mustachians as Seattle or NYC or some other areas. If I am going to fill bunks I need this pricepoint to appeal to folks from afar. Price will be a factor there for sure.

5. International Borders - Similar to item 4, some folks are getting/renewing passports to come. Not only is this an added cost, it is added effort and added risk in taking a bunk. I needed to come up with a price that offset the cost and risk folks are taking on. Some folks who are attending have never been to Canada before. For them the perceived risk (there really isn't any) of spending time in a foreign culture (its not really different) needs to be offset as well. The uncertainty of travelling abroad can be seen as an exotic as well (its not) so I guess I could market this as a reason to pay more??? Dunno, I'm not in marketing. How do I make McDonald's Canadian Menu exciting and exotic? Anyone?

In summary, I have worked hard to hold a hard budget line and I think we will hit the targeted $235 per bunk price. We may need to get creative on some facets of the event, and it is only 3 days (Seattle is 4) but I think that as long as everyone arrives with an open mind and willing to participate and relax we will have a great time. There will be no gold flakes on your ice cream. There will not be $100 bills to light the non-existent Cuban cigars with. And its BYOB - the Courvoisier will only be available if YOU bring it. But I still believe that it will be a good time and dollar-for-dollar entirely worth the cost.

Finally I don't want this to be a 3-day long brag session. Please share your successes, but really I don't care if your NW is a bajillion dollars or a buck-ninety-five. I want to laugh with you, canoe a little, and bust a move on the dance floor. I have no desire (or time for) brag sessions.

Wow this got long and preachy. I'll hit post anyways. Feel free to blast me as needed.

<Edit for 3 reasons:

1. Thanks ARS for recognizing teh work that has gone into keeping this a low cost weekend. I'm glad people recognize what I'm up to.
2. The only way to keep it low cost is to keep tasking in-house, so thanks too to teh folks who have stepped up as presenters and helpers. I will be looking for more folks "in a supporting role" as the event draws nearer.
3. I openly admit we are flying a test-balloon here. If this is a success, and if feedback is positive, we can try to make this happen again in the future. Since this is the beta-event, it will not be perfect, and folks may give feedback that for an extra $50pp it's worth it to get a balloon artist and face painter next year. For this first go though, simple and low cost is my mantra.>
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on February 01, 2017, 02:44:37 PM
Prospector

THANKS!!!

I am amazed at the value too.

Canada (which I visited for the first time last year) IS AWESOME. Canadians are wonderful people (probably more like New Zealanders than Australians) - super nice (even when they are pissed off at you for visiting their museum when it is closed, and all the information SAID it was closed, but the caravan park person said it was open and they are drop dead busy trying to get all the exhibits sorted out for the opening next week). And (I beg to differ) Canadian culture is foreign - probably especially to Americans, because it is more like that of Australia and New Zealand in that all three countries separated amicably from Britain only a bit over a century ago. The other thing is that the US is a superpower, and the people don't get taught about other places, whereas the citizens of countries with smaller populations need to know about other peoples.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 01, 2017, 03:11:17 PM
Prospector

THANKS!!!

I am amazed at the value too.

Canada (which I visited for the first time last year) IS AWESOME. Canadians are wonderful people (probably more like New Zealanders than Australians) - super nice (even when they are pissed off at you for visiting their museum when it is closed, and all the information SAID it was closed, but the caravan park person said it was open and they are drop dead busy trying to get all the exhibits sorted out for the opening next week). And (I beg to differ) Canadian culture is foreign - probably especially to Americans, because it is more like that of Australia and New Zealand in that all three countries separated amicably from Britain only a bit over a century ago. The other thing is that the US is a superpower, and the people don't get taught about other places, whereas the citizens of countries with smaller populations need to know about other peoples.

Also here we call them campgrounds or trailer parks. ;0)

Thanks for thanking me.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 01, 2017, 05:56:16 PM
I'm all about a no-frills weekend keeping costs low. Like you said Prospector....it would feel very contrary to the things we try to practice here to splurge on luxuries for CMC. Thanks so much for all the work you have poured into this!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on February 01, 2017, 06:35:59 PM
Actually, I think the price is about right for our location, offering, etc. We sold 90% of release 1 within an hour of the release. The remaining spots took a few days to sell.

Now what happens with release 2 will tell how accurate our pricing is.

I think all of us stragglers on the first release had already told you that we had work/were very busy and important.

I think Goderich is pricing low on purpose for the same reason CMC is. Areas like Goderich have a couple of rich families, and a lot of big families on tight budgets. I'd also suspect that the event is low-budget volunteer run. No one paying $20/ticket will be upset if the displays are handpainted by super-cool 12 and 82 year olds. Restaurants and stores will be overflowing, and they might get people to come back in a few months to look at the Christmas lights or craft fairs.

That being said, I wish I could take two weekends in a row and do Harry Potter +CMC. And I think our weekend will be super amazingly fun. Once we finalize the schedule, we'll realize we're very busy and have lots of amazing things to see do and learn.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 01, 2017, 07:29:46 PM
I've never heard anyone bragging at CMC. Not sure why it'd be a concern. :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 01, 2017, 08:24:03 PM
I've never heard anyone bragging at CMC. Not sure why it'd be a concern. :)

This is good to hear. Because I ditched my HS reunion for precisely this reason.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on February 01, 2017, 10:44:33 PM
So, on that note, Camp Mustache Canada should cost more?

Well didn't you see Prospector's earlier post:

If for whatever reason you cannot make it to camp you are welcome to sell/transfer your ticket. I just ask that you PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I need to keep an updated list of attendees for bunk assignments, special diets, etc.

He never said you couldn't sell/transfer for more than you paid. Secondary market FTW ;)

Just kidding (mainly), and more seriously, thanks Prospector for keeping costs low. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 02, 2017, 06:28:53 AM
So, on that note, Camp Mustache Canada should cost more?

Well didn't you see Prospector's earlier post:

If for whatever reason you cannot make it to camp you are welcome to sell/transfer your ticket. I just ask that you PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I need to keep an updated list of attendees for bunk assignments, special diets, etc.

He never said you couldn't sell/transfer for more than you paid. Secondary market FTW ;)

Just kidding (mainly), and more seriously, thanks Prospector for keeping costs low. Much appreciated.

Whose kidding??? I have 4 tix for the fam, if these things double in value, I'm cashing in and taking a European vacation instead!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 02, 2017, 06:32:39 AM
Next seat release... Monday Feb 6 (See post 1). I will be releasing all remaining bunks at this time. Spread the word, update signatures, etc.

It may sell out faster than a Harry Potter themed street party. You never know!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: NinetyFour on February 02, 2017, 06:44:57 AM
Next seat release... Monday Feb 6 (See post 1). I will be releasing all remaining bunks at this time. Spread the word, update signatures, etc.

Sorry, but what does the bolded part mean?  I don't see anything in post 1 about signatures required for anything.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 02, 2017, 06:47:59 AM
Next seat release... Monday Feb 6 (See post 1). I will be releasing all remaining bunks at this time. Spread the word, update signatures, etc.

Sorry, but what does the bolded part mean?  I don't see anything in post 1 about signatures required for anything.  Thanks.

Our entire advertising budget is folks voluntarily putting stuff in their signatures about meatball parties and male-to-female ratios at CMC. So far, it seems to be working.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: NinetyFour on February 02, 2017, 06:50:55 AM
Oh--gotcha!  I was imagining some sort of electronic signature on our e-mail to you--or signing away some large portion of our stash...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 02, 2017, 08:04:11 AM
Updated my signature!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 02, 2017, 08:06:26 AM
Updated my signature!

That's beautiful. Thank you!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: tardis on February 02, 2017, 12:12:39 PM
I'm curious now- what is the male to female ratio?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 02, 2017, 12:15:17 PM
I'm curious now- what is the male to female ratio?

I believe we are now at a perfect 1:1, but that spreadsheet is at home.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 02, 2017, 12:22:16 PM
Updated my sig - made it all fancy...
Getting dizzy yet?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 02, 2017, 12:30:07 PM
Updated my sig - made it all fancy...
Getting dizzy yet?

Oooh scrolling text!! I think there is a flash function on SMF as well, but I am grateful that it has not been enabled here. Scrolling and flashing text would just be too much.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 02, 2017, 01:05:50 PM
Updated my sig - made it all fancy...
Getting dizzy yet?

Oooh scrolling text!! I think there is a flash function on SMF as well, but I am grateful that it has not been enabled here. Scrolling and flashing text would just be too much.
de

 Maybe too much, or maybe just enough......
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 02, 2017, 01:55:26 PM
@G-dog That sure is some fancy scrolling! I think CMC is going to outperform the Harry Potter event at this rate!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on February 02, 2017, 08:59:21 PM
In the interest of public safety, CMC will be a flashing-free event. If swag includes bike lights, we will all  use the solid light function until such time as the event concludes.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 02, 2017, 09:01:52 PM
In the interest of public safety, CMC will be a flashing-free event.

There goes the skinny dipping at the lake plan.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ToTheMoon on February 02, 2017, 09:37:20 PM
Hmmm, what are the odds of finding a cheap flight from the west coast in the next 9 months. . .I am seriously contemplating this! 

Anyone else going to be flying in and need to find their way there from the airport?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 02, 2017, 10:36:12 PM
Hmmm, what are the odds of finding a cheap flight from the west coast in the next 9 months. . .I am seriously contemplating this! 

Cheap flight?

I don't know your credit score, but if it's decent, and you're willing to sign up for a credit card, how about a free flight, the Camp fee paid for, a second free flight, and cash back in your pocket, instead?

;)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 05:28:40 AM
Hmmm, what are the odds of finding a cheap flight from the west coast in the next 9 months. . .I am seriously contemplating this! 

Anyone else going to be flying in and need to find their way there from the airport?

We've talked about it a few times - check flights to YTO as well as to BUF This will cover the three closest airports to camp. Folks are setting up carpools and transit options.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 05:36:40 AM
Since I'm at home and the spreadsheet is handy... right now we have 11 males to 15 females. This seat release will sell out bunks (30 spots) and I am still looking for 2 speakers and a morning fitness leader for day 2. If anyone here is willing to share a topic they are passionate about or lead an aerobics class or a jog or something, please step up.

Also the number above don't lie - the ladies are obviously better at spotting an awesome weekend away!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 03, 2017, 05:41:41 AM
This seat release will sell out bunks (30 spots) and I am still looking for 2 speakers and a morning fitness leader for day 2. If anyone here is willing to share a topic they are passionate about or lead an aerobics class or a jog or something, please step up.

I'd wager you will have multiple willing speakers in the last 30 people.

I'm willing to lead a breakout session if not (I've done one at the last 3 CMSeattles and enjoyed it).  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 03, 2017, 07:25:18 AM
Well, if people want to hear about how to get a patent - I'm available!

Zzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 07:41:53 AM
This seat release will sell out bunks (30 spots) and I am still looking for 2 speakers and a morning fitness leader for day 2. If anyone here is willing to share a topic they are passionate about or lead an aerobics class or a jog or something, please step up.

I'd wager you will have multiple willing speakers in the last 30 people.

I'm willing to lead a breakout session if not (I've done one at the last 3 CMSeattles and enjoyed it).  :)

I already have you and Allie penciled in. So far I can't decide whether I'd rather hear from you or her.

Well, if people want to hear about how to get a patent - I'm available!

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

This might make a great session - 15 minutes on development and raw how-to followed by a 30 minute Q&A/storytelling. I know a guy in Georgia who makes a living developing lighting patents and selling them to Lithonia lighting. He has some of the zaniest ideas.

I've also fielded a request for someone who can speak to Mustachianism for the disabled. Things like seeking advocacy on a budget, saving on a fixed income, overcoming stigma and mobility limitations while working and investing. And the very real fact that many of us will face some disability at some point in our lives - try typing with a broken wrist. It could be a great session - if anyone wants to lead the discussion, let me know.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 03, 2017, 08:22:14 AM

I already have you and Allie penciled in. So far I can't decide whether I'd rather hear from you or her.


I vote for both! It would be fantastic to get Allie's point of view!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 03, 2017, 08:25:25 AM
Hey Prospector, I am going to be in my night class when this whole thing goes down on Monday, so I am going to have (my not very tech savvy) DH set up to buy my ticket. Just to be clear, he watches this thread (first post), and when your email address appears, he sends you an email with the request for tickets. If you respond, then we got lucky?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 08:41:17 AM
Hey Prospector, I am going to be in my night class when this whole thing goes down on Monday, so I am going to have (my not very tech savvy) DH set up to buy my ticket. Just to be clear, he watches this thread (first post), and when your email address appears, he sends you an email with the request for tickets. If you respond, then we got lucky?

Correct. Your tickets will be shinier and personally autographed if he bribes me in the most correct manner.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ToTheMoon on February 03, 2017, 09:21:15 AM
Hmmm, what are the odds of finding a cheap flight from the west coast in the next 9 months. . .I am seriously contemplating this! 

Anyone else going to be flying in and need to find their way there from the airport?

We've talked about it a few times - check flights to YTO as well as to BUF This will cover the three closest airports to camp. Folks are setting up carpools and transit options.

Thank you - and apologies, I have not yet had the chance to dig through all 14 pages of dialogue yet!

Beer, campfires, hiking, canoeing, and awesome like-minded people. . . sounds like a perfect weekend to me!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 10:34:08 AM
Hmmm, what are the odds of finding a cheap flight from the west coast in the next 9 months. . .I am seriously contemplating this! 

Anyone else going to be flying in and need to find their way there from the airport?

We've talked about it a few times - check flights to YTO as well as to BUF This will cover the three closest airports to camp. Folks are setting up carpools and transit options.

Thank you - and apologies, I have not yet had the chance to dig through all 14 pages of dialogue yet!

Beer, campfires, hiking, canoeing, and awesome like-minded people. . . sounds like a perfect weekend to me!

No apologies needed! I was a little short in my answer, sorry for that - it was a rushed morning. And most of those conversations have happened not in this thread.

I am very confident that with a modicum of planning you can hitch a ride from the airport. If you Land at YYZ or YTZ you can take transit to the Aldershot station, and I am trying to get a carpool running from there to the venue as well.

Hope that helps! Look forward to seeing you at CMC!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on February 03, 2017, 10:35:53 AM
Since I'm at home and the spreadsheet is handy... right now we have 11 males to 15 females. This seat release will sell out bunks (30 spots) and I am still looking for 2 speakers and a morning fitness leader for day 2. If anyone here is willing to share a topic they are passionate about or lead an aerobics class or a jog or something, please step up.

Also the number above don't lie - the ladies are obviously better at spotting an awesome weekend away!

What are the current speakers/topics, Is there an obvious hole you think should be filled?

I could lead a fitness session on sleeping in and nursing a hangover? Ok, maybe I should volunteer for the first instead..
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 10:38:03 AM
Since I'm at home and the spreadsheet is handy... right now we have 11 males to 15 females. This seat release will sell out bunks (30 spots) and I am still looking for 2 speakers and a morning fitness leader for day 2. If anyone here is willing to share a topic they are passionate about or lead an aerobics class or a jog or something, please step up.

Also the number above don't lie - the ladies are obviously better at spotting an awesome weekend away!

What are the current speakers/topics, Is there an obvious hole you think should be filled?

I could lead a fitness session on sleeping in and nursing a hangover? Ok, maybe I should volunteer for the first instead..

You are in there too - maybe I should send out a schedule to all my confirmed speakers!

Also, this reminds me - I forgot to post our monthly speaker bio for February. I am a bad, bad, organizer.

Will do that today.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on February 03, 2017, 11:00:15 AM
Hey Prospector, I am going to be in my night class when this whole thing goes down on Monday, so I am going to have (my not very tech savvy) DH set up to buy my ticket. Just to be clear, he watches this thread (first post), and when your email address appears, he sends you an email with the request for tickets. If you respond, then we got lucky?

Correct. Your tickets will be shinier and personally autographed if he bribes me in the most correct manner.

This sounds nefarious, but what Prospector really means is that he wants you to include a Christmas Valentine's Day card with your deposit (or a St. Patrick's Day card, if you're slow mailing your cheque).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 11:01:52 AM
Februray Speaker Intro:

TheGoblinChief has volunteered to lead a breakout sessionon urban homesteading, gardening, and food preservation. I'm excited to hear about raising meat rabbits and growing crops in Milwaukee where neighbours and winter moight stop less hearty folks. In his own words, here is David's story:

By the time CMC hits I will be 33 with kids at home ages 11,10, and 7. When I first joined the MMM community I worked part-time on the weekends and homeschooled during the week. Unlike a lot of people, I came to MMM not via the financial independence and debt-killing angle. Instead someone on Facebook shared the post about the "Low News Diet" which linked to the post about Circle of Concern and Circle of Influence. No joke but those two posts changed my life. I used to be a huge political and news junkie but all being "informed" does is get you angry about stuff that's way out of your ability to control, let alone influence. Yes, I could get involved in politics but I had no desire at the time, and nowadays I'm so odd compared to the thrust of American politics that I would have zero expectation of success.

My session is focused on being a stay-at-home parent, a homeschooling parent, doing urban homesteading, and thus the interaction between all three of those. I figure on giving a brief introduction and then treating this as a free-ranging AMA discussion and idea-swapping session between all the participants. In a lot of ways, my wife and I have a very traditional marriage, just with the gender roles swapped. Our stress levels went way down and our happiness went way up when we finally made enough financial progress that I could stop working on the weekends and focus exclusively on the home, and my wife had to juggle less between her career and day-to-day household tasks.

I started homeschooling almost on a whim, making the decision just a week before the start of the 2013-14 school year. Our oldest really struggled in school. She was expelled from kindergarten at a Catholic school after just a couple months. The second school she attended was better, and we stayed for the rest of that year and 2 more but she never really thrived. Both her and her younger sister would be so tired after a long day at school, and I felt like they never understood what they learned until I worked one on one with them doing their homework. Why were we paying tuition when the best teaching was happening at home?

