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Thru Hiking and Early Retirement
« on: August 16, 2017, 07:27:13 AM »
Any other long distance hikers out there? I've been grappling with whether to leave work to thru hike the Pacific Crest Trail in the next couple years, or wait until retirement. By my estimates, the cost of the hike itself + missed income + missed investment returns on that income would set my FIRE date back AT LEAST 12 months (probably more).

There’s also a mental cost. I’ve thru hiked the Appalachian Trail and being out in the woods that long seemed to change my brain chemistry. It took a few months to tolerate the idea of 9-5 work and a few more difficult months on the job to really get into the swing of working and not have urges to abandon ship. So I’m reluctant to have to go through that again.

My FIRE date is ~8 years away. I worry the trail may suffer due to overcrowding and legislation changes by that point. There is also the possibility I will have taken on enough responsibilities (home, kids, pets) to make the trip impractical. I fear I may forget/lose the feeling of the experience and not remember why it was worthwhile or be too dependent on civilized conveniences to take the plunge.

Does anyone have experience on pulling the trigger on a sabbatical like this?

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2017, 07:33:40 AM »
My wife and I thru-hiked the PCT in 2013 after quitting our engineering jobs. No regrets on missed income/returns. We didn't have any concept of FIRE before the hike. After the hike, we started biking to our new jobs, and learned about (and got more serious about) FIRE because we loved how simple our lives were on the trail, and being outside.

I setup a blog for some hikers this year and apparently it was a big snow year on the PCT. Maybe that'll but a damper on the numbers for the next few years. There's always the Continental Divide Trail if you want to be alone!

Our plan now is to fire in ~10 years, and take DD on a thru-hike when she's a teenager.

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2017, 08:07:14 AM »
We pulled the trigger for FIRE, not a sabbatical, and left the next day on an epic 6-month campervan trip in northern Australia. Now we're in Europe on a trip for 5 weeks.

The Pacific Crest Trail seems epic as well - therefore I suggest you do it. Nothing epic will be regretted in my opinion.

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2017, 08:33:46 AM »
Any other long distance hikers out there? I've been grappling with whether to leave work to thru hike the Pacific Crest Trail in the next couple years, or wait until retirement. By my estimates, the cost of the hike itself + missed income + missed investment returns on that income would set my FIRE date back AT LEAST 12 months (probably more).

There’s also a mental cost. I’ve thru hiked the Appalachian Trail and being out in the woods that long seemed to change my brain chemistry. It took a few months to tolerate the idea of 9-5 work and a few more difficult months on the job to really get into the swing of working and not have urges to abandon ship. So I’m reluctant to have to go through that again.

My FIRE date is ~8 years away. I worry the trail may suffer due to overcrowding and legislation changes by that point. There is also the possibility I will have taken on enough responsibilities (home, kids, pets) to make the trip impractical. I fear I may forget/lose the feeling of the experience and not remember why it was worthwhile or be too dependent on civilized conveniences to take the plunge.

Does anyone have experience on pulling the trigger on a sabbatical like this?

I backpack but not thru-hike.  Sounds like you should wait on the next through hike given the financial set-back + mental readjustment needed.  Ultimately you have to make a judgement call on whether you want to thru hike the PCT while 10 years younger, or retire >1+ sooner in addition to any effects the adjustments will have.  For me, the mental component would be a larger concern; I already have trouble re-accepting my work life after a 2 week vacation; several months is hard to imagine unless you love your job.

However, if you think kids/pets will be a factor in 10 years, then you have no choice but to do it now or probably never do it.  Barring some exceptional circumstances, I think it would be pretty terrible to leave behind your young children for that long in order to pursue leisure.

I have lightly pondered a thru hike, but don't yet have the passion to commit to that long of a distance.  I have read about overcrowding as a result of documentaries sparking interest in thru hikes... but in practice I find these trails are not too bad.  Yes, the trails are becoming more crowded, but they are still not THAT crowded.  The other reality is that by thru-hiking you are contributing to the crowding.  Unfortunately we all must share what protected nature remains in this world.

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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2017, 09:33:14 AM »
I hiked the PCT in 2005 and the CDT in 2008. I'd like to do another long hike in a couple of years. Thru-hiking definitely influenced my perspective on work, life, and how I want to spend my money and time in the future.

