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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1500 on: October 02, 2019, 03:06:10 PM »
Just ordered several more pairs of Thinx.  When they arrive, I'll be able to switch entirely to reusable period products, instead of using pads as backup to my cup.  I ordered everything I think I'll need in one go to save on shipping materials (and $).  I'll donate the rest of my supply of single-use products to a women's shelter in my city.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1501 on: October 02, 2019, 03:39:49 PM »
I snuck around my office last week and raised the thermostats from 68F to 72F. I'm still wearing my jacket, but at least I've eliminated the possibility of frostbite.... (Plus I bike or ride the bus to the office most days of the week.)

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« Reply #1502 on: October 09, 2019, 09:40:08 PM »
I just read that above post and cringed because my apartment is currently being overheated to 72F (I don't control my own heat) and it seemed like such a terrible thing to do! But I guess you were talking about air conditioning... :-)  I wish I had a better tolerance for warm indoor temps, I find 72 very stuffy and unpleasant. I don't even start putting clothes on at home until it's down to 68 or so. (Reason #1,928 why I don't have a roommate...)

Win of the day: I hung on to that silicone zip-top bag that had a little hole in it for ages, hoping I could come up with some use for it... and today I realized it makes a perfect grippy thing for opening stuck jar lids. I was just about giving myself a stroke trying to open a factory-sealed screw-top lid and then I thought of that, tried it and it opened instantly. Score! I think if I cut it up I could make two or three of them.

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« Reply #1503 on: October 09, 2019, 09:50:00 PM »
I work as a school teacher.  I did "yard duty" today - actually patrolling a classroom building and kicking the students out into the yard.  I spent the first 10 minutes walking into each room and turning off the heaters that were often set to 30 degrees C, and turning off the lights. 

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1504 on: November 19, 2019, 08:34:09 PM »
Dragged my kids on a nature walk and picked up a bag of trash while we were there.

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« Reply #1505 on: November 19, 2019, 09:28:18 PM »
Dragged my kids on a nature walk and picked up a bag of trash while we were there.

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I got sick last week right after a big grocery shop but managed to cook up everything and not waste all the perishable ingredients. In a previous life I might have said "fuck it" and ordered out for a couple of meals when I was sick instead of cooking. Instead I roasted a chicken and used it for chicken caesar salad, chicken fajitas, and chicken soup, plus I put a container of stock in the freezer for the next time I am sick and need soup.

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« Reply #1506 on: November 20, 2019, 10:17:29 AM »
This isn't my win, but DH's. He's been a committed meat eater forever. After many years of me, and then ODD, gently nudging him to just try to eat a little less meat last weekend he announced he'd eaten vegetarian for an entire day.

Last week I went to take the garbage can out to the curb only to discover it was empty. That won't happen every week, but I was actually kind of shocked that it happened at all.

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« Reply #1507 on: November 21, 2019, 06:48:39 PM »
Subbed in Beyond Beef this week for taco night and the kids thought it was better than the usual mix (ground turkey supplemented w/ very finely diced mushrooms).

it was pretty good- but also pretty pricey.

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« Reply #1508 on: November 21, 2019, 06:52:43 PM »
My old water heater died.  Had it replaced with a new tankless water heater.  Now water only gets heated as I use it, and there's not 40 gallons sitting around in need of constant heating 24/7 like with the old system. 

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« Reply #1509 on: November 22, 2019, 05:05:03 PM »
Walked my kids to school in the snow. Saves a tiny bit of gas and hopefully makes that their normal in life.

I did drive to work, BUT I always drive to work if I am going to the gym, and I cleverly took a too-snowy-to-bike day and made it my gym day, killing two birds with one stone.

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« Reply #1510 on: November 22, 2019, 06:35:47 PM »
Picked up some bottles and cans and other trash while walking yesterday, while visiting a natural area today and on a secluded area of our street. I love detrashing!

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« Reply #1511 on: November 22, 2019, 08:53:55 PM »
Caught the train to the shops rather than drove. 

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« Reply #1512 on: November 23, 2019, 10:25:51 AM »
Walked to the hardware store instead of driving.

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« Reply #1513 on: November 25, 2019, 12:32:38 PM »
Biked with my oldest to her orthodontist appointment last week.

Biked to the gym and then for groceries this weekend. I'm on track to bike 3700km this year. According to this calculator, I've apparently saved 0.8 metric tons of CO2 from the atmosphere.

https://calculator.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx?tab=4

Apparently my usual grocery store already has Flashfood. I've been wondering what the funny shelf at the exit was about. I thought it was some kind of quick serve option, but was confused about the odd selection of available items.

