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Title: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on June 11, 2016, 07:03:45 PM
Ok, we will need a fridge starting July 1st or so (closing then and don't have a fridge).

It seems that:


Is there a "best" way to shop for a fridge? We're going to try to sign up for the Chase 50k rewards card before committing to a purchase. Ideally find a fridge which has a scratch or blemish, I guess. Not very many stores locally that have refrigerators though.

Strategy so far was look at stuff in stores then go online and find good prices. Looks like Goedekers is going to kill the stores in pricing. I like the french door ones and this one at $1,068.99 (http://www.goedekers.com/Whirlpool-WRF535SMBM.html) seems reasonable enough.


Is there a better way? It feels like a racket.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: letired on June 11, 2016, 07:14:29 PM
I recently also went through this ridiculousness. I ended up buying that same fridge. I used a $100 gift card from my Uncle, my current travel points card, and made the purchase through a cash-back portal. I can also get $50 from my city utilities for 'recycling' my old 'working' fridge (it is 20+ years old, freezes everything, the seals leak, condensation/mildew everwhere, etc etc).

If you have the means to transport and possibly store one, I saw many seemingly-acceptable fridges on Craigslist for decent-to-excellent prices. I ended up not going that route because many of the deals disappeared quickly before I could arrange transport and I was a bit concerned about failure/repairs.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: rockstache on June 11, 2016, 07:17:00 PM
We bought one on craigslist from a couple in a ritzy neighborhood who was converting their whole kitchen to stainless steel. It worked out pretty well for us.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Another Reader on June 11, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Lowes and Home Depot often have this model for $998 on their holiday sales.  Since they did not have it on sale at that price for Memorial Day, my bet is it will be on sale at that price for July 4th.  You can save an extra 5 percent with a Lowes credit card or Discover will have 5 percent cash back at home improvement stores starting July 1st.  July 4th is Monday, so expect the sale to start on June 30th.  No guarantee that model will be on sale, though.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: tobitonic on June 11, 2016, 07:22:34 PM
We bought one on craigslist from a couple in a ritzy neighborhood who was converting their whole kitchen to stainless steel. It worked out pretty well for us.

Exactly what we did. Got a huge fridge that would probably have cost 3x as much new, and it still works perfectly 3 years later.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Cyaphas on June 11, 2016, 07:30:49 PM
Criagslist. Just make sure it's been manufactured in the last 5 years and is energy efficient.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: BrickByBrick on June 11, 2016, 07:34:10 PM
Lowes and Home Depot often have this model for $998 on their holiday sales.  Since they did not have it on sale at that price for Memorial Day, my bet is it will be on sale at that price for July 4th.  You can save an extra 5 percent with a Lowes credit card or Discover will have 5 percent cash back at home improvement stores starting July 1st.  July 4th is Monday, so expect the sale to start on June 30th.  No guarantee that model will be on sale, though.

Also, buy a 10% off Lowes coupon from Ebay for a few bucks to knock it down further.   The Home Depot will take those coupons as well.

For example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONE-1x-Lowes-10-Off-Coupons-Exp-AUGUST-15-2016-PRINTABLE-FAST-EMAIL-/252421065346?hash=item3ac577ca82:g:enwAAOSw3ihXTE1S (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONE-1x-Lowes-10-Off-Coupons-Exp-AUGUST-15-2016-PRINTABLE-FAST-EMAIL-/252421065346?hash=item3ac577ca82:g:enwAAOSw3ihXTE1S)
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ThunderCats on June 11, 2016, 07:41:35 PM
We bought one on craigslist from a couple in a ritzy neighborhood who was converting their whole kitchen to stainless steel. It worked out pretty well for us.

Exactly what we did. Got a huge fridge that would probably have cost 3x as much new, and it still works perfectly 3 years later.

We did the same thing.  Amazing how many families "need" to upgrade to stainless steel.  Ours was just a couple of years old, runs great, looks great, and I think it was just like $400 or $450.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: I'm a red panda on June 11, 2016, 07:42:15 PM
If you happen to be a veteran/active duty military Lowes gives you 10% off all the time, you just have to ask and show an ID.  That would save buying a coupon
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: horsepoor on June 11, 2016, 10:17:23 PM
Ender, we bought that fridge in white last year when our old Samsung's compressor went out.  Very happy with it so far.

Craigslist can be good if you're able to transport.  We bought a pretty decent side-by-side for our rental from CL for like $200 and it worked perfectly for the ~4 years we had the place rented out.  Didn't go that route for the new one because I wanted this specific fridge and didn't have the option to wait around for one to pop up.

You might check on the Sears Outlet site.  When I was looking, they had a couple listed, but they weren't available at our local store, so the savings wasn't as significant once shipping was added.

When we bought ours, one of my credit cards was doing 5% cash back at grocery stores, so I bought Lowe's gift cards there, racked up tons of fuel points, plus the cash back, and combined it with one of the 10% off Lowe's coupons. 
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: meandmyfamily on June 11, 2016, 10:32:49 PM
We went to Best Buy and found a "dented" one and it was 50% off!  Nothing wrong with the thing unless you looked really really close.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Dicey on June 11, 2016, 11:39:34 PM
If it's any consolation, our counter-depth (appliance-speak for holds less but costs more) fridge cost $2300. We price shopped hard and it came from NY, which is even more crazy, as we're in CA. It only had so-so reviews. We bought it anyway because it was the only option that fit into the custom cabinet and matched the existing appliances. Three years later, we're still hoping the other shoe doesn't fall.

Except that the microwave just went out. Would you believe $1200? Who in fuck's name pays that for a microwave? Fortunately, we found one on CL for $350. Still ain't cheap, but better than $1200. Oh yeah, it's 400 miles away from here, but we have to go that way anyway, so we'll pick it up, schlep it home and DH will install. Oy.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: PMG on June 12, 2016, 02:06:43 AM
If you're in the States when you sign up to change your address online you'll get email offers including 10% off coupons for Lowes.  They also send the same coupons in paper form to your new address. 



Lowes and Home Depot often have this model for $998 on their holiday sales.  Since they did not have it on sale at that price for Memorial Day, my bet is it will be on sale at that price for July 4th.  You can save an extra 5 percent with a Lowes credit card or Discover will have 5 percent cash back at home improvement stores starting July 1st.  July 4th is Monday, so expect the sale to start on June 30th.  No guarantee that model will be on sale, though.