This blog post might be of interest as you figure out how to make your decision: https://livingafi.com/2015/08/04/taking-a-gap-year/

Are you considering asking for a leave of absence from your job, or are you planning to quit? My employer (software company) gave me a six-month unpaid leave in 2005 and another six-month unpaid leave in 2008.

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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2017, 11:20:11 AM »
You say that the PCT will push back FIRE by at least 12 months. But what do you plan to FIRE for? Is it so you can go do things like this? Well, it sounds like you already have the ability to take time to go do things like this!

If you know you can do the hike now, do it.  You have no idea the condition of your body when you FIRE will be. The difference of 8 years and 9 years is pretty minimal when weighing something like this.

I missed a chance to section hike a large part of the AT in 2000 when I had to cancel to attend a funeral.  My knees and hips have since had major injuries and I can't backpack anymore. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2017, 11:37:52 AM »
My wife and I thru-hiked the PCT in 2013 after quitting our engineering jobs. No regrets on missed income/returns. We didn't have any concept of FIRE before the hike. After the hike, we started biking to our new jobs, and learned about (and got more serious about) FIRE because we loved how simple our lives were on the trail, and being outside.

I setup a blog for some hikers this year and apparently it was a big snow year on the PCT. Maybe that'll but a damper on the numbers for the next few years. There's always the Continental Divide Trail if you want to be alone!

Our plan now is to fire in ~10 years, and take DD on a thru-hike when she's a teenager.
Did you finish?  I started to binge-read a blog of a woman who thru-hiked the PCT that year.  Then I caught up to her blog.  It was my favorite part of the day.

But it was an early snow that year.  She was forced off the trail.  Decided to finish on the roads and then cut in at the last minute.  And then the federal government shut down and she wasn't able to get through the area (National Park?)  Had to stop 60 miles short (went back a couple years later to do that section).

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Re: Thru Hiking and Early Retirement
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2017, 11:59:52 AM »
I hiked the PCT in 2005 and the CDT in 2008. I'd like to do another long hike in a couple of years. Thru-hiking definitely influenced my perspective on work, life, and how I want to spend my money and time in the future.

This blog post might be of interest as you figure out how to make your decision: https://livingafi.com/2015/08/04/taking-a-gap-year/

Are you considering asking for a leave of absence from your job, or are you planning to quit? My employer (software company) gave me a six-month unpaid leave in 2005 and another six-month unpaid leave in 2008.

This was a great read! I would attempt to take unpaid leave if available, but I'm not sure it'd be an option.

Another consideration is employability with a second gap in employment. I'm only two years into the workforce (programmer) and took a gap for the Appalachian trail after college. I'm not sure what a reasonable amount of time is to work before the next gap.

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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2017, 12:23:13 PM »
Twenty years ago I used to do a lot of backpacking, and climbing and was in love with the idea of doing the AT.  Life and other interests has taken me away from backpacking, and then last week a AT thru hiking video showed up on my youtube main page.  Kind of scary how well google knows what I am interested in before I do! 

My girl watched The Way(movie) a few years ago and really wants to walk the Camino de Santiago.  So I have been thinking about this and the AT a lot lately.  Like you I am conflicted about balance my FIRE goals and YOLO.  I don't think returning to work would be an issue for me after the AT but the lost earns for ~6 months would set back the FIRE date.  I also have a slight issue with my knee that might become real issue with all the elevation changes.  For these two reasons the Camino might be more realistic option for us now as it is much shorter, and you can sleep in hostel every night.

I would love to hear more about how other MMMers think about these decisions on balancing FIRED and YOLO?

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2017, 02:00:06 PM »
Twenty years ago I used to do a lot of backpacking, and climbing and was in love with the idea of doing the AT.  Life and other interests has taken me away from backpacking, and then last week a AT thru hiking video showed up on my youtube main page.  Kind of scary how well google knows what I am interested in before I do! 

My girl watched The Way(movie) a few years ago and really wants to walk the Camino de Santiago.  So I have been thinking about this and the AT a lot lately.  Like you I am conflicted about balance my FIRE goals and YOLO.  I don't think returning to work would be an issue for me after the AT but the lost earns for ~6 months would set back the FIRE date.  I also have a slight issue with my knee that might become real issue with all the elevation changes.  For these two reasons the Camino might be more realistic option for us now as it is much shorter, and you can sleep in hostel every night.

