Monday Total Cost $20 Total Calories 5400 Breakfeast 3 Bananas, 2 Avacados $3 cal 800 Lunch Nuts and Berries $2 cal 600 Dinner "Under the Sun - Happy Hour Garlic flat bread $5.95 Chicken Skewers $4.95 Frites $3.95" $15 4,000 Tuesday Cost $20 Calories 5000 Breakfeast 3 Bananas, 2 Avacados $3 cal 800 Lunch Nuts and Berries $2 cal 600 Dinner "The Roost - Happy Hour Kids Farms grass burger,fries,fruit,milk $5 POLENTA BITES $5 BUFFALO CHICKEN SLIDERS $5 " $15 cal 3600 Wednesday Cost $15 Calories 4900 Breakfeast 3 Bananas, 2 Avacados $3 800 Lunch Nuts and Berries $2 cal 600 Dinner "Longmont Public House - Burger Night 2x Burger& Fries $5 each" $10 cal 3500 Thursday Cost $29 Calories 5400 Breakfeast 3 Bananas, 2 Avacados $3 cal 800 Lunch Nuts and Berries $2 cal 600 Dinner "Samples Longmont - Happy Hour Kids Meal Chicken&Fries&Milk $6 Brussel Sprouts $4 Korean BBQ Sandwich $14" $24 cal 4,000 Friday Cost $23 Calories 4900 Breakfeast 3 Bananas, 2 Avacados $3 cal 800 Lunch Nuts and Berries $2 cal 600 Dinner "Caprese Trattoria - Happy Hour POLPETTE $5 PORCHETTA $6 MARGHERITA $7" $18 cal 3500 Saturday Cost $20 Calories 4400 Breakfeast 3 Bananas, 2 Avacados $3 cal 800 Lunch Nuts and Berries $2 cal 600 Dinner "Chic Fil a 3 Chicken Sandwitches Large Waffle Fries" $15 cal 3000 Sunday Cost $34 Calories 4900 Breakfeast 3 Bananas, 2 Avacados $3 cal 800 Lunch Nuts and Berries $2 cal 600 Dinner "The Dickens Taveern Brunch Kids Pancake $5 2 x Brunch specials $12 each" $29 cal 3500 My conclusion to this eating out and owning a home with no kitchen is about the same cost as cooking at home with a 450 sqft kitchen. |
The most notable error in thinking is the odd presupposition that a kitchen in a home is somehow an optional perk for which one pays extra, when in fact it's pretty much a standard feature of any property, including rentals.
The most notable error in thinking is the odd presupposition that a kitchen in a home is somehow an optional perk for which one pays extra, when in fact it's pretty much a standard feature of any property, including rentals.
I agree with this, Im not going to be able to buy a home with out a kitchen. However in this case, MMM purchased the home gutted it and rebuilt it. MMM chose to build a kitchen therefore it was optional.
This may be apocryphal, but I remember learning that in ancient Rome, street food was the only way for much of the population to get a hot meal, since they didn't have kitchens in the home. There are still places where cooking options in the home are limited, and dining out is the common way to eat (my friend from Singapore went through some culture shock in the US, since he was used to eating at street vendors for nearly every meal, and it was *relatively* inexpensive, probably because space is more expensive there than in the States). So there is definitely something to the hidden cost of kitchens, but it doesn't quite make sense in the US given our current housing options.
The middle ground may be connected to the growth of communal living spaces. As more people grow isolated in the "single family home" model, designed communities for adults and families are growing. These almost always have large communal cooking spaces, and often trade individual kitchen space for it (though most seem to still maintain kitchenettes of a sort, just not the massive kitchens we see in single family homes). Bonus efficiency: cooking for a crowd decreases the cost per serving.
But in general I think this is an argument against huge, wasteful kitchens, rather than an argument against cooking at home. I use an induction hotplate to cook 90% of my meals in my apartment kitchen. Maybe no huge Thanksgiving feast, but day-to-day cooking doesn't need a huge countertop and double-wide fridge.
Just as the amount paid in a shop for an item does not always reflect the true cost (to the environment and other human beings), the cost of eating out and not having a kitchen goes beyond just adding up the obvious numbers.The home kitchen is one of the most energy demanding parts of the home. What is more efficient the car that transports 4 people or the bus that can transport 50 people. I think the same holds true for 450 sqft used for 3 people vs a restaurant that has 3000 sqft used for 100 people.
If you’re going to try to factor hidden costs like this, you forgot all of the healthcare costs associated with restaurant food - the cheaper options will be protein deficient and fried starches in soybean oil, and eventually health will suffer.
450 sqft for a kitchen, you people must live in big places, that is half the size of my whole place. Who is going to buy a place without a kitchen anyway? Horrible resale value.
If you’re going to try to factor hidden costs like this, you forgot all of the healthcare costs associated with restaurant food - the cheaper options will be protein deficient and fried starches in soybean oil, and eventually health will suffer.
But don't you see? Living longer actually increases the cost of cooking at home! Every year is just more money spent on food and opportunity costs of your extravagant kitchen. Best to just keel over as soon as possible. It's the best way to reduce expenses.
Did you learn anything in 2015?
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/eating-at-restaurants-cheaper-then-cooking-at-home/
If you’re going to try to factor hidden costs like this, you forgot all of the healthcare costs associated with restaurant food - the cheaper options will be protein deficient and fried starches in soybean oil, and eventually health will suffer.
But don't you see? Living longer actually increases the cost of cooking at home! Every year is just more money spent on food and opportunity costs of your extravagant kitchen. Best to just keel over as soon as possible. It's the best way to reduce expenses.
What exactly about eating out is unhealthy? A decent restaurant will match the quality of ingredients you buy at a grocery store or may be even better.
If you’re going to try to factor hidden costs like this, you forgot all of the healthcare costs associated with restaurant food - the cheaper options will be protein deficient and fried starches in soybean oil, and eventually health will suffer.
But don't you see? Living longer actually increases the cost of cooking at home! Every year is just more money spent on food and opportunity costs of your extravagant kitchen. Best to just keel over as soon as possible. It's the best way to reduce expenses.
What exactly about eating out is unhealthy? A decent restaurant will match the quality of ingredients you buy at a grocery store or may be even better.
Have you ever worked in a restaurant??
My kitchen is actually pretty spiffy, and my food is delicious.
Did you learn anything in 2015?
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/eating-at-restaurants-cheaper-then-cooking-at-home/
In light of this gem, OP, I don't think you're going to find what you're looking for here.
Maybe this all some experiment to see if the forum has gotten that much softer in the past three years? ;)Did you learn anything in 2015?
https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/eating-at-restaurants-cheaper-then-cooking-at-home/
In light of this gem, OP, I don't think you're going to find what you're looking for here.
DUDE! You totally posted this exact thread three years ago! Busted! Why you still hung up on this weird idea that doesn't really make sense?