Also, buy a 10% off Lowes coupon from Ebay for a few bucks to knock it down further.   The Home Depot will take those coupons as well.

For example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONE-1x-Lowes-10-Off-Coupons-Exp-AUGUST-15-2016-PRINTABLE-FAST-EMAIL-/252421065346?hash=item3ac577ca82:g:enwAAOSw3ihXTE1S (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONE-1x-Lowes-10-Off-Coupons-Exp-AUGUST-15-2016-PRINTABLE-FAST-EMAIL-/252421065346?hash=item3ac577ca82:g:enwAAOSw3ihXTE1S)
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on June 12, 2016, 06:49:39 AM
Lots of good feedback!
Ender, we bought that fridge in white last year when our old Samsung's compressor went out.  Very happy with it so far.
I recently also went through this ridiculousness. I ended up buying that same fridge. I used a $100 gift card from my Uncle, my current travel points card, and made the purchase through a cash-back portal. I can also get $50 from my city utilities for 'recycling' my old 'working' fridge (it is 20+ years old, freezes everything, the seals leak, condensation/mildew everwhere, etc etc).

Our city has a $100 electric rebate for an energy star fridge, which is one reason we are looking at the fancier stuff. Glad to know other folks found the same one we're looking at :-)

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If you have the means to transport and possibly store one, I saw many seemingly-acceptable fridges on Craigslist for decent-to-excellent prices. I ended up not going that route because many of the deals disappeared quickly before I could arrange transport and I was a bit concerned about failure/repairs.

This is one place where not having a big vehicle hurts.

You might check on the Sears Outlet site.  When I was looking, they had a couple listed, but they weren't available at our local store, so the savings wasn't as significant once shipping was added. 

We did, but the nearest in store item was about 400 miles away... :(

If you're in the States when you sign up to change your address online you'll get email offers including 10% off coupons for Lowes.  They also send the same coupons in paper form to your new address. 

I totally forgot about this but you are right!  We are lucky because we have nearly a month of transition period between when we HAVE to move out and can move in. So we can have all our perishables in our current fridge during this overlap.

Now I'm curious how quickly the Chase 50k sapphire card would get approved/sent. I've been thinking that this might be the only time we might spend $4k in the three month window.

Lowes and Home Depot often have this model for $998 on their holiday sales.  Since they did not have it on sale at that price for Memorial Day, my bet is it will be on sale at that price for July 4th.  You can save an extra 5 percent with a Lowes credit card or Discover will have 5 percent cash back at home improvement stores starting July 1st.  July 4th is Monday, so expect the sale to start on June 30th.  No guarantee that model will be on sale, though.

This is good to know. We went to Lowe's yesterday to browse and the guy said they often have stuff on sale for Father's Day or the 4th of July, so that might work out. If we got it for $998 we'd really be paying out of pocket about $800+tax ($100 city credit and 10% off). Hrmmm. That's a price point I can tolerate :)

If it's any consolation, our counter-depth (appliance-speak for holds less but costs more) fridge cost $2300. We price shopped hard and it came from NY, which is even more crazy, as we're in CA. It only had so-so reviews. We bought it anyway because it was the only option that fit into the custom cabinet and matched the existing appliances. Three years later, we're still hoping the other shoe doesn't fall.

Yeah, the main reason we are looking at this big of a fridge is that the kitchen in the house we're buying was recently remodeled and as a result has a HUGE hole for the fridge. We'd be ok with a smaller one, but it'd be super awkward fitting. And the sellers wanted $1500 for their 4-year-old-even-fancier-fridge. lol NOPE!
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: zolotiyeruki on June 12, 2016, 07:33:48 AM
For me personally, I'd just get a simple, no-frills fridge.  Who cares if the hole is bigger than the fridge?  We bought a new one ($550?) when we moved into our first house 11 years ago, and it's going strong.

A couple years ago, our next-door neighbors practically gave us a fancy freezer-on-bottom, french door fridge with ice maker and water dispenser.  We've had no problems with it, but despite being 6" wider than our boring fridge, it seems to be able to hold less food.  Maybe it's the fact that the shelves are split, so they can be at different heights on the two sides, or maybe it's the fact that the shelves are shallower.  But this fridge, which I'm certain was >$2k when new, is less functional as a fridge than our old one.  Yes, we use the ice maker and water dispenser all the time.  But if it were up to me, I'd stick with a simple fridge.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: radram on June 12, 2016, 07:55:36 AM
We have hardware stores in Wisconsin (Menard's) that will rent you a pickup truck for $20 for the first hour and a half.

I would check around your area for a store that does the same and do that for a craigslist deal. 

For a meal, I would help a friend with a haul within 50 miles of my home using my Ranger(ok, really even without getting a meal).  Do you know anybody as kindhearted and humble as me? :)
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: bobechs on June 12, 2016, 08:33:04 AM


...It only had so-so reviews. We bought it anyway because it was the only option that fit into the custom cabinet and matched the existing appliances. ...



I am using my mind as best I can, trying to imagine the bad thing that happens when one's refrigerator does not match the existing appliances.

I can't seem to get anything to come... can anyone help me out on this? 

Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: seattlecyclone on June 12, 2016, 10:22:57 AM
We recently had to replace our fridge. We got a pretty basic 18 cubic foot model from Sears for about $600. Delivery and recycling of the old one were included in that price. It was also Energy Star rated so we got a $50 rebate from the electric utility and it should have reasonable operating cost as well. Probably could have done a bit better scouring Craigslist for a good deal, but I was happy enough to pay a bit extra to both get something with a bit more life left in it, and also not have to deal with renting a truck, hauling the new fridge myself, and disposing of the old one.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: horsepoor on June 12, 2016, 11:04:52 AM

Now I'm curious how quickly the Chase 50k sapphire card would get approved/sent. I've been thinking that this might be the only time we might spend $4k in the three month window.

IIRC, it took about 10 days from applying to receiving the card.

If you go with the Whirlpool, you might check availability.  It was back ordered for a month when we bought it, so we had to make do with a small wine fridge for a few weeks waiting for it to be delivered.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: SwordGuy on June 12, 2016, 11:19:52 AM
Estate sales are a good way to get appliances.  But you have to get there early.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on June 12, 2016, 11:25:08 AM
For me personally, I'd just get a simple, no-frills fridge.  Who cares if the hole is bigger than the fridge?  We bought a new one ($550?) when we moved into our first house 11 years ago, and it's going strong.

