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Year 17/20 of Term Life Insurance - should I keep it?
« on: March 06, 2024, 09:45:11 PM »
Hello all, I am new to MMM lifestyle but am working hard at catching up.  I have a $500,000 20-year "Term Life Insurance to Age 95" policy with a Terminal Illness Accelerated Benefit Rider.  I am in year 17 of the 20 years of level payments which are only $285 per year until 2028 when I will be age 58; at that point the premiums go up significantly to $4,375 that year and increase every year after that.  By age 70 it would be $11,775 per year.

I no longer NEED life insurance, it would only be a part of an inheritance for my son.  He is currently a typically-financially-struggling but otherwise independent kind 22 year old with a good head on his shoulders.  My husband died 2 years ago.  No one is dependent on me financially.  I seem to be in good health with a mixed family history. 

Should I drop this ASAP (i.e. would the money be better invested?) or is this currently a good enough deal to keep at this point? and if it is, how do I decide which year is the year to drop it?  (Ugh and Yuck - a big gambling game on my own lifespan!)

I am generally not a fan of insurance because it is such big business but I do have to say that even thought I didn't NEED the life insurance that I got when my husband died (because I can support myself), it did allow me time, space, and the freedom to dig deep into grief work, and self-exploration and contemplation and has let me make changes in my life to the point that I am happier than I have ever been.  But I know that this "anecdotal evidence" isn't a logical reason to keep this policy.

Thanks for the help y'all!


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Re: Year 17/20 of Term Life Insurance - should I keep it?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2024, 10:31:33 PM »
I would drop it if it were $5/year because, as you state, YOU don't need it and neither does your son.  Are you in good health?  If so there is a huge chance your money will be wasted. So drop it and take your son out for a fabulous dinner.

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Re: Year 17/20 of Term Life Insurance - should I keep it?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2024, 11:19:07 PM »
If you don't need it, then drop it. It's only $285 a year now, so I'd probably keep it until 2028, because for a couple hundred dollars, your son would get a nice inheritance should anything happen to you. However, once the premiums go up like crazy, I'd probably get rid of it. Term life is not designed to be an inheritance vehicle. Amongst insurance policies, whole life or universal life policies are more appropriate vehicles for generational wealth transfer, and even then, it's only appropriate in certain situations.

Since you mentioned inheritance, I'm assuming you have other assets to pass onto your son, so this insurance policy is not the only inheritance you would potentially be leaving him?

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Re: Year 17/20 of Term Life Insurance - should I keep it?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2024, 07:02:43 AM »
The question to ask in life insurance situations is, "Who would be financially struggling if I died?"

If there is someone who would be struggling, you should get enough life insurance to take care of them.
If nobody would be struggling, then you don't need life insurance.

In this case, $285 a year is a pretty low premium. If you wanted to keep the policy until the 20-year mark I don't think anyone would argue with you. It's a cheap gamble on your life as you mentioned, but the payoff could be significant.

On the other hand, if you're trying to go full MMM, this is an expense you can justifiably cut.

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Re: Year 17/20 of Term Life Insurance - should I keep it?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2024, 07:15:34 AM »
I'm fairly cautious, so I'd probably keep it until the premium jumps. I'd joke that continuing to pay would just about guarantee that I wouldn't die (like bringing an umbrella means it won't rain).

That being said, we've never paid for term life insurance because we didn't have kids and didn't feel that we really needed it.

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Re: Year 17/20 of Term Life Insurance - should I keep it?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2024, 07:35:03 AM »
One way I try to clarify my thinking on questions like this is to classify everything, and then keep each within its boundaries.  The most obvious version of this is "needs" vs. "wants" (because we're very, very good at telling ourselves that things we want are actually things we need).  But "insurance" vs. "investment" or "inheritance" is another good one.

Why do we buy insurance?  It serves a very specific purpose:  to make sure that people who are dependent on us will be ok if something horrible happens.  So in your case, has the insurance served its purpose?  Would your son be ok financially if you died within the next couple of years?  If so, you do not need it any more, and it is ok to let it go.

Of course, you can still keep it for the rest of the term, while the cost is reasonable.  If you're in a decent financial situation and not needing to watch every penny, it is ok to spend a little money on something like this.  We all have areas in which we choose to spend more than we actually need to, because we value what that extra spending buys us. 

But since you say you're new to this whole way of thinking, it's important to assess things clearly first, rather than just decide that it sounds like a good idea to keep this for your son.  It has to start with acknowledging and really understanding that you don't actually need this any more, because your planning and saving and child-raising worked -- you did it!  You got to where you hoped to be, with financial independence and an adult child who is capable of managing himself. 

That means that keeping the insurance is a "want," not a "need."  Which means, in turn, that you have to balance this particular "want" against all of the other things that you want.  If you decide to keep the insurance, it should be because you have decided that the potential extra inheritance for your son is the best possible use of that $285 -- that it would make you happier to know that your son would have an extra $500K than anything else you could do with that money.

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Re: Year 17/20 of Term Life Insurance - should I keep it?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2024, 12:31:14 PM »
Thank you all for the really great responses.  It was so helpful to hear the different approaches different Mustachians would take.  I really appreciate the time you all took to respond.  I especially want to thank Laura33 - your response really resonated with me and provided a framework for thinking about decisions that will be helpful in a lot of scenarios.  And you provided this with such kindness and clarity. Thank you.

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Re: Year 17/20 of Term Life Insurance - should I keep it?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2024, 04:41:50 PM »
You've got about a 2% chance of dying before age 58 [1]. Spending about $1,000 for a 2% chance at $500,000 seems like a logical choice to me.

After the 20-year level term, definitely drop the insurance.

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Re: Year 17/20 of Term Life Insurance - should I keep it?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2024, 06:56:17 PM »

YttriumNitrate - thanks!  Nice and concise decision making.