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Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« on: October 27, 2021, 01:24:43 PM »
I'm traveling solo cross country from east coast to west coast in December, sticking mostly to the I-40 route.

On the way west, I'll be following (mostly staying in same towns and even same hotels) with family members in a different car.  They're pretty spendy, so in the more expensive cities, I'll stay nearby but in less expensive hotels.

On the way east, I'll be traveling alone with just my dog. 

I have never done this before and am a little nervous.  I don't even know how to stop and go to the bathroom when I have a dog (do I  bring him into the bathroom with me?)  Do I have to scope out dog-friendly restrooms along the way?

I'm looking for advice for safety, savings, ease of driving, anxious dog traveling, etc. 

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2021, 02:11:30 PM »
Dogs are not encouraged in rest stops, and I hope you won’t lie about it being a therapy dog.

It will be cool in December. Leave the windows rolled down an inch and be quick in and out of the bathroom.

FYI - a motel that accepts dogs expects you to stay with the dog at all times, not leave it in the room while you go out to dinner.

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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2021, 02:16:00 PM »
Cruise control is your friend on long, boring stretches of highway--very easy to get going too fast, thus risking a ticket and/or accident. Don't try to cover too much distance in a day. Driving is tiring, and you need your sleep, even if it costs you more to break up your trip into shorter segments.


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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2021, 02:34:26 PM »
I travelled cross country with my dog a couple of years ago. It wasn't too hard to find hotels that accept dogs now. I was fine leaving my dog in the car with the windows cracked while I went to the bathroom as it wasn't too hot. Traveling both directions in December? Hope you don't hit too much bad weather! I-40 I guess doesn't get too high on elevation though, right?

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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2021, 04:13:02 PM »
Dogs are not encouraged in rest stops, and I hope you won’t lie about it being a therapy dog.

It will be cool in December. Leave the windows rolled down an inch and be quick in and out of the bathroom.

FYI - a motel that accepts dogs expects you to stay with the dog at all times, not leave it in the room while you go out to dinner.

I didn’t know the last part. That’s good info.
To your first comment:  No, I’m not a liar, but thanks for asking.

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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2021, 04:52:52 PM »
It sounds stressful to me to have to coordinate "caravan'ing" with other family members.  Is that necessary for this trip?  If it were me, I'd prefer to go at my own pace, stop when I want to, where I want to, etc -- without worrying where any travel companions are on the same route, in relation to me.


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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2021, 05:05:31 PM »
If your car stereo supports it a USB stick with a bunch of music, podcasts and books for those long empty areas with no radio reception. You can also use your cell phone, just copy things onto it locally before the trip and before you go into the areas without cell coverage.  Find some way of interfacing it with the car, Bluetooth, USB or even just a stereo mini plug if and your phone have a headphone jack.

I also like to bring an Amazon TV stick for hotel rooms, just plug it into the spare HDMI port on the TV and your can watch shows without commercials.

Pro-tip for the tech savvy, most hotels (not motels) still have ethernet jacks in the guest rooms, bring a spare wi-fi enabled router and plug it in and you'll have excellent coverage and no speed throttling.

Pre cell phone days I would also have recommended a pair of family-band radios to communicate with the rest of the caravan, not really needed these days.

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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2021, 05:08:44 PM »
I’ve lived in about a dozen states all over the U.S. and regularly travel cross country (pretty much yearly by car) to see family.

We have always had a dog, first a chocolate lab and the last 4 years a German Shepherd. When our German Shepherd was 3 months old we did a 7 week, 7000-8000 mile US/Canada road trip. We stayed in a tent every night but a couple.

When we stop, we simply leave the dog in the car. If it’s super hot or super cold we leave it running and lock it. At motels you have to see what their pet policy is. Many that say they have a weight limit, really don’t care, and they’ll tell you it’s fine when you call.

Because I have a pretty expensive vehicle now, we keep our dog in his kennel when we travel instead of letting him roam. When we get to the hotel, we’ll bring his kennel up to the room. We have never had an issue leaving him in the room while we’re gone for hours/full day, but he’s also not a barker unless someone knocks on the door. If I had a yappy dog that barked a lot, it would be pretty inconsiderate to leave him in the room to bother neighbors.

If you’re unable to leave your dog in your car for even 15-20 minutes at a time to get some food, that’s going to become a major issue..

If your dog is small enough that you can put them in a small handbag or something, that could change the dynamics quite a bit.

Much of this will boil down to the behaviors of your dog.

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2021, 10:35:51 PM »
Dogs are not encouraged in rest stops, and I hope you won’t lie about it being a therapy dog.

It will be cool in December. Leave the windows rolled down an inch and be quick in and out of the bathroom.

FYI - a motel that accepts dogs expects you to stay with the dog at all times, not leave it in the room while you go out to dinner.

I didn’t know the last part. That’s good info.
To your first comment:  No, I’m not a liar, but thanks for asking.

All La quinta’s take dogs with no pet fee.

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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2021, 06:52:36 AM »
Will you have a crate for your dog? Some dogs feel more secure traveling this way. If you haven't tested out before, maybe take a shorter weekend trip and see how it goes.

For rest stops, I usually park away from other cars or put up window sun shades in front (I bought the Weathertech set) so there are fewer distractions and dog feels safe inside.

You should leave the car running if it's too hot or cold. In some states it's illegal to leave your dog alone in the car.
A post-it note on the driver window can work similarly to Tesla dog mode sign, eg "Car is at 72°, dogs are fine. I'll be right back, call (123) 456-7890 with any concerns".

If you haven't done this before, don't underestimate how stiff/sore you can get driving long-distance. I try to stop every 2-3 hrs, but even so, am miserably sore and my lower back gets bruised sitting for so long even with an extra pillow support.

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2021, 09:38:25 AM »
Crunchy snacks seem to assist with remaining alert: pretzels, carrots, peanuts. Cold water. Go easy on sugary stuff.

Caffeine in pill form (No-Doz or generic equivalent).

I really like audio books for long boring stretches.

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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2021, 09:46:05 AM »
Dogs are not encouraged in rest stops, and I hope you won’t lie about it being a therapy dog.