It's been a journey of lots of trial and error but three years later we don't regret the decision. A lower stress, more intimate learning environment has been so much better for the two who had gone to regular school. Our youngest has only learned in the home and really thrives. I fear if he had been in regular school, he would be one of the types to be labeled ADD or ADHD despite being very bright for his age and definitely able to focus on tasks he wants to focus on.

Our urban homesteading journey was also triggered by homeschooling. We had a small ornamental garden but I built a raised bed to grow some fun veggies as part of their science education. Within a year, that small raised bed became most of the lawn being ripped up and it's grown from there with more gardens, perennials, chickens, and meat rabbits.

On a strict financial basis, very little of this has saved us any money yet, though it may as the capital outlays amortize. We love the lifestyle, being closer to the source of our food. I struggle a lot of anxiety and depression, and working with the plants and animals is very therapeutic. Our eventual goal is early retirement of sorts for my wife, though she's expressed a desire to never stop working at some level (i.e., part-time or doing consulting here and there), and to move out into the country.

City living stresses people out. I don't think it's natural for us to be so closely together without the ability to tend the earth and raise animals. It's very difficult, if even possible at all, to make city living truly sustainable. I want a land base that can feed my family and work towards communal sufficiency with likeminded homesteaders and farmers. I see how my kids benefit from exposure to the animals and gardens. All of them express some level of interest in gardening and keeping animals when they're grown up. I'd encourage the kids, if they want to, to start a farming enterprise of their own on our land as they get older, or even as adults in some form of inter-generational living.

Let me know what you want to see in this session and whether you think this format is best or if something more structured would be better.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 03, 2017, 11:05:20 AM
^Not Minneapolis .... Milwaukee (Wisconsin).
Still very cold! Brrrrr
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 11:13:55 AM
^Not Minneapolis .... Milwaukee (Wisconsin).
Still very cold! Brrrrr

Thanks for the catch.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ToTheMoon on February 03, 2017, 11:17:30 AM
Hmmm, what are the odds of finding a cheap flight from the west coast in the next 9 months. . .I am seriously contemplating this! 

Cheap flight?

I don't know your credit score, but if it's decent, and you're willing to sign up for a credit card, how about a free flight, the Camp fee paid for, a second free flight, and cash back in your pocket, instead?

;)

Sign me up!  Is it even possible to get CC deals this good on this side of the border, and will it require a happy ending?  I should really find the thread about this . . . there has got to be one already, right?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Stachey on February 03, 2017, 11:24:31 AM
Hi Prospector,

Is there a schedule of speakers and events posted somewhere? 

I saw one somewhere at one time but can't remember what page it was on (and now there are 15 pages to sift through  YIKES!!)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 11:34:48 AM
Hi Prospector,

Is there a schedule of speakers and events posted somewhere? 

I saw one somewhere at one time but can't remember what page it was on (and now there are 15 pages to sift through  YIKES!!)

Thanks!

Wow - it was buried deep - this post:
http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/meetups-and-social-events/ontario's-own-camp-mustache-2017/msg1322387/#msg1322387

I've copied and updated. I can add times later today. Note this is still a working schedule - where announcements have been made I have inserted names. Where I have not inserted names, announcements are forthcoming:

I'll be posting speaker bio's monthly as we lead up to the camp, but as of right now, here are the topics being proposed. Note the TBD are placeholders for open speaking slots. Also, someone needs to convince Mr. Snow to come lead our morning exercise on day 3. Or a jogger needs to lead a group run, or something.:

DAY 1
Opening Session - Speaker 1 - Gen Finance - MonsterMonster
Opening Session - Speaker 2 - TBD

DAY 2
Fitness - Yoga - ElleFiji
Keynote - Speaker 3 - ETF/Index investing - Dan Bortolotti
Breakout 1 - Speaker 4 -Landlording - Rachelle Berube
Breakout 1 - Speaker 5 - Canadian Accounting Q&A
Breakout 2 - Speaker 6 - Post Fire Life
Breakout 2 - Speaker 7 - Mustachian Pupsters - Rehabilitating, Training, and Caring for Cats and dogs on a budget
Breakout 3 - Speaker 8 - Mustachian Travel
Breakout 3 - Speaker 9 - Urban Homesteading - TheGoblinChief

DAY 3
Fitness - TBD
Breakout 4 - Speaker 10 - Life Coaching
Breakout 4 - Speaker 11 - Home Maintenance/Gardening/Décor
Group Activity - Canoeing (TBD)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 03, 2017, 12:09:33 PM
Sign me up!  Is it even possible to get CC deals this good on this side of the border, and will it require a happy ending?  I should really find the thread about this . . . there has got to be one already, right?

Its not as good but there are still deals to be had. I'm not as well-versed on Cdn CCs though as we focus more of our travel hacking on US cards.

- Way back when, I loved the Capital One World Aspire. Not so easy to redeem (a lot of rules that wasn't so easy to understand), but I liked what I got.

- Last year, I got the TD Visa Infinite - I think it was worth about $200/pp in travel. You can redeem through their portal for Expedia flights.

- I also got a bunch of Air Miles cards a couple of years back. but that was for a very specific redemption in mind. We added to the miles through shopping at Rexall during special bonus days. Made out pretty good there.

The best part of Canadian credit cards is going through Great Canadian Rebates. I keep forgetting to add the rebate into my mental tally of a card's bonus points - but it really does add up when you get a $50-60 cashback. The US has nothing like this.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 12:14:49 PM
Sign me up!  Is it even possible to get CC deals this good on this side of the border, and will it require a happy ending?  I should really find the thread about this . . . there has got to be one already, right?

Its not as good but there are still deals to be had. I'm not as well-versed on Cdn CCs though as we focus more of our travel hacking on US cards.

- Way back when, I loved the Capital One World Aspire. Not so easy to redeem (a lot of rules that wasn't so easy to understand), but I liked what I got.

- Last year, I got the TD Visa Infinite - I think it was worth about $200/pp in travel. You can redeem through their portal for Expedia flights.

- I also got a bunch of Air Miles cards a couple of years back. but that was for a very specific redemption in mind. We added to the miles through shopping at Rexall during special bonus days. Made out pretty good there.

The best part of Canadian credit cards is going through Great Canadian Rebates. I keep forgetting to add the rebate into my mental tally of a card's bonus points - but it really does add up when you get a $50-60 cashback. The US has nothing like this.

I got a BMO World Elite Mastercard for all things Barnhouse. It had a $300 fee, but came with enough points for a roundtrip flight pretty much anyplace in Canada. We've used the points to book hotels in teh states and its gone smoothly so far.

Someone pointed me to the ratehub card comparison - it might be a good place for you to start as well.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ToTheMoon on February 03, 2017, 12:22:20 PM
Sign me up!  Is it even possible to get CC deals this good on this side of the border, and will it require a happy ending?  I should really find the thread about this . . . there has got to be one already, right?
. . .
- Last year, I got the TD Visa Infinite - I think it was worth about $200/pp in travel. You can redeem through their portal for Expedia flights.

The best part of Canadian credit cards is going through Great Canadian Rebates. I keep forgetting to add the rebate into my mental tally of a card's bonus points - but it really does add up when you get a $50-60 cashback. The US has nothing like this.

We currently have the TD Visa Infinite - it is pretty good as far as Canadian cards go.  Just in case you aren't aware, you can book your travel on ANY site you wish, and once the charge appears on your statement call the number on the back of the card (you can do it online as well) to have your travel dollars redeemed against it.  I have noticed that their Expedia site rarely matches seat sales, so you can frequently get a better deal elsewhere, though you will only get the 3x points instead of the 9x.  Now if only I could convince them to cover the cost of CMC with my travel points!

Thanks for the reminder about Great Canadian Rebates - I had totally forgotten about that site. :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 03, 2017, 12:45:53 PM

We currently have the TD Visa Infinite - it is pretty good as far as Canadian cards go.  Just in case you aren't aware, you can book your travel on ANY site you wish, and once the charge appears on your statement call the number on the back of the card (you can do it online as well) to have your travel dollars redeemed against it.  I have noticed that their Expedia site rarely matches seat sales, so you can frequently get a better deal elsewhere, though you will only get the 3x points instead of the 9x.  Now if only I could convince them to cover the cost of CMC with my travel points!

Thanks for the reminder about Great Canadian Rebates - I had totally forgotten about that site. :)

What I REALLY liked about it was the flexibility. I originally got it for a flight I had in mind. When the time came, a better option presented itself. Over the course of the year, I continued debating how we wanted to use the points. I spent a fair bit of time on the Expedia portal but ultimately, never found anything I wanted. Yes, its worth more to redeem through the portal. But everything I was even remotely interested in was about 30+% more than suitable alternatives I preferred. So, I ended up using it for my Ontario parks camping trip (super awesome since its super rare to find rewards that will cover this), an AirBnB stay (loved it!), and the final $20-30 in value went to restaurant meals in a town we were in. I was shocked how easy it was to call and have the rewards applied to our purchase.

So - moral of the story is you can use it for restaurant purchases or transportation costs on your way to/from CMC if that helps!

Right now our main card is the PC Financial. DH is happy (he likes redeeming for groceries). For me - I'm not so pleased since he is averse to spending on travel so travel rewards mean a lot to me. Oh well,I'm keeping my ears open for the next good card. Maybe its time to go back to the Capital One World Aspire. The challenge is the $120 annual fee - better have a good redemption in mind before paying that!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 03, 2017, 07:34:58 PM
Wow that schedule sounds so good. I'm getting nervous I won't get a spot now, I feel like I've heard from so many people that are planning to attend.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 03, 2017, 07:43:43 PM
Wow that schedule sounds so good. I'm getting nervous I won't get a spot now, I feel like I've heard from so many people that are planning to attend.

Look at it again - I updated Speaker 7.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: snacky on February 03, 2017, 08:32:49 PM
I don't see the egging of houses on the schedule. Elle told me there would be house egging.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on February 03, 2017, 08:36:47 PM
DAY 1
Opening Session - Speaker 1 - Gen Finance - MonsterMonster
Opening Session - Speaker 2 - TBD

DAY 2
Fitness - Yoga - ElleFiji
Keynote - Speaker 3 - ETF/Index investing - Dan Bortolotti
Breakout 1 - Speaker 4 -Landlording - Rachelle Berube
Breakout 1 - Speaker 5 - Canadian Accounting Q&A
Breakout 2 - Speaker 6 - Post Fire Life
Breakout 2 - Speaker 7 - Mustachian Pupsters - Rehabilitating, Training, and Caring for Cats and dogs on a budget
Breakout 3 - Speaker 8 - Mustachian Travel
Breakout 3 - Speaker 9 - Urban Homesteading - TheGoblinChief

DAY 3
Fitness - Egg mean people's houses - snacky, via Skype
Breakout 4 - Speaker 10 - Life Coaching
Breakout 4 - Speaker 11 - Home Maintenance/Gardening/Décor
Group Activity - Canoeing (TBD)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 03, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
@rockstache I sure hope u get a spot - it would be awesome to finally meet u!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 04, 2017, 01:51:11 AM
I already have you and Allie penciled in. So far I can't decide whether I'd rather hear from you or her.

Fun!

You are in there too - maybe I should send out a schedule to all my confirmed speakers!

That sounded like a good idea... then you posted it, and even the schedule didn't help!

DAY 1
Opening Session - Speaker 1 - Gen Finance - MonsterMonster
Opening Session - Speaker 2 - TBD

DAY 2
Fitness - Yoga - ElleFiji
Keynote - Speaker 3 - ETF/Index investing - Dan Bortolotti
Breakout 1 - Speaker 4 -Landlording - Rachelle Berube
Breakout 1 - Speaker 5 - Canadian Accounting Q&A
Breakout 2 - Speaker 6 - Post Fire Life
Breakout 2 - Speaker 7 - Mustachian Pupsters - Rehabilitating, Training, and Caring for Cats and dogs on a budget
Breakout 3 - Speaker 8 - Mustachian Travel
Breakout 3 - Speaker 9 - Urban Homesteading - TheGoblinChief

DAY 3
Fitness - TBD
Breakout 4 - Speaker 10 - Life Coaching
Breakout 4 - Speaker 11 - Home Maintenance/Gardening/Décor
Group Activity - Canoeing (TBD)[/color]

Can't tell if I (/Ali) am penciled in as speaker 2, 6, 8, or 10.  (1 and 4 could have made sense, too, but much better choices for those.)  I do have some hopes though.

3, 5, 7, 9, 11, yoga, and canoeing are clearly wrong.

Hmm, a puzzle I will eagerly await the reveals for.  :P

Though I really do think there will be a bunch of awesome people in the 30 who sign up in two days, and asking them if they have anything badass to share will lead to some great stuff.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on February 04, 2017, 09:11:28 AM
Prospector, how about updating the first post in this thread with the tentative schedule?
People on the fence may want to see it, and or be convinced after seeing it. And things get lost easily in this thread
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 04, 2017, 09:37:46 AM
Excellent suggestion - as with all things on life, I defer to the wisdom of smart people in order to maintain the illusion of competence.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 04, 2017, 05:12:19 PM
@rockstache I sure hope u get a spot - it would be awesome to finally meet u!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Me too!! We've had quite a journey together, it will be so great to meet in person!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 04, 2017, 05:14:57 PM
Wow that schedule sounds so good. I'm getting nervous I won't get a spot now, I feel like I've heard from so many people that are planning to attend.

Look at it again - I updated Speaker 7.
It sounds like snacky. I WANT IT TO BE SNACKY.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 04, 2017, 09:14:30 PM
Snacky has not contacted me to be a speaker.


Folks - Post 1 has been updated to include full instructions for this release of tix (strikethru text) and the full ticket cost payable anytime but due before May 1.

When the presale goes live, the text will no longer be struck, and the camp email addy will be published.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 06:20:41 AM
Ticket sale tonight! Lets fill this thing up!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ChipmunkSavings on February 06, 2017, 07:46:47 AM
Hi guys! I've been following this thread for a while and I'm certainly going to try to get a ticket tonight! Now I'll just have to get to know all of you a bit :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 08:00:14 AM
We look forward to getting to know you too... hope you get a spot!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 06, 2017, 08:03:15 AM
We look forward to getting to know you too... hope you get a spot!

Good to see No rodentia preferences shown in the registration process....

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 08:07:01 AM
We look forward to getting to know you too... hope you get a spot!

Good to see No rodentia preferences shown in the registration process....

Rats... you're on to me!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 06, 2017, 08:08:32 AM
We look forward to getting to know you too... hope you get a spot!

Good to see No rodentia preferences shown in the registration process....

Rats... you're on to me!

Rats too? 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 08:12:57 AM
We look forward to getting to know you too... hope you get a spot!

Good to see No rodentia preferences shown in the registration process....

Rats... you're on to me!

Rats too?

If they gopher seats, I won't turn them away.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on February 06, 2017, 08:35:21 AM
It's been mice hearing these puns...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 06, 2017, 10:58:39 AM
-Ignore this interruption-

Hey PJ - are you coming to Camp Mustache Canada? I wasn't sure, but the last block of tickets go on sale tonight if you are.

-Carry on.-

responding to an inquiry in another thread...

Hi Prospector, I've been squirreling away some extra money that came in this month, in case I decided to go.  The problem is that I can't just take off any weekend from work - my vacations are prescribed to certain times of the year, generally.  So I may end up having to leave on Saturday night, or at least, get up very very very early on Sunday morning to go to work. 

Wish the "day pass" idea was a possibility, but I understand the difficulty with logistics.  And ultimately, I don't want to miss the chance to meet some of the MMM legends that are planning to come!  So, yeah.  I'm in.  Assuming I get a ticket!  (How much did you say I needed to bribe you?)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 01:59:50 PM
$50 holds a spot, with the balance due by May 1. If work doesn't work out you can resell your space anytime as long as I know who takes it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: meadow lark on February 06, 2017, 04:32:03 PM
I could be a co-presenter on Mustachian Food...  you know, if I were to get a spot tonight.  You know you want to sell me a ticket, dontcha?

I could cover batch cooking for the freezer, soups, weaning off a high food budget, growing your own sprouts.  Come on - I'm desperate here!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 05:26:33 PM
35 minutes...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 05:45:17 PM
15 minutes...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on February 06, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
14 minutes.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 06, 2017, 05:47:04 PM
13 minutes
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 05:51:22 PM
Oh good, I'm not alone here.

10 Minutes...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on February 06, 2017, 05:52:16 PM
8 Minutes.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 06, 2017, 05:52:54 PM
Oh good, I'm not alone here.

10 Minutes...

No, we are with you.  Watching and waiting for our moment...

cue creepy music
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 05:53:49 PM
Remember to go after my heart and liver. They're worth the most.

5 minutes...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 06, 2017, 05:55:57 PM
Oh good, I'm not alone here.

10 Minutes...

*chanting* one of us, one of us

5 minutes....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 06, 2017, 05:56:23 PM
Remember to go after my heart and liver. They're worth the most.

5 minutes...

But I'm vegetarian :-/
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 05:58:14 PM
I think it was on Snacky's journal we were discussing the value of body parts. Things you learn here...

2 minutes.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 06:00:00 PM
AND GO!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 06:01:32 PM
just fixed it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 06, 2017, 06:01:41 PM
Sent!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ToTheMoon on February 06, 2017, 06:02:31 PM
Forgot an h?

Skill testing question
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 06:03:31 PM
I have no skill....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on February 06, 2017, 06:04:22 PM
AND GO!!