I would love to hear more about how other MMMers think about these decisions on balancing FIRED and YOLO?

I think it's totally a personality thing.  I'm a boring, work, FIRE person.

I admire my friends who are YOLOs.  Think:
- take a year off to go to Nicaragua
- take a year off to travel to South America and work for Peace Corps
- take a year off, pull the kids from school, and live in Costa Rica
- save money for 5 years, then quit your jobs, and take the kids on a year long vacation to Africa and Southeast Asia (these people did this year of traveling MANY times pre-kid)
- buy an RV, travel around the US (pull kids from school) for a year
- find/ choose/ a more flexible job, or form your own company/ consultancy and
 -- spend all summer driving around the US in a camper van, visiting national parks
 -- spend all summer traveling around Europe
--  that's 2 different people there.

On one hand, I think "my kids hate travel, you are so lucky!"  But some of my friends say that their kids don't love it either, they just do it anyway.

On the other hand, my big kid does get super carsick.  So there's that.

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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2017, 02:11:34 PM »
I would love to thru hike the PCT or AT. I plan on waiting until I FIRE to do so. Either way I need to get more camping and hiking experience and as I live in Minnesota I should start with doing part or all of the Superior Hiking Trail which is about 240 miles.

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2017, 01:50:06 AM »
I only get short backpacking trips due to work and living in Louisiana.   I'm headed to the AT Friday for the eclipse.   I'm hoping to thru hike the AT in 2019.  I am making a lot of money right now and hate to quit.  Life is however for living.

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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2017, 04:53:59 AM »
If you worry about the trail being not there anymore when you FIRE, than there is a good reason to do it now. You never know what happens in 8 years with your health, with the trail and with the world. Another option is to do it in chunks of a few weeks over the next years. That is very different, but then you can use your summer vacations for it.

I would like to hike Norway in length some day (2500 km in a straight line). But that will have to wait until FIRE in a couple of years. My FIRE is closer than yours and I cannot wait to break free. We did however take a 13 week sabbatical once for many years ago, that we spend on many trips and on renovating the bathroom and that was great. Working after that wasn't extremely difficult, as it was not a thru hike, just a shorter hike and other trips to different places. That sabbatical cost my 2 netto months salary + 10 years of compounding. My DH could use up his overtime hours.

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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2017, 05:40:43 AM »
I'm definitely in the "Do it now!" Camp, but only if the PCT thruhike is the dream burning in your mind. If you have done an AT thruhike, you should be familiar with focusing this passion. If FIRE is the real passion, and another thruhike is an expression of that passion, then do FIRE first... maybe...

Remember those week-long slogs in the rain? Remember how your friends & family must have been exhausted from hearing every little detail of your hike, but supported your dream? Remember how the fear of telling them you just "quit" drove you on at times? You need that level of passion and focus to make it to Kennedy Meadows through the desert!

Given the ability of life to derail our big dreams with the randomness of major illness and injury, I chose to "Seize the day!" My perspective was different from most since a long life was not a given for me due to having cancer in my early 20s. Statistics for survival to age 50 didn't looks all that good for my particular cancer, but I had a new treatment protocol. (I'm mid 50s now, and hoping for 90+ with excellent health.)

My employer gave me a 6 month leave of absence AND PAID FULL BENEFITS for my first AT thruhike. My second AT thruhike occurred a few years later when I received a nice severance package from another small startup. A few years later, I gave "2 Years Notice," that I would be leaving to hike the PCT (and later the CDT). (I outlasted the management team, and my notice actually saved a coworker in a layoff.)

Definitely consider the cultural fit on the Trail. While the PCT isn't as social as the AT, you will still find the interactions and shared suffering with fellow hikers a source of encouragement and entertainment. The hikers tend to be either under 30 or over 60. I always felt a bit out of place in my mid 30s and early 40s, even though I was often assumed to be a decade younger. (This is one of the few pleasant social side effects of being short -- we are often thought to not have grown up, yet!)