It will be cool in December. Leave the windows rolled down an inch and be quick in and out of the bathroom.

FYI - a motel that accepts dogs expects you to stay with the dog at all times, not leave it in the room while you go out to dinner.

I’ve run into some pretty entitled dog owners while traveling in the last few years. I saw two dogs wearing “therapy dog” vests get into a fight with another dog in a hotel lobby. So, I’m pretty cynical these days…

I didn’t know the last part. That’s good info.
To your first comment:  No, I’m not a liar, but thanks for asking.

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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2021, 09:54:08 AM »
If your dog hasn't spent a lot of time in a moving car, you may want to talk to your vet ahead of time about dealing with motion sickness and anxiety.  My first dog was the most laid back and relaxed dog until she had to be in the car.  We had to get tranquilizers to take her with us on vacation each year.  We also had to limit our stops around her need to go potty.  Extra stops would ramp up her anxiety.  The other two dogs traveled like champs.  Ymmv.

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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2021, 02:32:19 PM »
It sounds stressful to me to have to coordinate "caravan'ing" with other family members.  Is that necessary for this trip?  If it were me, I'd prefer to go at my own pace, stop when I want to, where I want to, etc -- without worrying where any travel companions are on the same route, in relation to me.
Part (most) of me feels the same.  I'll have the return trip to make any changes and do it more "my way".

If your car stereo supports it a USB stick with a bunch of music, podcasts and books for those long empty areas with no radio reception. You can also use your cell phone, just copy things onto it locally before the trip and before you go into the areas without cell coverage.  Find some way of interfacing it with the car, Bluetooth, USB or even just a stereo mini plug if and your phone have a headphone jack.

I also like to bring an Amazon TV stick for hotel rooms, just plug it into the spare HDMI port on the TV and your can watch shows without commercials.

Pro-tip for the tech savvy, most hotels (not motels) still have ethernet jacks in the guest rooms, bring a spare wi-fi enabled router and plug it in and you'll have excellent coverage and no speed throttling.

Excellent advice!  I have a ton of podcasts and audio books and can't wait for the car-solitude to listen to so many, but I hadn't thought about making sure to download in advance.  I'll get some of those never-used usb sticks out of the junk drawer! 
I have an Amazon TV stick too, that I never use -- I'll practice a bit with that. It will probably be good to have at our destination too.
I probably won't go so far as to bring a router, but will keep that in mind for future travels. 

Much of this will boil down to the behaviors of your dog.
My dog turns into what my family calls "the ceramic dog" when anxious.  In the car, wherever I place him is where he stays with very little movement.  He sits and pants.  :(    I've been trying out some Hemp and other anti-anxiety meds, and next is the vet. 
Not a barker, unless someone's outside the door AND I'm inside.  But in hotels, who knows?  He probably won't feel territorial enough in 1-2 nights to act tough.

Oh, and we're working on making him comfortable getting "in the bag".  He can fit in a bag, and will get in for cheese.  :)

All La quinta’s take dogs with no pet fee.
Super!  I have two of them on my itinerary so far.  I'll look for more of them.  Thanks for the tip!

Will you have a crate for your dog?

For rest stops, I usually park away from other cars or put up window sun shades in front (I bought the Weathertech set) so there are fewer distractions and dog feels safe inside.

You should leave the car running if it's too hot or cold. In some states it's illegal to leave your dog alone in the car.
A post-it note on the driver window can work similarly to Tesla dog mode sign, eg "Car is at 72°, dogs are fine. I'll be right back, call (123) 456-7890 with any concerns".

If you haven't done this before, don't underestimate how stiff/sore you can get driving long-distance. I try to stop every 2-3 hrs, but even so, am miserably sore and my lower back gets bruised sitting for so long even with an extra pillow support.

He has a little car seat with seat belt to try to make him feel more secure.  Doesn't work.  He's still "the ceramic dog".  Sits straight up and stares and pants at me the entire drive.  On a few occasions he has tried to curl up and shut his eyes, but he gets back up again.  Makes me think he's more car-sick than simply anxious. 
Front shade:  I have one.  I will try it out with him in the car.   I've never used one with him.  Never left him alone in the car for more than 3-4 minutes.
Post-it Note: I am going to print one out and laminate it today!  That's a great tip.
driving and stopping:  Good point!




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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2021, 02:44:28 PM »
Crunchy snacks seem to assist with remaining alert: pretzels, carrots, peanuts. Cold water. Go easy on sugary stuff.

Caffeine in pill form (No-Doz or generic equivalent).

I really like audio books for long boring stretches.

I really like spicy snacks for keeping myself alert.

In addition to La Quinta, pets stay free at Red Roof Inns.

Don't stick to the highway the whole time. It will slow you down, but take some time out to drive quieter roads, go through towns, etc.

If my SO has to drive a long, boring stretch, she schedules (hands free) calls with a bunch of her friends to pass the time.

Keep track of the weather, particularly when you get to the mountains.

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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2021, 02:57:50 PM »
I'm very familiar with I-40 for the first part of your trip (Asheville to OK border). Here's my $.02.

1) Snacking regularly on something that won't completely spike your blood sugar is a good move. Much better than stopping for 2 or 3 big meals at a time where you're more likely to get drowsy.

2) Pay attention to when you're driving through the big cities. I don't know about I-40 out west, but east of the Mississippi you'll want to avoid Knoxville, Nashville, and Memphis at peak commuting hours (~7am-10am and 4pm-7pm). Note that Nashville is in the Central Time zone. Hitting these cities at the wrong time will add hours of stop and go driving to your trip and increase your stress and frustration.

3) If you don't already, use a driving app - even if you know where you're going. I use google maps and it often saves me hours if there is a big accident. It will automatically route you around the problem if that is possible. It is also nice to know that if traffic is stopped on the interstate to know if this is a 5 min slowdown or a 2 hour clusterbomb.

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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2021, 07:18:12 AM »
A lot of advice for crunchy snacks.  I guess I'll plan on a small cooler with some carrot sticks.  Last time I drove long distances, I was much younger and skinny as a rail -- so stopping for junk food was fun. 