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« Reply #1514 on: November 29, 2019, 04:45:03 PM »
I had made a green bean casserole for Thanksgiving even though I am the only one who likes it who was present. (We love it in my family of origin, but my husband and kids, not so much.)

So there was a ton left and I knew I couldn't eat it all myself. Brought it to work, left a note on the fridge (written on scratch paper, of course) and it is all gone! Food waste avoided! (I work with a bunch of underpaid 20 somethings who are basically trash compactors.)

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1515 on: November 30, 2019, 01:37:11 AM »
We've been enjoying the Thanksgiving holiday by staying home.  By Sunday I will not have gone anywhere for 5 days straight.   

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« Reply #1516 on: December 05, 2019, 05:54:14 PM »
I got new windows installed in my condo and they are making a huge difference already in the coziness department.  Will be using my HVAC much, much less.  I have also been using up random small toiletries and recycling the bottles as I go.  I really need to quit buying some of this shite.  So much packaging! 

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« Reply #1517 on: December 05, 2019, 06:13:22 PM »
I brought a bag for my bulk bin snacks.

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« Reply #1518 on: December 05, 2019, 07:26:32 PM »
Went to take the garbage to the curb this morning only to discover the bin was empty. 2nd time this has happened. It's frankly a little weird since it doesn't feel like we've changed much about how we live.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1519 on: December 07, 2019, 11:04:14 AM »
@TrMama - bravo you.

Yesterday I took the train to my meeting and this morning I walked to the market.

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« Reply #1520 on: December 08, 2019, 06:53:28 AM »
We greatly reduced meat consumption for the holidays for my family. It used to be a big meat fest with lots of beef/pork. Now there were only one fish and one meat option as main dishes. I guess the environmental impact of the meal must've been reduced by at least 75% if not more and everyone was completely content with the options offered.

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« Reply #1521 on: December 08, 2019, 01:57:40 PM »
I picked up corporate leftovers to bring to a potluck.

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« Reply #1522 on: December 08, 2019, 02:10:46 PM »
Biked to work and rescued some recyclables from the trash can. Also, I have successfully trained my husband to drain bacon on cut-up flour bags that I save for this purpose instead of paper towels.

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« Reply #1523 on: December 08, 2019, 06:17:53 PM »
Rode my bike to the gym rather than driving. 8 miles round trip.

Question for all. CFLs versus LED bulbs. Worth swapping them out?

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« Reply #1524 on: December 08, 2019, 08:13:55 PM »
Rode my bike to the gym rather than driving. 8 miles round trip.

Question for all. CFLs versus LED bulbs. Worth swapping them out?

I just swapped out our CFLs as they died and needed to be replaced. Just make sure you get LEDs bulbs for each fixture that you'll be happy with. Those suckers last up to 20 years, so you'll have each one for a loooong time.

We've had all LEDs for a number of years now. I had a bulb die last year and my kids had no idea why the light wouldn't work or how to fix it. They were 10 and 12 at the time. It was an odd sign of the times. Pretty sure I'd changed tons of bulbs by the time I was 12.

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« Reply #1525 on: December 09, 2019, 02:46:08 PM »
Brought my Contigo mug to the Target Starbucks. Bonus: They give you a lot more that way and it stays so hot.

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« Reply #1526 on: December 09, 2019, 03:14:25 PM »
Did all yard work with manual tools; more energy from me, less energy from non-renewable fossil fuels.

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« Reply #1527 on: December 09, 2019, 07:42:59 PM »


Or maybe not.  I had a light flickering like an old school incandescent ;).  It suddenly died like one too.  And this at about 16 months.  If you see on the package they last 13 years.  Nope!

I'd still do exactly what you recommended though.  I love the LEDs.

I love LEDs too. LEDs pointing downwards can be susceptible to premature death due to overheating though if the pot has no hole at the top.

Question for all. CFLs versus LED bulbs. Worth swapping them out?

The math still says yes in most cases, but more than any other bulb type, make sure that CFLs are recycled properly. IKEA takes them back (even if not bought there) among other places.