A couple years ago, our next-door neighbors practically gave us a fancy freezer-on-bottom, french door fridge with ice maker and water dispenser.  We've had no problems with it, but despite being 6" wider than our boring fridge, it seems to be able to hold less food.  Maybe it's the fact that the shelves are split, so they can be at different heights on the two sides, or maybe it's the fact that the shelves are shallower.  But this fridge, which I'm certain was >$2k when new, is less functional as a fridge than our old one.  Yes, we use the ice maker and water dispenser all the time.  But if it were up to me, I'd stick with a simple fridge.

Eh, the main thing is it's really easy to get stuff down under/behind a fridge that doesn't fit somewhat snug sideways.

Totally agree on the absurdness of water/ice stuff. My wife and I both don't want to give up so much of a fridge to for those (plus we live in a town with great tap water so anyone here buying the in-fridge water thing is ridiculous if they are on city water). In talking to a guy at Lowe's it sounds like many fridges can come without the icemaker/water stuff, so if you are buying a fridge you might save money doing that.


Now I'm curious how quickly the Chase 50k sapphire card would get approved/sent. I've been thinking that this might be the only time we might spend $4k in the three month window.

IIRC, it took about 10 days from applying to receiving the card.

If you go with the Whirlpool, you might check availability.  It was back ordered for a month when we bought it, so we had to make do with a small wine fridge for a few weeks waiting for it to be delivered.

Hmm. I'm still torn since $4k is a LOOOOT of money for us to spend in 3 months even if we spend $1k on this fridge. We just don't spend that much per month. Though I do think we could pretty easily hit the limit by stocking up on things, just a question of whether it'd be a cost neutral way to do it or not.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Goldielocks on June 12, 2016, 12:02:01 PM
We bought one on craigslist from a couple in a ritzy neighborhood who was converting their whole kitchen to stainless steel. It worked out pretty well for us.

Exactly what we did. Got a huge fridge that would probably have cost 3x as much new, and it still works perfectly 3 years later.

This!   Especially good if you are not too picky, just want a COLD fridge.  Keep looking until you find something under 3 years old for very little money, in great condition.

We also purchased a new one from the sears clearance center, for a "minimal frills" model that we had our eye on, and just waited for the semi-annual discount sale off the discounted prices.  Only works if you are willing to wait many months and keep checking the store / flyer (I worked across the street at the time)
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Mtngrl on June 12, 2016, 01:45:59 PM
This reminds me of a the time we went shopping for a refrigerator. We were in the appliance store, looking at a model I thought would work, and the salesman approached. "You should take a look at this model over here." (Recites list of fancy features) "That model you're looking at is a very basic model."
I looked at him and told him. "We're very basic people. We'll take this one."
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Rezdent on June 12, 2016, 03:31:45 PM


...It only had so-so reviews. We bought it anyway because it was the only option that fit into the custom cabinet and matched the existing appliances. ...



I am using my mind as best I can, trying to imagine the bad thing that happens when one's refrigerator does not match the existing appliances.

I can't seem to get anything to come... can anyone help me out on this?
Sorry - can't help you.  I can commiserate though.  I apparently lack the "match" gene too.  Although luckily (I guess?) my DH has it.  He will tell me things like "it's the first thing you see in the kitchen - it needs to look right because we will be staring at it for years".
Meh.  First thing I see in the kitchen is coffee.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Bateaux on June 12, 2016, 07:57:53 PM
Bought a plain white Whirlpool 18 cubic foot for $500 new in 1992.  Still runs great
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Dicey on June 13, 2016, 01:32:43 AM


...It only had so-so reviews. We bought it anyway because it was the only option that fit into the custom cabinet and matched the existing appliances. ...



I am using my mind as best I can, trying to imagine the bad thing that happens when one's refrigerator does not match the existing appliances.

I can't seem to get anything to come... can anyone help me out on this?
Sorry - can't help you.  I can commiserate though.  I apparently lack the "match" gene too.  Although luckily (I guess?) my DH has it.  He will tell me things like "it's the first thing you see in the kitchen - it needs to look right because we will be staring at it for years".
Meh.  First thing I see in the kitchen is coffee.
It's not as much a matching thing as a what-will-fit-in-the-damn-cabinet-hole thing. Ours is an utter clown house with over-the-top custom features throughout. It's not our forever home, so when we sell it, matching appliances are pretty much mandatory to the buyer at this price point. We bought it on a short sale and it's 3.5 blocks to DH's work, so we're just trying to be good stewards of the home until we're through with it.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ShoulderThingThatGoesUp on June 13, 2016, 04:17:48 AM
Sometimes Sears Outlet can be so cheap that the delivery fee is worthwhile, although they did lose the first fridge I ordered that way...

In store is better, though, because you can get a 5% discount with a Sears credit card. (Lowes has one of those too.)
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: kite on June 13, 2016, 05:36:05 AM
Don't sign up for any credit card until after the closing if you need financing to close on the home. 
There are plenty of decent freezer on top models to be had, brand new, in the $500- $600 range. 

Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Rezdent on June 13, 2016, 06:19:09 AM


...It only had so-so reviews. We bought it anyway because it was the only option that fit into the custom cabinet and matched the existing appliances. ...



I am using my mind as best I can, trying to imagine the bad thing that happens when one's refrigerator does not match the existing appliances.

I can't seem to get anything to come... can anyone help me out on this?
Sorry - can't help you.  I can commiserate though.  I apparently lack the "match" gene too.  Although luckily (I guess?) my DH has it.  He will tell me things like "it's the first thing you see in the kitchen - it needs to look right because we will be staring at it for years".
Meh.  First thing I see in the kitchen is coffee.
It's not as much a matching thing as a what-will-fit-in-the-damn-cabinet-hole thing. Ours is an utter clown house with over-the-top custom features throughout. It's not our forever home, so when we sell it, matching appliances are pretty much mandatory to the buyer at this price point. We bought it on a short sale and it's 3.5 blocks to DH's work, so we're just trying to be good stewards of the home until we're through with it.
I wasn't trying to imply that you didn't have good reasons.  My apology if it sounded that way.  I was just saying that I have a deficit in the matching and decorating department.