To anti-summarize your non-wordy post:

"Camp Mustache Canada is pleased to announce the availability of the next round of tickets.  Please calmly and carefully make your way to the first post of this thread for registration instructions.  We hope to see you at Camp Mustache Canada."
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ToTheMoon on February 06, 2017, 06:04:51 PM
I have no skill....

Ha!  I meant for us. . .:D
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 06, 2017, 06:06:48 PM
Forgot an h?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: meadow lark on February 06, 2017, 06:07:55 PM
I sent 4 emails.  Hoping you got at least 1.  Because that's my (embarrassing overexcited) style.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: stashyMel on February 06, 2017, 06:13:39 PM
Send emails until the don't bounce anymore.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: NinetyFour on February 06, 2017, 06:20:42 PM
I sent 4 emails.  Hoping you got at least 1.  Because that's my (embarrassing overexcited) style.

I did, too.  One without an "h".  One with an "h".  One with a double "h".  One with 27 "h"s.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 06, 2017, 06:27:53 PM
When do we know if we win??
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 06:33:37 PM
10 spots tonight... gimme a few minutes to up date my sheet!@!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ChipmunkSavings on February 06, 2017, 06:42:14 PM
I sent my email at 8pm on the dot! And added the h as well :)

10 spots remaining or 10 spots are gone?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Sailor Sam on February 06, 2017, 06:57:23 PM
I think it was on Snacky's journal we were discussing the value of body parts. Things you learn here...

2 minutes.

THAT WAS MY JOURNAL. HOW COULD YOU CONFUSE US. DON'T YOU LOVE ME ATALLLLLLL?

You mix up J1 and J2's names, too? Don't you? DON"T YOU?? My mum did that. Drove me nuts. Now my sister continually calls me by her middle daughter's name. The troublesome one. I know exactly why. :(
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 07:08:34 PM
I cannot multitask.

40 bunks (total) have been sold to the forum. 20 are still available and will be offered to Pete to mention on the blog/twitter. I am told that this creates a whole 'nother set of applications for attendees.

If you thought you had applied for a bunk, but did not get an email reply from me, please retry. at the revised email addy in post 1 of the thread (as eloquently explained by my friend Cherry Lane).

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on February 06, 2017, 07:10:23 PM
NEGATIVE TEN MINUTES did I do it right?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 07:14:08 PM
Also our Male to female ratio is now entirely out to lunch. As the beach boys once said: "Two girls for every boy..."

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 07:18:46 PM
NEGATIVE TEN MINUTES did I do it right?

Have you EVER done it wrong?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 06, 2017, 07:19:37 PM
I didn't get an email! Panicking now!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 06, 2017, 07:41:32 PM
Also our Male to female ratio is now entirely out to lunch. As the beach boys once said: "Two girls for every boy..."

We can sense all your testosterone even over the interwebs!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 06, 2017, 07:47:33 PM
I didn't get an email! Panicking now!!

You can stop panicking now, I hope. Did you get the Congrats email?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 06, 2017, 09:26:09 PM
I could be a co-presenter on Mustachian Food...  you know, if I were to get a spot tonight.  You know you want to sell me a ticket, dontcha?

I could cover batch cooking for the freezer, soups, weaning off a high food budget, growing your own sprouts.  Come on - I'm desperate here!

Ooo...I like your topic idea! My food budget isn't bad - but I would love to drop it lower!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 06, 2017, 09:37:26 PM
I missed all the fun here tonight as I was out grocery shopping. (speaking of high grocery bills - I dropped $200 in just one night *sigh*)

What a rush to come home to a slew of emails asking about how to pay. So happy so many of our American friends are coming to CMC!

The very FIRST Camp Mustache in Canada and we are 2/3 sold out almost NINE months before the event. How amazing is that?! Thanks so much for putting this on Prospector. It took guts, vision, and a ton of time and effort on minute details. You rock!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 07, 2017, 03:19:08 AM
I didn't get an email! Panicking now!!

You can stop panicking now, I hope. Did you get the Congrats email?
Yes! Thank you. I'm so excited!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 07, 2017, 03:38:42 AM
Yay, I can't wait to meet you PJ and rockstache!  :D

Also, for those of you signed up, get your payments in quickly for a fun surprise!  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 07, 2017, 05:15:09 AM
I could be a co-presenter on Mustachian Food...  you know, if I were to get a spot tonight.  You know you want to sell me a ticket, dontcha?

I could cover batch cooking for the freezer, soups, weaning off a high food budget, growing your own sprouts.  Come on - I'm desperate here!

This is a good idea - It has some overlap with The Goblin chief. I'm going to keep it in mind.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 07, 2017, 09:27:08 AM
Yay, I can't wait to meet you PJ and rockstache!  :D

Also, for those of you signed up, get your payments in quickly for a fun surprise!  :)

Likewise, ARS! 

(If I hadn't got a ticket, I'd have been driving out there anyway, and peering over fences for a glimpse at babyspy!)

You mix up J1 and J2's names, too? Don't you? DON"T YOU?? My mum did that. Drove me nuts. Now my sister continually calls me by her middle daughter's name. The troublesome one. I know exactly why. :(

Tell me about it, Sailor Sam!  I have one sister, two brothers.  It's bad enough when mom stutters part of each of their names before she gets to mine.  But sometimes the family dog gets in there too!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 07, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
Yay, I can't wait to meet you PJ and rockstache!  :D


Ditto! I can't wait to meet you and Ali and Annabelle. This is going to be so cool. Great job Prospector, thanks for setting it up!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 07, 2017, 11:20:48 AM
I think it was on Snacky's journal we were discussing the value of body parts. Things you learn here...

2 minutes.

THAT WAS MY JOURNAL. HOW COULD YOU CONFUSE US. DON'T YOU LOVE ME ATALLLLLLL?

You mix up J1 and J2's names, too? Don't you? DON"T YOU?? My mum did that. Drove me nuts. Now my sister continually calls me by her middle daughter's name. The troublesome one. I know exactly why. :(

I get them reversed on posts here too. Sometimes I have to stop and think about whether its ascending or descending order on the sort.

J1 = big, but 1 is a smaller number. Obviously this makes no sense, J2 should be the big one.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 07, 2017, 11:42:39 AM
Just to be clear on payment for our new recruits.



If you need either of our contact info, please PM us.



Also, if you have a hobby lobby nearby and the ability to mail me 6 packages of these, (http://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Kids-Crafts-Activities/Crafts/12-Buttons-2-1/12-Buttons-2-1/2%22-Design-a-Buttons/p/26331) please ping me. I will reimburse costs. I haven't found them anyplace up here. I know we used to be able to get them.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Freedomin5 on February 08, 2017, 12:24:32 AM
Also, if you have a hobby lobby nearby and the ability to mail me 6 packages of these, (http://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Kids-Crafts-Activities/Crafts/12-Buttons-2-1/12-Buttons-2-1/2%22-Design-a-Buttons/p/26331) please ping me. I will reimburse costs. I haven't found them anyplace up here. I know we used to be able to get them.

Would these work? https://www.amazon.ca/Darice-2406-38BV-12-Piece-Design-2-5-Inch/dp/B001685KSM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486538413&sr=8-1&keywords=Design-a-Buttons

They're sold on Amazon.ca. Price-wise, they look quite similar as well.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 08, 2017, 05:01:03 AM
Also, if you have a hobby lobby nearby and the ability to mail me 6 packages of these, (http://www.hobbylobby.com/Crafts-Hobbies/Kids-Crafts-Activities/Crafts/12-Buttons-2-1/12-Buttons-2-1/2%22-Design-a-Buttons/p/26331) please ping me. I will reimburse costs. I haven't found them anyplace up here. I know we used to be able to get them.

Would these work? https://www.amazon.ca/Darice-2406-38BV-12-Piece-Design-2-5-Inch/dp/B001685KSM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486538413&sr=8-1&keywords=Design-a-Buttons

They're sold on Amazon.ca. Price-wise, they look quite similar as well.

They will work, Thanks! 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 13, 2017, 09:48:38 AM
Hi Prospector, you might have already addressed this, but I couldn't find it and this thread is yuge. Do we need to bring bedding/sleeping bags, or is everything provided?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 13, 2017, 10:01:41 AM
Hi Prospector, you might have already addressed this, but I couldn't find it and this thread is yuge. Do we need to bring bedding/sleeping bags, or is everything provided?

You will need to bring the same basics as you would pack for your kid going to summer camp - bedding will be required. A packing list will be made available shortly.

Toilet paper will be supplied. I don't know if its Charmin' Ultra Soft 3-ply.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Sailor Sam on February 13, 2017, 10:17:18 AM
Based on the male:female ratio you've whined about, imma say that inferior toilet paper is going to be a huge issue for you. Personal, like.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 13, 2017, 10:41:36 AM
Hmmm ok. I am one of those deprived kids who never went to summer camp (or knew anyone that went), so this is a new one for me. I shall await your packing list.

Sam, tell me you're going. Please say you'll go.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 13, 2017, 10:45:25 AM
Hi Prospector, you might have already addressed this, but I couldn't find it and this thread is yuge. Do we need to bring bedding/sleeping bags, or is everything provided?

You will need to bring the same basics as you would pack for your kid going to summer camp - bedding will be required. A packing list will be made available shortly.

Toilet paper will be supplied. I don't know if its Charmin' Ultra Soft 3-ply.

Closer to the time, we could talk about whether some of the folks from close by (i.e. commuting by car) could bring some extra bedding along, so that those commuting by far (i.e. coming by plane, and hoping to just use a carry-on) don't have to bring theirs. 

You're on your own for the fancy-schmancy toilet paper though!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on February 13, 2017, 02:27:38 PM
When I was RVing from Seattle to Anchorage last year, they were going to charge me $100US for bedding and $60US for kitchen stuff to hire for 3.5 weeks. I brought my sleeping bag liner with me, and at the first stop, went to the local op shop, and got a doona, 3 towels, saucepan, huge microwave dish with lid, frying pan, sharp knife, crockery, cutlery... for $6CAD. Then went to the $2 shop to get other stuff. Ended up paying less than $10 for everything that was in the kits. And the op shop owner apologized for charging me so much! Took it all to the op shop in Anchorage at the end of the trip.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 13, 2017, 02:33:10 PM
If you are spendy, one of these (summer duty) will compress down to about the size of a bag of milk.

https://www.sail.ca/en/chinook-thermo-palm-167304

We have 2 of them.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 13, 2017, 03:54:46 PM
the size of a bag of milk.

Prospector, you son of a *.

:D
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 13, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
If you are spendy, one of these (summer duty) will compress down to about the size of a bag of milk.

https://www.sail.ca/en/chinook-thermo-palm-167304

We have 2 of them.

You mean Momma has two of them....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 13, 2017, 04:50:22 PM
the size of a bag of milk.

Prospector, you son of a *.

:D

To quote Bugs Bunny, "Ain't I a stinker!"
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 15, 2017, 09:54:56 PM
Hi Prospector, you might have already addressed this, but I couldn't find it and this thread is yuge. Do we need to bring bedding/sleeping bags, or is everything provided?

You will need to bring the same basics as you would pack for your kid going to summer camp - bedding will be required. A packing list will be made available shortly.

Toilet paper will be supplied. I don't know if its Charmin' Ultra Soft 3-ply.

Closer to the time, we could talk about whether some of the folks from close by (i.e. commuting by car) could bring some extra bedding along, so that those commuting by far (i.e. coming by plane, and hoping to just use a carry-on) don't have to bring theirs. 

You're on your own for the fancy-schmancy toilet paper though!

Great suggestion - I have a feeling pillows and sleeping bags are going to be HOT commodities!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 16, 2017, 02:36:41 PM
For those considering travel options or looking at seat sales.

Camp Mustache Canada is October 20th - 22.

Gates to Camp open at 10:00 AM on Friday the 20th.
Official opening activities are at 12:00 noon.

We wrap up late in the afternoon on Sunday, however it is possible to extend your stay to include Sunday night/Monday morning.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 16, 2017, 05:55:14 PM
Hi Prospector, you might have already addressed this, but I couldn't find it and this thread is yuge. Do we need to bring bedding/sleeping bags, or is everything provided?

You will need to bring the same basics as you would pack for your kid going to summer camp - bedding will be required. A packing list will be made available shortly.

Toilet paper will be supplied. I don't know if its Charmin' Ultra Soft 3-ply.

Closer to the time, we could talk about whether some of the folks from close by (i.e. commuting by car) could bring some extra bedding along, so that those commuting by far (i.e. coming by plane, and hoping to just use a carry-on) don't have to bring theirs. 

You're on your own for the fancy-schmancy toilet paper though!

Great suggestion - I have a feeling pillows and sleeping bags are going to be HOT commodities!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yup ... we got you covered, travellers! 

Get it?  Covered?  By the blankets and sleeping bags? 

I'm bad at this, aren't I?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ToTheMoon on February 16, 2017, 07:19:33 PM
Hi Prospector, you might have already addressed this, but I couldn't find it and this thread is yuge. Do we need to bring bedding/sleeping bags, or is everything provided?

You will need to bring the same basics as you would pack for your kid going to summer camp - bedding will be required. A packing list will be made available shortly.

Toilet paper will be supplied. I don't know if its Charmin' Ultra Soft 3-ply.

Closer to the time, we could talk about whether some of the folks from close by (i.e. commuting by car) could bring some extra bedding along, so that those commuting by far (i.e. coming by plane, and hoping to just use a carry-on) don't have to bring theirs. 

You're on your own for the fancy-schmancy toilet paper though!

Great suggestion - I have a feeling pillows and sleeping bags are going to be HOT commodities!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yup ... we got you covered, travellers! 

Get it?  Covered?  By the blankets and sleeping bags? 

I'm bad at this, aren't I?


Bah ha ha, I appreciate your sense of humour!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 16, 2017, 08:12:24 PM
Hi Prospector, you might have already addressed this, but I couldn't find it and this thread is yuge. Do we need to bring bedding/sleeping bags, or is everything provided?

You will need to bring the same basics as you would pack for your kid going to summer camp - bedding will be required. A packing list will be made available shortly.

Toilet paper will be supplied. I don't know if its Charmin' Ultra Soft 3-ply.

Closer to the time, we could talk about whether some of the folks from close by (i.e. commuting by car) could bring some extra bedding along, so that those commuting by far (i.e. coming by plane, and hoping to just use a carry-on) don't have to bring theirs. 

You're on your own for the fancy-schmancy toilet paper though!

Great suggestion - I have a feeling pillows and sleeping bags are going to be HOT commodities!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yup ... we got you covered, travellers! 

Get it?  Covered?  By the blankets and sleeping bags? 

I'm bad at this, aren't I?

No, not bad, I didn't give a sheet. Ali was worried about the bedding, I thought the pun was a good way to comforter.

Does this all count as pillow talk?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on February 16, 2017, 08:47:18 PM
I'm down with that.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 16, 2017, 09:08:08 PM
Hi Prospector, you might have already addressed this, but I couldn't find it and this thread is yuge. Do we need to bring bedding/sleeping bags, or is everything provided?

You will need to bring the same basics as you would pack for your kid going to summer camp - bedding will be required. A packing list will be made available shortly.

Toilet paper will be supplied. I don't know if its Charmin' Ultra Soft 3-ply.

Closer to the time, we could talk about whether some of the folks from close by (i.e. commuting by car) could bring some extra bedding along, so that those commuting by far (i.e. coming by plane, and hoping to just use a carry-on) don't have to bring theirs. 

You're on your own for the fancy-schmancy toilet paper though!

Great suggestion - I have a feeling pillows and sleeping bags are going to be HOT commodities!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yup ... we got you covered, travellers! 

Get it?  Covered?  By the blankets and sleeping bags? 

I'm bad at this, aren't I?

No, not bad, I didn't give a sheet. Ali was worried about the bedding, I thought the pun was a good way to comforter.

Does this all count as pillow talk?

Dang.  I'd try to figure out how to use comforter in the first place, but couldn't make it work.  I didn't have an "her" ('ter) to refer to. 

Well played. 

I will give you a few tick marks on the scoreboard - or should that be notches on the bedpost? 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 17, 2017, 04:48:44 AM
How many of you are playing with these Puns?  I count 4 Posters?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 17, 2017, 05:06:58 AM
How many of you are playing with these Puns?  I count 4 Posters?
Five, now.

I probably won't be able to sleep tonight, thinking of them, it'll just bed bug me too much.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 17, 2017, 05:14:50 AM
How many of you are playing with these Puns?  I count 4 Posters?
Five, now.

I probably won't be able to sleep tonight, thinking of them, it'll just bed bug me too much.

Awww sheet, I missed one.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 17, 2017, 05:46:04 AM
I'm looking at my spreadsheet, and right now it appears that I have received full payment from about 11 folks (thanks for the quick payment!!) Elaine has a bunch more that will come to me soon.

Deposits aplenty are received, in transit, or with Elaine. Thanks again!

There are still about 15 bunks available. That could go up to 20 if I release the spots I'm holding for my boys (so far the only kids apart from ARS's daughter) and count in the 2 open slots for a speaker and a morning exercise leader.

What I am saying is... if you are on the fence, about coming, there is a little time to decide. Our intent is to release any remaining spots to MMM's blog and twitter followers in early spring. Based on past experience, that release will fill quickly. Right now the timeline for when we do that is pretty up in the air - I will probably make an announcement a week before to give stragglers a chance to lock into spots before we do it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on February 17, 2017, 06:51:58 PM
I think you need to update the first item in this thread. It still says:

Quote
Rules:

    Each email addressis limited to 4 spots. No Rebs, you may not buy up the place and scalp tickets afterwards. I know it would help your retirement plans.
    The presale is only to hold a ticket for you. The presale price of $50 CAD  will be applied toward your full ticket price, which will be announced soon.
    A full of sale of remaining spots will follow – likely in the spring sometime. If you miss out on this sale, don’t despair, another 30 spots will be coming.
    This presale will end when 20 bunks have been reserved or on December 1st, whichever comes first.