Driving app:  I don't use one regularly, but when I do, I get so frustrated because with apple and google, if I miss an instruction, I cannot figure out how to get the darn thing to just repeat what it just said.  When I use waze, my phone seems to get very hot and run down batteries quickly because it seems to be working the entire time.  I know to keep the phone plugged in the whole time now, but any suggestions on the best driving app?

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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2021, 08:15:36 AM »
My wife and I take extended road trips (6 to 8 weeks at a time) and we stay in motels most of the time unless we are staying with friends and family. One thing I would recommend is getting a motel chain affiliated credit card and membership. We use Choice hotels because they have bedding that we like and have a wide variety motels across the country. We got a sign up bonus on the credit card and used points to pay for some of our stays.
Have not traveled with a dog but I know that some hotel chains are dog friendly. Find out which ones and sign up for their membership program.
Regarding dog friendly rest stops, it varies from state to state. Some have designated dog areas some don't.
Unless you like country music, be sure to bring your own. I have an mp3 player with a ton of music in case I find myself in radio wasteland. If you stick to the interstates, you should have decent cell phone coverage for streaming and navigation. If you are going out in the sticks, it is good to have gps navigation or a good map.
To avoid getting stuck eating fast food and waiting in long lines for lunch, we buy a healthy lunch before we hit the road in the morning, store it in a cooler, and then look for a scenic place along the way to stop and have a picnic lunch.

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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2021, 09:12:58 AM »
A lot of advice for crunchy snacks.  I guess I'll plan on a small cooler with some carrot sticks.  Last time I drove long distances, I was much younger and skinny as a rail -- so stopping for junk food was fun. 

Driving app:  I don't use one regularly, but when I do, I get so frustrated because with apple and google, if I miss an instruction, I cannot figure out how to get the darn thing to just repeat what it just said.  When I use waze, my phone seems to get very hot and run down batteries quickly because it seems to be working the entire time.  I know to keep the phone plugged in the whole time now, but any suggestions on the best driving app?

Get a small 12V cooler. These are less than $100 and eliminates the need for buying ice along the way.

And get a cell phone automobile cradle for your phone. You'll have to figure out which ones work for your phone and car. But once setup, the driving directions are right in front of you, so if you miss an audible direction you can just look at the app for the same info.

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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2021, 09:22:28 AM »
Sounds awesome!!
I love road trips and have done some 24+ hr driving trips (non stop, switching drivers).

Go SLOW! MMk, for reals though, follow the speed limit. That will save you some coin and reduce your fatigue. Driving 60-70 vs 80-90 when you're in a hurry makes you tired and burns a lot more fuel. Take frequent breaks. Skip a fancy cooler, stop more frequently for a coffee, cold soda or just to take a walk. You'll have more fun, the dog will appreciate it and you can stay more alert.

For safety.. Carry a good flashlight. Go to a sporting goods store, buy a good $40 or more flashlight that takes aa batteries or is rechargeable that puts out 500 plus lumens. Good lighting can help you avoid conflict when you inevitably make stops in low light. Carry it with you.
Second, while you're at the sporting goods store, buy some Bear Spray or good "fogger" pepper spray. Great if you do go hiking anywhere but it's fantastic to carry in the car. In the event you needed to defend yourself, it's a non-lethal option that is easy to use and effective. Check laws, but I think pepper spray is legal to carry in every state.

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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2021, 11:03:18 AM »
My advice is to drive shorter days.  (Insist on this with your caravan.)  It's safer and more pleasant.  If you are having to resort fo coffee of pills to keep yourself awake, you are unsafe.  It is well, well worth taking an extra day or two and spending an extra night or two in moderately priced hotels to stay safe, and that doesn't even factor in your physical comfort.  Stop every couple of hours, even if only for 10 minutes in which you take the dog for a quick walk and pee break.  Sleep in until a decent hour, and plan to stop shortly after dark, if not before. 

For the portion you aren't caravaning, look into interesting things to see along the route, even if you have to go somewhat out of your way.  Turn the time into a moving vacation, rather than simply a transport of yourself and your dog across the country.  You will be somewhat limited by the dog, but there are pet-friends sites to see and visit.  Find them.  Even if that means adding two hours to a day, and adding a couple extra days to the trip.  Use this as time to explore, not just time to change locations. 

Fill a cooler with free ice at your hotel before leaving (most have them, and that doesn't seem to have changed for Covid, as far as I can tell). You don't need to buy a fancy cooler that plugs in to your car.  A few bags (have some zip locks in your car) of free ice will be more than sufficient to keep a couple drinks and a sandwich cold for the day. 

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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2021, 11:20:54 AM »
Seconding the Red Roof Inn and La Quinta - we've stayed at both with our dog. Other places that allow dogs sometimes have weight limits, but so far no one has questioned us on it. And our boy is 95 lbs, so staying at a 50lb limit did seem to be pushing it... but no one cared.

At rest stops, there's usually a grassy area, even if there isn't a specific dog area. (Most dog areas aren't that great, but some have water fountains which are good.) I always take the dog for a walk first, and then be sure to offer him water each time we stop. My dog seems excessively thirsty on road trips - I think he is worried and pants a lot, so he needs refills. I let him sniff for at least 15 minutes, because he hates getting back in the car. Then leave him in the car while you go into the rest room, keeping the windows cracked. Hopefully the weather won't be a huge issue for driving across country at this time of year. Good luck!

Oh, my partner requires salty snacks to stay awake. And loud music. But you'll figure out what works for you. We do try to stop at dog beaches and parks while on the road with our boy, so he can run off some nervous energy, but that takes advance planning and can add extra time, as Villanelle says. 

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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2021, 01:06:44 PM »
for reals though, follow the speed limit.

For safety.. Carry a good flashlight.

buy some Bear Spray or good "fogger" pepper spray.

A few of you have said to keep to the speed limit and use Cruise.  I think I'm starting to believe it.
Flashlight - check. 
Bear Spray - hmmm.  I'm considering whether to bring my handgun.  More than any other reason, because I don't want to leave it unattended in my home.  I would put a trigger lock on it (which I am aware makes it useless for self-defense).  But now I'm thinking I do not want the hassle of a stupid gun.   Honestly, I really don't want any weapons but maybe bear spray will make me feel more secure in the remote areas. 