My husband vetoed the free 1970 blue fridge in favor of buying a dent/scratch.  All I saw was "free, works good".  He saw "garish blue, uses too much energy and matches nothing". 
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: catccc on June 13, 2016, 09:35:54 AM
There are plenty of decent freezer on top models to be had, brand new, in the $500- $600 range.

This.  I've had a variety of refrigerators as a renter.  It's been nice to use/try so many types w/o it directly costing me anything (indirectly I pay through rent, of course).  The more basic, the better, IMO.  Lowe's has a well reviewed 18 cu ft for $448 right now:
http://www.lowes.com/pd/Frigidaire-18-cu-ft-Top-Freezer-Refrigerator-White/50252837
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on June 13, 2016, 12:46:17 PM
There are plenty of decent freezer on top models to be had, brand new, in the $500- $600 range.

This.  I've had a variety of refrigerators as a renter.  It's been nice to use/try so many types w/o it directly costing me anything (indirectly I pay through rent, of course).  The more basic, the better, IMO.  Lowe's has a well reviewed 18 cu ft for $448 right now:
http://www.lowes.com/pd/Frigidaire-18-cu-ft-Top-Freezer-Refrigerator-White/50252837

One thing this for us is we get a $100 rebate for energy star appliances from our electric. And as best I can tell, $0 for non-energy star, so it means upgrading something like that to the cheapest energy star ones is a much less expensive increase than if it was full price.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: HipGnosis on June 13, 2016, 01:41:01 PM
Criagslist. Just make sure it's been manufactured in the last 5 years and is energy efficient.
Why "manufactured in the last 5 years"?
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: catccc on June 13, 2016, 01:53:41 PM
There are plenty of decent freezer on top models to be had, brand new, in the $500- $600 range.

This.  I've had a variety of refrigerators as a renter.  It's been nice to use/try so many types w/o it directly costing me anything (indirectly I pay through rent, of course).  The more basic, the better, IMO.  Lowe's has a well reviewed 18 cu ft for $448 right now:
http://www.lowes.com/pd/Frigidaire-18-cu-ft-Top-Freezer-Refrigerator-White/50252837

One thing this for us is we get a $100 rebate for energy star appliances from our electric. And as best I can tell, $0 for non-energy star, so it means upgrading something like that to the cheapest energy star ones is a much less expensive increase than if it was full price.

Good point.  This $566 model would come down to $466 if you are eligible for a rebate as mentions.  http://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-17-5-cu-ft-Top-Freezer-Refrigerator-White-ENERGY-STAR/50294489
Yes, $466 is slightly more than $448.  According to the energy guides, the energy star model costs $5 less to operate per year. Not a huge difference, but you'd come out ahead in 4 years...
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Dicey on June 13, 2016, 04:18:58 PM
...It only had so-so reviews. We bought it anyway because it was the only option that fit into the custom cabinet and matched the existing appliances. ...

I am using my mind as best I can, trying to imagine the bad thing that happens when one's refrigerator does not match the existing appliances.

I can't seem to get anything to come... can anyone help me out on this?
Sorry - can't help you.  I can commiserate though.  I apparently lack the "match" gene too.  Although luckily (I guess?) my DH has it.  He will tell me things like "it's the first thing you see in the kitchen - it needs to look right because we will be staring at it for years".
Meh.  First thing I see in the kitchen is coffee.
It's not as much a matching thing as a what-will-fit-in-the-damn-cabinet-hole thing. Ours is an utter clown house with over-the-top custom features throughout. It's not our forever home, so when we sell it, matching appliances are pretty much mandatory to the buyer at this price point. We bought it on a short sale and it's 3.5 blocks to DH's work, so we're just trying to be good stewards of the home until we're through with it.
I wasn't trying to imply that you didn't have good reasons.  My apology if it sounded that way.  I was just saying that I have a deficit in the matching and decorating department.

My husband vetoed the free 1970 blue fridge in favor of buying a dent/scratch.  All I saw was "free, works good".  He saw "garish blue, uses too much energy and matches nothing".
Actually, I really appreciate the apology, Rezdent, so thanks for that. I kind of feel like Cinderella living in this crazy beautiful over the top (for me) house, so perhaps I'm a bit sensitive to perceived criticism. For the record, I fucking hate stainless steel appliances, but for now, it is what it is.

Your husband's veto made me laugh. I totally would have been on board with a blue fridge. In a different house I might have design-on-a-dimed a whole kitchen around it, but those old things are energy-sucking beasts.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on June 13, 2016, 04:26:38 PM
Actually, I really appreciate the apology, Rezdent, so thanks for that. I kind of feel like Cinderella living in this crazy beautiful over the top (for me) house, so perhaps I'm a bit sensitive to perceived criticism. For the record, I fucking hate stainless steel appliances, but for now, it what it is.

Your husband's veto made me laugh. I totally would have been on board with a blue fridge. In a different house I might have design-on-a-dimed a whole kitchen around it, but those old things are energy-sucking beasts.

Hah, I like stainless. But my kryptonite is the french door style - I absolutely love this style compared to "normal" or side by side fridges, particularly since we will have a counter that is not super far away from the fridge, so having the smaller doors has a non-trivial impact (and I hate side-by-side fridges).

Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: dycker1978 on June 13, 2016, 04:39:18 PM
All fridges come with the same components.  That is a $500 Frigidare fridge will have the same compressor, and such as the $5000 Electrolux fridge(same company).  The only difference that you will see is water/ice, and maybe the French door systems.

From my experience, the water/ice and French door system are the two most likely to fail components of any fridge.  I just bought the cheapest one the I could find new when I needed it.  It was a $500 18 cuft model.

Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Jeremy E. on June 13, 2016, 04:44:35 PM
I have an energy star fridge that I got on craigslist for $325, works great.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Reynolds531 on June 13, 2016, 06:46:25 PM
I got a floor model from Sears. Half price with an extended warranty. It promptly grenaded on me but they fixed it.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: MsPeacock on June 14, 2016, 04:03:24 AM
You probably can't wait on the purchase, but Black Friday is actually a great day to purchase appliances. There are usually crazy good deals on things like fridges, washers, dryers, etc as manufacturers close out the model year. If you are savvy and can bundle it with other deals (like rebates from your electric company) you can do really well. I got something like 65% off my fridge a couple years ago (and I went for the clown car of fridges: French doors, bottom freezer, ice maker, stainless - and I love it). 
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Fishindude on June 14, 2016, 05:48:48 AM
I just purchased a pretty basic 33", 20.5 cubic foot, white, Whirlpool fridge with top freezer, no ice maker for $699.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: elaine amj on June 14, 2016, 07:56:51 AM
There are plenty of decent freezer on top models to be had, brand new, in the $500- $600 range.

