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What turns you off about other people?
« on: December 18, 2020, 05:33:57 PM »
What kind of behavior turns you off immediately? Meaning if someone does it, your opinion of them immediately changes for the worse.

- Being rude to waitstaff. I've used this as an easy way to evaluate unsuitable dates and friends.

- When someone walks into the office bathroom, obviously goes into a stall to pee, and then walks out without washing their hands (ew).

- Clipping fingernails in open office plans (ew, ew, EW)

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2020, 06:00:07 PM »
Any behavior that indicates they value their time as substantially more valuable than mine.

Example - office workers that miss meeting when everyone else shows.

Dates that are substantially late. . .

Etc

I avoid people who do this stuff cause it shows selfishness imo.

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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2020, 06:04:19 PM »
Nose picking (I am a nurse. I guess people are so comfortable around me that they feel they can do this. It's happened more than once that I was talking to an adult and they just started picking their nose. One of them ate it.).

I worked in a restaurant when I was younger and several times people blew smoke right at my face while I was trying to take their order. Yuck.

Too much eye contact.

Making a mess in purpose that someone else has to clean up.

Sexual harassment (even the "you should smile more" variety)

Excessive complaining without accepting advice

A whiny tone of voice

Passive aggression

Any sort of clicking noise (nail tapping, pen clicking, especially nail picking).

Noisy phone games and annoying ring tones (turn the sound off, FFS).

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2020, 06:05:56 PM »
What kind of behavior turns you off immediately? Meaning if someone does it, your opinion of them immediately changes for the worse.

- Being rude to waitstaff. I've used this as an easy way to evaluate unsuitable dates and friends.

- When someone walks into the office bathroom, obviously goes into a stall to pee, and then walks out without washing their hands (ew).

- Clipping fingernails in open office plans (ew, ew, EW)

The sound of clipping fingernails drives me absolutely batshit crazy.

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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2020, 06:12:58 PM »
Smoking

Aggressiveness

Fidgeting (the constant foot wiggling, knee bouncing, hair twirling stuff - not an occasional adjustment)

Interrupting or talking over people

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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2020, 06:13:17 PM »
Nose picking (I am a nurse. I guess people are so comfortable around me that they feel they can do this. It's happened more than once that I was talking to an adult and they just started picking their nose. One of them ate it.).

I actually drew my breath in sharply, IRL. Some people.

What kind of behavior turns you off immediately? Meaning if someone does it, your opinion of them immediately changes for the worse.

- Being rude to waitstaff. I've used this as an easy way to evaluate unsuitable dates and friends.

- When someone walks into the office bathroom, obviously goes into a stall to pee, and then walks out without washing their hands (ew).

- Clipping fingernails in open office plans (ew, ew, EW)

The sound of clipping fingernails drives me absolutely batshit crazy.

Imagine the fingernail clippings flying everywhere in an open office space...

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2020, 06:21:29 PM »
People who abuse their significant others. There’s this one guy at work who verbally abuses his SO. I can’t even look him in the eye when I pass by him. Thank goodness he is in a different work group and I don’t have any projects with him.

People who abuse their child or grandchild.


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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2020, 06:32:09 PM »
All the above, plus bigotry, racism, or close-mindedness.    Or "drama queens", regardless of gender.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2020, 06:32:20 PM »
When people say they want to do something. And then never take steps to do that thing. The most I run across is the people who say they want to drop weight then the next breath they are at some fast food joint, or ordering some sugar bomb coffee.

I will drop everything for anyone who says...can you go for a walk with me. Will you help me learn how to eat healthy. But the second they are not walking the walk I am done. I am not saying they need to be 100% but 80-90% is what I expect.

I do what I say. Words matter. I expect that of the other in my life.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2020, 06:39:06 PM »
Smoking

Aggressiveness

Fidgeting (the constant foot wiggling, knee bouncing, hair twirling stuff - not an occasional adjustment)

Interrupting or talking over people

I accidentally interrupt or talk over people all the time, especially on the phone. I notice it a second too late and then apologize. Apologizing is almost like a tic for me these days. My kid has autism and I'm pretty sure I have a mild case too.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2020, 06:41:52 PM »
I can get along with literally almost anyone. Aggressive assholes are my specialty, actually, that and miserable teenagers who hate everyone.