My advice is to drive shorter days. 

 Turn the time into a moving vacation, rather than simply a transport of yourself and your dog across the country. 
All days will be 4-6 hours on the way out there.  But you're right about turning the return trip into a vacation.  This is why I retired.  I may get up the nerve to try car or tent camping for one or two nights on my way back.  It will be a good test for myself to see if I'm capable of enjoying the journey (I usually just try to press on to the next thing)

be sure to offer him water each time we stop. My dog seems excessively thirsty on road trips

We do try to stop at dog beaches and parks while on the road with our boy, so he can run off some nervous energy, but that takes advance planning
Mine pants too and gets thirsty after every car ride.  I'll have to bring extra water for him.
Dog parks are a good idea.  I picked up the tranqs from the vet today and will test them out over the next weeks, so he may not feel like running.  But I'm bringing a toy that he goes nuts for and will play every chance he gets -- good for outside & inside.  We'll play in the hotels too.

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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2021, 02:19:32 PM »
for reals though, follow the speed limit.

For safety.. Carry a good flashlight.

buy some Bear Spray or good "fogger" pepper spray.

A few of you have said to keep to the speed limit and use Cruise.  I think I'm starting to believe it.
Flashlight - check. 
Bear Spray - hmmm.  I'm considering whether to bring my handgun.  More than any other reason, because I don't want to leave it unattended in my home.  I would put a trigger lock on it (which I am aware makes it useless for self-defense).  But now I'm thinking I do not want the hassle of a stupid gun.   Honestly, I really don't want any weapons but maybe bear spray will make me feel more secure in the remote areas. 

My advice is to drive shorter days. 

 Turn the time into a moving vacation, rather than simply a transport of yourself and your dog across the country. 
All days will be 4-6 hours on the way out there.  But you're right about turning the return trip into a vacation.  This is why I retired.  I may get up the nerve to try car or tent camping for one or two nights on my way back.  It will be a good test for myself to see if I'm capable of enjoying the journey (I usually just try to press on to the next thing)

be sure to offer him water each time we stop. My dog seems excessively thirsty on road trips

We do try to stop at dog beaches and parks while on the road with our boy, so he can run off some nervous energy, but that takes advance planning
Mine pants too and gets thirsty after every car ride.  I'll have to bring extra water for him.
Dog parks are a good idea.  I picked up the tranqs from the vet today and will test them out over the next weeks, so he may not feel like running.  But I'm bringing a toy that he goes nuts for and will play every chance he gets -- good for outside & inside.  We'll play in the hotels too.

It sounds like you are leaning away from it, but if you do consider bringing a gun, consider the laws of all the states you will be passing through.  Actually, make sure you do the same with any self-protection spays, for that matter.  Those things seem like overkill to me, but if you do them, just make sure you aren't going to inadvertently run afoul of the law in any of the places you will set foot (or set tire, as the case may be). 

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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2021, 03:58:00 PM »
I’m such a darn rule-follower. I’ll prob realize it’s too much trouble AND stupidly reckless to carry any weapon cross country unless I’m sleeping outside in bear country! 

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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2021, 04:08:51 PM »
It sounds like you are leaning away from it, but if you do consider bringing a gun, consider the laws of all the states you will be passing through. 

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, but 18 USC § 926A allows you to transport firearms through states where they would otherwise be illegal to possess in some cases.
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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2021, 04:54:10 PM »
It sounds like you are leaning away from it, but if you do consider bringing a gun, consider the laws of all the states you will be passing through. 

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, but 18 USC § 926A allows you to transport firearms through states where they would otherwise be illegal to possess in some cases.

There are some pretty significant *if*s there, and may not be required in all states, but are required in order to supersede the state's gun laws.  The larger point stands: use caution when transporting a firearm across state lines. 

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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2021, 05:13:10 PM »
It sounds like you are leaning away from it, but if you do consider bringing a gun, consider the laws of all the states you will be passing through. 

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, but 18 USC § 926A allows you to transport firearms through states where they would otherwise be illegal to possess in some cases.

There are some pretty significant *if*s there, and may not be required in all states, but are required in order to supersede the state's gun laws.  The larger point stands: use caution when transporting a firearm across state lines.

I agree, if only because lawyers are expensive and getting arrested sounds painful. Unless you are travelling to grizzly bear territory, and even if you are, I see no need. Of course the other school of though is: how would you possibly get caught?

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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2021, 05:32:42 PM »
For my dog, a bulldog and a fairly large one, staying in the car in December would not be a problem. If you have a small dog cold weather is a problem, but you probably won’t be gone from the car long enough for that to be a real issue.

If you are traveling in the heat of July across the country it would be a different situation entirely was leaving a dog in a car.


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« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2021, 09:30:59 AM »
My spouse and I made several cross-country trips (CA-Boston) in December/January when we were in our 30s, sometimes with one dog, sometimes with two.  A lot of this has already been said, but here are my 2 cents:

1.  YES to La Quinta!  We loved this chain during our travels.  Very accommodating for our largish dogs.  Plus, they provided flexibility -- if we felt good and wanted to keep going during a planned leg, we would call a La Quinta in a farther location and make a reservation, and then call the existing reservation to cancel.  Vice versa if we felt tired and wanted to stop at an earlier location.  Also, free breakfast setups were convenient.   We would take turns getting breakfast while the other packed/watched the dogs. 

2.  Driving in December:  Goes without saying, but weather is a factor and you'll need to monitor as you go.  We've had interstates shut down in both directions due to snow/wind and had to extend stays in one location.  So we always factored in buffer days if possible.  Once when going on I-40 they shut down the highway west of Amarillo, TX due to a snowstorm (!).  This was New Years eve and there were literally dozens of stuck travelers camped out in lobbies of hotels/motels in Amarillo hoping for a room.  We found a motel that took sympathy on our dog and gave us a dirty room.  THAT was a memorable New Years Eve!

3.  We liked packing a big cooler with sandwiches and fruit at the beginning.  That avoided having long waits at rest stops to eat not-so-healthy food.  Also nut mixes and dried fruit. 

4.  Can members of your caravan watch your dog at stops while you use the restroom for the first leg?  Otherwise, agree with what others have said. 

