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Title: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 15, 2020, 06:33:43 AM
My current BBQ is on it’s last legs.  When I moved into my current home almost 4 years ago the previous owner left their 10-15 year old Fiesta BBQ on the deck.  I’ve been using it since then but it is progressively falling apart, although it still works.  So I have started looking into getting a new BBQ for myself.  The one I really want costs $1000, but as a frugal person by nature, I am having trouble justifying spending $1000 on a BBQ.  I do however have no problem paying a premium price if I am getting good value and the product will last me a long time.  I BBQ a few times a week during the spring/summer/fall months, But I’m not a hard-core griller; I mostly grill burgers, hot dogs, chicken and the occasional steak.  Here are the BBQ’s I am considering:

Weber Genesis II 330 from Costco.  Cost is $1000.  It comes with stainless steel grill grates and an extra layer of steel in the BBQ box for added durability and to keep the warmth inside.  It also has a more premium stainless steel handle.  Other features it has that I may or may not use are a snide burner and a searing station. 

Weber Spirit from Home Depot.  Cost is $650.  No stainless steel grill grates but those can be purchased for an additional $130.  Only one layer of steel in the BBQ box and the handle looks durable, but is plastic.  No side burner or searing station.

Other BBQ’s I’m looking at in the $300-600 range are a Broil King Signet 320 and Broil Bing Baron which costs around $580, and Broilmate/Sterling BBQ’s in the $300-400 range. 

Now I’ve heard Weber’s quality has gone down in recent years due to them being bought by a private equity firm, so they are no longer the “tanks’ they used to be from 10 years ago.  Many of their BBQ’s are now made in China.  So I would be upset if I paid $1000 and did not get a good 10 years out of it. 

So what would you do in this scenario and why?  I really, really love the $1000 Weber Genesis, but I would be sad if I spent all that money and it was a disappointment.  Should I pony up and get the Genesis?  Do the mid range option of the Weber Spirit/Broil King?  Or a cheaper $300-400 grill?  Very tough decision so I’d appreciate your thoughts. 
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: YttriumNitrate on June 15, 2020, 07:53:52 AM
A few years back, I was in the market for a new grill since my new house has an outdoor natural gas line. Like you mentioned in your post, the older Weber's are tanks, so that's what I got. I had Craigslist alert me anytime someone posted a Weber natural gas grill nearby. Within about 2 months, I picked up 10-15 year old three burner natural gas Weber Spirit for about $100, and it has worked flawlessly since then. If I hadn't been limiting the search to natural gas, I probably could have found a good one within a week.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Cranky on June 15, 2020, 08:26:42 AM
No. Although a snide burner might be worth the extra cost.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: JLee on June 15, 2020, 09:55:22 AM
I got a used Weber Genesis on Craigslist for $200 many years ago - it went with my house when I sold it.

The house I have now came with this absolute beast of a grill - Dynasty something, I want to say $3-4k? I love it, but would never have spent that much to buy one new. I've never used the side burner on it, but we use the grill all. the. time.  We have natural gas here, and the grill is hooked up to the natural gas line which makes it extremely convenient.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: WSUCoug1994 on June 15, 2020, 10:02:45 AM
I have the Weber Spirit - bought in 2013 - and I love it.  High quality, even heat and overall a very impressive product.  It was not a lot of fun to put together.  I also bought the automatic LED light that mounts on the handle which gets a lot of use.  Although it is a simple feature - the propane tank is suspended and attached to a fuel gauge which helps (but doesn't totally eliminate lol) running out of propane.  Ours also spends its life outside under a weber cover and it has impressed me with how good it still looks.  Only issue I have had is the ignitor button/battery system - I am on my third one and I don't know why they keep going bad.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: jjones1438 on June 15, 2020, 10:10:32 AM
I have the Weber Spirit - bought in 2013 - and I love it.  High quality, even heat and overall a very impressive product.  It was not a lot of fun to put together.  I also bought the automatic LED light that mounts on the handle which gets a lot of use.  Although it is a simple feature - the propane tank is suspended and attached to a fuel gauge which helps (but doesn't totally eliminate lol) running out of propane.  Ours also spends its life outside under a weber cover and it has impressed me with how good it still looks.  Only issue I have had is the ignitor button/battery system - I am on my third one and I don't know why they keep going bad.

Not to hijack OP, but I just had the ignitor button stop working. How did you fix it?

To OP, from what I have read and talking with friends, side burners rarely get used. Have yet to meet anyone that regretted buying a Weber.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Sibley on June 15, 2020, 11:47:53 AM
You said yourself, you're not doing anything really fancy with your grill. Thus, you need a good, solid grill that covers what you actually use it for. I don't know much about grills, but my guess is you could one used, put some money into rehabbing it if needed, and be perfectly happy for a lot less than $1k. Look at your used market, see what's available, and research those models to see if they'll work for you.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 15, 2020, 11:49:03 AM
I think this thread is in the wrong sub-forum.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: bacchi on June 15, 2020, 11:51:24 AM
I think this thread is in the wrong sub-forum.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: JLee on June 15, 2020, 11:58:06 AM
I have the Weber Spirit - bought in 2013 - and I love it.  High quality, even heat and overall a very impressive product.  It was not a lot of fun to put together.  I also bought the automatic LED light that mounts on the handle which gets a lot of use.  Although it is a simple feature - the propane tank is suspended and attached to a fuel gauge which helps (but doesn't totally eliminate lol) running out of propane.  Ours also spends its life outside under a weber cover and it has impressed me with how good it still looks.  Only issue I have had is the ignitor button/battery system - I am on my third one and I don't know why they keep going bad.

Not to hijack OP, but I just had the ignitor button stop working. How did you fix it?

To OP, from what I have read and talking with friends, side burners rarely get used. Have yet to meet anyone that regretted buying a Weber.

I have never used my side burner.

https://newjersey.craigslist.org/app/d/wallington-natural-gas-weber-genesis/7141207064.html
https://newjersey.craigslist.org/hsh/d/tyro-weber-genesis-gold-grill/7132872038.html

I would do something like that.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: FINate on June 15, 2020, 12:00:18 PM
What, exactly, is wrong with the old grill?

As long as the overall structure is not rusted out then you should be able to replace worn out interior parts such as burners and heat tents/deflectors for cheap, usually around $30.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 15, 2020, 12:04:20 PM
FWIW, Consumer Reports gave a higher overall score to the Weber Genesis II E-310 than the E-330 that you are looking at... and it costs $200 less. So don't buy the E-330 model.

But just a couple points lower they rated the Even Embers (GAS8560AS), which you can buy new for under $400, or the Maker's Mark GAS0440AS available at Sam's club for $330.

