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sideways

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Follow up to "high paying corporate job or exciting startup"
« on: February 23, 2014, 04:04:01 PM »
This is a follow up to the post https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/high-paying-corporate-job-or-exciting-startup-please-help-me-choose!, wherein I detailed my wonderful "problem" of choosing between a startup and Google.

To recap, I had a strong software engineering offer from a startup in an exciting field. I was expecting a higher offer from Google, but I worried Google would stick me doing something I hated. I weighed seizing an exciting opportunity against deferring my happiness for an earlier retirement.

Since I wrote that, the Google offer came, and it was even better than I anticipated. (I am uncomfortable posting the numbers here, but I'll share them over PM - just ask.) However I still felt uneasy about its blind allocation policy. What if I hated the work?

So, before accepting the offer, I spoke to the recruiter. I told her it is important to me to work in an area whose products I personally like, and what those areas are. She arranged a phone conversation with the manager for the team into which I was slotted. This confirmed my fears: it was an ads team, a field I had no interest in! Ugh! So I told the recruiter that it wasn't a good fit, and what areas might be better. She then arranged phone chats with four more Google managers that were also interested in me. I learned about the teams, the work I would be doing, etc.

This was fantastic! Now instead of a single nebulous "work for Google" offer, I had four concrete offers, where I knew exactly what team and products I would work on. And one of the teams was in Google's consumer electronics division, a field quite similar to the startup!

So I accepted the Google offer, with the understanding they would place me in that team. While I've heard stories about engineers getting a bait-and-switch, in my case it worked out just like I was promised. I got to join that team, working on consumer electronics, and I'm thrilled with my decision.

So I took my problem, pushed a little, and fell right through. It was illusory! To try to distill my experiences, here are some lessons I learned:

  • Reject false dilemmas. Life decisions often involves tradeoffs, but examine them closely. Some tradeoffs may be a construct of your own assumptions.
  • If it seems too poetic to be true, it probably is. "Exciting startup vs soul crushing corporate job?" I cringe to re-reread that: clearly I had worked out a narrative in my head, and allowed it to bias me.
  • Negotiate, especially at points of high leverage. Negotiating makes me highly uncomfortable, but a few minutes of squirming made all the difference.

Thanks for reading, and I hope my experiences help you in your own choices. I'll be glad to answer any questions here or over PM.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2014, 04:29:33 PM by sideways »

JPinDC

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Re: Follow up to "high paying corporate job or exciting startup"
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2014, 06:03:57 PM »
Congratulations! I remember reading your earlier post and am glad to hear the outcome and your tips. I checked out a library book called Negotiating Your Salary by Jack Chapman when I was interviewing for my last job and it really helped with the confidence to try negotiating, which worked for me too!

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Re: Follow up to "high paying corporate job or exciting startup"
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2014, 07:23:43 PM »
That sounds excellent. Good for you! Those lessons are great takeaways. I agree that not every choice is a dilemma, especially if one looks carefully at it.

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Re: Follow up to "high paying corporate job or exciting startup"
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 07:28:36 PM »
Asking got you so far in this situation. This is the kind of happily ever after that is wonderful to read! Congratulations on getting the sort of job that you wanted.

 

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