5.  Hours driving per day:  I think this is debatable.  We usually made the drive in 4 legs.  Sometimes this involved stretches of 1000 + miles and 18-22 hours, switching drivers.  This saved on the amount of hotel stays and packing/unpacking the car, confusion of our dogs in staying in many new places, etc.  That said, I would NEVER do that now that I'm creeping up on 50.  Just too tiring and risky.  I would do 5 or even 6 or 7 legs now.  I think age is a factor in how much you can drive in one stretch. 

6.  Boredom:  We did this in the CD days, so we would burn several CD's worth of driving music.  Easier now due to digital music.  Also, sounds silly, but playing 20 Questions made many long stretches fly by.  I'm wondering if being alone in the car will make boredom an extra challenge.  Maybe if you have a hands-free system you can call a member of your caravan if you need a human to converse with.  On the other hand, being alone with your thoughts and dog sounds nice too!

7.  Yes to cruise control.  We usually set it within 5 miles of the speed limit.

Overall, driving cross-country can be a fun experience, but it is draining.  I've thought of it like they say about childbirth -- right after you say you'll never ever do it again but over time you get the itch for that fun adventure!  Good luck and enjoy the journey!

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« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2021, 07:58:55 AM »
A lot of advice for crunchy snacks.  I guess I'll plan on a small cooler with some carrot sticks.  Last time I drove long distances, I was much younger and skinny as a rail -- so stopping for junk food was fun. 

Driving app:  I don't use one regularly, but when I do, I get so frustrated because with apple and google, if I miss an instruction, I cannot figure out how to get the darn thing to just repeat what it just said.  When I use waze, my phone seems to get very hot and run down batteries quickly because it seems to be working the entire time.  I know to keep the phone plugged in the whole time now, but any suggestions on the best driving app?

I often use the "Directions" feature on Google Maps with the sound turned off and just glance at the instructions once in a while. But - no joke - I've saved sitting on the interstate for 3 hours because Google Maps told me to turn off at an earlier exit and take the side roads for 20 minutes to get around the problem.

"Bear Spray"? I didn't realize you were travelling by covered wagon? Oh, as an alternative to pepper spray - I can see that. Definitely a good idea to have a powerful flashlight.

The hotel recommendations are great. If you're pre-scheduling your hotel stops, then be sure to do a quick Google Maps satellite view of the hotel. I tend to like hotels in towns of 10-50,000 people. You'll have some restaurant/take-out options but are less likely to have a hotel in the middle of a sketchy industrial wasteland.

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« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2021, 10:00:47 AM »
So much good advice above! With regard to carrying a firearm, if you decide to do it, make sure to print each state’s law and carry them with you. More importantly, follow those laws from state-to-state. For example, some states will require you have the firearm out of reach, unloaded and ammo in a separate space from the weapon itself. Take the laws seriously. We carry a firearm when on road trips, but are very careful to abide by each state’s laws. Also, hopefully it goes without saying, but make sure to take it in the hotel each night and then double/triple check each morning that you haven’t left it behind.

We, too, have a dog that doesn’t enjoy being in the car. We recently bought a new car and got this backseat dog hammock for times when she must go in the car with us. It supports buckling her in for safety and I’ve been blown away at how much more calm and at ease she is. It is probably the best $40 we’ve recently spent. Good quality, etc.

https://www.chewy.com/frisco-quilted-water-resistant/dp/170836

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2021, 10:06:27 AM »
Good call! We have a dog hammock in both cars. Nice to prevent ours from falling down the foot well. Mine still dislikes long car rides, but I think its better with the hammock.

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« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2021, 11:27:10 AM »
I recently traveled roundtrip clear across the country (New Hampshire to Florida to California, and then back to New Hampshire).  I was in a camper, so I slept wherever I stopped for the night and didn’t have to think about (or pay for) lodging.  But I did get a good sense of multiweek, long-distance travel.  Personally, I really like the large truck stops, both to sleep at and to take breaks at.  They usually have a section for passenger vehicle travelers, are open 24/7, have restroom and shower facilities, and are well-lit and quite busy (so fairly safe).  They always have food options, too, although not always the healthiest or freshest options.  And they don’t mind if you sleep in your vehicle, in general, as long as you are gone in the morning, but they tend to be so busy that they don’t even care if you stay longer.  Some of the places I’m thinking about are “Flying J,” “Pilot,” and “Love’s.”

I saw people with pets at these places all the time, all over the country, and they just took their pets to the edge of the parking lot, where there is grass.  I don’t recall if these were designated pet areas, but there seemed to be some sort of designated (or at least tolerated/accepted) pet area in most of the truck stops I am recalling.

Note that the big interstate truck stops I am talking about are not the same as normal gas stations at the big intersections.  I am talking about the sorts of stops where truckers go specifically to refuel and rest.  Normal gas stations can be dark and sketchy, so the distinction is important.  I have frankly found this to be true of official rest stops, too.  I never had a sketchy feeling at a trucker’s stop – probably because they are well-lit, busy, and full of truckers.

Other gems to stop at are casinos and Wal-Marts.  They generally let you park overnight – sometimes as long as you want – and they don’t bother you because they assume they will benefit from you stopping at their establishment for food, gambling, or shopping.  They are usually right!  I never stopped at a casino without going inside and looking around and eating something (I don’t gamble, though).  And if I stop at a Wal-Mart, there’s usually something I need inside.  Camping World is a good option, too.  Note that you need permission in advance to stay at a Wal-Mart or a Casino overnight.  Usually they will tell you outright if you just call in advance, and the only impediment is local rules (some towns/cities do not allow overnight parking in public places).

State parks, BLM land, and local parks are good gems for a break, though they sometimes have no amenities to offer.

I avoided driving through cities like the plague, and I never stopped in a city.  In fact, if I had to drive through one, I made sure that both me and my gas tank were full so that I wouldn’t have to stop until I got to another truck stop, casino, or Wal-Mart. 