There's no reason to buy a $1k grill for what you are using it for -- if you do get that understand you are doing it just for the eye-candy, not because it's a better grill.

I find very good grills all the time on CL for $50-200.  People move and can't take their grills with them.  That's what I'd do.

ETA:  you can get a MUCH better/powerful side burner by getting an outdoor turkey fryer kit ofr $50-80, OR getting a gas camping stove.  Hard-core grillers use those over built-in side burners because they can heat and support a 12" cast iron skillet or 16" wok.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Spudd on June 15, 2020, 12:08:00 PM
We got a Napoleon Rogue 425 last year and have been nothing but happy with it. It's a great basic BBQ. We wanted to get something higher quality than the big box store garbage that falls apart within a few years. Our hope was that this one will last us a good 20 years. Only one year in so far, but it's still good as new at this point. It was maybe double the price of a big-box BBQ but should last twice as long.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: FINate on June 15, 2020, 12:08:15 PM
If you really can't repair it, then there are far more affordable options, like nereo's suggestion to buy used.

Or, the Nextgrill BBQs at Home Depot are good, basic grill. E.g. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Nexgrill-4-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-in-Black-with-Side-Burner-and-Stainless-Steel-Main-Lid-720-0925P/310654539 for $200.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: researcher1 on June 15, 2020, 12:36:01 PM
I BBQ a few times a week during the spring/summer/fall months, But I’m not a hard-core griller; I mostly grill burgers, hot dogs, chicken and the occasional steak. 

I really, really love the $1000 Weber Genesis
What is it that you love so much about the $1000 grill?
That is epic overkill for cooking burgers & dogs a few times a week during 6 months of the year.

You are in the exact same position I was 5 years ago.
I was tired of my crappy 10+ year old no name gas grill and decided to purchase a Weber.  I bought this...
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-210-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-2-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881657 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-210-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-2-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881657)

It was a HUGE upgrade from my old grill, has worked flawlessly for the 5 years I've owned it, and is substantially cheaper than the grill you are considering.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 15, 2020, 12:50:09 PM
I BBQ a few times a week during the spring/summer/fall months, But I’m not a hard-core griller; I mostly grill burgers, hot dogs, chicken and the occasional steak. 

I really, really love the $1000 Weber Genesis
What is it that you love so much about the $1000 grill?
That is epic overkill for cooking burgers & dogs a few times a week during 6 months of the year.

You are in the exact same position I was 5 years ago.
I was tired of my crappy 10+ year old no name gas grill and decided to purchase a Weber.  I bought this...
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-210-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-2-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881657 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-210-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-2-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881657)

It was a HUGE upgrade from my old grill, has worked flawlessly for the 5 years I've owned it, and is substantially cheaper than the grill you are considering.
If you read my entire post you would understand that is exactly one of the grill's I'm considering, except I'm looking at the 3 burner, where you got the 2 burner. 
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 15, 2020, 12:51:05 PM
I think this thread is in the wrong sub-forum.
Where should it go then?  I'm asking mustachian's a question - seemed like the most appropriate forum to me. 
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: researcher1 on June 15, 2020, 01:10:19 PM
If you read my entire post you would understand that is exactly one of the grill's I'm considering, except I'm looking at the 3 burner, where you got the 2 burner.
Try again.
I did read your entire post, and the grill I linked is NOT the "exact one" you're considering.
Mine is $429.  The grill you are considering is $650.  Big difference.

And even if it were "exactly" the same but with 3 burners, it would only cost $529, not $650...
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659)

So as I stated previously, you should buy the $429 version I linked.
Anything else is overkill.

Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 15, 2020, 01:15:04 PM
If you read my entire post you would understand that is exactly one of the grill's I'm considering, except I'm looking at the 3 burner, where you got the 2 burner.
Try again.
I did read your entire post, and the grill I linked is NOT the "exact one" you're considering.
Mine is $429.  The grill you are considering is $650.  Big difference.

And even if it were "exactly" the same but with 3 burners, it would only cost $529, not $650...
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659)

So as I stated previously, you should buy the $429 version I linked.
Anything else is overkill.
I live in Canada bro. Ever heard of an exchange rate?  With the 3 burners the exact model is $650.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 15, 2020, 01:30:32 PM
If you read my entire post you would understand that is exactly one of the grill's I'm considering, except I'm looking at the 3 burner, where you got the 2 burner.
Try again.
I did read your entire post, and the grill I linked is NOT the "exact one" you're considering.
Mine is $429.  The grill you are considering is $650.  Big difference.

And even if it were "exactly" the same but with 3 burners, it would only cost $529, not $650...
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659)

So as I stated previously, you should buy the $429 version I linked.
Anything else is overkill.
I live in Canada bro. Ever heard of an exchange rate?  With the 3 burners the exact model is $650.

"bro"?  You are asking people for help, and then being pretty hostile when they take the time to give you solid advice.
It's not known that you are in Canada, in part because you haven't filled out your profile, and because you didn't specify this in your post.  Of course prices would be different, because $1USD = $1.36CAD at the moment. Regardless, it is not "the exact same model" when you are comparing two different models (one with a 2-burner, one with 3).  Those are two different models within the same line.

It does not seem like you need to spend $1,000 on a grill (USD *or* CAD) given what you wish to use it for, to answer the question in your subject post.  There are also other models which either cost less or preform better (and sometimes both) than several of your other suggestions, as given up-thread. 

Finally, one can acquire a perfectly fine used grill for a small fraction of what you are suggesting, should you wish to explore that route. 
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: dogboyslim on June 15, 2020, 01:40:13 PM
Not to hijack OP, but I just had the ignitor button stop working. How did you fix it?
go online and find replacement parts.

My 2 burner spirit was getting pretty bad.  The "flavorizers" had holes in them, the cooktop was rusting and flaking off, and the ignitor had failed.  I found replacement parts for all three for around $130.  Outrageously priced, but cheaper than a new grill, and now it operates like it did when new.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 15, 2020, 01:46:56 PM
If you read my entire post you would understand that is exactly one of the grill's I'm considering, except I'm looking at the 3 burner, where you got the 2 burner.
Try again.
I did read your entire post, and the grill I linked is NOT the "exact one" you're considering.
Mine is $429.  The grill you are considering is $650.  Big difference.

And even if it were "exactly" the same but with 3 burners, it would only cost $529, not $650...
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659)

So as I stated previously, you should buy the $429 version I linked.
Anything else is overkill.
I live in Canada bro. Ever heard of an exchange rate?  With the 3 burners the exact model is $650.