This.  I've had a variety of refrigerators as a renter.  It's been nice to use/try so many types w/o it directly costing me anything (indirectly I pay through rent, of course).  The more basic, the better, IMO.  Lowe's has a well reviewed 18 cu ft for $448 right now:
http://www.lowes.com/pd/Frigidaire-18-cu-ft-Top-Freezer-Refrigerator-White/50252837

+1 Got a super basic $400-500 fridge. There was a good sale on and we scooped up the matching stove and dishwasher for just a little more (and promptly sold our previous dishwasher for the same amount). Kinda nice to have a kitchen that matches (although if the price hadn't been right, I would have been fine staying with our old mismatched kitchen.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Cyaphas on June 16, 2016, 02:49:39 PM
Criagslist. Just make sure it's been manufactured in the last 5 years and is energy efficient.
Why "manufactured in the last 5 years"?


Longevity of the parts. The price difference between a 10yr old working fridge and a 5 year old working fridge on Craigslist in almost nothing. Why buy older parts that've been working for possibly 5 more years non-stop 24 hours a day? Also, energy start compliance standards change over time. Not sure how often.

Energy star:

http://refrigerators.reviewed.com/features/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-energy-star-fridge-standards

Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Jouer on June 16, 2016, 03:02:38 PM
Buying a fridge (or other appliance) is similar to buying a car, or other large ticket item.

1. Figure out what features you:
- need
- want
- for sure do not want

2. Go online to figure out a few models that fit that description.

3. Test prices at several stores to see which ones have the best price. Pit stores against each other to see who will price match and get the price down a little. (this works better if buying more than one appliance at a time).

For me:

- need: size (fits properly), simple
- want: freezer on the bottom, nice colour
- do not want: ice/water dispenser, other extra that might break

I was able to get size, simple, nice colour, and no ice/water dispenser in my price range. Couldn't get bottom freezer in my price range so ditched that idea....and don't miss it.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: With This Herring on June 16, 2016, 06:53:53 PM
You can get Lowe's gift cards online at up to 12% off (http://www.giftcardwiki.com/giftcards/Lowe's) (that I have found).  This site works for many different stores as well.

So:
Take a high rewards credit card
Use it to buy discounted gift cards online
Use the gift cards with a %-off coupon
And buy the fridge on the expected Independence Day sale
...unless you decide to hit up Craigslist.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: forummm on June 17, 2016, 09:32:04 AM
Mine was about $400-$500 at Home Depot maybe 5 years ago. Basic, keeps the food cold, was cheap. The energy usage is also fine. It has the option for an ice maker, but we don't use ice so I didn't spend $40 for that. I don't know why anyone would spend more for something with less storage space. It actually fits more stuff than some of the $2k-$4k models they had. Insanity.

Also, we broke the plastic bar on one of the condiment racks on the door (after shoving too many things in there for years). So we just put some clear packing tape on it to hold it together. No need to spend hundreds of dollars to get a new part for my $3k metal-plated unit with blue glowing touch displays. 10 cents of tape will do.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on June 22, 2016, 09:03:46 AM
http://www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpool-25-2-cu-ft-French-Door-Refrigerator-with-Single-Ice-Maker-Stainless-Steel-ENERGY-STAR/50059161

Good through July 12th, too, so we'll be able to get it in our new place :)

If we get the 10% moving coupon and the $100 city discount, it'll only be about $800 or so.

Might be able to get a decent rewards card in time too, not sure. I'm debating the $4k/3 month spend sapphire one since we just don't spend that much and I'm not sure we would hit $4k. I guess we could always buy giftcards for where we often spend?
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ohsnap on June 22, 2016, 10:17:58 AM
Yeah, the main reason we are looking at this big of a fridge is that the kitchen in the house we're buying was recently remodeled and as a result has a HUGE hole for the fridge. We'd be ok with a smaller one, but it'd be super awkward fitting. And the sellers wanted $1500 for their 4-year-old-even-fancier-fridge. lol NOPE!

Have you offered them $1000 for their fridge?  The fact that they wanted to sell it for $1500 means they want to sell it, you just need to agree on a price!  They might have asked $1500 for it when you signed the contract, but the closer you get to closing date, the more they will realize that there's a cost/hassle factor in trying to move it or sell it to someone else.  Have your realtor give them a call and offer $800 but be wiling to go up to $1000. Think of the hassle you'll be saving yourself!
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: CmFtns on June 22, 2016, 10:25:36 AM
Looks like Goedekers is going to kill the stores in pricing. I like the french door ones and this one at $1,068.99 (http://www.goedekers.com/Whirlpool-WRF535SMBM.html) seems reasonable enough.

I have that exact fridge... I bought it at lowes and it was on sale for $1000 and I used a 10% off mover's coupon and got it for $900. It is a very nice fridge with lots of room inside and it looks good but doesn't have the in door ice dispenser/water dispenser that seems to drive prices up so high. I actually prefer a fridge did not have those because it wastes tons of room on the inside and the front looks so nice with the uninterrupted stainless steel.

looks like goedekers has it for $920 no tax right now... That seems like a really good price

One thing this for us is we get a $100 rebate for energy star appliances from our electric. And as best I can tell, $0 for non-energy star, so it means upgrading something like that to the cheapest energy star ones is a much less expensive increase than if it was full price.

With a $100 rebate  you can get that whirlpool fridge down into the 800s I would snatch that up... It's the cheapest/best your going to get a french door/stainless. I think it's worth it when the cheapest gross almond color top freezer refrigerator will run you 500 anyway and those ones are tiny with much less room inside... It's worth the upgrade.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on June 22, 2016, 11:28:20 AM
Yeah, the main reason we are looking at this big of a fridge is that the kitchen in the house we're buying was recently remodeled and as a result has a HUGE hole for the fridge. We'd be ok with a smaller one, but it'd be super awkward fitting. And the sellers wanted $1500 for their 4-year-old-even-fancier-fridge. lol NOPE!