Actually, miserable people in general, I find quite easy to get on with. They're not accustom to their feelings being validated.

What turns me off of people as possible friends or romantic partners?
Uh...most things. I've quite selective about who I share my personal life with.

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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2020, 07:01:11 PM »
Smoking

Aggressiveness

Fidgeting (the constant foot wiggling, knee bouncing, hair twirling stuff - not an occasional adjustment)

Interrupting or talking over people

I accidentally interrupt or talk over people all the time, especially on the phone. I notice it a second too late and then apologize. Apologizing is almost like a tic for me these days. My kid has autism and I'm pretty sure I have a mild case too.

Cell phones seem to have a weird delay. But phones are trickier because you don’t get any visual cues. 

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2020, 07:25:00 PM »
People who clearly think more highly of themselves than they reasonably ought to.

People who are unkind, especially when it's based on a power dynamic.  Basically the waitstaff thing, but there are plenty more scenarios where it plays out.

People who are not thoughtful with their finances.  You don't have to earn a lot of money or be perfectly organized or strategic or know the entire IRS code.  But if you have no clue and no plan, then I probably won't respect you.

People who are emotionally immature.  This covers a multitude of bullet points, but a few key ones are "responds with measured grace when things don't go their way" and "able to discuss disagreements in a reasonable fashion".

People who are uninteresting conversationalists.  One- or two-trick ponies, where if we're not talking about your sports team or your dog then you are lost.

If you are kind, humble, pay attention to your finances, emotionally mature, and can carry on conversations on a variety of topics, then I'll probably like you.  Possibly a lot.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2020, 08:33:06 PM »
If you are kind, humble, pay attention to your finances, emotionally mature, and can carry on conversations on a variety of topics, then I'll probably like you.  Possibly a lot.

Humility in particular is underrated. My respect for a person increases immeasurably when they say, "I was wrong. Thank you for correcting me."
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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2020, 10:46:11 AM »
People who believe they have achieved gravity - meaning they believe everything revolves around them.

Example - today the gyms re-opened in my state after a 30 day shut down.  We are required to wear a mask at all times.  Yeah, I do not like it either - some exercises are much harder to do with a mask.  But, it is the state requirement - so I did it.

There were a couple of idiots with masks sitting below their chins (achieving absolutely nothing) - laughing at the sign at the gym entrance asking people to wear a mask at all times. 

I am all for individual liberty - but when your dumb ass behavior has a negative impact on me - you are just a jerk.  If the gym gets shuts down by the state because members were not following rules - all members suffer.

BTW - this is one of those 24/7 gyms that rarely has staff on site.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2020, 01:48:22 PM »
People who think they are better than others.
Hypocrites.
People who have different accountability measures depend on whether they like the person or not - I'm an "even-steven" kinda person.
People who want to own and control other people and push their opinions/life style on them. You do you and I do me, freedom of choice and thought is a beautiful thing.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2020, 04:54:34 PM »
A few come to mind, some of which people might find controversial or objectionable.

Saying anything dumb about vegans/veganism. Trust me, I've heard your "clever, original" joke 50 million times over the last 20+ years, just go die in a fire already.

My tolerance for flakiness is really low. If someone flakes with no reason given, I'll never invite them to anything ever again. Otherwise, flaking once with a very good reason is okay, flaking more than once for any reason means no more invites from me. If someone flakes after they've invited me to something, I'm also done.

People who can't get their shit together, like the failure-at-life types. Like, if I find out someone really struggles with just normal day to day stuff, I can't possibly respect them at all. Examples: routine lateness, living in filth, self-inflicted financial trainwrecks, addictions, getting fired from jobs for dumb shit, living with parents in adulthood because they can't handle living alone (as opposed to a good reason, like taking care of parents, etc).

Emotional people, particularly people who make bad decisions based on emotions. INTJ master race, woot.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2020, 05:32:17 PM »
Any behavior that indicates they value their time as substantially more valuable than mine.

Example - office workers that miss meeting when everyone else shows.

Dates that are substantially late. . .

Etc

I avoid people who do this stuff cause it shows selfishness imo.