"bro"?  You are asking people for help, and then being pretty hostile when they take the time to give you solid advice.
It's not known that you are in Canada, in part because you haven't filled out your profile, and because you didn't specify this in your post.  Of course prices would be different, because $1USD = $1.36CAD at the moment. Regardless, it is not "the exact same model" when you are comparing two different models (one with a 2-burner, one with 3).  Those are two different models within the same line.

It does not seem like you need to spend $1,000 on a grill (USD *or* CAD) given what you wish to use it for, to answer the question in your subject post.  There are also other models which either cost less or preform better (and sometimes both) than several of your other suggestions, as given up-thread. 

Finally, one can acquire a perfectly fine used grill for a small fraction of what you are suggesting, should you wish to explore that route.

I felt his tone was pretty rude as well, hence my response.  When I say it costs $650, that means it costs $650.  Why does he assume I live in the US?  Lots of people here live in various countries around the world.  Seems like a pretty self-centred thought process, assuming everyone lives in the US.

BTW thank you for your other advice...very much appreciated.  You are right, I definitely don't "need" a $1k grill. I'm frugal; but I'm also a buy-it-for-life kind of guy.  I don't mind spending more if it'll last longer.  So what I don't yet know is whether the the $650 Weber grill will last as long as the $1000 grill.  Or maybe a few years down the road my interests will change and I'll grow into the $1k grill.   
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: JLee on June 15, 2020, 01:57:14 PM
If you read my entire post you would understand that is exactly one of the grill's I'm considering, except I'm looking at the 3 burner, where you got the 2 burner.
Try again.
I did read your entire post, and the grill I linked is NOT the "exact one" you're considering.
Mine is $429.  The grill you are considering is $650.  Big difference.

And even if it were "exactly" the same but with 3 burners, it would only cost $529, not $650...
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Weber-Spirit-E-310-Black-Porcelain-Enamel-3-Burner-Liquid-Propane-Gas-Grill/3881659)

So as I stated previously, you should buy the $429 version I linked.
Anything else is overkill.
I live in Canada bro. Ever heard of an exchange rate?  With the 3 burners the exact model is $650.

"bro"?  You are asking people for help, and then being pretty hostile when they take the time to give you solid advice.
It's not known that you are in Canada, in part because you haven't filled out your profile, and because you didn't specify this in your post.  Of course prices would be different, because $1USD = $1.36CAD at the moment. Regardless, it is not "the exact same model" when you are comparing two different models (one with a 2-burner, one with 3).  Those are two different models within the same line.

It does not seem like you need to spend $1,000 on a grill (USD *or* CAD) given what you wish to use it for, to answer the question in your subject post.  There are also other models which either cost less or preform better (and sometimes both) than several of your other suggestions, as given up-thread. 

Finally, one can acquire a perfectly fine used grill for a small fraction of what you are suggesting, should you wish to explore that route.

I felt his tone was pretty rude as well, hence my response.  When I say it costs $650, that means it costs $650.  Why does he assume I live in the US?  Lots of people here live in various countries around the world.  Seems like a pretty self-centred thought process, assuming everyone lives in the US.

BTW thank you for your other advice...very much appreciated.  You are right, I definitely don't "need" a $1k grill. I'm frugal; but I'm also a buy-it-for-life kind of guy.  I don't mind spending more if it'll last longer.  So what I don't yet know is whether the the $650 Weber grill will last as long as the $1000 grill.  Or maybe a few years down the road my interests will change and I'll grow into the $1k grill.

Home Depot operates in US, Canada, China, India, and Mexico.  The US and Canada are the only countries there who use a dollar as currency, narrowing it down to you being one of the ~37.5 million people in Canada or the ~328 million people in the US.

It was a reasonable assumption.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 15, 2020, 01:59:50 PM
You can be hostile and call people self-centered for assuming you live in the US when a) you are citing companies that are headquartered in the US and available only in N.A, and b) talking about 'dollars' and c) on a forum which originated in the US and - while international - still has the majority of its members located here.  OR - you could see how this would be a logical mistake to make, particularly hwen you've done nothing to alert readers that you are located in Canada.  Your call.

Grills deal with very high temperatures and live outdoors, and as such I've never found any brand to be BIFL with heavy usage.  FWIW the brands that I cited above all have above average or excellent ratings for expected longevity by the folks at CR.  Not a guarantee but a good indication.  Regardless, I would buy the grill which fits your needs now, and not something that's overly expensive with extra features.  Other than the actual grill area and IR burners, there's very little that a larger/fancier grill will offer you over other highly rated, less expensive models.  The resulting food will be just as tasty.  In terms of actual grill performance there's very little daylight between the Weber 330 and several of the other grills that cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much.  You aren't getting an appreciably better grill.

FWIW I have three grills and worked as a line-cook, and probably cook 2/3rds of our suppers outdoors between April and October (and occasionally even in the dead of winter as well).  Take my advice or not - up to you

~n~
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: FINate on June 15, 2020, 02:03:53 PM
BTW thank you for your other advice...very much appreciated.  You are right, I definitely don't "need" a $1k grill. I'm frugal; but I'm also a buy-it-for-life kind of guy.  I don't mind spending more if it'll last longer.  So what I don't yet know is whether the the $650 Weber grill will last as long as the $1000 grill.  Or maybe a few years down the road my interests will change and I'll grow into the $1k grill.

I was big into BIFL before MMM. My hope was that buying quality stuff would cost less in the long-run and be less wasteful/better for the environment. For certain things this makes sense, but not gas grills. Not saying you should get the absolute cheapest quality, but these are used outdoors in a way that means they will always have a limited lifespan.

A Weber may last 2x as long as a mid-range grill, but it's 4x the price. And with Weber's declining quality standards I'm not sure the lifespan is actually 2x. In most cases it's about maintenance and care: Cover when not in use and plan to replace burners/flame-tamers approximately every 3-5 years, and you'll get plenty of life out of any gas grill.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: IslandFiGirl on June 15, 2020, 02:08:34 PM
No. Although a snide burner might be worth the extra cost.

Hee hee hee!
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Michael in ABQ on June 15, 2020, 02:18:51 PM
I bought a Broil King Signet grill a couple of years ago from Lowe's and have been very happy with it. It's very sturdy and solid - Made in the US and Canada. Lots of thick heavy metal, not the thin stuff you see in cheaper grills. The grill portion itself is cast iron and shaped like a V so you can flip it over to get more surface area and trap the juices in the channel or pointing up to get those classic grill marks. My parents came to visit and my dad really wanted to get me a better grill as our old one was rusting away and was close to 10 years old. I think it was around $500 and I can't recall if he bought it or we split the cost. I probably would have kept using that other one until it completely stopped working then bought another $100-150 one. I'm glad I went for this one, much nicer to use and we use it a couple of times a week.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: simonsez on June 15, 2020, 02:19:15 PM
Whatever you end up with, I've found that buying a good cover (yes, there are shitty covers out there) is the key to ignition buttons/switches lasting and overall weathering being mitigated.  i.e. Would you buy a Ferrari and not house it in a garage?  I wouldn't buy a Ferrari but would still put my Honda/Toyota in one.  Not the perfect analogy but you get the idea.