Frankly, if you’ve got the space in your vehicle and the weather cooperates – and you want to save serious money – you could sleep in your car at all the places I mentioned, get a shower in the morning (at a truck stop), and not pay for lodging, at all.  That is easier in a camper, but plenty of people do it in a car.  Make sure you have blackout or reflective panels for your windows for both light-control and privacy.  Truck stops can be loud at night, but with ear plugs and a sleep mask, it’s not a problem for me.  I felt safe sleeping at a truck stop, but I probably wouldn’t dare sleep in my car in a Wal-Mart parking lot or one of the state rest areas that is open 24/7 (I found them to be poorly-lit and poorly-guarded, in general).

Personally, I would not tent camp alone anywhere where they would let you tent camp alone.  I would want at least my camper walls between me and predators (of the 2- or 4-legged variety) or the elements.  Having a dog would help, but I prefer busy and well-lit areas, despite the noise and light pollution.

To what extent do you plan to “caravan” together with these other folks?  If you are not even sleeping in the same place, what’s the point?  You will depart from different locations and arrive at different locations each day, no?

But, if you are somehow actually caravanning together, and if you and your friends have never caravanned before, I strongly recommend you and your caravan members establish a pattern and a timeline for the trip.  If you both agree to haul it to your destination, then just haul it.  Otherwise, one tried-and-true method (this is assuming your goal is to take your time and avoid stress on the road) is the 2/2/2 or 3/3/3 rule:

1.   Plan to arrive at your destination for the day at 2PM (or 3PM).  This gives you time to get lost, have daylight to navigate, and set up and rest before dinner.  It also gives you time to socialize with your caravan members.
2.   Drive no more than 200 miles (or 300 miles) in a single day.  This ensures you do not become overtired of driving over a period of a week or more.
3.   Take a break at least every 2 (or 3) hours.  Stop, stretch, and have something to drink or snack on.

This means everyone in the caravan resolves to be ready to roll the next morning at 10AM or so.  If you are in different sleeping locations, you can just agree to arrive at the next destination by 3PM the next day.

Good luck on your trip, whatever you decide!

One other thing:  keep in mind that a trip like this asks a lot of your car.  Please make sure it is in tip-top condition and ready for the trip.  Nothing will ruin your trip (or your caravan member’s trip) more than a serious mechanical failure on the open highway at 6PM with a snowstorm coming in.  In fact, that sort of problem could add a week or two to the trip, as well as all the associated headaches and expenses.

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2021, 12:14:35 PM »
If you're considering car camping, definitely test this out first locally. RVparky.com and ioverlander.com can be good resources to scope out potential car camping spots, or book a local campground as a trial run.

I've had good luck sleeping at Cracker Barrels on the road, but always call first to confirm it's ok. Parks with warm showers are much nicer when you have extra time to get away from the highway :)

Window blackout shades (e.g. Weathertech set for your car or DIY) and ventilation/humidity control (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Ryi76fHOc&t=25s ) are key to successful car sleeping. For portable sink, I have this faucet attached to a 3 gallon water jug: https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/240126309

DoneFSO's reminder about car issues is no joke. I have a backup battery/jumper/tire inflater that's saved the day before, and is power source for computer/phone/water heater/etc when car is off, e.g. https://smile.amazon.com/Schumacher-SJ1332-Jump-Starter/dp/B07892JQ1Q/

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2021, 04:17:53 PM »
Yes to all of the above, and also make sure to take several blankets, a warm jacket, gloves & hat. Make sure you can stay warm & hydrated if you should get stranded anywhere.

We have a Garmin Inreach GPS device that allows us to use satellite systems for communication via text and sending an SOS if cell service isn’t available and an emergency were to occur. This may be overkill, unless you plan to drive on remote roads that have extended gaps in cell coverage.

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2021, 06:18:05 PM »
I would definitely think about the weather; don't worry but be prepared. There are no east-west interstates that stay below 5000' through the Rocky Mountain/Continental Divide. I-10 peaks at just above 5000' east of Tucson and it closes because of snow semi-regularly. I-40 is 200 miles north and about 2000' higher in elevation. You will very likely see snow on the side of the road even if the roads end up being clear.

Also if you are going through Flagstaff you will be about an hour south of the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. You should go see it! It's ridiculously amazing.
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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2021, 08:28:29 AM »
If you're getting sleepy, stop.  Frequent stops every few hours for jumping jacks and stretching.  If you need to push on, open the windows and turn off the heat.  The cold will keep you awake.

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« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2021, 03:59:15 PM »
My puppy has done two cross-country road trips with me. She's a "heavy drinker," so after stopping twice to give her water when she started whining in her crate, I bought this bowl, and it has been a huge time-saver. My pup is more comfortable, and I don't have to stop to give her water or have splashes all over the crate/car. It really doesn't splash/spill as long as you don't fill it past the "max" line.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NQ3W7CF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

When she reaches her full size, I'll get a car harness for her. As far as I know, this is the only company that makes crash-tested dog car harnesses. I'm just waiting to see if she's going to go over 75 pounds so I'll know which one to get. I already have a back seat hammock, so when we have the harness, she can graduate from her wire crate to the back seat. My friend had one of these harnesses for her Labradoodle and really liked it.

https://www.kurgo.com/search?query=car%20harness&page=1&configure%5BhitsPerPage%5D=12&tabIndex=0

I also have a much smaller, much older dog who has done tons and tons of road trips with me. She has always ridden in her soft-sided carrier, positioned in the middle of the back seat so that she can see me and have a bit of a view out the windows, too. When she was young, I kept the carrier closed, but as she got older and learned to stay in it (and actually prefers to stay in it), I started just leaving it open so she could see out better. She's not a big drinker, so I just offer her water every time we stop.