Have you offered them $1000 for their fridge?  The fact that they wanted to sell it for $1500 means they want to sell it, you just need to agree on a price!  They might have asked $1500 for it when you signed the contract, but the closer you get to closing date, the more they will realize that there's a cost/hassle factor in trying to move it or sell it to someone else.  Have your realtor give them a call and offer $800 but be wiling to go up to $1000. Think of the hassle you'll be saving yourself!

I see no reason to buy a fridge from them for even $800 that is 4 years old when we can buy a new one which better meets our needs for about the same price, except new :-)

I have that exact fridge... I bought it at lowes and it was on sale for $1000 and I used a 10% off mover's coupon and got it for $900. It is a very nice fridge with lots of room inside and it looks good but doesn't have the in door ice dispenser/water dispenser that seems to drive prices up so high. I actually prefer a fridge did not have those because it wastes tons of room on the inside and the front looks so nice with the uninterrupted stainless steel.

One thing this for us is we get a $100 rebate for energy star appliances from our electric. And as best I can tell, $0 for non-energy star, so it means upgrading something like that to the cheapest energy star ones is a much less expensive increase than if it was full price.

With a $100 rebate  you can get that whirlpool fridge down into the 800s I would snatch that up... It's the cheapest/best your going to get a french door/stainless. I think it's worth it when the cheapest gross almond color top freezer refrigerator will run you 500 anyway and those ones are tiny with much less room inside... It's worth the upgrade.

Yeah both my wife and I prefer no in-door water/ice, too. I don't get why everyone seems obsessed with those (particularly how much you pay for them).
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Dicey on June 22, 2016, 11:46:46 AM
Except that the microwave just went out. Would you believe $1200? Who in fuck's name pays that for a microwave? Fortunately, we found one on CL for $350. Still ain't cheap, but better than $1200. Oh yeah, it's 400 miles away from here, but we have to go that way anyway, so we'll pick it up, schlep it home and DH will install. Oy.
Heh heh, I thought I'd post an off-topic microwave update to my earlier somewhat off-topic response.

First, the guy in LA sold the replacement to someone else. (I don't blame him. Who the hell buys an appliance from so far away that isn't a scammer? I just hope he got his price.) I've been using a countertop model I freecycled to tide us over while we figured this out.

Well, the other day, someone absent-mindedly stuck something in there and turned it on. The damn thing worked! Our conclusion is that when cleaning the face of the microwave, moisture must have seeped into the sensor pad. The recent heat wave may have dried it out enough to work again. Whatever the reason, it works again! No money spent, no microwave in the landfill!

Now we're wondering how many other people this has happened to. So, if the panel on your microwave suddenly stops working, try a hair dryer, set on low, on the faceplate. Or wait for a heatwave. 'Cause of course we haven't turned the A/C on, right? Mustachianism saves the day once again.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: dcozad999 on June 22, 2016, 12:15:40 PM
We went to Best Buy and found a "dented" one and it was 50% off!  Nothing wrong with the thing unless you looked really really close.


This is absolutely the best way.  You just have to make sure you check frequently. Often the dents aren't even on the front so if you have an enclosure it won't show anyway. And if it is on the front, you can get creative with magnets and such to cover it up.

Stainless steel also adds several hundred dollars to the price of the fridge. If you check the sticker, you will often be able to see the price for black/white. Ours was $350 cheaper since we didn't go stainless.

Unfortunately for my wife and I, we had to get one almost immediately since ours went kablooie. We got it at Lowe's since they have next day delivery.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: MoonShadow on June 22, 2016, 12:19:50 PM

Is there a "best" way to shop for a fridge?


Craigslist or a scratch & dent store.  Every fridge I have ever bought has come from one of these two places.  If you like the mid-range fridges, you can typically get a not very old one in decent working condition from craigslist, because someone with more money than sense is always remodeling their kitchen somewhere.  You might have to be patient though.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Carless on June 22, 2016, 12:23:46 PM
Two points I haven't seen mentioned here; the ice/water maker in the front is less well insulated, so costs you more energy.  Also, my folks had an old (and seriously ugly) brown fridge; my dad took the doors off (and removed the hardware) and took them to a car painting place where they redid them white.   Fridge looked great again.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: MoonShadow on June 22, 2016, 12:25:02 PM
A fridge with a built in ice maker requires more energy anyway, because the water lines inside the freezer require electric heat tape to keep them from freezing up.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: libertarian4321 on June 22, 2016, 12:31:22 PM
After years of keeping our 25-year old "normal" fridge going, my wife finally convinced me to buy one of those big, silver monstrosity's with double french doors, an ice maker that would make 374 different kinds of ice, and a bunch of other crap we don't need.

It had a 1-year warranty.  By 18 months, it had busted a water line (I fixed that) and it was making loud noises and "dripping" noises (never did figure out what that was).

I'll be shocked if the thing makes it to 5-years.

More bells and whistles just means more stuff to break.

But it sure do look purty- so nice and shiny.  It's going to make a great door stop in a couple of years.

Next time, we will get a "regular" refrigerator.

Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: pbkmaine on June 22, 2016, 01:00:29 PM
Lhamo, you may be able to reconfigure the shelves.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: farmerj on June 22, 2016, 02:01:26 PM
I price-matched a refrigerator at Best Buy using the price from an internet dealer with lousy reviews, and signed up for Best Buy's credit card to get another 15% or so additional savings.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Metric Mouse on June 22, 2016, 11:55:08 PM
Except that the microwave just went out. Would you believe $1200? Who in fuck's name pays that for a microwave? Fortunately, we found one on CL for $350. Still ain't cheap, but better than $1200. Oh yeah, it's 400 miles away from here, but we have to go that way anyway, so we'll pick it up, schlep it home and DH will install. Oy.
Heh heh, I thought I'd post an off-topic microwave update to my earlier somewhat off-topic response.

First, the guy in LA sold the replacement to someone else. (I don't blame him. Who the hell buys an appliance from so far away that isn't a scammer? I just hope he got his price.) I've been using a countertop model I freecycled to tide us over while we figured this out.