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« Reply #1528 on: December 09, 2019, 08:45:25 PM »
-- Made vegan jambalya for dinner and lunch leftovers
-- lost my reusable water bottle :( but found a giveaway one that DH got at a conference and am using it instead of buying another one
-- Decorated the tree with vintage ornaments collected over the years.  The tree was still kind of bare, so I sliced and dried a bag of oranges -- compostable Christmas decor that doesn't need storing later!
-- DH is starting a new job that will require him to go into the office rather than worling from home.  He will be able to take the bus though, and it may help reduce electricity usage (sort of?  I guess the lights will be on and running at the shared open office whether he is there or not, right?)

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« Reply #1529 on: December 13, 2019, 07:10:23 AM »
Used chinese food containers to store corporate leftovers from a Monday lunch meeting for lunch the rest of the week!  Much less food waste, plus meals for me!

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« Reply #1530 on: December 13, 2019, 09:52:34 AM »
Fixed my work headphones with coffee stir sticks and duct tape instead of buying a new set. I'd managed to snap the plastic over the ear part when I was adjusting them.

Wrapped presents using a combination of plain brown paper bags and wrapping paper I found for free on the side of the road last summer.

Also fixed my bike after snapping the rear axle this week. That was an easy fix though since I simply replaced the entire wheel. When the axle snapped, the hub was also damaged, plus I've ridden it enough that the rim was also pretty worn. The bike shop will recycle the old wheel for me. So I'm still riding a 10+ yo bike I bought used. I've put 3600km on it so far this year.

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« Reply #1531 on: December 13, 2019, 02:02:19 PM »
Switching over from using tinned chickpeas in various recipes (probably at a rate of 3-4 tins a week depending what meals we're having) to dried carlin peas.

Don't even know where UK supermarket chickpeas are grown (would guess southern Europe). Label says "produced in the UK", but that'll be cooked and canned, not grown*. Much shipping, much packaging.

Carlin peas are an old British variety and come from an organic farm about fifty miles away (although they've probably actually done a couple of hundred miles to get to us via the distributor). The small bag I bought to try out is plastic, but their bigger quantities are paper sacks.

Bit more thinking ahead to get them soaked and cooked, but otherwise a straight swap.




* I know they're not because it's only this year that someone has grown the first commercial scale crop of chickpeas in the UK. They've just come on sale through the same distributor we bought the carlin peas (and a big sack of UK grown green lentils) from. I'll probably buy some of those as well, because I think shifting farming to more locally grown plant protein is something to be supported.

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« Reply #1532 on: December 13, 2019, 02:13:45 PM »
ptf - already implementing environmentally responsible behaviors, but clearly there's more to learn from this group

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« Reply #1533 on: December 14, 2019, 10:01:29 PM »
My nephew asked for an Xbox game for Chanukah, and I was able to find a local store where I could order it online and pick it up at the store. Same price as all the major online retailers and I was able to get it with no extra packaging/bag/box/receipt/etc. and no wasted delivery truck fuel. Bonus: I supported a local business instead of an international megacorp :-)  I'm going to try to do as much holiday shopping at local stores via public transit as possible.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1534 on: December 16, 2019, 08:03:06 AM »
Swept and dusted the floors instead of vacuuming.   

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« Reply #1535 on: December 16, 2019, 01:44:29 PM »
I'm never having kids. That is the single, greenest thing a person can do, because you're not leaving a footprint of carbon emissions that grows like a binary tree over generations.

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« Reply #1536 on: December 16, 2019, 02:20:57 PM »
I'm never having kids. That is the single, greenest thing a person can do, because you're not leaving a footprint of carbon emissions that grows like a binary tree over generations.

Except that in first/second world countries, once people hit middle class, population growth drops to almost zero.

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« Reply #1537 on: December 16, 2019, 02:30:23 PM »
I'm never having kids. That is the single, greenest thing a person can do, because you're not leaving a footprint of carbon emissions that grows like a binary tree over generations.

I'll respectfully disagree. Having or not having kids is not a "green thing".* It's a biological imperative for the species to survive.

There are a lot of reasons one may choose for having or not having kids, but judging others for having children is as equally wrong as those who might judge people for not having kids.

*Or, if you insist that it's "the single, greenest thing", my counterargument would be that suicide is greener (and homicide even greener, and genocide even greener, and extinction the greenest). (Not making light of these concepts, just following the logic train.)

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« Reply #1538 on: December 17, 2019, 08:18:11 AM »
This is a thing that I did last winter but realized today: adding insulation to my attic and exterior walls has lowered my electrical and natural gas consumption by about 20%! I pay my bills via equal monthly amounts, and for the second year running have had a large credit on my account at the end of the calculation year (September for me). The first year it was primarily through reducing my conscious use (by line-drying clothes, lowering the house temperature) and this past year I continued those habits and added insulation. While lower than average for my area, my home carbon footprint is still unsustainably high at nearly 3 tonnes of Co2.