Hah, this one’s interesting for me. I frequently will opt-out of meetings because I trust the people in the meeting to figure things out without my unnecessary opinions. And conversely, I get a little annoyed when others opt-in to all optional meetings, thinking their voice needs to be heard any time a decision is made. In general, I feel like meetings with more than like ~4 people get unwieldy fast. So I try to do my part to not contribute to chaos. Now I wonder if people think I’m being a jerk for it 😂

Some other pet peeves of mine:
- Vocal fry
- Loud chewing / mouth noises

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2020, 07:10:46 PM »

Emotional people, particularly people who make bad decisions based on emotions. INTJ master race, woot.

This one's always annoyed me. Like I literally am incapable of putting myself on their shoes thought process wise, I don't think I've ever had an emotional based decision. Can't comprehend it. 

Unfortunately as a man seeking to date women - it seems the tables lean towards the emotional decision realm more so than not. 

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2020, 07:51:11 PM »

Emotional people, particularly people who make bad decisions based on emotions. INTJ master race, woot.

This one's always annoyed me. Like I literally am incapable of putting myself on their shoes thought process wise, I don't think I've ever had an emotional based decision. Can't comprehend it. 

Unfortunately as a man seeking to date women - it seems the tables lean towards the emotional decision realm more so than not.

I'm rather confused by this sentiment.

There is no such thing as a non emotional decision. All decisions are emotional, because the framework within which decisions are made are entirely emotional.

Meaning, you act rationally to accomplish something you set out to do, but you set out to do it for emotional reasons.

All decisions are motivated by a desire for something positive or a fear of something negative, but what defined positive and negative is your emotional reactions to them.

The desire to move on from a miserable job to an enjoyable job is rational, but it's entirely based on emotions. Financial security is rational, but it's based on an emotional drive to avoid the negatives of too little money and they positives of feeling safe and secure that you will be able to sustain your standard of living.

Things that are widely regarded as "rational" are regarded that way because most people share a similar emotional reaction to them. Being abused by a horrible boss is almost universally humiliating (emotion), so it's almost universally seen as rational to try and leave.

In certain contexts though it's a rite of passage. Withstanding the abuse becomes a point of pride (emotion) to be shared as an intense bond among peers (emotion), and contribute to being able to move forward to the next step of a dream career (emotions determined what career would be considered a dream).

These are all decisions based on emotions, and people who are more in tune with their emotions actually tend to make better decisions.

Now, if what you mean is that you can't stand people who make *bad* decisions based on self destructive and reactive emotions, that's a whole other issue. It's not *that* they are deciding based on emotions, it's the state of their emotional stability that's the problem.

These actually tend to be the people who are less in tune with their emotions. They rarely understand their own feelings, which can be so volatile so as to not be very easy to process in terms of making decisions.

Not enjoying the company of emotionally volatile, self destructive people is rational, because the experience of being around them if you aren't one is stressful (oh look! Also an emotion!)

So the very deciaion to not want to be around these types of people is, fundamentally, based on emotions is it not?

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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2020, 07:54:51 PM »
Whiners.

People who have a problem, are offered to be part of the solution, and choose not to be.

Willfully ignorant and close-minded people.

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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2020, 04:49:24 PM »
Whiners.

People who have a problem, are offered to be part of the solution, and choose not to be.

Yes! Can’t stand people who complain and say something should change, but then don’t do anything to try to change the situation and whenever you offer a solution, they tell you why it won’t work.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2020, 05:02:21 PM »

Emotional people, particularly people who make bad decisions based on emotions. INTJ master race, woot.

This one's always annoyed me. Like I literally am incapable of putting myself on their shoes thought process wise, I don't think I've ever had an emotional based decision. Can't comprehend it. 

Unfortunately as a man seeking to date women - it seems the tables lean towards the emotional decision realm more so than not.

I'm rather confused by this sentiment.

There is no such thing as a non emotional decision. All decisions are emotional, because the framework within which decisions are made are entirely emotional.

Meaning, you act rationally to accomplish something you set out to do, but you set out to do it for emotional reasons.

All decisions are motivated by a desire for something positive or a fear of something negative, but what defined positive and negative is your emotional reactions to them.