Well, the other day, someone absent-mindedly stuck something in there and turned it on. The damn thing worked! Our conclusion is that when cleaning the face of the microwave, moisture must have seeped into the sensor pad. The recent heat wave may have dried it out enough to work again. Whatever the reason, it works again! No money spent, no microwave in the landfill!

Now we're wondering how many other people this has happened to. So, if the panel on your microwave suddenly stops working, try a hair dryer, set on low, on the faceplate. Or wait for a heatwave. 'Cause of course we haven't turned the A/C on, right? Mustachianism saves the day once again.

That's great. I repaired many a microwave with a few cents worth of fuzes. Made a tidy profit off every single one, but never $1200.... I'm always shocked when people say "The microwave went out." and their first thought is  "Had to buy a new one."
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: CmFtns on June 23, 2016, 02:15:08 PM
Except that the microwave just went out. Would you believe $1200? Who in fuck's name pays that for a microwave? Fortunately, we found one on CL for $350. Still ain't cheap, but better than $1200. Oh yeah, it's 400 miles away from here, but we have to go that way anyway, so we'll pick it up, schlep it home and DH will install. Oy.
Heh heh, I thought I'd post an off-topic microwave update to my earlier somewhat off-topic response.

First, the guy in LA sold the replacement to someone else. (I don't blame him. Who the hell buys an appliance from so far away that isn't a scammer? I just hope he got his price.) I've been using a countertop model I freecycled to tide us over while we figured this out.

Well, the other day, someone absent-mindedly stuck something in there and turned it on. The damn thing worked! Our conclusion is that when cleaning the face of the microwave, moisture must have seeped into the sensor pad. The recent heat wave may have dried it out enough to work again. Whatever the reason, it works again! No money spent, no microwave in the landfill!

Now we're wondering how many other people this has happened to. So, if the panel on your microwave suddenly stops working, try a hair dryer, set on low, on the faceplate. Or wait for a heatwave. 'Cause of course we haven't turned the A/C on, right? Mustachianism saves the day once again.

That's great. I repaired many a microwave with a few cents worth of fuzes. Made a tidy profit off every single one, but never $1200.... I'm always shocked when people say "The microwave went out." and their first thought is  "Had to buy a new one."

What kind of microwave costs 1200?!
When I go to lowe's the entire over range microwave section is like 200-400 for the nice stainless shiny ones?
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Dicey on June 24, 2016, 07:27:30 AM
What kind of microwave costs 1200?!
Yup, that was part of my rant. It's a SS KitchenAid. It is built-in, over the counter (not over the stove) with a door that opens down, like a breadbox. One of the (first world) problems of buying a clown house is that they tend to be filled with clownish things*, like $1200 microwaves. Plus, it's fitted into a custom cabinet, so I would have had to replace it with something similar. So happy to have dodged that bullet.

*Speaking of which, the stove/oven combo went bonkers over the holidays and DH had to completely dismantle it and use $250 worth of (cheaply internet-sourced) parts to repair it  The original price on that sucker was $10k. Not a typo. What the what? Ten grand is a nice used car!

End of FWP appliance rant.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on June 24, 2016, 08:09:30 AM
Planning on applying for the Chase Sapphire and asking for it to be expedited right after our closing - will have to do a change of address and pick up the 10% Lowe's coupon, too, and then wait a few days for the card to show up and buy our fridge.

Figure that if we buy this fridge at $998 (http://www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpool-25-2-cu-ft-French-Door-Refrigerator-with-Single-Ice-Maker-Stainless-Steel-ENERGY-STAR/50059161) with a 10% off coupon (sales tax of 7%), with the $100 utilities rebate and the CSP rewards (if you spend $4k and add an authorized user you get 59k points, or about $590 worth of cash rewards for the first $4k spending) ends up being ~15% off. 

So actual cost of the fridge is: 998 * 1.07 * 0.9 * 0.85 = $817 but with the $100 rebate putting the final out of pocket total cost at $717. I can live with that.

Though I've seen a few places say that Lowe's doesn't do the moving coupon anymore..
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Spork on June 24, 2016, 11:16:02 AM

*Speaking of which, the stove/oven combo went bonkers over the holidays and DH had to completely dismantle it and use $250 worth of (cheaply internet-sourced) parts to repair it  The original price on that sucker was $10k. Not a typo. What the what? Ten grand is a nice used car!

End of FWP appliance rant.

Totally am with you on this.  Modern appliances, while sometimes (NOT ALWAYS!) are more energy efficient, really seem to have a design lifetime of damned near nothing. 

Cars had the same issues when we first started adding computerized gizmos to them and we eventually started figuring out how to do it in a manner that started lasting more than 4-5 years.  Appliances have not yet hit that stride yet.  More often than not, simpler is better.  I guarantee my 1951 stove cooks just as good (and probably better) than any $10k stove on the market today.

We built our house in 2012.  Everything (except the old stove) was new.  We've had issues that required repair or replacement on the dishwasher, the oven, the microwave, the washer and one of the garage door openers.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: jamesbond007 on June 24, 2016, 11:20:16 AM
We bought our not so fancy but fancy looking (Stainless steel finish) GE basic model fridge for $600 at Home Depot.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: CmFtns on July 01, 2016, 10:24:44 AM
Though I've seen a few places say that Lowe's doesn't do the moving coupon anymore..

Ender, not sure if you already did your plan and bought fridge but just a note on the mover's coupon.

So they no longer have a physical coupon in the packet that is at the post office... you actually need to fill out a change of address online, which costs $1, to get it. So I actually moved 4 months ago and when I did my change of address online it asked me afterward if I would like any coupons and had various offers which you could choose and one of them was lowes 10% off which was then emailed to me.

When my parents mentioned they were buying a new grill from lowes for father's day a few weeks ago I told them how I got my coupon... so we "moved" one of my younger siblings to my address and then canceled it right afterward and we got the coupon again... so $1 for a 10% off coupon still worked a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Proud Foot on July 01, 2016, 11:07:59 AM

It's not as much a matching thing as a what-will-fit-in-the-damn-cabinet-hole thing. Ours is an utter clown house with over-the-top custom features throughout. It's not our forever home, so when we sell it, matching appliances are pretty much mandatory to the buyer at this price point. We bought it on a short sale and it's 3.5 blocks to DH's work, so we're just trying to be good stewards of the home until we're through with it.