And I'm sure the bulk of this is not correct.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 17, 2017, 06:53:06 PM
I think you need to update the first item in this thread. It still says:

Quote
Rules:

    Each email addressis limited to 4 spots. No Rebs, you may not buy up the place and scalp tickets afterwards. I know it would help your retirement plans.
    The presale is only to hold a ticket for you. The presale price of $50 CAD  will be applied toward your full ticket price, which will be announced soon.
    A full of sale of remaining spots will follow – likely in the spring sometime. If you miss out on this sale, don’t despair, another 30 spots will be coming.
    This presale will end when 20 bunks have been reserved or on December 1st, whichever comes first.

And I'm sure the bulk of this is not correct.

Thanks Deb... I thought I had already updated that.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 17, 2017, 09:37:11 PM
... which reminds me that I've been meaning to suggest you might want to change your signature line to say "tickets available now" or something like that.  If you want.  Up to you.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Lews Therin on February 19, 2017, 08:28:27 PM
Hey prospector: Your buttons are on sale at Amazon!

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B001685KSM/ref=pe_2331390_227474520_em_1p_0_ti
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 20, 2017, 07:14:37 PM
Hey prospector: Your buttons are on sale at Amazon!

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B001685KSM/ref=pe_2331390_227474520_em_1p_0_ti

Thanks Ben - the heads up is appreciated, but I'm thinking the bigger size might be better. I shall cast about searching.

I'm just back from Barnhouse - which is finally showing good progress. A nice little bonus when I was there - Mustache mail!!! Thanks to the forumite from the GOA (Greater Ottawa Area) who mailed in their cheque.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 23, 2017, 10:52:13 PM
Hey folks... time for a business update.

We are into the low teens as far as available bunks go. The first post says 17 right now. That does not include a few recent bookings. We could be sold out if 6 couples sign up.

The first post also asks for your balance to be paid by May 1.

We need at least 1 more speaker, and there may be room for more. Wanna lead a discussion on side Hustles?  Have experience travel hacking? Have family finances fine Tuned?  Come and Share! 

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Dee on February 24, 2017, 04:10:45 AM
Yay! Spots available! I was one of those on-the-fence people but now I wanna come! What do I do to get spots for me and my partner, Prospector?

(after a pillow fight, I persuaded him to come with me!)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 24, 2017, 05:20:34 AM
Yay! Spots available! I was one of those on-the-fence people but now I wanna come! What do I do to get spots for me and my partner, Prospector?

(after a pillow fight, I persuaded him to come with me!)

See the first post in this thread Dee.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 24, 2017, 09:58:04 AM
hmmm...just realized this is only an 8 hour drive for me....
I could take the following week driving around the northeast and make it a roadtrip...hmmmmm
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 24, 2017, 10:06:03 AM
hmmm...just realized this is only an 8 hour drive for me....
I could take the following week driving around the northeast and make it a roadtrip...hmmmmm

Dooooo ittttttt! Seriously!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 24, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
hmmm...just realized this is only an 8 hour drive for me....
I could take the following week driving around the northeast and make it a roadtrip...hmmmmm

Totally do-able!

Actually we'll be driving through Louisville (i think) on our way to Savannah in April! I know we go through Lexington. We are thinking of spending a night there.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 24, 2017, 10:13:28 AM
Louisville -> CMC -> New York City -> the mountains somewhere in VA/WV -> back to Louisville...would probably need at least 7 weekdays off work to pull it off....like the 19th-27th. This will be taken under serious consideration....

If you stop in Louisville then let me know...could always grab a drink or something...
The back roads of Lexington are great...it's horse country and the scenery is very pleasant.

edit: idiotic oversight :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 24, 2017, 10:54:09 AM
You left CMC out of that itinerary!!

Loads of folks travelling from the states to Maine/VT/NH come along the north shore of Lake Ontario. I've heard its faster, has fewer tolls, and in better shape than a lot of the US freeways. From my own experience, I don't think driving here is much different from in the US at all, so I doubt it really makes much of a difference.

If we spend a night in Louisville/Lexington, I'll let you know. It will really depend on how we feel when we get close. its 14 hrs from here to Atlanta, so just one shift each for Momma and I.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 24, 2017, 11:00:23 AM
hahaha...a bit of an oversight on my part!! fixed that

I'd be crossing over in Detroit...so only about 3 hours from there to CMC. I haven't given much thought to tolls...so apparently i'm not too concerned about it. I'll be doing some research. Currently looking at hotel prices in NY. Seeing if i can afford 4 days of driving during this trip. I will report back with my progress. 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 24, 2017, 11:11:33 AM
How important is NYC to your trip? We really liked the long weekend we spent in Letchworth Park. Its about 3 hours east from CMC.

But you have to like hiking and waterfalls and camping in a campground.

http://frosthaus.blogspot.ca/2014/05/a-weekend-at-letchworth-part-1-of-2.html
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 24, 2017, 11:18:06 AM
How important is NYC to your trip? We really liked the long weekend we spent in Letchworth Park. Its about 3 hours east from CMC.

But you have to like hiking and waterfalls and camping in a campground.

http://frosthaus.blogspot.ca/2014/05/a-weekend-at-letchworth-part-1-of-2.html
It is not important at all really. This is all on a whim right now so I was just kind of looking at a map and spit-balling ideas....and since NYC is only 7.5hrs away from CMC and i've never been, then i figured why not. I do like hiking and waterfalls very much....not sure i will have the ability to camp during this trip. I plan on driving and packing light. I should still have ample travel rewards points for hotels along the way, so that doesn't concern me all too much.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Reggievenne on February 24, 2017, 11:51:03 AM
Just finished reading all these threads and really interested in attending CMC with my wife. Awesome speaker line up! Thanks for organizing this. Can someone share the link to monstermonster's blog or podcast. They are the only one I'm not familiar with.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on February 24, 2017, 11:51:59 AM
Come to NYC! I'll be there and there's a big group of locals to meet.

Plus we can roadtrip there together and I can pay you instead of an airline.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 24, 2017, 11:54:38 AM
MonsterMonster's stuff is all over here: https://www.ohmydollar.com/blog/

You can follow links in the header to see more. Her blog doesn't go deep, but she tours campuses in the USA teaching personal finance and is active on these forums. She has about 10 podcasts out that give a great feel for her presentation style.

Really a fantastic, energetic, and dedicated person.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Reggievenne on February 24, 2017, 11:59:06 AM
MonsterMonster's stuff is all over here: https://www.ohmydollar.com/blog/

You can follow links in the header to see more. Her blog doesn't go deep, but she tours campuses in the USA teaching personal finance and is active on these forums. She has about 10 podcasts out that give a great feel for her presentation style.

Really a fantastic, energetic, and dedicated person.

Awesome! Thanks
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 24, 2017, 12:32:39 PM
Come to NYC! I'll be there and there's a big group of locals to meet.

Plus we can roadtrip there together and I can pay you instead of an airline.
7.5hrs in a car with MJ....what is on your playlist?? Will you make fun of my slight country twang? Are you willing to leave a little early on the 22nd (depends on when CMC actually ends i suppose) so we don't get into NYC in the wee hours of the morning?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cassie on February 24, 2017, 12:41:25 PM
They call Letchworth Park the Grand Canyon of the East. I have been there numerous times when I had a good friend live there. They used to have a fancy restaurant with excellent food that you could eat at in your hiking clothes. It has been almost 20 years since I have been there so not sure if it is still there. Truly a beautiful place.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on February 24, 2017, 12:42:45 PM
7.5 hours. The same distance from Canberra to Melbourne! Everything is so close in that part of the country!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on February 24, 2017, 01:19:20 PM
Come to NYC! I'll be there and there's a big group of locals to meet.

Plus we can roadtrip there together and I can pay you instead of an airline.
7.5hrs in a car with MJ....what is on your playlist?? Will you make fun of my slight country twang? Are you willing to leave a little early on the 22nd (depends on when CMC actually ends i suppose) so we don't get into NYC in the wee hours of the morning?

Meepsy has been introducing me to both country music and waking up early so we should be fine.

Wait, I lied. I can't leave early on the 22nd.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 24, 2017, 01:21:40 PM
Come to NYC! I'll be there and there's a big group of locals to meet.

Plus we can roadtrip there together and I can pay you instead of an airline.
7.5hrs in a car with MJ....what is on your playlist?? Will you make fun of my slight country twang? Are you willing to leave a little early on the 22nd (depends on when CMC actually ends i suppose) so we don't get into NYC in the wee hours of the morning?

Meepsy has been introducing me to both country music and waking up early so we should be fine.

Wait, I lied. I can't leave early on the 22nd.
Good deal. I will keep you abreast of my plans.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Dee on February 24, 2017, 04:45:01 PM
Yay! Spots available! I was one of those on-the-fence people but now I wanna come! What do I do to get spots for me and my partner, Prospector?

(after a pillow fight, I persuaded him to come with me!)

See the first post in this thread Dee.

So simple. Thanks, Prospector.

You know, what actually persuaded my spouse to come along is the fact that you are named after a canoe. He figures this get-together can't be too bad if it's being run by a canoe-loving leader.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 24, 2017, 04:48:24 PM
Yay! Spots available! I was one of those on-the-fence people but now I wanna come! What do I do to get spots for me and my partner, Prospector?

(after a pillow fight, I persuaded him to come with me!)

See the first post in this thread Dee.

So simple. Thanks, Prospector.

You know, what actually persuaded my spouse to come along is the fact that you are named after a canoe. He figures this get-together can't be too bad if it's being run by a canoe-loving leader.

Hah, awesome.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 24, 2017, 05:27:43 PM
I will be (mostly) afk until late Sunday night. I will be pleased as punch if you he camp is sold out when I get back.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 26, 2017, 05:40:40 PM
6 more seats sold over the weekend!

Getting awful close to selling out!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on February 26, 2017, 05:45:21 PM
6 more seats sold over the weekend!

Is this "The Seattle Effect"?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 26, 2017, 05:53:18 PM
6 more seats sold over the weekend!

Is this "The Seattle Effect"?

It may be Okits. I also think folks are becoming aware of th eurgency to snag a seat before we sell out.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: avrex on February 26, 2017, 11:00:11 PM
6 more seats sold over the weekend!

Getting awful close to selling out!!

Only 8 bunks left.
This is great!!!


I'm confident there will be no need to do anything rash :) like this ...

Our intent is to release any remaining spots to MMM's blog and twitter followers in early spring.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 27, 2017, 05:47:56 AM
Come to NYC! I'll be there and there's a big group of locals to meet.

Plus we can roadtrip there together and I can pay you instead of an airline.
7.5hrs in a car with MJ....what is on your playlist?? Will you make fun of my slight country twang? Are you willing to leave a little early on the 22nd (depends on when CMC actually ends i suppose) so we don't get into NYC in the wee hours of the morning?

Meepsy has been introducing me to both country music and waking up early so we should be fine.

Wait, I lied. I can't leave early on the 22nd.
by early, i meant by like noon-ish...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 27, 2017, 10:10:25 AM
so how do these things work? will i be scorned if i don't attend all 4 breakout sessions...i mean what if i feel like napping instead?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 10:20:52 AM
so how do these things work? will i be scorned if i don't attend all 4 breakout sessions...i mean what if i feel like napping instead?

I vote that you nap! Or have coffe or other fine beverage with me, or take a walk. Do what you need.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 27, 2017, 10:23:46 AM
so how do these things work? will i be scorned if i don't attend all 4 breakout sessions...i mean what if i feel like napping instead?

I vote that you nap! Or have coffe or other fine beverage with me, or take a walk. Do what you need.
sold. i enjoy both coffee and other beverages as well. i think i just talked my sis into meeting me in new york after i leave there...it helps that i offered to pay for our room with my points.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 27, 2017, 10:54:39 AM
Hey Prospector, you might have posted this somewhere else already, but is there a price to be able to stay over on Sunday night? I remember you saying we could stay, but there wouldn't be breakfast. I just want to confirm there is a bed before I book the flight.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 27, 2017, 11:02:59 AM
Yes - I will be sending out a form for the extra night (among other things) after the May 1 payments arrive. Anticipate a $35 pillow fee for that night.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 27, 2017, 12:34:15 PM

sold. i enjoy both coffee and other beverages as well. i think i just talked my sis into meeting me in new york after i leave there...it helps that i offered to pay for our room with my points.

NYC is awesome if you have hotel points. I stayed there last November with my IHG points. Well worth the redemption.

Sounds like you have a great roadtrip in mind! I was down in Lexington and Louisville a couple of years ago on a girls getaway and we had a great time. Loved watching the horses train at Keeneland (especially since it was free) and we also did a distillery tour as we drove from Lexington to Louisville. The country roads were beautiful. My girlfriend kept grumbling that we didn't bring our road bikes - although I have to say, I'm kinda glad we didn't since those pretty rolling hills and rather narrow country roads did not seem like a good combination.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 27, 2017, 12:54:32 PM

sold. i enjoy both coffee and other beverages as well. i think i just talked my sis into meeting me in new york after i leave there...it helps that i offered to pay for our room with my points.

NYC is awesome if you have hotel points. I stayed there last November with my IHG points. Well worth the redemption.

Sounds like you have a great roadtrip in mind! I was down in Lexington and Louisville a couple of years ago on a girls getaway and we had a great time. Loved watching the horses train at Keeneland (especially since it was free) and we also did a distillery tour as we drove from Lexington to Louisville. The country roads were beautiful. My girlfriend kept grumbling that we didn't bring our road bikes - although I have to say, I'm kinda glad we didn't since those pretty rolling hills and rather narrow country roads did not seem like a good combination.
I'll probably be using my chase UR points, but yea...looking forward to it. Keeneland and Lexington are quite pleasant. I lived in Lexington for about a year and half and really enjoyed it for the most part. Those rolling hills can indeed get a little sketchy.

So...i just sent my email off to Prosp...guess i'm committed now.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 02:29:48 PM

sold. i enjoy both coffee and other beverages as well. i think i just talked my sis into meeting me in new york after i leave there...it helps that i offered to pay for our room with my points.

NYC is awesome if you have hotel points. I stayed there last November with my IHG points. Well worth the redemption.

Sounds like you have a great roadtrip in mind! I was down in Lexington and Louisville a couple of years ago on a girls getaway and we had a great time. Loved watching the horses train at Keeneland (especially since it was free) and we also did a distillery tour as we drove from Lexington to Louisville. The country roads were beautiful. My girlfriend kept grumbling that we didn't bring our road bikes - although I have to say, I'm kinda glad we didn't since those pretty rolling hills and rather narrow country roads did not seem like a good combination.
I'll probably be using my chase UR points, but yea...looking forward to it. Keeneland and Lexington are quite pleasant. I lived in Lexington for about a year and half and really enjoyed it for the most part. Those rolling hills can indeed get a little sketchy.

So...i just sent my email off to Prosp...guess i'm committed now.

YAY! Glad you've decided to come!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 27, 2017, 03:27:56 PM
Down to 6 spots remaining...

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalShrew on February 27, 2017, 03:38:19 PM
It might be logistically tough with work, but I couldn't resist anymore . . . I just emailed in my request for a spot at CMC 2017!!

Can't wait to see you all there!!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on February 27, 2017, 05:14:47 PM
....
God damn. I'm so on the fence about this. ;___; I want to. But also, like FrugalShrew said... LOGISTICS.
UG.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 05:15:55 PM
It might be logistically tough with work, but I couldn't resist anymore . . . I just emailed in my request for a spot at CMC 2017!!

Can't wait to see you all there!!!

And then there were 5...

You came to North beach in Chicago last October - yes?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalShrew on February 27, 2017, 05:18:14 PM
It might be logistically tough with work, but I couldn't resist anymore . . . I just emailed in my request for a spot at CMC 2017!!

Can't wait to see you all there!!!

And then there were 5...

You came to North beach in Chicago last October - yes?

Hi G-dog! Yep, that was me!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 27, 2017, 05:24:10 PM
....
God damn. I'm so on the fence about this. ;___; I want to. But also, like FrugalShrew said... LOGISTICS.
UG.
A bit out of my way, or I'd pick you up, but I'm going to NYC after...so that also helps none. Do it anyways...find a way!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 05:25:55 PM
....
God damn. I'm so on the fence about this. ;___; I want to. But also, like FrugalShrew said... LOGISTICS.
UG.

I am driving and picking up TheGoblinChief. Are you on that drive path?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on February 27, 2017, 05:27:52 PM
....
God damn. I'm so on the fence about this. ;___; I want to. But also, like FrugalShrew said... LOGISTICS.
UG.

I am driving and picking up TheGoblinChief. Are you on that drive path?
Where is TheGoblinChief? I'm in Wisconsin (Madison).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 05:30:06 PM
....
God damn. I'm so on the fence about this. ;___; I want to. But also, like FrugalShrew said... LOGISTICS.
UG.

I am driving and picking up TheGoblinChief. Are you on that drive path?
Where is TheGoblinChief? I'm in Wisconsin (Madison).

Milwaukee. I am coming from Des Moines. Not sure yet whether I go all the way up to Milwaukee, or he drives down a bit to a meeting spot.

Then we take Elaine up to camp after staying overnight at her place. So, we get across the border, and have a short drive the next morning.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on February 27, 2017, 05:31:56 PM
....
God damn. I'm so on the fence about this. ;___; I want to. But also, like FrugalShrew said... LOGISTICS.
UG.

I am driving and picking up TheGoblinChief. Are you on that drive path?
Where is TheGoblinChief? I'm in Wisconsin (Madison).

Milwaukee. I am coming from Des Moines. Not sure yet whether I go all the way up to Milwaukee, or he drives down a bit to a meeting spot.