I just did some research on grills as my dad is in need of a replacement.  Here is the Home Depot part of the research, prices in US dollars.  Not sure if you have access to Menard's, Lowe's, or Wal-Mart (lowest quality offerings but also lowest prices) but they offer similar reasonably priced grills.

1. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Nexgrill-4-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-in-Black-with-Side-Burner-and-Stainless-Steel-Main-Lid-720-0925P/310654539 
$199 4 burner with side

2. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Dyna-Glo-5-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-in-Matte-Black-with-Sear-Burner-and-Side-Burner-DGH474CRP/311050256
$249 5 burner with side

3. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Nexgrill-5-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-in-Stainless-Steel-with-Side-Burner-and-Condiment-Rack-720-0888S/310654543
$249 5 burner with side

4. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Dyna-Glo-4-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-in-Black-DGF493BNP/206278564
$179 4 burner

5. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Nexgrill-4-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-in-Red-with-Side-Burner-720-0830HR/305062411
$225 4 burner with side

6. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Nexgrill-5-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-in-Stainless-Steel-with-Side-Burner-and-Black-Panel-720-0888N/300025261
$179 5 burner with side

7. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Megamaster-5-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-in-Black-720-0982/305998923
$192 5 burner

8. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Megamaster-6-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-in-Black-720-0983/305999240
$223 6 burner
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: researcher1 on June 15, 2020, 02:25:19 PM
I felt his tone was pretty rude as well, hence my response.  When I say it costs $650, that means it costs $650.  Why does he assume I live in the US? 
Could you quote the EXACT words from my initial post that you felt the "tone was pretty rude"?

Regardless, your follow-up was both "pretty rude" and incorrect (the model is significantly more expensive than the one I linked to, so it was not at all "exactly" the same).

Regarding being a mind reader about you living in Canada...
- you quoted prices in DOLLARS
- neither your profile or post mention you living outside the US, 
- the two companies you mention (Costco & Home Depot) are US based companies with a TINY footprint in Canada
- the proportion of posters here are overwhelmingly from the US
...wouldn't it be a safe assumption that you were in the US?

And since the focus of your post is about buying a "$1000 grill", wouldn't it be important to let everyone know you are referring to Canadian dollars?  Seems like a pretty self-centred thought process, assuming everyone lives in Canada.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 15, 2020, 03:15:52 PM
I felt his tone was pretty rude as well, hence my response.  When I say it costs $650, that means it costs $650.  Why does he assume I live in the US? 
Could you quote the EXACT words from my initial post that you felt the "tone was pretty rude"?

Regardless, your follow-up was both "pretty rude" and incorrect (the model is significantly more expensive than the one I linked to, so it was not at all "exactly" the same).

Regarding being a mind reader about you living in Canada...
- you quoted prices in DOLLARS
- neither your profile or post mention you living outside the US, 
- the two companies you mention (Costco & Home Depot) are US based companies with a TINY footprint in Canada
- the proportion of posters here are overwhelmingly from the US
...wouldn't it be a safe assumption that you were in the US?

And since the focus of your post is about buying a "$1000 grill", wouldn't it be important to let everyone know you are referring to Canadian dollars?  Seems like a pretty self-centred thought process, assuming everyone lives in Canada.
FYI - Canada also calls their currency "dollars".  Again with the self-centeredness.  What did you think Canada called their currency? 
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: researcher1 on June 15, 2020, 03:26:06 PM
FYI - Canada also calls their currency "dollars".  Again with the self-centeredness.  What did you think Canada called their currency?
Interesting that you didn't address any of the questions or points I made.
I assume that is a tacit admission you were wrong.

I understand that Canada calls their currency dollars.
But how would anyone know you were talking about Canadian dollars?

Especially since you never mention anything (post or profile) about being from Canada. 
And you cited US-BASED companies with a miniscule presence in Canada.
And the vast majority of posters here are from the United States.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 15, 2020, 03:29:05 PM
Now you are just trolling. You are deliberately ignoring all of the other reasons that multiple posters have given you, and ignored a request to say how a previous poster’s comment was “extremely rude”.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 15, 2020, 03:36:08 PM
FYI - Canada also calls their currency "dollars".  Again with the self-centeredness.  What did you think Canada called their currency?
Interesting that you didn't address any of the questions or points I made.
I assume that is a tacit admission you were wrong.

I understand that Canada calls their currency dollars.
But how would anyone know you were talking about Canadian dollars?

Especially since you never mention anything (post or profile) about being from Canada. 
And you cited US-BASED companies with a miniscule presence in Canada.
And the vast majority of posters here are from the United States.
When you said "try again"...that was pretty cheeky.  And the fact you keep telling me my pricing is wrong.  When I say it costs $650, it costs $650.  I don't need you correcting me, when I already know my pricing.  You were wrong.  You just came across as smart ass know it all, when the more you type here, the more I realize you don't know very much. 

And FYI - Broil King is actually a Canadian based company; a huge portion of their BBQ's are made in Canada.  All of these companies have huge presence in Canada.  You clearly know nothing about Canada so just go away; your ignorance is repulsive.   

And the fact you just assume I was talking about US dollars proves my point. 

You have nothing to add to my question so please just go away.  Does anyone know if there is a way to block people on this forum?  I don't have time for trolls.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 15, 2020, 03:38:24 PM
Now you are just trolling. You are deliberately ignoring all of the other reasons that multiple posters have given you, and ignored a request to say how a previous poster’s comment was “extremely rude”.
He said "try again" and was incessant that my pricing was wrong, so I called him "bro".  I'd say that's pretty even.  Then another poster got all offended and now this thread is completely off topic. 

Mods feel free to lock this thread.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 15, 2020, 03:46:23 PM
Now you are just trolling. You are deliberately ignoring all of the other reasons that multiple posters have given you, and ignored a request to say how a previous poster’s comment was “extremely rude”.
He said "try again" and was incessant that my pricing was wrong, so I called him "bro".  I'd say that's pretty even.  Then another poster got all offended and now this thread is completely off topic. 

Mods feel free to lock this thread.
No - you began with “if you read my entire post” before the “try again” comment.
Both of you seem to be escalating and ignoring one of the core forum rules here.