I realized there were time windows in my life that let me disappear for 5 - 6 months, maintain health insurance (pre-ACA), and sometimes provided financial benefits. Shortly after my CDT hike, my parents health went into sharp decline. The window for disappearing for 6 months has now been closed for most of the past decade. My adventures take new forms, and I regularly disappear into the mountains for about 4 weeks a year.

I had always said I was on the "many mini retirements plan," but later decided "retire early, retire often" better explained my way of wandering through life. in tech I have found a niche as someone who isn't afraid to take a risk. With the ACA I don't have to be tied to a W2 paycheck, and can now work contract if something interesting or fun comes along.

My primary goal has never been FIRE, but rather to manage my financial life to serve living. This resulted in the same frugal habits with wise investing. About 4 years ago I realized I could truly be financially independent with a few tweaks.  Tweaks have been made.


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Re: Thru Hiking and Early Retirement
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2017, 01:41:54 PM »
Life advice from dying patients...

"..."If you have something which is truly important to you, do it while you can."

https://www.reddit.com/r/financialindependence/comments/6u8uz1/life_advice_from_dying_patients/

Best wishes, ap.

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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2017, 03:31:20 PM »
I'm another vote for mini-retirements.  I've had two (20 months & 3 months) in my early 30s and 40s.  Now I'm 44 and still working but part time so I take 2 trips x 2 months a a year and I like it.   

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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2017, 12:55:49 PM »
I am only starting to pick up backpacking after early FIRE, now that I am 45.  So, it is possible to do later in life.  Before I was 40, I had only ever backpacked twice (and canoe tripped a few times).

The issues are what others have noted.  Whether kids, or elderly parents, or a spouse who needs help, or a volunteer commitment, or a house, it can be hard to find 6 months at a stretch to just "go".   My youngest is 15 now, and I could definitely see getting time once he is 18, if I wanted to do this before I was 50.

The second issue that I see with others on trail, is back and knee problems that are fine for a day hike, but would flare up with an extended stretch, as you age. This is real, and affects about 30% of people.  However, other stress health issues seem to go away the more backpacking I do, so YMMV. 

My two cents is that if you have a life goal of PCT (or something similar), you should do it as soon as you can clear up 6 months.  Don't worry about the money or need to work 1-2 more years.  That issue can be dealt with in so many other ways.  And yes, this is directly opposite of my typical advice to people asking if they should travel before kids.  Why?  The knee / back issue and complete isolation from family and friends involved in PCT.  There is a reason people under 30 and over 60 are there!

Also, who is to say that you won't want to do a second (or third) trip like this as you get older?

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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2017, 06:52:50 PM »
The second issue that I see with others on trail, is back and knee problems that are fine for a day hike, but would flare up with an extended stretch, as you age. This is real, and affects about 30% of people.  However, other stress health issues seem to go away the more backpacking I do, so YMMV. 

Goldielocks: You should definitely look into lightweight or ultralight backpacking. WARNING: It can be something of a religion or "pursuit in itself" rather than a means to extend the life of knees & feet!

I still hike 20-25 mile days in my mid-50s with my lightweight kit (pack is 12 lbs / 5.5 kg plus food, fuel & water). It is mostly "conventional" using lighter weight gear and leaving a bunch of extra stuff at home. I prioritize my on-trail comfort over camp luxuries, but I rarely feel that I need anything more.

The ultralighters (under 10 lbs / 4.5kg) use a bit more specialized gear sometimes made of exotic materials ("unobtainuim" as far as I am concerned).

Just remember "Pounds are cheap. Ounces will cost you."

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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2017, 07:14:13 PM »
I have been waiting 9 years for my AT thru hike and have another 6 to go. I am waiting for my son to graduate high school before I go. If you see kids in your future, go now.

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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2017, 09:46:51 PM »
Sounds like a tough call. I'm in the seize-your-chance-and-take-long-adventurous-vacations-when-you-can camp, but then again I've had flexible work situations that allowed more than one 3-month vacation in the past decade. I'm pregnant now but I have hiked, trekked, climbed, and bike toured all over the world.. I am SO glad to have spent my 20s adventuring. It's a part of me and I'll never lose those experiences. To me, experiences are the most valuable thing in life. I know I'll remain active when I have kids, but it won't be the same. We'll do family adventures, I'll get away on the occasional trip of my own, and hopefully my kids will like the outdoors. When they're grown, I'll be in my mid 50s. I'll still be able to go on trips, but you never know what life will bring. Maybe I won't be as energetic, or I'll have an injury.

