Author Topic: rent apartment or buy condo in Northern Virginia: can I have your advice?  (Read 1817 times)

hellofromdc

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I work in DC and want to move to Northern Virginia (NOVA). I'm trying to decide whether to buy a condo or rent an apartment. I'm in my late 30s and have no debt. I'm currently renting with a roommate in Maryland. My lease is up and I have a hobby that I am dedicated to that requires me to be in VA on several weeknights, so I want to move to NOVA.
This is a high cost of living area and since Amazon is coming, I fear that rents and real estate prices will keep rising.

I have a preapproval for a 3% down payment. I can only afford to put 3 or 5 percent down. After buying and paying for closing costs, I would have $10k left in my emergency fund (not including retirement savings).

If I buy:
1 or 2 bedroom condo, monthly costs including HOA, taxes, etc.: $1,950 to 2,100 range

Rent:
1 or 2 bedroom apartment, rent: $1750 to $1850 range

In the future, maybe three to five years, I’d like to own a house or townhouse with a small yard. Right now I can’t afford it. I’m not committed to the DC area forever but I see myself here for at least five more years.

Should I buy a condo now thinking that I am locking in a monthly price, and I can plan to rent it out or sell it in a few years?

Should I rent thinking that I should wait to buy until I can save to buy what I really want (and have a bigger down payment)? But risk that rents will rise?

Another variable is with only 10k in savings I am apprehensive about any appliances breaking or needed repairs in a place that I own. Then again, I’ve been living in apartments for more than 10 years, and get tired of moving from apt to apt. Parking is ridiculous in NOVA and condos would come with a reserved spot. I’m also afraid of being priced out of ever owning if I don’t buy soon, since DC area prices just seem to keep rising, inventory is low, and demand is high.

Thanks for any advice!
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 02:53:04 PM by hellofromdc »

Raenia

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Have you calculated for all the additional transaction costs of buying (aka closing costs)?  This is usually about 5% in addition to your downpayment.  I would also be concerned about the potential for expensive emergencies - we just bought our house less than a month ago, and already we're at $8k in repairs and maintenance that the previous owners didn't do.

Play around with this rent vs own calculator, it does a good job considering the many factors that go into the math.  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/buy-rent-calculator.html

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If you don't plan on staying a while, definitely stick to renting and buy when you move to a lower cost of living area. Renters typically get more bang for the buck in the DC area than buyers. Unless you're way out in the exurbs, but I wouldn't recommend that.

MathematicalCycler

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I live on the DC area, and buying a house saved me money, but only because I rent out one room. Seconding that maintenance is more than I expected even though I bought a well-maintained house and DIY a lot.

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I would do some math. There is something called the 1% rule, and what it basically means is that a landlord should be looking to have a property generating monthly rent of at least 1% per month of the purchase price. So said another way, if they purchase a house for $120,000, they should be able to rent it for $1000 or more, if they purchase for $240,000, it should rent for $2000 a month or more and so on. While some folks have questioned the value of this rule of thumb in some hot RE markets like SF, LA, and DC, it’s still an interesting tool. You can turn this on it’s head and use the rule for making a buy versus rent decision. So if you look at a place to rent and compare it to a comparable property for sale, if the rent is over 1% of the purchase price, buying is probably a better deal and if the rent is less than 1% of the purchase price, renting is probably a better deal. Keep in mind that it’s a rule of thumb and YMMV. I think what you’ll find is rents in NOVA are much less than 1%. But I don’t live there so do the math.

Now I’ll share my opinion. Home ownership is a lifestyle choice, not an investment. After the costs of maintenance, upgrades, price risks, etc, you’re lucky if you break even. Buy it because you want to own a dog, because you want a part of the dream, you don’t like moving, whatever. It’s extremely difficult to justify on an ROI basis in most cases.

Annie101

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3-4 years isn't long enough to recoup real estate fees when you sell.  I would rent.

Also, the idea to rent it out and buy something else is nice, but I think it's difficult to do.   Will the bank lend you money to buy a second house? Need a larger down payment.
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Loretta

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On one hand interest rates are pretty darn good right now, but you may not have a long enough window in a condo to get the equity you would need for a place with a small yard.  Maybe save up to get what you really want by renting with a roomie and just skip the condo for now. 

remizidae

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Are you planning to have a roommate? The costs you are quoting are quite high for one person (and yes, I'm familiar with the area.)

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Keep in mind that RE prices do go down. This far into market expansions, people forget that declines are possible and that's when things get bubblicious because everyone wants to "get in before nothing's affordable." Fear isn't a good reason to buy a house and, by the time this logic sets in, the people who stretch to buy are the ones that get burned. HQ2 is already priced into the market. What if it falls through like NY?

If I were you I'd move into a 2BR in NOVA with a roommate and then start saving aggressively. Then when the market stagnates or takes a little dip, you will be well positioned to swoop in and snatch up a good deal.

coffeefueled

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I don't think you should buy. My husband and I both sold condos last year in Northern VA to move into our current home. We both bought in 2011/2012 when prices were really low (mine 1 BD, his 2 BD). We sold last year around the time amazon announced their move to the area. With those factors we did have the equivalent of living at very reduced rent for those 6 years, but we also put 20% down, so our payments were probably much lower than yours will be. It is highly doubtful you will make money on a short-term condo.

Have you factored in PMI? Unless you have some kind of advantaged loan (like a VA loan) you'll have to pay PMI, which could be several hundred dollars.

Buying also means that you're stuck in one place which is not always beneficial if you're in a condo. Both of us had people above us at one point or another who were intolerably loud, but owned and couldn't move. His condo association was poorly run and resulted in extra assessments. We're really glad we don't live in either of our neighborhoods now because of new construction and buildings are changing the traffic patterns, making noise, and tearing up the roads. Sure that's short term, but it would've been annoying to live through.

Overall, if you're planning to live in a condo, flexibility and renting are your friend.

If you do decide to buy make sure you have a good grasp of your HOA's financial status, how the board makes financial and spending decisions, how your HOA leadership is elected, and (to the extent you can) what changes/construction is going to happen within several blocks of your building over the next 5 years.

MrThatsDifferent

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Read all of this first, especially the link in addendum #4 and then let us know if you still think it’s smart to buy?

https://jlcollinsnh.com/2013/05/29/why-your-house-is-a-terrible-investment/

hellofromdc

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Thank you everyone for your advice. I appreciate it very much. It seems like renting is smarter.

 

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