Then we take Elaine up to camp after staying overnight at her place. So, we get across the border, and have a short drive the next morning.
Damn. That could totally work.
o___o
Would you be down for adding one to your carpool? I want to think on it for a night (hoping my options aren't taken away from me by doing so) before committing. But... damn. This could actually work...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 05:38:32 PM
Yes - let's cross the streams!

I have a RAV4. It has a roof rack that has been used ONCE to move a twin bed.

If needed, I could check on renting a topper. It seats 4 easily, reasonable room in back for luggage, but it depends on what everyone has. It's not a long trip - so not much is needed.

Think about it.

From my end - I could drive to Madison, then we do the next leg. I know a couple of people there and may be able to stay with one of them. If they are amenable, I could even go a day or two earlier and do a proper visit! Madison is supposed to be quite wonderful - I need to be careful and not wear any Iowa Hawkeyes gear (I don't think I have any actually). ;)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on February 27, 2017, 05:41:16 PM
FTTTTT....
Damn this is sounding grand.
I'll let you know by tomorrow. :3 Even if it doesn't work out (for whatever reason) definitely ping me if you end up in Madison!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 05:42:10 PM
FTTTTT....
Damn this is sounding grand.
I'll let you know by tomorrow. :3 Even if it doesn't work out (for whatever reason) definitely ping me if you end up in Madison!!

Do it! Sign up! You can be ---- one of us!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on February 27, 2017, 05:43:42 PM
One last question (just so I can figure out how many vacation days this would take)
Do you know the vague travel itinerary for days on the road?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalShrew on February 27, 2017, 05:44:17 PM
Hi Oro!!! Throwing caution to the wind & signing up feels great, I have to say :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on February 27, 2017, 05:45:09 PM
Hi Oro!!! Throwing caution to the wind & signing up feels great, I have to say :)
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh sakdjf;sd;fksd
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 27, 2017, 05:45:39 PM
For gear - everyone should be able to pack in a carryon plus a sleeping bag/pillow. Of course, our family packs a week's worth of gear for a family of four plus paddles and a canoe into a Chev Sonic...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalShrew on February 27, 2017, 05:49:17 PM
Madison is supposed to be quite wonderful - I need to be careful and not wear any Iowa Hawkeyes gear (I don't think I have any actually). ;)

Don't worry, G-dog. Badger fans are pretty good-spirited about their rivalries, at least in my experience (which does not include actually attending games, but does include walking around town wearing rival sportswear).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalShrew on February 27, 2017, 05:50:18 PM
Hi Oro!!! Throwing caution to the wind & signing up feels great, I have to say :)
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh sakdjf;sd;fksd

(But please ignore our friendly peer pressure if this is actually not the right decision for you).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 05:57:33 PM
One last question (just so I can figure out how many vacation days this would take)
Do you know the vague travel itinerary for days on the road?


Tentative plan:
Thursday, October 19 - drive US into Canada
Friday, October 20 - drive to camp, check-in, day 1 activities
Saturday, October 21 - day 2 activities
Sunday, October 22 - day 3 activities, camp ends (tentative plan to stay overnight BUT need to talk with Elaine, staying with Elaine may be an option)
Monday, October 23 - drive home

Drive days = Thursday, Friday, and Monday in this tentative plan.

I would have to check the driving time again, and talk with Elaine - but depending on timing, you might be able to work a partial day on Thursday if vacation days are limiting.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on February 27, 2017, 06:00:13 PM
Thanks, G-Dog!
<3
I will sleep on it and let you know (provided there are beds left).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
Madison is supposed to be quite wonderful - I need to be careful and not wear any Iowa Hawkeyes gear (I don't think I have any actually). ;)

Don't worry, G-dog. Badger fans are pretty good-spirited about their rivalries, at least in my experience (which does not include actually attending games, but does include walking around town wearing rival sportswear).

I think there is a particularly nasty rivalry between UI and UW in general - and in football and maybe basketball in particular. Of course, I'm not really confused with the student demographic anymore...

Maybe this has dulled overtime... I haven't attended games either - that spending is NOT aligned with my values....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 06:03:51 PM
Hi Oro!!! Throwing caution to the wind & signing up feels great, I have to say :)
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh sakdjf;sd;fksd

(But please ignore our friendly peer pressure if this is actually not the right decision for you).

Well, yeah, that too. But it would be very cool if you can go! 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalShrew on February 27, 2017, 06:04:11 PM
Madison is supposed to be quite wonderful - I need to be careful and not wear any Iowa Hawkeyes gear (I don't think I have any actually). ;)

Don't worry, G-dog. Badger fans are pretty good-spirited about their rivalries, at least in my experience (which does not include actually attending games, but does include walking around town wearing rival sportswear).

I think there is a particularly nasty rivalry between UI and UW in general - and in football and maybe basketball in particular. Of course, I'm not really confused with the student demographic anymore...

Maybe this has dulled overtime... I haven't attended games either - that spending is NOT aligned with my values....

Well, perhaps best to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 06:07:01 PM
Madison is supposed to be quite wonderful - I need to be careful and not wear any Iowa Hawkeyes gear (I don't think I have any actually). ;)

Don't worry, G-dog. Badger fans are pretty good-spirited about their rivalries, at least in my experience (which does not include actually attending games, but does include walking around town wearing rival sportswear).

I think there is a particularly nasty rivalry between UI and UW in general - and in football and maybe basketball in particular. Of course, I'm not really confused with the student demographic anymore...

Maybe this has dulled overtime... I haven't attended games either - that spending is NOT aligned with my values....

Well, perhaps best to be on the safe side.

Only a possible problem if the game is that weekend. Who knows, maybe I really need a badger's shirt!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RamonaQ on February 27, 2017, 06:28:20 PM
Argh!  I'm taking a week's vacation in September and I have no idea if I'll even be in the same job in the fall, but I want to go!!!

I think I'm kind of fishing for some peer pressure/justifications here.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 06:29:30 PM
Argh!  I'm taking a week's vacation in September and I have no idea if I'll even be in the same job in the fall, but I want to go!!!

I think I'm kind of fishing for some peer pressure/justifications here.

All the more reason to create more structure in the Fall and register now....

Did that work?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalShrew on February 27, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
Argh!  I'm taking a week's vacation in September and I have no idea if I'll even be in the same job in the fall, but I want to go!!!

I think I'm kind of fishing for some peer pressure/justifications here.

RamonaQ, only 5 spaces left in the presale!!! Take the leap!! (how is that for peer pressure?)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FrugalShrew on February 27, 2017, 06:45:43 PM
Madison is supposed to be quite wonderful - I need to be careful and not wear any Iowa Hawkeyes gear (I don't think I have any actually). ;)

Don't worry, G-dog. Badger fans are pretty good-spirited about their rivalries, at least in my experience (which does not include actually attending games, but does include walking around town wearing rival sportswear).

I think there is a particularly nasty rivalry between UI and UW in general - and in football and maybe basketball in particular. Of course, I'm not really confused with the student demographic anymore...

Maybe this has dulled overtime... I haven't attended games either - that spending is NOT aligned with my values....

Well, perhaps best to be on the safe side.

Only a possible problem if the game is that weekend. Who knows, maybe I really need a badger's shirt!

If you want to blend in, I think any red shirt should be sufficient. Although try to avoid shopping at Target, or people will seek your assistance.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 27, 2017, 06:51:55 PM
Madison is supposed to be quite wonderful - I need to be careful and not wear any Iowa Hawkeyes gear (I don't think I have any actually). ;)

Don't worry, G-dog. Badger fans are pretty good-spirited about their rivalries, at least in my experience (which does not include actually attending games, but does include walking around town wearing rival sportswear).

I think there is a particularly nasty rivalry between UI and UW in general - and in football and maybe basketball in particular. Of course, I'm not really confused with the student demographic anymore...

Maybe this has dulled overtime... I haven't attended games either - that spending is NOT aligned with my values....

Well, perhaps best to be on the safe side.

Only a possible problem if the game is that weekend. Who knows, maybe I really need a badger's shirt!

If you want to blend in, I think any red shirt should be sufficient. Although try to avoid shopping at Target, or people will seek your assistance.

Especially with the khaki pants too!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 27, 2017, 06:57:53 PM
Argh!  I'm taking a week's vacation in September and I have no idea if I'll even be in the same job in the fall, but I want to go!!!

I think I'm kind of fishing for some peer pressure/justifications here.

Especially worth it from Detroit... its only a few hours.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 27, 2017, 07:35:49 PM
2 more bunks claimed - but one is one of my speaking slots, so 4 bunks remain...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 27, 2017, 08:37:05 PM
RamonaQ, in terms of vacation and job changing, on a couple of occasions I've had a vacation of some kind planned already, and been in the process of job hunting.  I've never had a problem with saying to an employer (after I've accepted the offer!), "By the way, I already had this long weekend/week off booked, hope that's not a problem."

Also, a reminder to anyone travelling where there's a luggage/space issue, I was totally serious when I said that we should try to organize a few of us who live close to bring extra sleeping bags/pillows/sheets and blankets.  We'll have to coordinate it ahead of time, of course, to make sure that no one goes without, but I should be able to equip a couple of people myself, and I'm sure that some other folks will be willing to help too.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 05:34:12 AM
Minor clock reset... Dan and one of our other presenters are just coming as day-guests... I had them in the spreadsheet count. This opens up 2 bunks. Also, in the leadership section, we still need a fitness leader for Sunday morning (if you want a 25% discount on your stay, sign up for fitness leader and take everyone on a run or lead them in pushups, or something!).

This means we have 7 bunks available right now, and one of them is a cheapy!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 28, 2017, 06:01:17 AM
I'm curious...will you be posting an attendee list here?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 06:05:43 AM
I'm curious...will you be posting an attendee list here?

No Andy I won't. That wouldn't be fair to folks who are concerned with privacy or with broadcasting empty houses online. I leave it to the attendees to decide whether they want to announce their attendance. I do post updates to teh speaker schedule on the first of the month most months though. That's tomorrow.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on February 28, 2017, 06:09:29 AM
I'm curious...will you be posting an attendee list here?

No Andy I won't. That wouldn't be fair to folks who are concerned with privacy or with broadcasting empty houses online. I leave it to the attendees to decide whether they want to announce their attendance. I do post updates to teh speaker schedule on the first of the month most months though. That's tomorrow.
that is kind of what i assumed...makes perfect sense. thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 06:10:39 AM
Update to OP - Last speaker's topic filled in, Count reset. Still looking for fitness leader on day 2... When everyone is too hung over/tired to do fitness anyway.

If all 7 remaining spots go to dudes, we'll have a perfect 1:1 male to female ratio. I doubt this will happen.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on February 28, 2017, 06:27:28 AM
Why don't we just do a hike or a walk Day 2?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 06:28:47 AM
Why don't we just do a hike or a walk Day 2?

You volunteering to lead?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on February 28, 2017, 06:36:41 AM
Sure. If somebody wakes me up and shoves a map in my hand.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 06:41:53 AM
Sure. If somebody wakes me up and shoves a map in my hand.

There is a rail trail literally next door to camp. You could go for miles and miles and miles and miles in a straight line.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on February 28, 2017, 07:27:16 AM
Cool. Okay, we will meet at a mutually-agreed-upon hour and divide into two groups: 1) hikers and 2) strollers. The hikers, led by someone like 94, will head out. The strollers, led by me, will drift off after them. The hikers will decide when to turn around, and will gather us up upon their return. Sound like a plan?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on February 28, 2017, 07:38:24 AM
Also, a reminder to anyone travelling where there's a luggage/space issue, I was totally serious when I said that we should try to organize a few of us who live close to bring extra sleeping bags/pillows/sheets and blankets.  We'll have to coordinate it ahead of time, of course, to make sure that no one goes without, but I should be able to equip a couple of people myself, and I'm sure that some other folks will be willing to help too.

Hi PJ! I would be honored to be equipped by you. I don't own a sleeping bag, and I barely own a pillow.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on February 28, 2017, 07:40:45 AM
I think a pillow talk sub topic is the perfect way to ensure everyone has enough supplies
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 28, 2017, 08:54:21 AM
Also, a reminder to anyone travelling where there's a luggage/space issue, I was totally serious when I said that we should try to organize a few of us who live close to bring extra sleeping bags/pillows/sheets and blankets.  We'll have to coordinate it ahead of time, of course, to make sure that no one goes without, but I should be able to equip a couple of people myself, and I'm sure that some other folks will be willing to help too.

Hi PJ! I would be honored to be equipped by you. I don't own a sleeping bag, and I barely own a pillow.

No problem, MJ!  I got you covered!

(Yes, I'm starting the bedding puns again!)

I agree EF, closer to the time, we can start an equipment subtopic.  But for now, we'll just remember that I've already committed to MJ :-)

Edited to add:  It's not a worry, really, to advertise that my house will be empty.  Because it won't be.  There are the downstairs tenants, who are pretty aware of my comings and goings.  My brother will be staying here (my "little" but very big brother!)  And I've posted in many places around the forum about my evil dog - who is actually very sweet to people she knows and trusts, but highly territorial and protective when strangers are near.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 09:34:21 AM
As I've said before, I'm well equipped and willing to help others in that department.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on February 28, 2017, 09:36:39 AM
Oh yay, thanks PJ!

As I've said before, I'm well equipped and willing to help others in that department.

Ahem. #context
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 10:44:50 AM
Oh yay, thanks PJ!

As I've said before, I'm well equipped and willing to help others in that department.

Ahem. #context

But I am willing to share my sleeping bag(s) as needed.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Lews Therin on February 28, 2017, 11:04:29 AM
Oh yay, thanks PJ!

As I've said before, I'm well equipped and willing to help others in that department.

Ahem. #context

But I am willing to share my sleeping bag(s) as needed.

Even with context, there is clearly a word that makes sure that you have to look again at the previous comment. Also, is not Day 2 Yoga?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 28, 2017, 01:45:22 PM
Tentative plan:
Thursday, October 19 - drive US into Canada
Friday, October 20 - drive to camp, check-in, day 1 activities
Saturday, October 21 - day 2 activities
Sunday, October 22 - day 3 activities, camp ends (tentative plan to stay overnight BUT need to talk with Elaine, staying with Elaine may be an option)
Monday, October 23 - drive home

Drive days = Thursday, Friday, and Monday in this tentative plan.

I would have to check the driving time again, and talk with Elaine - but depending on timing, you might be able to work a partial day on Thursday if vacation days are limiting.

Orvell - you are totally welcome to another spot on my family room floor! I do have twin foam mattresses available (IMO 2 - 2.5 inches of foam are way more comfortable than an air mattress!) as well as an air mattress. Plus you're all welcome to stay with me on Sunday night as well to break up the journey home. You should be aware that I do have a small poodle who likes to act tough by barking loudly at anyone who enters the house for a grand total of 5 seconds - after which he will likely ignore you completely and retreat to his throne on my bed.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on February 28, 2017, 01:50:17 PM
Cool. Okay, we will meet at a mutually-agreed-upon hour and divide into two groups: 1) hikers and 2) strollers. The hikers, led by someone like 94, will head out. The strollers, led by me, will drift off after them. The hikers will decide when to turn around, and will gather us up upon their return. Sound like a plan?

Oooo...hiking? I'm in!! I'll be happy to lead a group out or follow along. Approximately how long will we have for this Prospector?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on February 28, 2017, 01:54:23 PM
Cool. Okay, we will meet at a mutually-agreed-upon hour and divide into two groups: 1) hikers and 2) strollers. The hikers, led by someone like 94, will head out. The strollers, led by me, will drift off after them. The hikers will decide when to turn around, and will gather us up upon their return. Sound like a plan?

Oooo...hiking? I'm in!! I'll be happy to lead a group out or follow along. Approximately how long will we have for this Prospector?

You are hereby appointed captain of the hikers, Elaine!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 02:20:23 PM
Cool. Okay, we will meet at a mutually-agreed-upon hour and divide into two groups: 1) hikers and 2) strollers. The hikers, led by someone like 94, will head out. The strollers, led by me, will drift off after them. The hikers will decide when to turn around, and will gather us up upon their return. Sound like a plan?

Oooo...hiking? I'm in!! I'll be happy to lead a group out or follow along. Approximately how long will we have for this Prospector?

You are hereby appointed captain of the hikers, Elaine!

The schedule currently shows:

8:00 AM Saturday - Yoga with ElleFiji
9:30 AM Saturday - Breakfast

8:00 AM Sunday Exercise TBD
9:00 AM Sunday - Breakfast

----------------------------------------------------------

If teh hikers and yoga-ers wanna swap days, that's cool with me.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on February 28, 2017, 02:53:13 PM
Sunday exercise is decided, Prosps. We are going to meet at 8am. Elaine will lead the hikers out, accompanied no doubt by 94, and I will head up the walkers, following at an ever-increasing distance.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on February 28, 2017, 03:04:28 PM
I (or anyone else, if they'd like) can lead a meditation session either/both of the days too, if anyone is interested.  Just a 10-15 minute early morning thing.

Also crossing my fingers on Oro and Ramona.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on February 28, 2017, 03:05:36 PM
I (or anyone else, if they'd like) can lead a meditation session either/both of the days too, if anyone is interested.  Just a 10-15 minute early morning thing.

Also crossing my fingers on Oro and Ramona.  :)

I wondered about meditation too. And caffination...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RamonaQ on February 28, 2017, 03:30:08 PM
I appreciate the peer pressure!

I have the feeling that if I DON'T go, I'll be sitting here in October all annoyed that I didn't book a ticket.  I'll talk to Howie tonight and make sure there's no plans that I'm not aware of for that weekend.  And also explain that I want to run off to hang out with imaginary internet people.

RamonaQ, in terms of vacation and job changing, on a couple of occasions I've had a vacation of some kind planned already, and been in the process of job hunting.  I've never had a problem with saying to an employer (after I've accepted the offer!), "By the way, I already had this long weekend/week off booked, hope that's not a problem."