To get back on topic: there are cheaper grills which perform better. That should answer your OP, even before going down the road of which cheaper grill is “good enough”.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: researcher1 on June 15, 2020, 04:15:51 PM
When you said "try again"...that was pretty cheeky.   And the fact you keep telling me my pricing is wrong.
Dude, here is my entire FIRST post.  What about this was rude in any way?...
What is it that you love so much about the $1000 grill?  That is epic overkill for cooking burgers & dogs a few times a week during 6 months of the year.  You are in the exact same position I was 5 years ago.  I was tired of my crappy 10+ year old no name gas grill and decided to purchase a Weber.  I bought this...  It was a HUGE upgrade from my old grill, has worked flawlessly for the 5 years I've owned it, and is substantially cheaper than the grill you are considering.

You responded to that by saying "If you read my entire post" that I "would understand" that it is "exactly one of the grill's I'm considering".  Which is wrong on all counts.  A grill costing >$100 more with more burners is not "exactly" the same.  Only then did I respond with "Try again."

And I didn't "keep telling you your pricing was wrong."  I mentioned it ONE TIME, which was BEFORE your surprise admission that you were in Canada.

You still haven't answered the multiple posters who asked how anyone would have possibly known that you were discussing Canadian dollars when you asked "Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?"

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All of these companies have huge presence in Canada.  You clearly know nothing about Canada so just go away; your ignorance is repulsive.
Compared to the US, the US-based retailers you cited (Costco and Home Depot) have a SMALL presence in Canada.
Even compared to other Canadian retailers, Costco and Home Depot have small footprint...
- George Weston Limited = 2500 locations
- McKesson Corp = 2234 locations
- Empire Company = 1934 locations
- Canadian Tire = 1321 locations
- Home Hardware = 1069 locations
- Home Depot = 182 locations
- Costco = 97 locations
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: FiveSigmas on June 15, 2020, 09:26:53 PM
Caveat: I know very little about grills. FWIW, though, here’s a previous thread on the topic:

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/weber-grills-worth-the-money/

The following is one notable (ex) forum-ite’s take on the matter:

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/weber-grills-worth-the-money/msg1971841/#msg1971841



Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: SwordGuy on June 15, 2020, 10:22:20 PM
You can get perfectly fine grills at Lowes for less than $200, either propane or charcoal, your choice.

I can't see any reason why an occasional user would need to pay more.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Dicey on June 16, 2020, 06:05:28 AM
What a shitshow! Of course the answer is Hell, NO! Why would you expect anything different on from a forum that's about making good choices so you can buy your financial freedom? Once you're FIRE, you can do what ever you want. But until then, asking such a question in the place where facepunches were invented is just asking for one.

If locking this thread is what you really really want, you could have done it yourself or asked the mods. Since you did neither,  a reasonable person might wonder if it looks like a troll and acts like a troll...
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 16, 2020, 06:39:02 AM

The following is one notable (ex) forum-ite’s take on the matter:

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/weber-grills-worth-the-money/msg1971841/#msg1971841

Just to clarify, Sol is not an ‘ex-member’ - he’s still alive and pops in from time to time to say hello. He has just deliberately chosen real life over this forum after spending several years as one of its most prolific members, and is currently living the FIRE dream.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Fishindude on June 16, 2020, 06:50:04 AM
Would I buy a $1,000 grill ..... NO.
Do I occasionally buy some high priced stuff others would find quite stupid ..... YES.

This is one of those cases where if it is something you are excited about and you can do it without causing undue financial stress, go for it.
What good is money if you can't buy things that make you happy occasionally?   

Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Dicey on June 16, 2020, 07:10:56 AM
Would I buy a $1,000 grill ..... NO.
Do I occasionally buy some high priced stuff others would find quite stupid ..... YES.

This is one of those cases where if it is something you are excited about and you can do it without causing undue financial stress, go for it.
What good is money if you can't buy things that make you happy occasionally?
Not disagreeing with you, @Fishindude, but OP made no mention of their financial health. The fact that they're even asking this question makes one think it might not be great. You are an advanced mustachian; OP may not be.

This feels like a strong case of wants vs. needs/shiny object, etc. It's always prudent, especially if the goal has not been reached, to ask oneself if there is a way to meet 80% or more of the need for 20% or less of the cost. The OP has been given lots of helpful suggestions, none of which he seems interested in taking.

And no one has mentioned that the time to score deals is at the end of the grilling season...
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: LightStache on June 16, 2020, 07:57:11 AM
What a shitshow! Of course the answer is Hell, NO! Why would you expect anything different on from a forum that's about making good choices so you can buy your financial freedom? Once you're FIRE, you can do what ever you want. But until then, asking such a question in the place where facepunches were invented is just asking for one.

If locking this thread is what you really really want, you could have done it yourself or asked the mods. Since you did neither,  a reasonable person might wonder if it looks like a troll and acts like a troll...

After ratcheting my savings up to 75% of after-tax income, I'm going through a period of loosening up a little. Maybe it's COVID-driven weakness, but forgoing some of life's little luxuries for five or ten more years seems like too much of a sacrifice right now. I'm even considering dropping my savings rate to 60% or 50% next year depending on how work pans out.

So OP, I'm just one guy on the interwebs, but I say buy yourself the irrational grill and enjoy the hell out of it for five years.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Paper Chaser on June 16, 2020, 08:44:43 AM
Let me just say that I delivered grills for a number of years in my early career. Probably thousands of them during that time. The only grill I've ever paid for is a 3 burner Weber Spirit (2 years ago after the one I'd gotten for free gave up the ghost).
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: JLee on June 16, 2020, 11:53:14 AM
FYI - Canada also calls their currency "dollars".  Again with the self-centeredness.  What did you think Canada called their currency?
Interesting that you didn't address any of the questions or points I made.
I assume that is a tacit admission you were wrong.

I understand that Canada calls their currency dollars.
But how would anyone know you were talking about Canadian dollars?

Especially since you never mention anything (post or profile) about being from Canada. 
And you cited US-BASED companies with a miniscule presence in Canada.
And the vast majority of posters here are from the United States.
When you said "try again"...that was pretty cheeky.  And the fact you keep telling me my pricing is wrong.  When I say it costs $650, it costs $650.  I don't need you correcting me, when I already know my pricing.  You were wrong.  You just came across as smart ass know it all, when the more you type here, the more I realize you don't know very much. 

And FYI - Broil King is actually a Canadian based company; a huge portion of their BBQ's are made in Canada. All of these companies have huge presence in Canada. You clearly know nothing about Canada so just go away; your ignorance is repulsive.   

And the fact you just assume I was talking about US dollars proves my point. 

You have nothing to add to my question so please just go away.  Does anyone know if there is a way to block people on this forum?  I don't have time for trolls.

I'm just going to leave this here.