Don't forget to have plenty of fun things on hand for your dog to chew or snuggle with or whatever your pup prefers! My girls really like Kongs stuffed with whatever dog-safe bits of fruits and vegetables I have on hand, some dog treats, and topped off with a smear of peanut butter or cream cheese. And my little one requires a mountain of blankets to snooze under. :-)

Oh, another thing that maybe you could rig up to connect to your car's system somehow... my little dog is a heat seeker, so I got her a cat bed that has basically the equivalent of a heating pad inside it. It plugs into an electrical outlet, but there has to be a way to get your car to power it. Just an idea in case your dog loves heat, too, especially since you'll be traveling in December! This is the one we have. It lasted for YEARS before I had to replace the heating pad. If that fails, then maybe just one of those human hand warmer things that you crack to activate? As long as yours isn't a chewer, of course. I've used those on hikes with mine!

https://www.amazon.com/Pet-Products-3191-Thermo-Kitty-Heated/dp/B07HML9YLD/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3KEYC40MEH9ZN&dchild=1&keywords=heated+pet+bed&qid=1635890256&qsid=130-5632330-3052228&s=pet-supplies&sprefix=heated+pet+be%2Cpets%2C102&sr=1-5&sres=B07PFYM5F7%2CB000S9M2U4%2CB09C5JWH38%2CB07HMLTS6B%2CB07HML9YLD%2CB06XF6VH2N%2CB07WDS9C4G%2CB07HNX1WVF%2CB08D9GL7JX%2CB07HMQHC84%2CB07XB6PLRY%2CB07D9N48M2%2CB07XHPRHGJ%2CB07HMVNJC2%2CB001AZLVG6%2CB08FQLB1BG%2CB07HMLDPDK%2CB07JGP75ZX%2CB07PFYLYW8%2CB07YF8TS2D&srpt=PET_BED_MAT

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2021, 04:40:25 PM »
My puppy has done two cross-country road trips with me. She's a "heavy drinker," so after stopping twice to give her water when she started whining in her crate, I bought this bowl, and it has been a huge time-saver. My pup is more comfortable, and I don't have to stop to give her water or have splashes all over the crate/car. It really doesn't splash/spill as long as you don't fill it past the "max" line.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NQ3W7CF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

When she reaches her full size, I'll get a car harness for her. As far as I know, this is the only company that makes crash-tested dog car harnesses. I'm just waiting to see if she's going to go over 75 pounds so I'll know which one to get. I already have a back seat hammock, so when we have the harness, she can graduate from her wire crate to the back seat. My friend had one of these harnesses for her Labradoodle and really liked it.

https://www.kurgo.com/search?query=car%20harness&page=1&configure%5BhitsPerPage%5D=12&tabIndex=0

I also have a much smaller, much older dog who has done tons and tons of road trips with me. She has always ridden in her soft-sided carrier, positioned in the middle of the back seat so that she can see me and have a bit of a view out the windows, too. When she was young, I kept the carrier closed, but as she got older and learned to stay in it (and actually prefers to stay in it), I started just leaving it open so she could see out better. She's not a big drinker, so I just offer her water every time we stop.

Don't forget to have plenty of fun things on hand for your dog to chew or snuggle with or whatever your pup prefers! My girls really like Kongs stuffed with whatever dog-safe bits of fruits and vegetables I have on hand, some dog treats, and topped off with a smear of peanut butter or cream cheese. And my little one requires a mountain of blankets to snooze under. :-)

Oh, another thing that maybe you could rig up to connect to your car's system somehow... my little dog is a heat seeker, so I got her a cat bed that has basically the equivalent of a heating pad inside it. It plugs into an electrical outlet, but there has to be a way to get your car to power it. Just an idea in case your dog loves heat, too, especially since you'll be traveling in December! This is the one we have. It lasted for YEARS before I had to replace the heating pad. If that fails, then maybe just one of those human hand warmer things that you crack to activate? As long as yours isn't a chewer, of course. I've used those on hikes with mine!

https://www.amazon.com/Pet-Products-3191-Thermo-Kitty-Heated/dp/B07HML9YLD/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3KEYC40MEH9ZN&dchild=1&keywords=heated+pet+bed&qid=1635890256&qsid=130-5632330-3052228&s=pet-supplies&sprefix=heated+pet+be%2Cpets%2C102&sr=1-5&sres=B07PFYM5F7%2CB000S9M2U4%2CB09C5JWH38%2CB07HMLTS6B%2CB07HML9YLD%2CB06XF6VH2N%2CB07WDS9C4G%2CB07HNX1WVF%2CB08D9GL7JX%2CB07HMQHC84%2CB07XB6PLRY%2CB07D9N48M2%2CB07XHPRHGJ%2CB07HMVNJC2%2CB001AZLVG6%2CB08FQLB1BG%2CB07HMLDPDK%2CB07JGP75ZX%2CB07PFYLYW8%2CB07YF8TS2D&srpt=PET_BED_MAT

A human hot water bottle, filled with boiling water (via an in-room coffee pot, perhaps) at the hotel and then wrapped in a heavy blanket will stay warm for several hours, or more.  That might be an easier option for your pups for the next trip.

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2021, 05:22:27 PM »
Thought of one other thing... since you mentioned "anxious dog traveling," if you're not already doing so, start doing small trips with your dog. If it's really bad, just drive down the driveway or down the block and go right back home. Lengthen the trips as your dog gets more comfortable. Same with teaching your dog to be fine with staying in the car alone for short periods. Start by standing outside the car while your dog is in it, then go where your dog can't see you for 30 seconds, and increase from there. Then start varying the length of the outing and the length of time you're gone. If your dog can tolerate eating in a moving vehicle, reserving a special treat just for the car is also helpful. Or if your dog is into toys, reserve a special toy for the car.

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2021, 05:59:30 PM »
I bought this bowl, and it has been a huge time-saver.

my little dog is a heat seeker


I was wondering how pets drink while in the car.  Mine tends to do nothing -- won't even take a treat in the car.  I did buy that seat hammock, but that freaks him out too.  So I'm using it to store things UNDER so my stuff won't be visible when parked. 

Dog is a winter dog and hates being hot.  Still, I will bring a bunch of his blankets so he can burrow or lay on top of as he pleases. 

If you're getting sleepy, stop.  Frequent stops every few hours for jumping jacks and stretching.  If you need to push on, open the windows and turn off the heat.  The cold will keep you awake.
I'm a big baby when it comes to sleep, so I'm pretty sure when I get tired I'll find a way to pull over and rest for 10-15 minutes, then walk the dog as a wake up.