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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2017, 12:42:52 PM »
Being able to walk away from everything for 6 months is very challenging logistically, as I'm sure you know since you've done it once already. I attempted a thru-hike of the AT last summer and ended up needed to come off the trail. It was difficult for me to know what I should have done because I was in the middle of Maine (SOBO) with no way to talk to anyone for advice. In hindsight, I wish I wouldn't have been so quick to make a decision because I didn't truly realize how rare the opportunity was that I was able to put everything together and expect to be gone for six months. Not knowing what kind of health I'll be in in my 50's, maybe that was my only really good shot, as timing goes. I would be in the "take the opportunity where you can" camp, because a journey like that is probably one of the most difficult to fit into life and everything that goes on around you.

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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2017, 11:57:56 PM »
The second issue that I see with others on trail, is back and knee problems that are fine for a day hike, but would flare up with an extended stretch, as you age. This is real, and affects about 30% of people.  However, other stress health issues seem to go away the more backpacking I do, so YMMV. 

Goldielocks: You should definitely look into lightweight or ultralight backpacking. WARNING: It can be something of a religion or "pursuit in itself" rather than a means to extend the life of knees & feet!

I still hike 20-25 mile days in my mid-50s with my lightweight kit (pack is 12 lbs / 5.5 kg plus food, fuel & water). It is mostly "conventional" using lighter weight gear and leaving a bunch of extra stuff at home. I prioritize my on-trail comfort over camp luxuries, but I rarely feel that I need anything more.

The ultralighters (under 10 lbs / 4.5kg) use a bit more specialized gear sometimes made of exotic materials ("unobtainuim" as far as I am concerned).

Just remember "Pounds are cheap. Ounces will cost you."
I am already there!   two years into slowly acquiring lighter gear through christmas and birthday presents.   I think my base weight is about 18 lbs, plus food and water, but maybe more if rain is expected.  Honestly, it is the only reason I am backpacking after my early over laden attempts  20 years ago.  (50 lb plus packs)

I will be testing out my latest pack and gear later this week, so will weight it then.  I hope my 2lb pack will make a difference!
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2017, 12:05:35 PM »
I am another vote for doing it now, if you don't yet have kids and see them potentially in your future. Mine are 5, 7, 16. I've wanted to hike the PCT for years, but will be waiting until my youngest is through high school (we'll definitely be FIRE by then, worst case, although we plan it to be sooner most likely). So, 2031 is my year. We've done sections in the meantime. I never had a window in which to do it, since I got pregnant with my first my senior year of college. If I'd had a period of time without kids in the mix, I would already have done it. In a few years we're planning to take the little kids to hike the Wonderland Trail in Mt. Rainier. I worry about the crowds but I'm not ready to take them quite yet, although I know there are people who've taken younger kids to do it.

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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2017, 11:33:27 AM »
I am another vote for doing it now, if you don't yet have kids and see them potentially in your future. Mine are 5, 7, 16. I've wanted to hike the PCT for years, but will be waiting until my youngest is through high school (we'll definitely be FIRE by then, worst case, although we plan it to be sooner most likely). So, 2031 is my year. We've done sections in the meantime. I never had a window in which to do it, since I got pregnant with my first my senior year of college. If I'd had a period of time without kids in the mix, I would already have done it. In a few years we're planning to take the little kids to hike the Wonderland Trail in Mt. Rainier. I worry about the crowds but I'm not ready to take them quite yet, although I know there are people who've taken younger kids to do it.

Hey FireHiker, I just did a long hike with my kids (100 mile +) who are elementary school aged.  I'm interested in your comment on the Wonderland Trail.  It looks fantastic!  What age were your friend's kids when they did the trail.  I'm guessing since it's high alpine it gets cold at night so you would want to have a really decent sleeping bag.  And yes, from my little bit of research it seems really popular and busy.

The wonderland trail with my daughter, when she is old enough, is on my bucket list. I don't see crowds as an issue because of the reservation system that is required.