Yeah, I've totally done that too, but I've already got two other trips booked (one 5 days, one 10).  So adding a third would be a lot.  But CMC is quite close geographically, so really it would only require one day off.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RamonaQ on February 28, 2017, 03:30:47 PM
Oh, and if I do go, I'd be happy to lead a Sunday morning run to compliment the hikers and walkers.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on February 28, 2017, 04:22:23 PM
At this rate EVERYONE will be leading some part of the Sunday morning thing - runners, hikers, walkers... Maybe I will lead the amblers. How many of us are there?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 28, 2017, 04:36:03 PM
At this rate EVERYONE will be leading some part of the Sunday morning thing - runners, hikers, walkers... Maybe I will lead the amblers. How many of us are there?
I will follow you.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 04:41:42 PM
I'll lead the crawlers... who is leading the rollers and wrigglers?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 04:45:22 PM
I (or anyone else, if they'd like) can lead a meditation session either/both of the days too, if anyone is interested.  Just a 10-15 minute early morning thing.

Also crossing my fingers on Oro and Ramona.  :)

If you come by Auberge Prospector beforehand, you can lead me in a meditation. I would have no idea what to do elsewise.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on February 28, 2017, 05:09:17 PM
Oh, and if I do go, I'd be happy to lead a Sunday morning run to compliment the hikers and walkers.

Awesome. We will meet up and divide ourselves by preference. Perhaps add a conga line?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 06:04:04 PM
I can see Dan Bortolotti arrive just as the conga line returns from its 'hike'.

Lord have mercy.




6 spots remaining.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on February 28, 2017, 06:05:28 PM
I can see Dan Bortolotti arrive just as the conga line returns from its 'hike'.

Lord have mercy.




6 spots remaining.
He's your close personal friend, Dan won't judge you
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on February 28, 2017, 06:06:53 PM
Isn't that part of what close personal friends do best?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Lews Therin on February 28, 2017, 09:24:37 PM
Conga line hike sounds perfect.

Kicking those legs left and right should be a good workout.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 28, 2017, 09:32:33 PM
I'm still not sure if I will be able to hang out for Sunday morning, or will have to get up super duper early and head off to work.  Won't know until closer to the time.  But if I'm around, I'd like to volunteer to lead the coffee drinking sitting team, as we hang around and wait for the rest of you to come back from your run / hike / walk / amble / conga / crawl / roll / wiggle.

(I cannot believe that in such a non-conformist group as Mustachians, that I would be the first to acknowledge that no one HAS to participate in forced exercise early on Sunday morning!)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on February 28, 2017, 09:44:32 PM
I'm still not sure if I will be able to hang out for Sunday morning, or will have to get up super duper early and head off to work.  Won't know until closer to the time.  But if I'm around, I'd like to volunteer to lead the coffee drinking sitting team, as we hang around and wait for the rest of you to come back from your run / hike / walk / amble / conga / crawl / roll / wiggle.

(I cannot believe that in such a non-conformist group as Mustachians, that I would be the first to acknowledge that no one HAS to participate in forced exercise early on Sunday morning!)

Don't worry, you're not!  Prospector told Sailor Sam that participation in everything at CMC is voluntary (even early-morning drills from our favourite promoter of type-2 fun).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on February 28, 2017, 09:52:45 PM
I'm still not sure if I will be able to hang out for Sunday morning, or will have to get up super duper early and head off to work.  Won't know until closer to the time.  But if I'm around, I'd like to volunteer to lead the coffee drinking sitting team, as we hang around and wait for the rest of you to come back from your run / hike / walk / amble / conga / crawl / roll / wiggle.

(I cannot believe that in such a non-conformist group as Mustachians, that I would be the first to acknowledge that no one HAS to participate in forced exercise early on Sunday morning!)

Don't worry, you're not!  Prospector told Sailor Sam that participation in everything at CMC is voluntary (even early-morning drills from our favourite promoter of type-2 fun).

ESPECIALLY  early morning drills from our favorite promoter of type 2 fun.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on February 28, 2017, 09:58:44 PM
Did somebody say conga line? If I do go, I can lead that. It's in my blood.

I guess I am waiting for my FIRE fate to be decided on in the next couple of months bfore I make my CMC attendance decision.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on February 28, 2017, 10:23:39 PM
Did somebody say conga line? If I do go, I can lead that. It's in my blood.

I guess I am waiting for my FIRE fate to be decided on in the next couple of months bfore I make my CMC attendance decision.
Haven't you read that there are now ONLY SIX BUNKS LEFT - leave it for a week, and you won't be able to get a ticket!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on February 28, 2017, 10:37:34 PM
Did somebody say conga line? If I do go, I can lead that. It's in my blood.

I guess I am waiting for my FIRE fate to be decided on in the next couple of months bfore I make my CMC attendance decision.
Haven't you read that there are now ONLY SIX BUNKS LEFT - leave it for a week, and you won't be able to get a ticket!

Yes, I've been biting my nails under the stress of that knowledge. I must say this sudden mention of a conga line feels like a sign from the universe that I should attend.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 28, 2017, 10:50:26 PM
I'm still not sure if I will be able to hang out for Sunday morning, or will have to get up super duper early and head off to work.  Won't know until closer to the time.  But if I'm around, I'd like to volunteer to lead the coffee drinking sitting team, as we hang around and wait for the rest of you to come back from your run / hike / walk / amble / conga / crawl / roll / wiggle.

(I cannot believe that in such a non-conformist group as Mustachians, that I would be the first to acknowledge that no one HAS to participate in forced exercise early on Sunday morning!)

Don't worry, you're not!  Prospector told Sailor Sam that participation in everything at CMC is voluntary (even early-morning drills from our favourite promoter of type-2 fun).

Oh, I know, but that was pages ago.  Or at least, a page ago?  I didn't check.  My point was more general. 

Because suddenly everyone was talking about meeting up all together and breaking into various groups right down to wigglers and rollers (well, that was just Prosp) as if it was just assumed that we would all go out and move our bodies at some speed or another first thing in the morning when we (well, me anyway) would be not really awake yet, and no one was saying anything anymore about just.not.going!

So, it was left to me to speak up on behalf of sloths everywhere.  Justice now for sloths!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on February 28, 2017, 11:17:07 PM
Sloths move too. ssssllllooowwwllllyyyy
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on February 28, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
Not before coffee.  I'm pretty sure....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Sailor Sam on February 28, 2017, 11:54:22 PM
as if it was just assumed that we would all go out and move our bodies at some speed or another first thing in the morning

I actually have a secret loathing of exercising first thing in the morning. Shhhhh, don't tell anyone.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on March 01, 2017, 03:06:15 AM
Did somebody say conga line? If I do go, I can lead that. It's in my blood.

I guess I am waiting for my FIRE fate to be decided on in the next couple of months bfore I make my CMC attendance decision.
Haven't you read that there are now ONLY SIX BUNKS LEFT - leave it for a week, and you won't be able to get a ticket!

Yes, I've been biting my nails under the stress of that knowledge. I must say this sudden mention of a conga line feels like a sign from the universe that I should attend.

Daisy, please come and relieve me from the stress of leading a conga line. Xo Paula
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 01, 2017, 08:26:41 AM
This has been a delightful conversation filled with conga lines and sloths (maybe even sloths IN a conga line?) so to veer it to slightly more serious topics - this is a heads up from your resident money launderer.

New month, new exchange rate.

For March payments, I'm going with USD38.14 for CDN$50 (Exchange rate of 0.76278263) or USD $179.25 for CDN$235 for full payment.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 01, 2017, 08:48:03 AM
5 Spots Remaining
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on March 01, 2017, 09:14:14 AM
I fall somewhere between coffee drinker and walker. Slothfulness is likely to be involved in either case. I will be cutting out at noon (at the latest) on Sunday.

I have that feeling JS described during his Seattle meetup...very excited, but also nervous/anxious due to my strong introvertedness. Three days of socializing with strangers is far beyond my comfort zone, but I will do my best! A bottle of bourbon may help.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 01, 2017, 09:28:45 AM
See email.. I'm coming to CMC
Title: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on March 01, 2017, 09:29:11 AM
Awesome! My husband is coming, too! Are you bringing The Redhead?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 01, 2017, 09:31:49 AM
Awesome! My husband is coming, too! Are you bringing The Redhead?

We talked about it but its not really her thing.. She may go see another friend while we're out that way.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: okits on March 01, 2017, 09:44:44 AM
See email.. I'm coming to CMC

Awesome!  This is definitely the Seattle Effect.  Does that mean credit goes to the Seattle instigator, Monkey Jenga?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 01, 2017, 09:51:21 AM
See email.. I'm coming to CMC

Awesome!  This is definitely the Seattle Effect.  Does that mean credit goes to the Seattle instigator, Monkey Jenga?

OMG.. Thats like throwing gasoline on a flame...:)

OK, she might have SOMETHING to do with it...;)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 01, 2017, 09:57:29 AM
4 spots remaining...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Jon_Snow on March 01, 2017, 10:39:53 AM
I have that feeling JS described during his Seattle meetup...very excited, but also nervous/anxious due to my strong introvertedness. Three days of socializing with strangers is far beyond my comfort zone, but I will do my best! A bottle of bourbon may help.

Andy...IT'S GONNA BE OKAY. The fact that this is coming from me should be all the reassurance that you require.

It's been mentioned elsewhere, but I might as well confirm it here at CMC ground-central, that I am attending. We can hang out Andy. :)

A question I have: will there be (biting) bugs?

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on March 01, 2017, 10:47:27 AM
I have that feeling JS described during his Seattle meetup...very excited, but also nervous/anxious due to my strong introvertedness. Three days of socializing with strangers is far beyond my comfort zone, but I will do my best! A bottle of bourbon may help.

Andy...IT'S GONNA BE OKAY. The fact that this is coming from me should be all the reassurance that you require.

It's been mentioned elsewhere, but I might as well confirm it here at CMC ground-central, that I am attending. We can hang out Andy. :)

A question I have: will there be (biting) bugs?
DON'T PRESSURE ME LIKE THIS! (kidding)

i'm looking forward to it overall!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: avrex on March 01, 2017, 10:49:24 AM
Awesome.
Jon_Snow is coming as well!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 01, 2017, 11:10:20 AM
I am 80% confident saying that mozzies will be done by the time we are doing our camp thing. The nights should be cool enough to hold them off. But then there's the whole climate change/global warming/southern Ontario dynamic.

I don't think we'll need bug juice, but I don't want to say I'm 100% sure of that. Usually anytime after October 1 you are safe from them but a few warm days could bring them out.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 01, 2017, 11:24:18 AM
It's blowing my mind that people are traveling from all over for this. Loving it!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on March 01, 2017, 11:59:15 AM
I also just received my Canada National Parks pass mentioned in another thread. It does look like I should go. I will email in the next day or two so save a spot for me.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on March 01, 2017, 12:18:20 PM
See email.. I'm coming to CMC

Hot damn!  Things just got real. :D

I am attending.

Nice!

Between you and Frank, MJ did some nice recruiting.

May need to hire her to travel around, attending local Mustachian meetups to promote for Camp Mustaches.

It does look like I should go.

Yay!  :D
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CheapskateWife on March 01, 2017, 12:24:36 PM
I may be flying solo...but I'm coming!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 01, 2017, 12:33:41 PM
I may be flying solo...but I'm coming!

Are you flying or biking? Seems like a long way to go on your MS ride!

I'll check email tonight around 9:30.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cannot Wait! on March 01, 2017, 12:38:06 PM
See email.. I'm coming to CMC

Hot damn!  Things just got real. :D

I am attending.

Nice!

Between you and Frank, MJ did some nice recruiting.

May need to hire her to travel around, attending local Mustachian meetups to promote for Camp Mustaches.

It does look like I should go.

Yay!  :D

Holy Shit.  This is fantastic.  Now all we need is Kreigs!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on March 01, 2017, 12:49:36 PM
 


Holy Shit.  This is fantastic.  Now all we need is Kreigs!

actually...it has come to my attention that recruitment of BJ has been incomplete so far. I mean, we probably can't fit the ENTIRE forum into one camp, but we can try really hard.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on March 01, 2017, 01:05:42 PM
I thought Kriegsy was coming?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: NinetyFour on March 01, 2017, 01:43:43 PM
See email.. I'm coming to CMC

Hot damn!  Things just got real. :D

I am attending.

Nice!

Between you and Frank, MJ did some nice recruiting.

May need to hire her to travel around, attending local Mustachian meetups to promote for Camp Mustaches.

It was actually a group effort.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 01, 2017, 01:50:21 PM
I thought Kriegsy was coming?

Someone should confirm this. Who wants to read back through the thread and check?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on March 01, 2017, 01:56:09 PM
I sent him a PM.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on March 01, 2017, 02:34:43 PM
I'm glad you're coming, CheapskateWife!  :D

So awesome we're gonna fill this with forum folks.  Random Mustachians Pete tweets at is cool, too, but this will be much more familiar/social.  Fun!

I thought Kriegsy was coming?

Someone should confirm this. Who wants to read back through the thread and check?

I thought he was too; has he not booked a ticket?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 01, 2017, 02:42:55 PM
I'm glad you're coming, CheapskateWife!  :D

So awesome we're gonna fill this with forum folks.  Random Mustachians Pete tweets at is cool, too, but this will be much more familiar/social.  Fun!

I thought Kriegsy was coming?

Someone should confirm this. Who wants to read back through the thread and check?

I thought he was too; has he not booked a ticket?

My #1 policy is that I will not out whether anyone has bought a ticket or not. Some folks would like to keep their attendance quiet for privacy reasons.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Axecleaver on March 01, 2017, 02:53:11 PM
Mrs Axe and I will be attending. I will present the second session on Friday. Preparing presentation on How to Start Your Services Business. I grew my consulting practice to 954k in revenue over three years.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on March 01, 2017, 03:03:37 PM
I sent him a PM.

pbk, the one person who wants Kriegs there more than I do. ;)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on March 01, 2017, 03:17:37 PM
I sent him a PM.

pbk, the one person who wants Kriegs there more than I do. ;)

So true. I am, however, developing a fondness for Ice Beard.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on March 01, 2017, 03:20:38 PM
Prosp, axe just outed himself as a speaker. To save time, do you want me to quote his post and call it a speaker intro?

Also, I'm not done being overwhelmed by reading the number 12000 yesterday, and now people are throwing numbers like 954k around. I think we should have ARS set up a meditation corner that we can each retreat to when giant numbers freak us out.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CheapskateWife on March 01, 2017, 03:29:53 PM
I may be flying solo...but I'm coming!

Are you flying or biking? Seems like a long way to go on your MS ride!
Its a 1600 mile trip from door to door...if I'm going to ride, best to go ahead and start now.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on March 01, 2017, 03:39:38 PM
Yay CSW! Another friend I can't wait to meet!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 01, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
Prosp, axe just outed himself as a speaker. To save time, do you want me to quote his post and call it a speaker intro?

Also, I'm not done being overwhelmed by reading the number 12000 yesterday, and now people are throwing numbers like 954k around. I think we should have ARS set up a meditation corner that we can each retreat to when giant numbers freak us out.

I think we need a presenter to tell us now "Not to do anything more than precisely buggar all for months at a time, feel happy about it and definitely NOT go round disturbing the peace by making $94k"...:)

This might be a "POST FI" forum.. hahahah
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 01, 2017, 04:07:03 PM
Prosp, axe just outed himself as a speaker. To save time, do you want me to quote his post and call it a speaker intro?

Also, I'm not done being overwhelmed by reading the number 12000 yesterday, and now people are throwing numbers like 954k around. I think we should have ARS set up a meditation corner that we can each retreat to when giant numbers freak us out.

I think we need a presenter to tell us now "Not to do anything more than precisely buggar all for months at a time, feel happy about it and definitely NOT go round disturbing the peace by making $94k"...:)

This might be a "POST FI" forum.. hahahah

I might be most qualified for this topic 😄
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Axecleaver on March 01, 2017, 05:06:16 PM
That's just a revenue number, it's a lot lower once I get done paying all my employees and expenses. And 2017 is off to a crappy start for me!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on March 01, 2017, 05:48:19 PM
That's just a revenue number, it's a lot lower once I get done paying all my employees and expenses. And 2017 is off to a crappy start for me!
Hey, that will just make for a better, more relatable presentation: how to overcome setbacks.

I can't say I have interest in starting a business, but I'm very much looking forward to the presentation...I thoroughly enjoy your journal.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on March 01, 2017, 06:35:34 PM
<3 I am dearly going to miss meeting you all, but I don't think I can swing the vacation stich in October. I counted out all my planned days off, and I only have 2 for wiggle room. This would leave me with zero wiggle room, which is just cutting it too close. 
I hope you all have a blast, though, and I will be 110% envious of you cool kids having fun!
:3
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 01, 2017, 06:45:31 PM
<3 I am dearly going to miss meeting you all, but I don't think I can swing the vacation stich in October. I counted out all my planned days off, and I only have 2 for wiggle room. This would leave me with zero wiggle room, which is just cutting it too close. 
I hope you all have a blast, though, and I will be 110% envious of you cool kids having fun!
:3

SKYPE NIGHT!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Orvell on March 01, 2017, 06:48:01 PM
<3 I am dearly going to miss meeting you all, but I don't think I can swing the vacation stich in October. I counted out all my planned days off, and I only have 2 for wiggle room. This would leave me with zero wiggle room, which is just cutting it too close. 
I hope you all have a blast, though, and I will be 110% envious of you cool kids having fun!
:3

SKYPE NIGHT!
YES!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 01, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
Prosp, axe just outed himself as a speaker. To save time, do you want me to quote his post and call it a speaker intro?