The desire to move on from a miserable job to an enjoyable job is rational, but it's entirely based on emotions. Financial security is rational, but it's based on an emotional drive to avoid the negatives of too little money and they positives of feeling safe and secure that you will be able to sustain your standard of living.

Things that are widely regarded as "rational" are regarded that way because most people share a similar emotional reaction to them. Being abused by a horrible boss is almost universally humiliating (emotion), so it's almost universally seen as rational to try and leave.

In certain contexts though it's a rite of passage. Withstanding the abuse becomes a point of pride (emotion) to be shared as an intense bond among peers (emotion), and contribute to being able to move forward to the next step of a dream career (emotions determined what career would be considered a dream).

These are all decisions based on emotions, and people who are more in tune with their emotions actually tend to make better decisions.

Now, if what you mean is that you can't stand people who make *bad* decisions based on self destructive and reactive emotions, that's a whole other issue. It's not *that* they are deciding based on emotions, it's the state of their emotional stability that's the problem.

These actually tend to be the people who are less in tune with their emotions. They rarely understand their own feelings, which can be so volatile so as to not be very easy to process in terms of making decisions.

Not enjoying the company of emotionally volatile, self destructive people is rational, because the experience of being around them if you aren't one is stressful (oh look! Also an emotion!)

So the very deciaion to not want to be around these types of people is, fundamentally, based on emotions is it not?

Maybe "emotionally fragile" would be a better term for the type of people we're talking about. People who cry/break down constantly over dumb shit, people who get super angry over dumb shit and punch a hole in a wall, people who can't have a rational discussion about even mundane things because everything is about feelings for them. And probably the worst of them would be people who assign emotions to other people (because they're "intuitive"), and then you have to deal not only with their emotions, but their reaction to the fake emotions they projected onto you. Life is so much easier without those people in it.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2020, 05:13:13 PM »

Emotional people, particularly people who make bad decisions based on emotions. INTJ master race, woot.

This one's always annoyed me. Like I literally am incapable of putting myself on their shoes thought process wise, I don't think I've ever had an emotional based decision. Can't comprehend it. 

Unfortunately as a man seeking to date women - it seems the tables lean towards the emotional decision realm more so than not.

I'm rather confused by this sentiment.

There is no such thing as a non emotional decision. All decisions are emotional, because the framework within which decisions are made are entirely emotional.

Meaning, you act rationally to accomplish something you set out to do, but you set out to do it for emotional reasons.

All decisions are motivated by a desire for something positive or a fear of something negative, but what defined positive and negative is your emotional reactions to them.

The desire to move on from a miserable job to an enjoyable job is rational, but it's entirely based on emotions. Financial security is rational, but it's based on an emotional drive to avoid the negatives of too little money and they positives of feeling safe and secure that you will be able to sustain your standard of living.

Things that are widely regarded as "rational" are regarded that way because most people share a similar emotional reaction to them. Being abused by a horrible boss is almost universally humiliating (emotion), so it's almost universally seen as rational to try and leave.

In certain contexts though it's a rite of passage. Withstanding the abuse becomes a point of pride (emotion) to be shared as an intense bond among peers (emotion), and contribute to being able to move forward to the next step of a dream career (emotions determined what career would be considered a dream).

These are all decisions based on emotions, and people who are more in tune with their emotions actually tend to make better decisions.

Now, if what you mean is that you can't stand people who make *bad* decisions based on self destructive and reactive emotions, that's a whole other issue. It's not *that* they are deciding based on emotions, it's the state of their emotional stability that's the problem.

These actually tend to be the people who are less in tune with their emotions. They rarely understand their own feelings, which can be so volatile so as to not be very easy to process in terms of making decisions.

Not enjoying the company of emotionally volatile, self destructive people is rational, because the experience of being around them if you aren't one is stressful (oh look! Also an emotion!)

So the very deciaion to not want to be around these types of people is, fundamentally, based on emotions is it not?

Maybe "emotionally fragile" would be a better term for the type of people we're talking about. People who cry/break down constantly over dumb shit, people who get super angry over dumb shit and punch a hole in a wall, people who can't have a rational discussion about even mundane things because everything is about feelings for them. And probably the worst of them would be people who assign emotions to other people (because they're "intuitive"), and then you have to deal not only with their emotions, but their reaction to the fake emotions they projected onto you. Life is so much easier without those people in it.