(https://i.imgur.com/ilUZ19f.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/zZsadId.png)
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 16, 2020, 12:00:31 PM
I did not realize that CostCo had expanded into Australia. 
Learn something new everyday on this forum...
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: JLee on June 16, 2020, 12:11:29 PM
I did not realize that CostCo had expanded into Australia. 
Learn something new everyday on this forum...

They're building a store in Aukland NZ, too!
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: NorCal on June 16, 2020, 12:23:54 PM
So this is something I did a ton of research on on in 2010 when I bought my BBQ.  My answers below assume not much has changed since 2010.

IMO, it's worth buying more than a cheap cheap grill.  The difference in metal quality between a ~$200 grill and a ~$600 grill is the difference between something that lasts ~2 years vs a decade.  Don't get the super cheap ones.

Once you get above the ~$600 ones, the marginal utility starts going down really fast.  As nice as those side burners sound, most reviews from owners say they never actually get used.  Also, at that point, most of the added price is going to the size of the grill.  So it might be worth the price if you do a lot of cooking over indirect heat or you're cooking for dozens of people at a time.  You probably don't need a $1,000 grill unless that applies to you.

I bought the Weber Spirit in 2010, and it was an excellent choice.  I did an overhaul last year with new cooking grates, flavorizer bars, and a new starter ($200 all in).  It's still running strong.  I've never ran into something I wanted to cook that I couldn't.

I also recommend the cookbook "Weber's How To Grill".  It has some AMAZING recipes that come out super fancy, but are pretty easy to pull off.  The Barbecued Strawberries (seriously) are a favorite.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: researcher1 on June 16, 2020, 12:34:10 PM
The difference in metal quality between a ~$200 grill and a ~$600 grill is the difference between something that lasts ~2 years vs a decade.  Don't get the super cheap ones.
Are these in US dollars are Canadian dollars?

The OP is EXTREMELY SENSITIVE about that topic. :)
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: UnleashHell on June 16, 2020, 12:44:21 PM
The difference in metal quality between a ~$200 grill and a ~$600 grill is the difference between something that lasts ~2 years vs a decade.  Don't get the super cheap ones.
Are these in US dollars are Canadian dollars?

The OP is EXTREMELY SENSITIVE about that topic. :)
Hong Kong
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: bonesmtb2 on June 16, 2020, 12:51:01 PM
Definitely buy used.  New grills are such a rip off, for what they really are if you look at how they are built.  You could always buy a nice thermometer or something to accompany it.
I have replaced the burners in mine twice, which was a hand me down from my parents.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Dicey on June 16, 2020, 02:38:15 PM
Ah, statistics! Expanding on the numbers and charts @JLee provided yields the following:

[Damnit -why is inserting a snippet from excel such a pain in the ass? Since I can't figure it out, I'm just posting the totals.]


Home Depot: 143,545 Americans/Location      206,044 Canadians/Location
Costco:          604,052 Americans/Location     375,000 Canadians/Location
Lowe's:          165,908 Americans/Location       79,787 Canadians/Location

Conclusion: Lowe's and Costco are the places to shop in Canada. Looks like parking at Lowe's should be a breeze.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: ReadySetMillionaire on June 16, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
I'm not going to wade into this raging debate, but I will try to answer OP's question.

To me, the whole point of this financial philosophy is to mercilessly question every single expense. Cut things that don't matter to you. But spend on things that do -- but try to do them cheaply if you can.

I spend at least $1,000 and probably more per year going to Ohio State college football games. I really don't care what anybody on here thinks, because it's a family thing, and it's a huge passion of mine, and I love it. But, I do not have cable eight months of the year, I drive a used Honda (don't care about cars), always find myself trying to get deals on insurance, etc.

Point being -- if you are otherwise financially stable, and grilling is a huge hobby of yours, go for it and don't look back.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: FINate on June 16, 2020, 03:11:00 PM
I spend at least $1,000 and probably more per year going to Ohio State college football games. I really don't care what anybody on here thinks, because it's a family thing, and it's a huge passion of mine, and I love it. But, I do not have cable eight months of the year, I drive a used Honda (don't care about cars), always find myself trying to get deals on insurance, etc.

I seriously don't understand what OP expected. "Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?" Should you?! This is MMM, of course not!

@bonesmtb2 if you want to spend $1000 to occasionally grill hamburgers and hotdogs, well, it's your money. Don't expect many here to think it's a good idea. You got answers to your question, perhaps not what you wanted to hear, but you don't need our permission.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Laura33 on June 16, 2020, 03:25:31 PM
I spend at least $1,000 and probably more per year going to Ohio State college football games. I really don't care what anybody on here thinks, because it's a family thing, and it's a huge passion of mine, and I love it. But, I do not have cable eight months of the year, I drive a used Honda (don't care about cars), always find myself trying to get deals on insurance, etc.

I seriously don't understand what OP expected. "Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?" Should you?! This is MMM, of course not!

@bonesmtb2 if you want to spend $1000 to occasionally grill hamburgers and hotdogs, well, it's your money. Don't expect many here to think it's a good idea. You got answers to your question, perhaps not what you wanted to hear, but you don't need our permission.

+1.

Look, I get it.  I've posted many times here about my StupidCar.  And I love it and never intend to sell it and don't really give a shit what anyone else thinks.  But, see, the thing is, I would never come on here and ask anyone if I should buy it.  Because it's a StupidCar!  And, I mean, it's a ReallyFuckingStupidCar!  I freely admit that it is a horrible financial decision that no rational person should actually make!  Luckily, I am FI and still working and have put myself in a position where I can spew dollar bills out the tailpipe if I want to, so I don't have to ask anyone's permission here (and you'll note that I didn't).

But if I had asked, I would 100% fully expect everyone here to tell me that it's the stupidest idea I've ever had and what the hell was I thinking?  That's why I come here.  I have an entire world that tells me that I neeeeeeed a new ShinyPretty, that I deseeeeeerve to treat myself because I work sooooooo hard.  This place is the only place I know that reliably calls bullshit on that sort of, well, bullshit. 

So, OP:  No.  You should not buy a $1000 BBQ grill to throw some burgers and dogs on.  That is a really stupid use of money.  Now, if you have extra money floating around that you feel like seasoning your burgers with, that's your prerogative.  But don't expect most folks here to help you rationalize blowing money that you don't need to when many cheaper options will serve the same purpose just as well.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: ReadySetMillionaire on June 16, 2020, 03:47:06 PM
I spend at least $1,000 and probably more per year going to Ohio State college football games. I really don't care what anybody on here thinks, because it's a family thing, and it's a huge passion of mine, and I love it. But, I do not have cable eight months of the year, I drive a used Honda (don't care about cars), always find myself trying to get deals on insurance, etc.

I seriously don't understand what OP expected. "Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?" Should you?! This is MMM, of course not!