PTC after retirement/FIRE when my daughter is in college is another. I can only hope I'll be healthy enough and strong enough to do the journey. Or maybe I will section hike.

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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2017, 12:03:02 PM »
It actually isn't someone I know personally who hiked Wonderland with kids. A few years ago I was really missing the backpacking we used to do and started looking up "backpacking with kids." I came across a youtube video about this family who hiked it with their 4 kids, and it really made me rethink the whole thing and wonder why we hadn't just gone with kids anyway. Their kids were 2, 4, 6, and 8 the first time.

We've taken our kids on a few trips: Olympics (visiting relatives up there), Sequoia, Joshua Tree. We were out of vacation time unfortunately so didn't do anything this summer, but next year I'd like to take them to do a trip in the sierra's (near Mammoth), and hopefully we'll go back out to the desert again this fall. For the first two (Olympics: Camp Handy, and Sequoia: Redwood Canyon specifically) they were 3, 5, and 14. Joshua Tree the teenager wasn't with us, and the little kids were 4 and 6.

As far as gear goes, our kids have their own packs (REI) and sleeping bags (Marmot). We have used an REI quarter dome 3 person tent for my husband, myself, and the two little kids, and my teenager has his own 2 person tent from his brief foray in Boy Scouts. I think we'll move one kid in with the teenager next time we go, because the 3 person was getting cramped in Joshua Tree last year.

As for crowds on the Wonderland Trail, it isn't so much the crowd while hiking as the difficulty in obtaining the permit that concerns me, as it has become more and more popular. We were at Mt. Rainier two years ago, on a sunny Saturday as it turned out, and even though we got there very early it was insanely crowded everywhere.

Fire_at_45, where did you take your kids on the 100+ mile hike? I'd love to hear suggestions on trips with kids. Some high school friends of mine just took their kids on a 5 day trip in the Sierra's.

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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2017, 02:19:48 PM »
Fire_at_45, where did you take your kids on the 100+ mile hike? I'd love to hear suggestions on trips with kids. Some high school friends of mine just took their kids on a 5 day trip in the Sierra's.

We hiked the Sunshine Coast Trail which is located near Powell River, BC.  It's great because it is hut-to-hut so you can go minimal. 

http://sunshinecoast-trail.com/

It's a great trail that winds it way from the ocean, through forest (and clear cut areas), past many lakes, up 2 mountains and back to the ocean.  We had a fantastic time. 

It looked like the permit for The Wonderland Trail was tricky as it said something about a lottery.  I'll have to look into it more because it's accessible from Vancouver, BC.

Thanks, I'm going to bookmark that! When my oldest is in college in two years, we'll have plenty of vacation time and we'll be looking for longer road trips with backpacking. That sounds perfect.

Yes, I believe there is a lottery now for Wonderland. Just like there is for so many of the popular ones these days (Half Dome, Whitney). We'll get in eventually if we're flexible with starting dates/locations, I'm sure.

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Re: Thru Hiking and Early Retirement
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2017, 05:10:52 PM »
Posting to follow.  FIREing in two years, and a loooong hike is definitely on my list.  Possibly a big section of the AT, not sure yet.  DS will be 13 when I FIRE.  If he's still speaking to me, I'd love to do it together. :)

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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2017, 05:21:17 PM »
Update -- I took my new pack configuration on a short overnight local hike yesterday.   It was 12 lbs for the base weight, plus food and water.   Amazing. With only a day of food, and water, that was likely 16 lbs total.  I do note that on a longer hike, I would pack an extra pair of socks, bug spray, sunscreen and my rain gear...   One day on a dry warm (for us) night?  Awesome! Such a difference.  That was the second time ever that I did not have rain, and it stayed above 11'C (54'F).  Now, I think my poles and headlamp are the next items to reduce weight on.... never ends, does it?.

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Re: Thru Hiking and Early Retirement
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2017, 06:09:49 PM »
I follow a blog of a man who is currently hiking the AT and hiked the PCT and CDT in the past few years.  He also biked through Mexico recently.  He has a gear list he updates after each adventure which is very handy.  I hiked 250 miles of the Camino de Santiago this April and used his list to help decide on some of my gear.

His website is bikehikesafari.com