Yeah, that's not being emotional, that's being highly reactive, and likely frankly mentally unhealthy.

It can be very destabilizing to deal with mentally unhealthy people if you aren't equipped or prepared to handle them.

The thing with those people is that, *to them*, their reactions feel proportional. In the moment, the sense of what is reasonable is distorted.

They're not necessarily more emotional, but they are far more easily overwhelmed by their emotions and have far less robust barriers between their impulses and their behaviours.

It's the same way drunk people are far more reactive, their sense of reality and barriers are impaired.
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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2020, 05:33:41 PM »
At the moment, I am turned off by people who voted for Trump the second time.

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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2020, 05:45:19 PM »
^Me too. Voting for that guy the second time shows unforgivable bigotry, selfishness, or intellectual laziness (or all three).

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« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2020, 05:22:39 AM »
People who define themselves as "empaths."  They seem to think they feel things more deeply than the rest of us; they apparently have special feeling abilities.  I find them to just be more self-absorbed (which is almost the opposite of empathetic).

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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2020, 05:44:44 AM »
People who define themselves as "empaths."  They seem to think they feel things more deeply than the rest of us; they apparently have special feeling abilities.  I find them to just be more self-absorbed (which is almost the opposite of empathetic).

A lot of times these people get the definition of empathy wrong. True empathy is the ability to set aside your own feelings and say/do things that will actually help the person. Sympathy is feeling what they feel, empathy is acknowledging what they feel and then actually doing something constructive. A good analogy is throwing a rope to a drowning person vs jumping in the water with them.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2020, 06:06:20 AM »
I agree with much of what was posted above.  People who are really loud and boisterous exhaust me and I wonder why they require so much attention and validation from others.  I really dislike people who live a life of victimhood.  Nothing is ever their fault.  I don't expect people to be perfect or never make mistakes, but own it already.  I particularly dislike it when they write off other people's successes as "luck".

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« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2020, 06:07:41 AM »
Acting passive-aggressive.  Just say what needs to be said - it might initially sting but it's sure better than indirect sniping.

And I second the poster who cited emotional immaturity.  There's an amazing amount of kids out there in adult bodies.  I don't know what the solution is on that one because some people literally never grow up.

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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2020, 06:08:06 AM »
People who define themselves as "empaths."  They seem to think they feel things more deeply than the rest of us; they apparently have special feeling abilities.  I find them to just be more self-absorbed (which is almost the opposite of empathetic).

Lol, yes, "empath" often gets co-opted by sensitive people who are just incredibly uncomfortable in the outward expression of other's feelings, because they heard that empaths get overwhelmed by the feelings of others. That is absolutely the opposite of being empathetic.

Emotions are telegraphed quite unsubtly by body movements and facial muscles, and some people are hyper attuned to these and can tell what people are feeling. Some people are on top of this extremely good at micro-mimicking these postures and expressions, and can therefore recreate the other person's emotional state in themselves, making them deeply empathetic.

An "empath" though might get extremely fatigued by this, but is less likely to bothered by overt expressions of emotions by others, like crying or hostility, because they felt it coming a mile away, so it's more of a relief. The fake "empaths" can't handle outward emotions because they're so caught off guard by them and don't understand, so it's overwhelming.

I can tell an empath from a mile away because I'm an overtly extremely positive energy person, but I'm often in a lot of pain. Most people are shocked to find out I'm at all sick, but the empaths can tell right away and aren't confused by it.
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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2020, 06:15:03 AM »
People who define themselves as "empaths."  They seem to think they feel things more deeply than the rest of us; they apparently have special feeling abilities.  I find them to just be more self-absorbed (which is almost the opposite of empathetic).

A lot of times these people get the definition of empathy wrong. True empathy is the ability to set aside your own feelings and say/do things that will actually help the person. Sympathy is feeling what they feel, empathy is acknowledging what they feel and then actually doing something constructive. A good analogy is throwing a rope to a drowning person vs jumping in the water with them.