*The grid electricity in my province is all hydroelectric, and if I switched to all electric heating, I could just about eliminate that 3 tonnes of CO2. However, my energy provider sells hydroelectric power to areas in the USA that would otherwise use coal to generate electricity, and it's more efficient overall for me to be burning natural gas for heat than for someone else to be burning coal for electricity.

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« Reply #1539 on: December 17, 2019, 08:51:18 AM »
I booked a train ticket for my travel on Thursday.  Commuter rail won't work for a holiday lunch time.

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« Reply #1540 on: December 17, 2019, 09:28:35 AM »
I'll respectfully disagree. Having or not having kids is not a "green thing".* It's a biological imperative for the species to survive.

There are a lot of reasons one may choose for having or not having kids, but judging others for having children is as equally wrong as those who might judge people for not having kids.

*Or, if you insist that it's "the single, greenest thing", my counterargument would be that suicide is greener (and homicide even greener, and genocide even greener, and extinction the greenest). (Not making light of these concepts, just following the logic train.)

I'm mostly being facetious. I think the whole "environmentalism as a moral stance" matter is ridiculous.

People who whine about the environment, but who also have children, are hypocrites to their own cause. As you pointed out, the fact that they don't commit suicide is further indication that there are some things more important than the environment. The fact is, if someone has kids, and I do not, then my Porsche is greener than their family Prius.

People who whine about the environment, but who then demand the adoption of inferior technologies (hydro, wind, and other sources that depend upon gravitational energy) as a "substitute", are scientifically-illiterate busybodies who want to use government policy to interfere with everyone else's lives just so that they can feel better about themselves.

I don't doubt the facts about the greenhouse effect. What I am skeptical about is whatever moral imperative or government solution people try to shoehorn in along with their righteous indignation. The challenge of preserving the environment will be achieved by scientists developing better energy-generating and energy-storage technology in the laboratory, not by moral zealots.

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« Reply #1541 on: December 17, 2019, 09:29:16 AM »
I'm never having kids. That is the single, greenest thing a person can do, because you're not leaving a footprint of carbon emissions that grows like a binary tree over generations.

Except that in first/second world countries, once people hit middle class, population growth drops to almost zero.

So what?

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« Reply #1542 on: December 17, 2019, 09:52:36 AM »
Don't you love it when some child with nothing better to do shows up in an internet forum, posts off-topic and openly admits to trolling, and continues to act entitled to people's time and attention? LOL

I picked up another wishlist gift for Chanukah with no bag/box/etc. via public transit, and combined five different stops into one trip (even though public transit uses minimal energy per person, it still uses some fuel to carry the weight of each person). I also picked up some things for my mom that would have been either picked up by her in a car or ordered on Amazon with all the associated packaging waste.

And when the lady at the liquor store offered to gift-wrap the bottle of wine I intended to drink immediately, I said no, even when she tried to convince me because it's free and it's fun to unwrap gifts you buy for yourself. Weird. I saved the plain paper she wrapped it in (to protect the bottle) and will draw on it and use it to wrap something for my brother, who will find it amusing.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1543 on: December 18, 2019, 11:37:04 AM »
Don't you love it when some child with nothing better to do shows up in an internet forum, posts off-topic and openly admits to trolling, and continues to act entitled to people's time and attention? LOL

Considering the only off-topic comment I see on this page is your notably ironic one, would you care to enlighten us as to which child you are intending to insult with your comment?

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« Reply #1544 on: December 18, 2019, 12:56:10 PM »
Biked into work again today, despite some rain. Tomorrow I'm skipping the bike due to weather (this is rare for me). We're supposed to get 50-75mm of rain. For people who live in drier areas, this is what I jokingly refer to as "build and ark" amounts of rain.

On the weekend I made some vegan sausages that are supposed to resemble the apple sage Field Roast ones my daughter and I like so much. I also used some tamale corn husks I had laying around to steam them, instead of using tinfoil. The commercial ones are usually $8/4, so the homemade ones saved some cash too.

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« Reply #1545 on: December 18, 2019, 03:17:55 PM »
It was actually Monday. But I finally got around to starting the project of cutting up scrap flannel that I have (worn out PJ pants, the leftovers from pillowcases that I converted from king to standard) into usable rags/hankies. The library has a serger!