Also, I'm not done being overwhelmed by reading the number 12000 yesterday, and now people are throwing numbers like 954k around. I think we should have ARS set up a meditation corner that we can each retreat to when giant numbers freak us out.

I think we need a presenter to tell us now "Not to do anything more than precisely buggar all for months at a time, feel happy about it and definitely NOT go round disturbing the peace by making $94k"...:)

This might be a "POST FI" forum.. hahahah

I might be most qualified for this topic 😄
I think I'd have you beat on this ;-).

Ah yes, but you'd have to show up. Shall I dog sit for you for an hour or so? I have experience with terriers - they can provide references.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 01, 2017, 07:39:33 PM
CMC Speaker Intro:

Monkey Jenga as the Angry Life Cheerleader

Who the hell am I? I don't deserve to present anything at Camp Mustache Canada.

EXCEPT FOR THAT I'M AWESOME.

And guess what? SO ARE YOU.

As Angry Life Cheerleader, I lovingly yell at people who are afraid to do things. You can do the thing! And if you can't, it's the thing's fault!

These things that you can do include:
Angry Life Cheerleading is proven to be effective. People who allow themselves to be angry-cheerleaded end up with more money, better work-balance, and a 100% increase in happiness*.

*NOTE: Happiness quantified by easily faked observational analysis.

I'm not only the Angry Life Cheerleader president. I'm also a client. I overcame my own perfectionism and Imposter Syndrome that had kept me overworked and underpaid. Without a college degree, I worked my way up from temp jobs to a six-figure salary in only five years. It could have happened a lot more quickly, and with a lot less stress, if I knew then what I know now.

That is: your competition isn't as good as you think, and everybody else thinks you're awesome. Just freaking accept it already. Now go and tell your boss exactly why you deserve more money (AND MAYBE FREE SKY-DIVING LESSONS???).

Join us for a high-energy group cheerleading session to break through barriers and maximize life choices and savings. We'll focus on individual goals and learn how to be our own Angry Life Cheerleaders, in the loudest, excitingest, and cheeringest session of Camp Mustache Canada.

Pom-poms optional, but encouraged.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 01, 2017, 08:38:19 PM
I just had a thought.. With no driving to do I could be ever so slightly intoxicated!

I'm happy to do a presentation on sky diving or flying aerobatics.. The stories get more impressive when fueled with alcohol..:)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 01, 2017, 08:46:57 PM
I'll pm you tomorrow exflyboy... ARS and I were talking yesterday and this could fall nicely into what we were considering.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: monstermonster on March 01, 2017, 09:15:19 PM
I really want that giant numbers freakout meditation corner.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on March 01, 2017, 09:42:48 PM
That was a super entertaining Speaker Intro. Although now I keep hearing about how nice she is due to the Seattle meetup. NICE LIFE CHEERLEADER? Doesn't have the same ring.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 04:52:27 AM
I really want that giant numbers freakout meditation corner.

I wish had the sort of huge numbers that sent people scurrying to meditation corners.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 02, 2017, 06:02:35 AM
I really want that giant numbers freakout meditation corner.

I wish had the sort of huge numbers that sent people scurrying to meditation corners.

Negative numbers do the same thing! Many paths....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 02, 2017, 07:53:30 AM
We are filling up so insanely fast my head is spinning! This. is. awesome.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 08:31:06 AM
We are filling up so insanely fast my head is spinning! This. is. awesome.

Two spots remain. Two. And the only reason those are up for grabs is because we've decided to send teh boys to grandma's house rather than have them be the only kids at CMC.

After these spots are gone your only chance to get a spot will be if someone drops out.

I am amazed that this thing has basically sold out 6 months early. Wow.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on March 02, 2017, 08:35:20 AM
And it is all because of you, being a wonderful person and getting all of us involved. You made this whole thing. All. By. Yourself.

Then you got us amazing speakers. And arranged rides for us. And still did your job, your dad stuff, and the bar house. I think you deserve a few naps
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on March 02, 2017, 09:08:45 AM
And it is all because of you, being a wonderful person and getting all of us involved. You made this whole thing. All. By. Yourself.

Then you got us amazing speakers. And arranged rides for us. And still did your job, your dad stuff, and the bar house. I think you deserve a few naps

+1
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on March 02, 2017, 09:10:45 AM
MJ, this is SO cool, I can't wait to hear from you and the ALC!

Prospector, you have done an awesome job planning this whole thing, and it is going to be amazing! Thank you for all of your hard work in bringing everyone together and planning such a great itinerary.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CheapskateWife on March 02, 2017, 09:25:44 AM
You guys!  Its sinking in...I'm coming to Canada to meet my internet friends IRL.  How cool is this!

Oh, I can make contributions to the homesteading discussion in the form of beekeeping and backyard chickening.  Not that Goblin Chief can't cover his allotted time period, of course.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 02, 2017, 09:35:18 AM
Seriously this is so cool.. I normally avoid such things (I mean its probably a thousand dollar trip from the West coast).. But sometimes you just have to do things that will be this awesome..:)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 09:38:01 AM
You guys are so kind. Please don't judge my success until you've received the deliverable!

Cheapskate - the common theme for these events (with the exception of keynotes) is that the presenter gives a brief framework to start the discussion, and then the attendees share ideas. I hope you will bring your beekeeping and chicken ideas!! And I hope you share them freely!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 02, 2017, 09:38:51 AM
And it is all because of you, being a wonderful person and getting all of us involved. You made this whole thing. All. By. Yourself.

Then you got us amazing speakers. And arranged rides for us. And still did your job, your dad stuff, and the bar house. I think you deserve a few naps

+100
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 09:43:44 AM
Seriously this is so cool.. I normally avoid such things (I mean its probably a thousand dollar trip from the West coast).. But sometimes you just have to do things that will be this awesome..:)

When I looked at flying to Seattle, I thought I could do it around $600 CAD if I used transit and couchsurfed. A rental car and hotels really ups the budget.

I think a bunch of locals - including myself - have offered couchsurfing opportunities, and I'm hoping folks will rideshare openly.

If you choose to have a $1000 vacation, go for it! I am doing my best to keep this as low cost as I can though.

On that note - there will not be mints on your pillows. There will not be gold cords on the non-existant silk and lace window coverings, and there will be no marble floors. Please keep expectations in line with the price tag.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 09:45:21 AM
And it is all because of you, being a wonderful person and getting all of us involved. You made this whole thing. All. By. Yourself.

Then you got us amazing speakers. And arranged rides for us. And still did your job, your dad stuff, and the bar house. I think you deserve a few naps

+100

OK Elaine - this is just getting silly. Everyone should be thanking you for stepping in and making USD payment work so this whole thing can go forward.

Can we go back to talking about rental cars and packing?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 02, 2017, 09:46:37 AM
No Mints?.. WTF?...:)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 09:49:12 AM
No Mints?.. WTF?...:)

If anyone wants to bring a box of Mint Thins to CMC, EFB would like one on his pillow.

Done. Next?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: NinetyFour on March 02, 2017, 09:51:57 AM
No Mints?.. WTF?...:)

If anyone wants to bring a box of Mint Thins to CMC, EFB would like one on his pillow.

Done. Next?

I will bring him some chocolate!  😉
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 02, 2017, 10:16:43 AM
No big fluffy robes then?
We have to ladle the water over the hot rock in the spa ourselves?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 02, 2017, 10:24:16 AM
No big fluffy robes then?
We have to ladle the water over the hot rock in the spa ourselves?

I know right.. This is starting to sound like actual work...:).. (disclaimer, I don't remember what actual work feels like).
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 02, 2017, 10:26:07 AM
I will bring him some chocolate!  😉

Now you're setting up expectations for the rest of us. Can I have some chocolate too pretty please?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 02, 2017, 10:29:14 AM
No big fluffy robes then?
We have to ladle the water over the hot rock in the spa ourselves?

I know right.. This is starting to sound like actual work...:).. (disclaimer, I don't remember what actual work feels like).

Wow - not even a 'Sorry" yet from the Canadians!  What is this world coming too?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 02, 2017, 10:41:06 AM
No big fluffy robes then?
We have to ladle the water over the hot rock in the spa ourselves?

I know right.. This is starting to sound like actual work...:).. (disclaimer, I don't remember what actual work feels like).

Wow - not even a 'Sorry" yet from the Canadians!  What is this world coming too?

Or a "Sorry, eh?" even..:)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on March 02, 2017, 10:41:31 AM
No big fluffy robes then?
We have to ladle the water over the hot rock in the spa ourselves?

I know right.. This is starting to sound like actual work...:).. (disclaimer, I don't remember what actual work feels like).

Wow - not even a 'Sorry" yet from the Canadians!  What is this world coming too?

No sorries, sorry.  Maybe because we know what a kid's camp is like and we know what we are getting into?  As in, Roughing it in the Bush was written in Canada, eh?  I have been quietly giggling at most of this.

Re the spa and sauna, dream on.

My packing list:
Warm clothes
More warm clothes
Flannelette pyjamas
Warm slippers
Warm socks.
Fleece blanket for extra night warmth.
Sleeping bag, pillow, maybe a foamie as well.
Shower supplies.
One tshirt, just in case.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 02, 2017, 10:43:53 AM
No sorries, sorry.  Maybe because we know what a kid's camp is like and we know what we are getting into?  As in, Roughing it in the Bush was written in Canada, eh?  I have been quietly giggling at most of this.

Re the spa and sauna, dream on.

My packing list:
Warm clothes
More warm clothes
Flannelette pyjamas
Warm slippers
Warm socks.
Fleece blanket for extra night warmth.
Sleeping bag, pillow, maybe a foamie as well.
Shower supplies.
One tshirt, just in case.

Now you're perpetuating all those stereotypes that we live in igloos!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 02, 2017, 10:44:48 AM
No big fluffy robes then?
We have to ladle the water over the hot rock in the spa ourselves?

I know right.. This is starting to sound like actual work...:).. (disclaimer, I don't remember what actual work feels like).

Wow - not even a 'Sorry" yet from the Canadians!  What is this world coming too?

No sorries, sorry.  Maybe because we know what a kid's camp is like and we know what we are getting into?  As in, Roughing it in the Bush was written in Canada, eh?  I have been quietly giggling at most of this.

Re the spa and sauna, dream on.

My packing list:
Warm clothes
More warm clothes
Flannelette pyjamas
Warm slippers
Warm socks.
Fleece blanket for extra night warmth.
Sleeping bag, pillow, maybe a foamie as well.
Shower supplies.
One tshirt, just in case.

No bras or underwear listed....hmmmm.

Sorry...

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on March 02, 2017, 10:52:37 AM
packing list:
*no idea. a bunch of clothes (depends on weather)
*hats
*toiletries
*pillow/blanket
(i assume we need to provide our own bedding???)
*a bottle of bourbon

Travel:
*renting a car.
*driving 9hrs from Louisville to Toronto on Thursday
*CMC: Fri-Su
*Driving to NYC on Sunday.
*Sis is flying out to meet me in NYC.
*Stay in NYC Sunday night-Friday morning
*Drive 13 hours back to Louisville.
*die on my couch

I am quite looking forward to October!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: monstermonster on March 02, 2017, 10:57:34 AM
You all are doing far more planning than me, you are WAY ahead of the game.

Step 1: Book 4 paying speaking gigs at colleges in the Northeast US near CMC.
Step 2: Then figure out how to get there & book flights.
Step 3: Then packing list. The only thing I can guarantee I'm bringing is a bowie costume.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on March 02, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
If anybody is on the drive path from Louisville to CMC then i can offer a ride, but i will driving up on Thursday and staying somewhere...and I will not be driving back, so you may have to fly home or something...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
If anybody is on the drive path from Louisville to CMC then i can offer a ride, but i will driving up on Thursday and staying somewhere...and I will not be driving back, so you may have to fly home or something...

Its OK Andy, lately a lot of folks are coming up from the States and just not returning.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Ben Hogan on March 02, 2017, 11:30:10 AM


Its OK Andy, lately a lot of folks are coming up from the States and just not returning.


That would be awesome! less competition for realestate! :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on March 02, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
I'm glad you're coming, CheapskateWife!  :D

So awesome we're gonna fill this with forum folks.  Random Mustachians Pete tweets at is cool, too, but this will be much more familiar/social.  Fun!

I thought Kriegsy was coming?

Someone should confirm this. Who wants to read back through the thread and check?

I thought he was too; has he not booked a ticket?

My #1 policy is that I will not out whether anyone has bought a ticket or not. Some folks would like to keep their attendance quiet for privacy reasons.

Fair enough.

I'll assume his earlier comment I can no longer recall and don't want to dig for but that gave me the impression he was coming was accurate.

I'll FURTHER assume he has an awesome, secret, hilarious presentation that will make it onto the speaker list as "Mystery Presentation."

I am getting SO HYPED for this, btw.

You guys are gonna be so upset when you have to choose between presentations.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on March 02, 2017, 11:38:46 AM
What is a FOAMIE?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on March 02, 2017, 11:53:43 AM
Protip: If you carry everything you own with you, no need for a packing list.  :)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on March 02, 2017, 12:05:54 PM
So, we will have twin beds. I assume sheets will work? I looked up "foamie", which seems to be a foam mattress pad. Are the mattresses thin? Are there some blankets and/or pillows?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on March 02, 2017, 12:37:55 PM
So, we will have twin beds. I assume sheets will work? I looked up "foamie", which seems to be a foam mattress pad. Are the mattresses thin? Are there some blankets and/or pillows?
By the time we get there they may have changed the beds (or at least the mattresses) - especially as they will have their normal campers staying there between now and then. As there will be a lot of questions about what to bring, perhaps there should be a separate "what to bring to CMC" thread rather than using the general meetup thread for this.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 01:28:13 PM
After May 1, once everyone has paid, I will be publishing a packing list for all to consume.

Hopefully 5 months is enough time for everyone to pack. If not, I apologize now for the short notice.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 01:29:12 PM
What is a FOAMIE?

A foam pad.

You won't need one unless you are particularly germ averse and/or need a special mattress topper.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on March 02, 2017, 01:40:44 PM

No bras or underwear listed....hmmmm.

Sorry...

I was being discrete.  ;-)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 02, 2017, 01:42:31 PM

No bras or underwear listed....hmmmm.

Sorry...

I was being discrete.  ;-)

Good call....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on March 02, 2017, 01:44:53 PM
No sorries, sorry.  Maybe because we know what a kid's camp is like and we know what we are getting into?  As in, Roughing it in the Bush was written in Canada, eh?  I have been quietly giggling at most of this.

Re the spa and sauna, dream on.

My packing list:
Warm clothes
More warm clothes
Flannelette pyjamas
Warm slippers
Warm socks.
Fleece blanket for extra night warmth.
Sleeping bag, pillow, maybe a foamie as well.
Shower supplies.
One tshirt, just in case.

Now you're perpetuating all those stereotypes that we live in igloos!

No, there are no -40 Sorel boots on the list, no heavy duty coats plus scarves plus hats plus snowmobile mittens plus balaclavas plus snow pants.  That would be on a January list.  ;-)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 01:45:43 PM
Hello everyone. I need your help.

Its about those 2 last bunks.

Can you get on the phone with your mom, your favourite waiter at you favourite restaurant, your great aunt Murmel, the annoying real estate agent who  won't stop tryin gto get you to list your house, whoever you can think of, just call those guys and let them know...

CMC IS SOLD OUT, MUTHA-UCKKKA!!!!!


(Purple font used to soften the message for Jessa's family)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: andy85 on March 02, 2017, 01:50:12 PM
wow...those last 7 went quick.

now we wait....only 8 more months...sighhhhhhh
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on March 02, 2017, 01:56:08 PM
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Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CheapskateWife on March 02, 2017, 01:58:42 PM
I'm so glad we didn't wait any longer...hubs is super excited to be coming too!

He said he'd be happy to speak about mustachian hair care ;-)

Oh, JR said something about getting papers together...I've never crossed the border by road...do I need anything more than my passport to enter Canada?  Do I have to ask permission first?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on March 02, 2017, 02:12:00 PM
I work best under pressure.

That, and I ran out of nails to bite.

So glad I got off my procrastination and decided to go.

Next item to cross off the procrastination list - actually FIRE ing before CMC 2017.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 02, 2017, 02:44:56 PM
I'm so glad we didn't wait any longer...hubs is super excited to be coming too!

He said he'd be happy to speak about mustachian hair care ;-)

Oh, JR said something about getting papers together...I've never crossed the border by road...do I need anything more than my passport to enter Canada?  Do I have to ask permission first?

Your passport is all you need. No permission required :)

Technically - you don't need a passport to enter Canada. I believe all Americans need to show is a birth certificate? (That's all Canadians need to show anyway). But you'll need a passport to go back into the US. But maybe some folks just want to stay here permanently.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CheapskateWife on March 02, 2017, 02:47:15 PM
I'm so glad we didn't wait any longer...hubs is super excited to be coming too!

He said he'd be happy to speak about mustachian hair care ;-)

Oh, JR said something about getting papers together...I've never crossed the border by road...do I need anything more than my passport to enter Canada?  Do I have to ask permission first?

Your passport is all you need. No permission required :)
Damn, I was hoping at least for some sort of uber polite query at the border...just to be sure to keep the riff raff out.

Or a "permission to come aboard (ma'am, sir)?"

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on March 02, 2017, 02:47:58 PM
I work best under pressure.

That, and I ran out of nails to bite.

So glad I got off my procrastination and decided to go.

Next item to cross off the procrastination list - actually FIRE ing before CMC 2017.

Also, you need to prep for the conga line leadership role. The idea I have is that the runners go out first, the hikers second, and the walkers third. It's a straight line path, not a circuit. The fast people will catch up with the slower people on the way back, and then we will all conga line home.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 02:50:46 PM
Yes JR had some extenuating circumstances which he is trying to navigate.