I don't necessarily agree with this. Empathy can in some people lead to cruelty because it's so easy for them to know exactly how to hurt people.

Empathy, combined with a good intention, will make someone behave more generously towards others, but if they don't have a good intention for whatever reason, it can be quite nasty.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2020, 11:15:48 AM »

Emotional people, particularly people who make bad decisions based on emotions. INTJ master race, woot.

This one's always annoyed me. Like I literally am incapable of putting myself on their shoes thought process wise, I don't think I've ever had an emotional based decision. Can't comprehend it. 

Unfortunately as a man seeking to date women - it seems the tables lean towards the emotional decision realm more so than not.

I'm rather confused by this sentiment.

There is no such thing as a non emotional decision. All decisions are emotional, because the framework within which decisions are made are entirely emotional.

Meaning, you act rationally to accomplish something you set out to do, but you set out to do it for emotional reasons.

All decisions are motivated by a desire for something positive or a fear of something negative, but what defined positive and negative is your emotional reactions to them.

The desire to move on from a miserable job to an enjoyable job is rational, but it's entirely based on emotions. Financial security is rational, but it's based on an emotional drive to avoid the negatives of too little money and they positives of feeling safe and secure that you will be able to sustain your standard of living.

Things that are widely regarded as "rational" are regarded that way because most people share a similar emotional reaction to them. Being abused by a horrible boss is almost universally humiliating (emotion), so it's almost universally seen as rational to try and leave.

In certain contexts though it's a rite of passage. Withstanding the abuse becomes a point of pride (emotion) to be shared as an intense bond among peers (emotion), and contribute to being able to move forward to the next step of a dream career (emotions determined what career would be considered a dream).

These are all decisions based on emotions, and people who are more in tune with their emotions actually tend to make better decisions.

Now, if what you mean is that you can't stand people who make *bad* decisions based on self destructive and reactive emotions, that's a whole other issue. It's not *that* they are deciding based on emotions, it's the state of their emotional stability that's the problem.

These actually tend to be the people who are less in tune with their emotions. They rarely understand their own feelings, which can be so volatile so as to not be very easy to process in terms of making decisions.

Not enjoying the company of emotionally volatile, self destructive people is rational, because the experience of being around them if you aren't one is stressful (oh look! Also an emotion!)

So the very deciaion to not want to be around these types of people is, fundamentally, based on emotions is it not?

My guess is that Kroaler means people who can't put emotions aside to make a rational decision.  You are right that many decisions have emotions at the root but it's still possible to make rational decisions to reach the emotional goal.  Some people make nearly all decisions based on short term emotion rather than looking at long term consequences and making the rational decision to reach the long term goals.   The ability to pursue delayed gratification is a challenge for many people. 

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2020, 11:33:04 AM »
People who define themselves as "empaths."  They seem to think they feel things more deeply than the rest of us; they apparently have special feeling abilities.  I find them to just be more self-absorbed (which is almost the opposite of empathetic).

Ugh, they are the WORST for deciding you feel a certain way regardless of how you actually feel. I'm kind of a weirdo in that I tend to sort of be... "read wrong"? People tend to get the impression I think and feel things I don't, and also apparently hint/subtly indicate things a lot, which I also don't. Then people respond to the subtleties as if they were real, reasonably, and I'm like "Wait, what? I don't want that", and they get really confused. I basically have to tell anyone I meet to just avoid trying to read me at all, that's I'm never subtle and anything they think I'm hinting at I am definitely not. But a certain subset of people just refuses to accept that.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2020, 11:58:52 AM »
Crooked glasses bother the hell out of me.  Like, to the point that I have trouble looking at the person.

I once worked with a guy who had the left lens almost an inch lower than the right lens in his glasses (how he could see anything is beyond me) and eventually offered to adjust his glasses for him because it bothered me so much.  Offer was declined.  :P

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2020, 02:10:49 PM »
People who use their children as an excuse for why they can't fulfill their obligations or why others should go out of their way to bend schedules, take on more than their shares of any task at hand, and generally shoulder all burdens so that selfish parents can continue selfishing.  Your kids are your problem - figure out how to manage them without any impact on others, or don't have any in the first place.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2020, 02:35:01 PM »
Crooked glasses bother the hell out of me.  Like, to the point that I have trouble looking at the person.