@bonesmtb2 if you want to spend $1000 to occasionally grill hamburgers and hotdogs, well, it's your money. Don't expect many here to think it's a good idea. You got answers to your question, perhaps not what you wanted to hear, but you don't need our permission.

+1.

Look, I get it.  I've posted many times here about my StupidCar.  And I love it and never intend to sell it and don't really give a shit what anyone else thinks.  But, see, the thing is, I would never come on here and ask anyone if I should buy it.  Because it's a StupidCar!  And, I mean, it's a ReallyFuckingStupidCar!  I freely admit that it is a horrible financial decision that no rational person should actually make!  Luckily, I am FI and still working and have put myself in a position where I can spew dollar bills out the tailpipe if I want to, so I don't have to ask anyone's permission here (and you'll note that I didn't).

But if I had asked, I would 100% fully expect everyone here to tell me that it's the stupidest idea I've ever had and what the hell was I thinking?  That's why I come here.  I have an entire world that tells me that I neeeeeeed a new ShinyPretty, that I deseeeeeerve to treat myself because I work sooooooo hard.  This place is the only place I know that reliably calls bullshit on that sort of, well, bullshit. 

So, OP:  No.  You should not buy a $1000 BBQ grill to throw some burgers and dogs on.  That is a really stupid use of money.  Now, if you have extra money floating around that you feel like seasoning your burgers with, that's your prerogative.  But don't expect most folks here to help you rationalize blowing money that you don't need to when many cheaper options will serve the same purpose just as well.

Right. I do not come on here and post, "Should my mom and I spend $800 on tickets to go to the Ohio State vs. Michigan game this year?"

We have spent around this every year since 2002. It's our thing. We go every year, like a pilgrimage. The cost is irrelevant to us.

But you'll be damned if you find me on here asking for the forum's permission to spend that money on football tickets.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 16, 2020, 05:29:38 PM
I spend at least $1,000 and probably more per year going to Ohio State college football games. I really don't care what anybody on here thinks, because it's a family thing, and it's a huge passion of mine, and I love it. But, I do not have cable eight months of the year, I drive a used Honda (don't care about cars), always find myself trying to get deals on insurance, etc.

I seriously don't understand what OP expected. "Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?" Should you?! This is MMM, of course not!

@bonesmtb2 if you want to spend $1000 to occasionally grill hamburgers and hotdogs, well, it's your money. Don't expect many here to think it's a good idea. You got answers to your question, perhaps not what you wanted to hear, but you don't need our permission.

+1.

Look, I get it.  I've posted many times here about my StupidCar.  And I love it and never intend to sell it and don't really give a shit what anyone else thinks.  But, see, the thing is, I would never come on here and ask anyone if I should buy it.  Because it's a StupidCar!  And, I mean, it's a ReallyFuckingStupidCar!  I freely admit that it is a horrible financial decision that no rational person should actually make!  Luckily, I am FI and still working and have put myself in a position where I can spew dollar bills out the tailpipe if I want to, so I don't have to ask anyone's permission here (and you'll note that I didn't).

But if I had asked, I would 100% fully expect everyone here to tell me that it's the stupidest idea I've ever had and what the hell was I thinking?  That's why I come here.  I have an entire world that tells me that I neeeeeeed a new ShinyPretty, that I deseeeeeerve to treat myself because I work sooooooo hard.  This place is the only place I know that reliably calls bullshit on that sort of, well, bullshit. 

So, OP:  No.  You should not buy a $1000 BBQ grill to throw some burgers and dogs on.  That is a really stupid use of money.  Now, if you have extra money floating around that you feel like seasoning your burgers with, that's your prerogative.  But don't expect most folks here to help you rationalize blowing money that you don't need to when many cheaper options will serve the same purpose just as well.

Right. I do not come on here and post, "Should my mom and I spend $800 on tickets to go to the Ohio State vs. Michigan game this year?"

We have spent around this every year since 2002. It's our thing. We go every year, like a pilgrimage. The cost is irrelevant to us.

But you'll be damned if you find me on here asking for the forum's permission to spend that money on football tickets.

I mean, assuming there is a football season, why do you want to spend $800 just to feel depressed when Michigan wins?
:-P
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Duke03 on June 16, 2020, 07:47:31 PM
I'm late to the party, but BUY THE BBQ PIT!!!!


I'm not sure if you are in Texas or not, but I'd really look into a Lyfe Tyme pit if I was you.  I bought one about 10 years ago and absolutely love it to death.  Here is the Kicker.... 10 years ago I paid $800 for my pit.  Today the same pit sells for $1800.  I could sell mine used for $1000 all day long.... If you buy a quality product and take care of it.  It will last and probably hold most of it's value.  Anything BBQ is very popular right now so that's why you see a lot of prices going way high.


I love bbq like no other and love cooking and having parties and my Lyfe Tyme pit makes me out to be a much better cook than what I actually am.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: englishteacheralex on June 16, 2020, 08:10:39 PM
Hmm. I mean, definitely not is the answer to this question, although as many others have pointed out, it really depends on your financial picture.

Whenever I want something specific and cool, one neat strategy is to put a Craigslist search on it so I get emailed whenever the specific gadget comes up. This is how I scored a Barratza Encore burr coffee grinder for $70. I had to wait 1.5 years for that, though. And I still thought it was kind of a dumb thing to buy, even though for that price it was more than half off retail and it was brand new in the box. I did the same thing with a KitchenAid stand mixer--craigslist searched, waited a long time (over two years) and finally snagged a brand new one for $125.

Come to think of it...I actually bought our Ninja blender that way for $30 (the Vitamixes are still too expensive for me even when they're used; I read too many posts by SOL I guess), and our bread machine for $30. My husband got our 8 quart instant pot off his secretary, who was selling hers because she melted a bit of it on her stove but it still works great. My husband paid her $80, which isn't that awesome of a bargain but she's his secretary so he didn't want to cheap out, which I thought was the right move.

When I don't have time to score a deal on a used or refurbished Neat Gadget, I typically will just buy the "Good Buy" substitute that either WireCutter or America's Test Kitchen recommends.

$1000 for a gas grill would probably not be something we'd do...but the decision (like most financial decisions) needs more context such as what your houses is like and what your total financial picture is and all that good stuff.

Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: norajean on June 16, 2020, 08:28:08 PM
If you have the money and like to grill, I say go for it. No point in cheating out.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Dicey on June 17, 2020, 01:26:21 AM
No point in cheating out.
I don't know this expression. Will somebody please translate for me?
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: simonsez on June 17, 2020, 08:12:02 AM
No point in cheating out.
I don't know this expression. Will somebody please translate for me?
Maybe it was 'cheaping' out?  The p is not close to the t on a QWERTY though.  I suppose it could be an eggcorn.