I would definitely think about the weather; don't worry but be prepared. There are no east-west interstates that stay below 5000' through the Rocky Mountain/Continental Divide. I-10 peaks at just above 5000' east of Tucson and it closes because of snow semi-regularly. I-40 is 200 miles north and about 2000' higher in elevation. You will very likely see snow on the side of the road even if the roads end up being clear.

Also if you are going through Flagstaff you will be about an hour south of the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. You should go see it! It's ridiculously amazing.
Thanks for the tips on the weather.  I'll have a "winter kit" in my car with blankets, winter coat, boots, etc. But I really don't want to have to need any "emergency supplies" and don't want to end up on the news being found "totally unprepared".  Or like the Donner Party.
If you're considering car camping, definitely test this out first locally. RVparky.com and ioverlander.com can be good resources to scope out potential car camping spots, or book a local campground as a trial run.

Will look into this before my return trip. Thanks!

I have this small booster seat, which I keep in the front seat
https://www.chewy.com/kh-pet-products-bucket-booster-pet/dp/46569?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=hg&utm_content=K%26H%20Pet%20Products&utm_term=&show-search=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjww4OMBhCUARIsAILndv7LSvTk5O50bMpl3VCK9Z0sEWyYPAbpJwrHCy3M7zMgvDDwX2envykaAjg1EALw_wcB

and this larger one.  This one was better in the back seat, but I honestly missed being able to pet him while driving.  I'm bringing this out west and will probably leave it there for my brother's dog unless my dog suddenly starts liking it (doubtful)



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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2021, 07:31:31 PM »
I bought this bowl, and it has been a huge time-saver.

my little dog is a heat seeker


I was wondering how pets drink while in the car.  Mine tends to do nothing -- won't even take a treat in the car.  I did buy that seat hammock, but that freaks him out too.  So I'm using it to store things UNDER so my stuff won't be visible when parked. 

Dog is a winter dog and hates being hot.  Still, I will bring a bunch of his blankets so he can burrow or lay on top of as he pleases. 


My dog is also a winter dog. He doesn't like blankets, but if it's cold outside and you get stranded, it might be nice for him.

Mine also doesn't drink while in the car, but we always offer him water before he gets in. Sometimes he's not interested, but mostly after a walk he's very happy to drink some water. Also it delays his having to get back into the car time, which he approves of.

PS this is my favorite dog bowl for bringing on hikes or tossing into the car - it's soft, foldable and easy to zip up - https://www.chewy.com/alfie-pet-collapsible-fabric-travel/dp/137474

Not to be left open on the backseat while driving though... but before/after drives.

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« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2021, 06:36:01 AM »
For water, I just use a plastic food container with lid that fits in the front cup holder. We all drink when we stop (usually they're too excited when we first stop but getting back in the car they'll drink). Establishing a routine for this can help.

Food also I use small plastic container with lid for travel food bowl, I can't stand the smell in a confined space. Love seeing all the tips/products!

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2021, 04:16:07 PM »
I second all the ideas above (cruise control x1000, snacks, podcasts) and can add some info about the 40 in NM and AZ:

- It definitely goes through high elevation areas (higher than Denver) so be prepared for winter conditions. Nice work on already having an emergency kit, I'd suggest reviewing the links below for a few more items.
https://azdot.gov/adot-blog/driving-safety-home-you-go-know-snow
https://focusondriving.com/know-snow

- Be aware of how long it is until the next town/facilities. The West is expansive. Growing up here I didn't really understand how different it is, it's just automatic to fill up the gas once it gets below half full. It's not dangerous, you just won't be able to walk to a farm house if you get in a pickle.

- AZ DOT is a good source for instant road conditions. I don't have a twitter but you can view their page w/o an account.
https://twitter.com/ArizonaDOT
https://az511.gov/

- Fun: There's a Signing Road right outside of Albuquerque, it's a great little detour.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g47231-d9454048-Reviews-Singing_Road-Tijeras_New_Mexico.html



Enjoy! You'll be driving through some beautiful places.






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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2021, 10:52:43 AM »
These tips are amazingly good.  So many things I hadn't thought of.  I have spent so much money trying to make this little doggie comfortable.  He's gonna be the most spoiled little guy on the planet and I'm not unhappy about that.  I'm still trying to find some really high-value treats to have available at all times.  I'm probably going to have some chicken and cheese in my cooler just for him. 

I am a bit concerned about the elevation and resulting possible winter conditions in some places, so I will not rush on my return trip and will check weather every day.  I'm taking winter boots, coat, blankets, energy bars, water carrier, etc.  Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I'll even throw one of my "survival handbooks" in the back. 

So far on my return trip, I am definitely going through the Petrified Forest and the Singing Road. 

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2021, 10:58:51 AM »
For those that say to bring kitty litter -- what type?  Clumping litter? 
And do I really need a shovel?  That's the one thing that I really am resisting buying. 

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2021, 12:48:19 PM »
A shorter shovel could be extremely helpful if you find yourself needing to remove snow from around your tires. Don’t recall if someone else posted this (I’m sure they did), but make sure you have tire chains with you. Numerous mountain passes require you to have them this time of year, even if they are just in the back of your car. We’re in Oregon and it’s a requirement for many of the passes near us.

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2021, 05:39:28 PM »
I'm still trying to find some really high-value treats to have available at all times.  I'm probably going to have some chicken and cheese in my cooler just for him.

Those are good ideas, and probably cheaper than what I'm about to say, but just in case this helps... I went looking for a high-value treat that isn't chicken or cheese because my dog's kibble is made of chicken, so I wanted to give her some variety, and I read that a lot of dogs don't tolerate cheese well, especially in larger amounts. So I buy a roll of slice 'n' serve dog food, cut off a slice, and cut it into teeny pieces, like 1cm cubes or smaller. Here's a random photo I found of one of them, but they come in all sorts of "flavors," and some of them are around $5 for a pound, which is cheaper than any other pre-made treats I've seen. My dog loves them, and they've been really helpful for training!

https://giantfood.com/groceries/pet-store/dog-food/freshpet-select-dog-food-chunky-beef-recipe-slice-serve-6-lb-pkg.html

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Re: Traveling cross country. Any advice?
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2021, 02:11:11 AM »
Lots of good tips so far. Another one is to check out Atlas Obscura. Cool directory of neat things to do along the way.