I once worked with a guy who had the left lens almost an inch lower than the right lens in his glasses (how he could see anything is beyond me) and eventually offered to adjust his glasses for him because it bothered me so much.  Offer was declined.  :P

Same, I'm always adjusting people's glasses.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2020, 11:58:39 PM »
People who use their children as an excuse for why they can't fulfill their obligations or why others should go out of their way to bend schedules, take on more than their shares of any task at hand, and generally shoulder all burdens so that selfish parents can continue selfishing.  Your kids are your problem - figure out how to manage them without any impact on others, or don't have any in the first place.

^^ I wish there was a like button... Well said!  This particularly seems to apply in my line of work involving shift work and rosters.  I totally get that you want to spend Christmas Day with your kids, but when I've worked the last 3 Christmas Day's it does not mean I should have to work this Christmas Day just because I don't have kids.  It's akin to reverse-discrimination.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2020, 06:54:28 AM »
People who use their children as an excuse for why they can't fulfill their obligations or why others should go out of their way to bend schedules, take on more than their shares of any task at hand, and generally shoulder all burdens so that selfish parents can continue selfishing.  Your kids are your problem - figure out how to manage them without any impact on others, or don't have any in the first place.

^^ I wish there was a like button... Well said!  This particularly seems to apply in my line of work involving shift work and rosters.  I totally get that you want to spend Christmas Day with your kids, but when I've worked the last 3 Christmas Day's it does not mean I should have to work this Christmas Day just because I don't have kids.  It's akin to reverse-discrimination.

Another wish for a "like button".  Totally agree.  Often people use their kids as a "get out of jail free" card. ...and if I were to ever say anything - well, that just makes me the most awful person ever. 

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2020, 07:19:21 AM »
People who use their children as an excuse for why they can't fulfill their obligations or why others should go out of their way to bend schedules, take on more than their shares of any task at hand, and generally shoulder all burdens so that selfish parents can continue selfishing.  Your kids are your problem - figure out how to manage them without any impact on others, or don't have any in the first place.

^^ I wish there was a like button... Well said!  This particularly seems to apply in my line of work involving shift work and rosters.  I totally get that you want to spend Christmas Day with your kids, but when I've worked the last 3 Christmas Day's it does not mean I should have to work this Christmas Day just because I don't have kids.  It's akin to reverse-discrimination.

As a guy in my 20s in 24/7 coverage job, I always volunteered for the Christmas or Christmas Eve shift so others could spend time with kids.

However the pay was 3x on any holiday so it wasn't truly selfless.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2020, 01:49:39 PM »
I was the 20-something kid who didn’t know why people had such angst about kids, and then I got married and we had kids. Now I get it, and frankly I’m a little irritated by people who are irritated by it. That said, my mother had to work holidays every few years when I was growing up. We adjusted. Opened Christmas presents a day early or late, or just spent Thanksgiving with dad and the rest of the extended family while mom was working. Kids shouldn’t be a get out of jail free card, but it’s also important to give the parents some grace, especially when their kids are under six years old.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2020, 02:23:44 PM »
Not a lot of compassion in this thread is there?

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2020, 02:25:20 PM »
Did you see the title of this thread?  It doesn't exactly lend itself easily to compassion.  ;)

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2020, 04:10:23 PM »
Crooked glasses bother the hell out of me.  Like, to the point that I have trouble looking at the person.

I once worked with a guy who had the left lens almost an inch lower than the right lens in his glasses (how he could see anything is beyond me) and eventually offered to adjust his glasses for him because it bothered me so much.  Offer was declined.  :P

Same, I'm always adjusting people's glasses.

My glasses are rarely perfectly straight. Now I'm wondering if I'm being judged by everyone I see. Thanks a lot GuitarStv and Malcat!!

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2020, 04:13:17 PM »
Crooked glasses bother the hell out of me.  Like, to the point that I have trouble looking at the person.

I once worked with a guy who had the left lens almost an inch lower than the right lens in his glasses (how he could see anything is beyond me) and eventually offered to adjust his glasses for him because it bothered me so much.  Offer was declined.  :P

Same, I'm always adjusting people's glasses.