I'm surprised at the proportion saying yes to the OP.  Is a facepunch no longer a thing?  I buy excessive things all the time but I'm certainly not going to ask a group of frugal people if I should do so, I already know their answer (or thought I did/would).  Idk, maybe I'm missing something in the grilling world but my grilled food seems tasty enough, mostly ignorance is mostly bliss?  My cousin has me over a few times a year and makes something awesome on his fancy Traeger pellet grill and that's great - but I grill way too frequently for me to mess with it to that level on a regular basis.  I want something I can reliably turn on for multiple times a week usage, has even heating across the burners, enough space to cook for 15 or so (even though that's far from the norm), gets plenty hot, and will last for many years (with the help of a cover) and I feel that can be done for a lot less than $1000.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 17, 2020, 08:15:45 AM

I'm surprised at the proportion saying yes to the OP.  Is a facepunch no longer a thing?  I buy excessive things all the time but I'm certainly not going to ask a group of frugal people if I should do so, I already know their answer (or thought I did/would).  Idk, maybe I'm missing something in the grilling world but my grilled food seems tasty enough, mostly ignorance is mostly bliss?  My cousin has me over a few times a year and makes something awesome on his fancy Traeger pellet grill and that's great - but I grill way too frequently for me to mess with it to that level on a regular basis.  I want something I can reliably turn on for multiple times a week usage, has even heating across the burners, enough space to cook for 15 or so (even though that's far from the norm), gets plenty hot, and will last for many years (with the help of a cover) and I feel that can be done for a lot less than $1000.

There are cheaper grills which score higher on performance, including another similar model by the same company.
How is the question not answered right there?  Who wants to pay more for something that isn't as good on this forum?

OP seems to have taken his ball and gone home, so I'm not sure we're getting any more input on his thought process or ultimate decision.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: Dicey on June 17, 2020, 09:48:57 AM
To add to that, I don't care what the OP does with his money, unless he asks for opinions on what's basically a frugality forum. In fact, the whole thread smells troll-ish. Make a decision and own it.
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: WSUCoug1994 on June 17, 2020, 11:13:29 AM
I have the Weber Spirit - bought in 2013 - and I love it.  High quality, even heat and overall a very impressive product.  It was not a lot of fun to put together.  I also bought the automatic LED light that mounts on the handle which gets a lot of use.  Although it is a simple feature - the propane tank is suspended and attached to a fuel gauge which helps (but doesn't totally eliminate lol) running out of propane.  Ours also spends its life outside under a weber cover and it has impressed me with how good it still looks.  Only issue I have had is the ignitor button/battery system - I am on my third one and I don't know why they keep going bad.

Not to hijack OP, but I just had the ignitor button stop working. How did you fix it?

To OP, from what I have read and talking with friends, side burners rarely get used. Have yet to meet anyone that regretted buying a Weber.

I ordered a new one from Amazon for like $20
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 17, 2020, 01:08:23 PM
I've asked Dicey how to lock threads, since he said you can lock your own posts, but before I do, I thought I would provide an update to most of you who provided very useful input, which I really appreciate!  A couple points to address comments made here:

First, I initially came here to get you guys to talk me out of spending $1000 on a BBQ!  I came here for a balanced perspective, which I have received thanks to many of your comments. 

My financial situation is very, very good, but I am still a frugal person.  I coud easily drive around a brand new Porsche but I choose to drive my 2005 Corolla. 

I looked on Kijiji (our version of Craigslist) and most used Weber's sell for around $300-400.  Plus I'd need to add some money fixing them up, so let's say $400-500. 

What I am leaning towards is I found a great deal on a new Weber BBQ. It is the exact same BBQ as the $1000 I was initially looking at, except it does not have: 1) a side burner, 2) a searing station or 3) stainless steel grates (it has cast iron grates instead).  To me this is better value and a compromise I am more comfortable with.  I doubt I will ever use the side burner or searing station.  But I did like the stainless steel grates, but that is not essential, and I can buy them in a few years when the cast iron ones get rusted up. 
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 17, 2020, 01:48:28 PM
FWIW, I prefer cast-iron grates over SS.  The SS will look nicer at first and be non-stick right away, but cast-iron lasts longer, deals with very high heat much better (particularly useful when you set all the burners to maximum to get a good char) and - done correctly - when seasoned will provide a very good non-stick coating and protection from rust.

As for the side burner - as I mentioned before people who are really into outdoor grilling often opt for an aftermarket burner.  Turkey fryer burners are very popular because they have a much bigger burner, are really robust and can handle a 12" skillet, whereas those small 6" burners they put into grills cannot.  You can get one new for under $70USD, or you can wait until the fall when they show up on Kijiji for half that from people who used in 1-2x to fry a turkey and decided not to ever do it again.

AS someone else mentioned - buy a decent cover.  That will help the longevity of your grill more than anything else.  It's $20-30 well spent.

g'luck
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: G-String on June 17, 2020, 02:01:50 PM
FWIW, I prefer cast-iron grates over SS.  The SS will look nicer at first and be non-stick right away, but cast-iron lasts longer, deals with very high heat much better (particularly useful when you set all the burners to maximum to get a good char) and - done correctly - when seasoned will provide a very good non-stick coating and protection from rust.

As for the side burner - as I mentioned before people who are really into outdoor grilling often opt for an aftermarket burner.  Turkey fryer burners are very popular because they have a much bigger burner, are really robust and can handle a 12" skillet, whereas those small 6" burners they put into grills cannot.  You can get one new for under $70USD, or you can wait until the fall when they show up on Kijiji for half that from people who used in 1-2x to fry a turkey and decided not to ever do it again.

AS someone else mentioned - buy a decent cover.  That will help the longevity of your grill more than anything else.  It's $20-30 well spent.

g'luck
Thanks!  Yes I've read there are pro and cons to stainless steel grates vs cast iron.  I mainly wanted the SS because when I was at a resort in Hawaii the shared grills there had SS and I really liked them.  The cast iron grates on my current grill are okay, but they also dont look very godo after a while. 

On the side burner: if you get an aftermarket one, how is it powered?  Does it need to be plugged into an electrical outlet?  Or can it run off the BBQ's existing propane tank? 

Godo advice on the cover.  I will definitely be getting one.  Apparently Costco has a popular one everyone uses. 
Title: Re: Should I buy a $1000 BBQ Grill?
Post by: nereo on June 17, 2020, 02:13:41 PM
aftermarket side burners run off propane (or natural gas with a conversion kit), just like your grill.  You can get a splitter to run both the grill and the side burner off the same tank, or you can have two tanks (or you can hard-line it into your home's gas line, should you have one.