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« Reply #1546 on: December 18, 2019, 04:01:56 PM »
Don't you love it when some child with nothing better to do shows up in an internet forum, posts off-topic and openly admits to trolling, and continues to act entitled to people's time and attention? LOL

Considering the only off-topic comment I see on this page is your notably ironic one, would you care to enlighten us as to which child you are intending to insult with your comment?

I'll respectfully disagree. Having or not having kids is not a "green thing".* It's a biological imperative for the species to survive.

There are a lot of reasons one may choose for having or not having kids, but judging others for having children is as equally wrong as those who might judge people for not having kids.

*Or, if you insist that it's "the single, greenest thing", my counterargument would be that suicide is greener (and homicide even greener, and genocide even greener, and extinction the greenest). (Not making light of these concepts, just following the logic train.)

I'm mostly being facetious. I think the whole "environmentalism as a moral stance" matter is ridiculous.

People who whine about the environment, but who also have children, are hypocrites to their own cause. As you pointed out, the fact that they don't commit suicide is further indication that there are some things more important than the environment. The fact is, if someone has kids, and I do not, then my Porsche is greener than their family Prius.

People who whine about the environment, but who then demand the adoption of inferior technologies (hydro, wind, and other sources that depend upon gravitational energy) as a "substitute", are scientifically-illiterate busybodies who want to use government policy to interfere with everyone else's lives just so that they can feel better about themselves.

I don't doubt the facts about the greenhouse effect. What I am skeptical about is whatever moral imperative or government solution people try to shoehorn in along with their righteous indignation. The challenge of preserving the environment will be achieved by scientists developing better energy-generating and energy-storage technology in the laboratory, not by moral zealots.

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Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm; but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves. - T.S. Eliot
Pretty sure that she's referring to Escapedape's deliberately controversial comment about not having kids and then poo-pooing the idea that individuals (who are on a forum designed to encourage individuals to take responsibility for how they live their lives and reduce the financial and environmental impact of consumerism) should take any action to reduce our carbon footprint through effective use of existing but imperfect technologies such as wind, solar and hydroelectric power.

While new technologies and innovations will undoubtedly play a large role in the mitigation of the impact of climate change, the fact is that they do not yet exist. Accordingly, we need to buy time and slow the rate of accumulation of greenhouse gasses by using the tools that are available to us NOW, so that we buy the scientific community time to develop new technologies before a climate cataclysm.

Edit: Escapedape is suggesting that there is no need to reduce our environmental impact, because science will magically save the day AND that we're self-important fascists for trying.
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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1547 on: December 18, 2019, 04:46:16 PM »
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Edit: Escapedape is suggesting that there is no need to reduce our environmental impact, because science will magically save the day AND that we're self-important fascists for trying.

Emphasis mine.

I just finished Lindy West's new book The Witches Are Coming and a lot of it had to do with how we find ourselves in a culture where it isn't cool to care too much about anything, at least among certain segments of the population. She's making an impassioned plea for, well, not being like that.

I forgot another thing I did Monday. I finished the set of cloth napkins that I am giving my nephew for Christmas. They are made from licensed fabric because he's nine. Now he will have his very own cool set to use in his 100% cloth-napkin house. I hope that both he and my kids will grow up to be vaguely horrified by the idea of paper napkins, as they are not something they've been exposed to regularly.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1548 on: December 18, 2019, 05:15:50 PM »
Edit: Escapedape is suggesting that there is no need to reduce our environmental impact, because science will magically save the day AND that we're self-important fascists for trying.

I remember politicians and the media in the 80s telling us that we would be spiraling towards environmental disaster within the next ten years.

They said the same thing in the 90s.

And in the aughts.

My mum tells me they were saying it in the 60s and 70s.

And they're saying it again now. But no disaster yet. Just a lot of panicked people voting more nonsense into law.

We've banned plastic bags and straws here and there, and admonished ourselves in front of the world. Meanwhile, countries like China and India are somehow free to throw global consideration to the wind and continue at a pace which suits their them, global environmental treaties be damned.

I care what happens to the planet too - it's where I keep all my stuff.

I'll take personal steps to lower my footprint the same as anyone else. The operative idea here is that they will be personal steps. They will be voluntary. I will not use the law to twist people's arms. I will let the demand for greener solutions guide the market to providing solutions, rather than creating incentives for abuse by entrusting the whole process to elected officials.

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Re: What small things did you do today to reduce your environmental impact?
« Reply #1549 on: December 18, 2019, 06:16:21 PM »

Then elect better officials.