My glasses are rarely perfectly straight. Now I'm wondering if I'm being judged by everyone I see. Thanks a lot GuitarStv and Malcat!!

Just fix them already you monster!

:P

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2020, 04:15:09 PM »
Crooked glasses bother the hell out of me.  Like, to the point that I have trouble looking at the person.

I once worked with a guy who had the left lens almost an inch lower than the right lens in his glasses (how he could see anything is beyond me) and eventually offered to adjust his glasses for him because it bothered me so much.  Offer was declined.  :P

Same, I'm always adjusting people's glasses.

My glasses are rarely perfectly straight. Now I'm wondering if I'm being judged by everyone I see. Thanks a lot GuitarStv and Malcat!!

Just fix them already you monster!

:P

I just went to the bathroom and spent like 3 minutes trying to fix them and just made them worse :'(

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2020, 04:28:29 PM »
Crooked glasses bother the hell out of me.  Like, to the point that I have trouble looking at the person.

I once worked with a guy who had the left lens almost an inch lower than the right lens in his glasses (how he could see anything is beyond me) and eventually offered to adjust his glasses for him because it bothered me so much.  Offer was declined.  :P

Same, I'm always adjusting people's glasses.

My glasses are rarely perfectly straight. Now I'm wondering if I'm being judged by everyone I see. Thanks a lot GuitarStv and Malcat!!

Just fix them already you monster!

:P

I just went to the bathroom and spent like 3 minutes trying to fix them and just made them worse :'(

Don't worry. I won't judge you, I'll just fix your glasses for you.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2020, 04:30:29 PM »
Crooked glasses bother the hell out of me.  Like, to the point that I have trouble looking at the person.

I once worked with a guy who had the left lens almost an inch lower than the right lens in his glasses (how he could see anything is beyond me) and eventually offered to adjust his glasses for him because it bothered me so much.  Offer was declined.  :P

Same, I'm always adjusting people's glasses.

My glasses are rarely perfectly straight. Now I'm wondering if I'm being judged by everyone I see. Thanks a lot GuitarStv and Malcat!!

Just fix them already you monster!

:P

I just went to the bathroom and spent like 3 minutes trying to fix them and just made them worse :'(

Don't worry. I won't judge you, I'll just fix your glasses for you.

That does make me feel better.

I will now be on the look out for a glasses fixing super hero in real life.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2020, 04:31:59 PM »
Crooked glasses bother the hell out of me.  Like, to the point that I have trouble looking at the person.

I once worked with a guy who had the left lens almost an inch lower than the right lens in his glasses (how he could see anything is beyond me) and eventually offered to adjust his glasses for him because it bothered me so much.  Offer was declined.  :P

Same, I'm always adjusting people's glasses.

My glasses are rarely perfectly straight. Now I'm wondering if I'm being judged by everyone I see. Thanks a lot GuitarStv and Malcat!!

Just fix them already you monster!

:P

I just went to the bathroom and spent like 3 minutes trying to fix them and just made them worse :'(

Don't worry. I won't judge you, I'll just fix your glasses for you.
My husband would regularly steal my glasses off my face to clean them. It drove him batty how dirty they would get. Fortunately for him I spent a number of years wearing contacts so now I keep my glasses immaculate, lol.

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Re: What turns you off about other people?
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2020, 05:37:54 PM »

Emotional people, particularly people who make bad decisions based on emotions. INTJ master race, woot.

This one's always annoyed me. Like I literally am incapable of putting myself on their shoes thought process wise, I don't think I've ever had an emotional based decision. Can't comprehend it. 

Unfortunately as a man seeking to date women - it seems the tables lean towards the emotional decision realm more so than not.

Given that you mention dating, isn't that basically an emotional decision?  Or do you simply evaluate a woman's fertility and/or earning potential, or perhaps how well she cooks and cleans (depending on what you value) and then date based only on that?

What did you eat for dinner?  Unless it was the cheapest per calorie food and perhaps a vitamin, wasn't that an emotional decision?

What color is your shirt?  Why did you purchase that color?

Do you ever call your mom another relative to talk to them about your life or theirs? 


 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!