For most people a passoport is all you need to enter Canada. It used to be just a driver's license. Then they tightened things up after 9-11.

If you are nervous, you can read the CSIB page here:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/apply-who.asp

If you meet the list below, you are good to go!

Basic requirements
To visit Canada, you will need to meet some basic requirements, such as:

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: deborah on March 02, 2017, 03:17:48 PM
Actually, if you arrive by plane, AND you are not from USA or Canada (and probably Mexico) you need an eTA (or at least I do - there may be somebody who actually needs a visa). But I suspect I am a minority of 1 (non-North-American). When I visited Canada last year (no eTA required because I came by RV), I only had to convince them that I didn't need a visa in my passport (the rule had only been in for a month). That took a while the first time (I crossed into Canada five times). After that, I got them to stamp my passport, and didn't have any problems.

It's getting into the US that gave me problems. They pinched my capsicums (the third time I went into the US with them). They trampled mud all through the RV (in the middle of a snow storm). They asked me why I had gone to the end of the pier half an hour ago (they must have been bored - I may have been the only person moving in their vicinity in the last two hours). They sent me somewhere for further questioning when I rolled up with a box of tissues and a bad cold...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 02, 2017, 03:25:58 PM
Dogs aren't allowed in the camp though, so have a plan if you are bringing them.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: FIFoFum on March 02, 2017, 05:29:50 PM
And if you're crossing the border with your dog make sure you have updated rabies and other vaccinations and license/tags. And 'Muricans - don't bring yer guns ya whackos ;-). Not allowed to bring across the border.

People with dogs may also have problems bringing unsealed/unlabeled dog food into Canada. Seems like this is not always enforced, but I know people who have gotten stuck.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on March 02, 2017, 06:41:19 PM
I work best under pressure.

That, and I ran out of nails to bite.

So glad I got off my procrastination and decided to go.

Next item to cross off the procrastination list - actually FIRE ing before CMC 2017.

Also, you need to prep for the conga line leadership role. The idea I have is that the runners go out first, the hikers second, and the walkers third. It's a straight line path, not a circuit. The fast people will catch up with the slower people on the way back, and then we will all conga line home.

Is Canada ready for a real conga line? I need to know what I'm dealing with...pure novices or real hard core adherents?

In other words, are you a Bugs Bunny?
https://youtu.be/8Okoh5HN1mo

Or a Desi Arnaz?
https://youtu.be/W5QrGD0oUgY
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: pbkmaine on March 02, 2017, 06:59:01 PM
Gosh, that's a tough one.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 02, 2017, 07:00:57 PM
Gosh, that's a tough one.

Yeah - Desi's actually looks easier....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 05:03:45 AM
I was thinking that Desi's was Jenga's worst nightmare.  So many women competing with her for that one guy.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 06:25:13 AM
Playing with the schedule...

We now have 3 additional speakers in the schedule, so I've been shuffling things around a little. It is NOT FIRM! Times and sessions may move around before it is finalized, so don't freak out (yet).

But for your information, we now have 3 speaker per session on Saturday. This makes a us a real conference. We are that special.

Topics for the additional speakers are still being ironed out.

I have pencilled in Day 3 fitness. I have also added other options for the group activity. I'm having a hard time making canoeing happen. I may offer it as an "extra" if folks want to pay for a rental boat. I am having a heart attack at how much rental places want us to pay to take out a canoe for a couple hours. I haven't given up yet though.

Watch the OP for details as they evolve.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: RetiredAt63 on March 03, 2017, 06:37:13 AM
I'm having a hard time making canoeing happen. I may offer it as an "extra" if folks want to pay for a rental boat. I am having a heart attack at how much rental places want us to pay to take out a canoe for a couple hours. I haven't given up yet though.


It's end of season (anything after Thanksgiving is end of season), you would think they would be happy to see us.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 03, 2017, 06:43:23 AM
Three sessions!? Aaahh! This is kind of bad news for me - will there be time to get to know people?
I already screwed this up before, so I may be sensitive on this point....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 06:45:55 AM
I'm having a hard time making canoeing happen. I may offer it as an "extra" if folks want to pay for a rental boat. I am having a heart attack at how much rental places want us to pay to take out a canoe for a couple hours. I haven't given up yet though.


It's end of season (anything after Thanksgiving is end of season), you would think they would be happy to see us.

You would think, but so far the best rate I've gotten is one outfit willing to give us last year's rate of $50 a head. That's $100 per boat.

This seems to be a business I should get into. At that rate, for every 3 days a boat was rented out, you could buy a new one.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CanuckExpat on March 03, 2017, 07:50:11 AM
I have pencilled in Day 3 fitness. I have also added other options for the group activity. I'm having a hard time making canoeing happen. I may offer it as an "extra" if folks want to pay for a rental boat. I am having a heart attack at how much rental places want us to pay to take out a canoe for a couple hours. I haven't given up yet though.

If we happen to have our own boat we could transport, could we dip it into the water there for informal boating, or would the venue not allow that?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: jordanread on March 03, 2017, 08:27:25 AM
I'm so glad we didn't wait any longer...hubs is super excited to be coming too!

He said he'd be happy to speak about mustachian hair care ;-)

Oh, JR said something about getting papers together...I've never crossed the border by road...do I need anything more than my passport to enter Canada?  Do I have to ask permission first?

Your passport is all you need. No permission required :)
Damn, I was hoping at least for some sort of uber polite query at the border...just to be sure to keep the riff raff out.

Or a "permission to come aboard (ma'am, sir)?"

Riff raff here, reporting for duty!!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CheapskateWife on March 03, 2017, 08:35:37 AM
I'm so glad we didn't wait any longer...hubs is super excited to be coming too!

He said he'd be happy to speak about mustachian hair care ;-)

Oh, JR said something about getting papers together...I've never crossed the border by road...do I need anything more than my passport to enter Canada?  Do I have to ask permission first?

Your passport is all you need. No permission required :)
Damn, I was hoping at least for some sort of uber polite query at the border...just to be sure to keep the riff raff out.

Or a "permission to come aboard (ma'am, sir)?"

Riff raff here, reporting for duty!!
We are riff raff too, hence my concern.  Since DH retired from the military he has allowed his hair and beard to grow...at this point he appears completely disreputable...just the way I like him.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 08:39:02 AM
I have pencilled in Day 3 fitness. I have also added other options for the group activity. I'm having a hard time making canoeing happen. I may offer it as an "extra" if folks want to pay for a rental boat. I am having a heart attack at how much rental places want us to pay to take out a canoe for a couple hours. I haven't given up yet though.

If we happen to have our own boat we could transport, could we dip it into the water there for informal boating, or would the venue not allow that?

I am planning on bringing 2 boats with this in mind. I don't think the venue will allow it in their pond, but there is a good river nearby.

If enough of us bring boats, we would not need to hire a rental service. OTOH - do you want to drive that far with a canoe strapped to the roof?

Snow???
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 03, 2017, 08:49:38 AM
You would think, but so far the best rate I've gotten is one outfit willing to give us last year's rate of $50 a head. That's $100 per boat.

This seems to be a business I should get into. At that rate, for every 3 days a boat was rented out, you could buy a new one.

UGH. $50/head is definitely out of this world insane. I'm used to paying about $35-40 for a full day rental. My own local outfitter charges $35 for 6 hours. I have seen some places charge a lot for canoes though. We have traveled near the Grand River and I can never stomach the prices the outfitters there charge.

Thanks for working on this! And if it's a no go, it's a bummer, but we'll still have plenty of fun things to do.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: rockstache on March 03, 2017, 09:11:45 AM
Three sessions!? Aaahh! This is kind of bad news for me - will there be time to get to know people?
I already screwed this up before, so I may be sensitive on this point....

+1 HOW WILL WE CHOOSE? And a question I had...if anyone speaks at the same time as the rebelspy family, will anyone go listen to them? Seems like that would be kind of a bummer for that speaker...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 09:27:48 AM
Three sessions!? Aaahh! This is kind of bad news for me - will there be time to get to know people?
I already screwed this up before, so I may be sensitive on this point....

+1 HOW WILL WE CHOOSE? And a question I had...if anyone speaks at the same time as the rebelspy family, will anyone go listen to them? Seems like that would be kind of a bummer for that speaker...

Let's say you are a Canadian, and the Spies are talking about travel hacking in the USA while an accountant is talking about tax optimization here. You can catch up with other attendees around the campfire to talk about travel hacking, but really I think it would be a no brainer to learn about the Canadian context... am I right?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 03, 2017, 09:54:04 AM
Let's say you are a Canadian, and the Spies are talking about travel hacking in the USA while an accountant is talking about tax optimization here. You can catch up with other attendees around the campfire to talk about travel hacking, but really I think it would be a no brainer to learn about the Canadian context... am I right?

Ack - I desperately need to listen to BOTH! Going to be some hard choices ahead...
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: PJ on March 03, 2017, 09:56:23 AM
Could we possibly arrange to video sessions?  Then, youtube?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on March 03, 2017, 12:03:10 PM
Let's say you are a Canadian, and the Spies are talking about travel hacking in the USA while an accountant is talking about tax optimization here. You can catch up with other attendees around the campfire to talk about travel hacking, but really I think it would be a no brainer to learn about the Canadian context... am I right?

Ack - I desperately need to listen to BOTH! Going to be some hard choices ahead...

That's one of the benefits of not being a Canadian...less stress over choices at CMC. That, and the US favored currency exchange rate. 😀
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 03, 2017, 12:22:03 PM
Hi All I was just about to drop my Check (cheque) in the mail from the US to Canada and realised thay are a "whole different country up there".

So thought I'd better check on how much postage to put on the envelope.

I got about 4 different answers but according to the USPS website it will cost $1:15 for a 1 ounce letter.

The current value of "forever stamps" is 49 cents.

So you will need THREE stamps.. OK got that?

Great..:)
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 12:25:16 PM
Wow. You gotta do real math to send in these things!!

Confession... I'm still sitting on a cheque from Ottawa from 2 weeks ago. It got here quick, but I've been slow to cash it.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: G-dog on March 03, 2017, 12:35:25 PM
Hi All I was just about to drop my Check (cheque) in the mail from the US to Canada and realised thay are a "whole different country up there".

So thought I'd better check on how much postage to put on the envelope.

I got about 4 different answers but according to the USPS website it will cost $1:15 for a 1 ounce letter.

The current value of "forever stamps" is 49 cents.

So you will need THREE stamps.. OK got that?

Great..:)

Or a universal international stamp....
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 12:43:26 PM
I'm so glad we didn't wait any longer...hubs is super excited to be coming too!

He said he'd be happy to speak about mustachian hair care ;-)

Oh, JR said something about getting papers together...I've never crossed the border by road...do I need anything more than my passport to enter Canada?  Do I have to ask permission first?

Your passport is all you need. No permission required :)
Damn, I was hoping at least for some sort of uber polite query at the border...just to be sure to keep the riff raff out.

Or a "permission to come aboard (ma'am, sir)?"

Its likely worthwhile to point out that at the border you will get a short set of questions.

We get out our passports/birth certificates/drivers licenses a few miles before the border, and the person in the passenger seat opens all of them to the photo page so the driver can give them to the border dude easily.

When you pull up to the window, the guard will usually ask 2 or three questions, along these lines:



If there are no weird answers and no flags are set off, you drive off merrily on your way. Sometimes something you say will set off the guard, or you will be the lucky candidate for a random secondary inspection. If this is the case, you will be handed a chit and asked to pull into "secondary inspection".

When pull in to secondary, you hand your chit to the friendly border guard who will ask everyone to get out of the car and stand "over there". The guard will then take a look at your documentation and give the car a cursory glance. A sniffer dog may walk around the car. Normally things end there, you hop back in the car and carry on.

If the secondary uncovers something incongruous (you said you were travelling for pleasure, but you have a contract for work in the car... etc.) you will be taken inside for more thorough questioning. This is where shit gets real. It has only happened to me once. Actually, they took my 3 yr old daughter in to question her. As soon as the "policeman" got her behind the counter she started screaming "Daddy don't let them take me away!!!" and that was proof they needed that she was my kid and I was not abducting her. They gave her back and we drove on.

Basically if you let them know you are travelling for pleasure, have all your personal papers nicely together, and are pleasant you should have no issues at all. We've crossed the border literally hundreds of times, and have been pulled aside maybe ten times. Max.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Exflyboy on March 03, 2017, 01:07:34 PM
OK, thats gets you in.. Now getting out and you picked up your expired Green Card (like I did once).. Lets just say that is NOT recommended!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 01:14:53 PM
Jenga - if you are serious about doing this uberfrugal, there is a Megabus between Toronto and NYC. I don't know what is schedule is like or how safe it is, but it does exist. One of our Aupairs used it and did the trip for under $100 IIRC.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: ElleFiji on March 03, 2017, 01:34:16 PM
Jenga - if you are serious about doing this uberfrugal, there is a Megabus between Toronto and NYC. I don't know what is schedule is like or how safe it is, but it does exist. One of our Aupairs used it and did the trip for under $100 IIRC.
Mega bus to Montreal has always been successful for me. NYC should be the same
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CheapskateWife on March 03, 2017, 01:48:15 PM
So what would be the best way for a frugal couple flying into Detroit to get to CMC?  Rent a car?  Take a bus?  Hitchhike? (we just watched Into the Wild and now hitchhiking seems perfectly reasonable) 
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: MonkeyJenga on March 03, 2017, 01:48:41 PM
Jenga - if you are serious about doing this uberfrugal, there is a Megabus between Toronto and NYC. I don't know what is schedule is like or how safe it is, but it does exist. One of our Aupairs used it and did the trip for under $100 IIRC.

I don't know exactly what my breaking point is, but 12 hours on a bus is past it.

If I stay with you beforehand, is Toronto airport best?
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 02:00:01 PM
Jenga - if you are serious about doing this uberfrugal, there is a Megabus between Toronto and NYC. I don't know what is schedule is like or how safe it is, but it does exist. One of our Aupairs used it and did the trip for under $100 IIRC.

I don't know exactly what my breaking point is, but 12 hours on a bus is past it.

If I stay with you beforehand, is Toronto airport best?

Yes - Either of the Toronto Airports. (Pearson - YYZ, or Billy Bishop Island Airport - YTZ) Billy Bishop is fastest to our place.

Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 03, 2017, 02:14:56 PM
So what would be the best way for a frugal couple flying into Detroit to get to CMC?  Rent a car?  Take a bus?  Hitchhike? (we just watched Into the Wild and now hitchhiking seems perfectly reasonable)

Try and hook up with a carpool headed through Detroit? Most people traveling north through Detroit would come up past the airport. I'd suggest if you go this route to get an airport hotel to make it easier for carpool timing. There won't be any buses available to get from Detroit to CMC so car rental would be your next best option.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Cherry Lane on March 03, 2017, 02:16:03 PM
Hi All I was just about to drop my Check (cheque) in the mail from the US to Canada and realised thay are a "whole different country up there".

So thought I'd better check on how much postage to put on the envelope.

I got about 4 different answers but according to the USPS website it will cost $1:15 for a 1 ounce letter.

The current value of "forever stamps" is 49 cents.

So you will need THREE stamps.. OK got that?

Great..:)

Or just let Elaine do the money laundering for you. That requires zero stamps.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 03, 2017, 02:18:21 PM
Hi All I was just about to drop my Check (cheque) in the mail from the US to Canada and realised thay are a "whole different country up there".

So thought I'd better check on how much postage to put on the envelope.

I got about 4 different answers but according to the USPS website it will cost $1:15 for a 1 ounce letter.

The current value of "forever stamps" is 49 cents.

So you will need THREE stamps.. OK got that?

Great..:)

Or just let Elaine do the money laundering for you. That requires zero stamps.

In his case, he'd like to mail a check - and that has to go to my Canadian address so I can deposit it in a timely manner (thank goodness for bank apps that let you deposit checks from anywhere!). So yeah - stamp still required in some situations even with my money laundering services. I just got a check for CMC today with a pretty global stamp.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Le Poisson on March 03, 2017, 02:33:09 PM
So what would be the best way for a frugal couple flying into Detroit to get to CMC?  Rent a car?  Take a bus?  Hitchhike? (we just watched Into the Wild and now hitchhiking seems perfectly reasonable)

Try and hook up with a carpool headed through Detroit? Most people traveling north through Detroit would come up past the airport. I'd suggest if you go this route to get an airport hotel to make it easier for carpool timing. There won't be any buses available to get from Detroit to CMC so car rental would be your next best option.

Detroit to Camp is 3 hours or so. And (sorry Elaine) its boring highway miles. If you can get a flight at the same price to Buffalo, I think it would be a better option. If you are visiting friends in Detroit, that's a different story.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: CheapskateWife on March 03, 2017, 03:00:12 PM
Oh, Buffalo is a $50 cheaper flight than Detroit...and we could go see Niagra Falls (there aint nothing I want to see (again) in Detroit.)  This trip is going to be amazing!
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: Daisy on March 03, 2017, 04:41:13 PM
I would probably fly to Buffalo too. I was already scouting out seeing Niagara Falls and maybe the Finger Lakes. It's been a long while since I've been to either of those.

If I am truly FIRE'd by then I won't be in any rush.

I also have to see if I'll take advantage of my free pass to Canadian parks on the trip.
Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: elaine amj on March 03, 2017, 10:53:46 PM
I agree - flying to Buffalo would be closer to Camp and yes, even I have to admit it is more interesting driving.


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Title: Re: Camp Mustache Canada - 2017
Post by: arebelspy on March 04, 2017, 12:29:24 AM
Three sessions!? Aaahh! This is kind of bad news for me - will there be time to get to know people?

The breakout sessions are where you learn things... it's the REST of the time you get to know people.

(That part of the weekend is even better than the sessions.)