I didn't see you say it in this thread but think about how long you will stay in the home.  If it will be a while it might be worth getting a cheaper one now and then upgrading to a matching one before you sell.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on July 01, 2016, 08:57:21 PM
Ender, not sure if you already did your plan and bought fridge but just a note on the mover's coupon.

So they no longer have a physical coupon in the packet that is at the post office... you actually need to fill out a change of address online, which costs $1, to get it. So I actually moved 4 months ago and when I did my change of address online it asked me afterward if I would like any coupons and had various offers which you could choose and one of them was lowes 10% off which was then emailed to me.

When my parents mentioned they were buying a new grill from lowes for father's day a few weeks ago I told them how I got my coupon... so we "moved" one of my younger siblings to my address and then canceled it right afterward and we got the coupon again... so $1 for a 10% off coupon still worked a few weeks ago.

Sweet, this is good to know - we did this in person today and didn't get one (and applied for an expedited CSP today too, hopefully will arrive early next week -- maybe tomorrow if we're super lucky???).

Local Lowe's says it's.... about a week before they could deliver and they do offer free delivery, so we'll see. That's... annoying.

We might call around since apparently they do free delivery within 75 miles. Which would be amusing if a further away one would deliver.

Also might just bite the bullet and go get the fridge tomorrow while we have a moving truck, too. Not sure if we want to wait a week to get a fridge, might be really nice to buy it and get it tomorrow while we have help too. And just figure out other ways to get to $4k spend for the CSP bonus...
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Dicey on July 01, 2016, 10:13:14 PM

It's not as much a matching thing as a what-will-fit-in-the-damn-cabinet-hole thing. Ours is an utter clown house with over-the-top custom features throughout. It's not our forever home, so when we sell it, matching appliances are pretty much mandatory to the buyer at this price point. We bought it on a short sale and it's 3.5 blocks to DH's work, so we're just trying to be good stewards of the home until we're through with it.


I didn't see you say it in this thread but think about how long you will stay in the home.  If it will be a while it might be worth getting a cheaper one now and then upgrading to a matching one before you sell.

Haha, check out my update at the end of page one.

Tl;dr version: The fucker fixed itself! Hallelujah!
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: PMG on July 02, 2016, 03:06:01 AM
Maybe moving coupons vary by state?  I moved twice in the past year, both within KY. Both times I filed the form online for free and got instant email coupons and a second set mailed to me. Both coupons were valid.


Though I've seen a few places say that Lowe's doesn't do the moving coupon anymore..

Ender, not sure if you already did your plan and bought fridge but just a note on the mover's coupon.

So they no longer have a physical coupon in the packet that is at the post office... you actually need to fill out a change of address online, which costs $1, to get it. So I actually moved 4 months ago and when I did my change of address online it asked me afterward if I would like any coupons and had various offers which you could choose and one of them was lowes 10% off which was then emailed to me.

When my parents mentioned they were buying a new grill from lowes for father's day a few weeks ago I told them how I got my coupon... so we "moved" one of my younger siblings to my address and then canceled it right afterward and we got the coupon again... so $1 for a 10% off coupon still worked a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: CmFtns on July 02, 2016, 08:05:16 AM
Ender, not sure if you already did your plan and bought fridge but just a note on the mover's coupon.

So they no longer have a physical coupon in the packet that is at the post office... you actually need to fill out a change of address online, which costs $1, to get it. So I actually moved 4 months ago and when I did my change of address online it asked me afterward if I would like any coupons and had various offers which you could choose and one of them was lowes 10% off which was then emailed to me.

When my parents mentioned they were buying a new grill from lowes for father's day a few weeks ago I told them how I got my coupon... so we "moved" one of my younger siblings to my address and then canceled it right afterward and we got the coupon again... so $1 for a 10% off coupon still worked a few weeks ago.

Sweet, this is good to know - we did this in person today and didn't get one (and applied for an expedited CSP today too, hopefully will arrive early next week -- maybe tomorrow if we're super lucky???).

Local Lowe's says it's.... about a week before they could deliver and they do offer free delivery, so we'll see. That's... annoying.

We might call around since apparently they do free delivery within 75 miles. Which would be amusing if a further away one would deliver.

Also might just bite the bullet and go get the fridge tomorrow while we have a moving truck, too. Not sure if we want to wait a week to get a fridge, might be really nice to buy it and get it tomorrow while we have help too. And just figure out other ways to get to $4k spend for the CSP bonus...

It is very big I recommend taking the free delivery unless you have an appliance dolly and 2 big/strong people. I was going to pick mine up with my trailer so I could get it a couple days sooner but once they brought it out for me and I saw it on the pallet I decided to change to delivery because it was HUGE.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on July 03, 2016, 05:27:45 PM
It is very big I recommend taking the free delivery unless you have an appliance dolly and 2 big/strong people. I was going to pick mine up with my trailer so I could get it a couple days sooner but once they brought it out for me and I saw it on the pallet I decided to change to delivery because it was HUGE.

We're definitely going to do delivery. Lowe's will do everything but connect the water (liability thing apparently for them) for free as part of buying it. Just have to get the connectors.

Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: horsepoor on July 05, 2016, 11:36:03 AM
You can get a 10% off coupon from mycheapcoupons.com for like $2 if you can't get one from the post office.

Delivery is the way to go.  That way, they're responsible for getting it hooked up and making sure it works.  We moved our big side-by side to our current house and it was a huge PITA, even though I have a horse trailer with a nice ramp, and we have a great dolly that supports loads at 45 degrees.  Let them figure out how to get it through doors/up stairs, etc.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: golden1 on July 05, 2016, 12:00:52 PM
You know, I have certain luxury cravings that I just can't shake, but fancy appliances aren't one of them. I moved into my house in 1999 and bought a Kenmore basic fridge for $400.  17 years later and it is still going strong.  I broke one of the shelves while cleaning it and had to get it replaced, but otherwise, it has held up great.  It keeps things cold and that is it.  My mil, while very frugal in other ways, loves the fancy appliances.  She got a stainless fridge with an ice maker and the filtered water that comes out of the door.  Both broke a few years later.  She also has a super fancy washer and dryer - I think they cost $3-4K for the set.  I have the cheapest model money can buy - maybe both were $1k total.  They clean my clothes just fine. 

The dishwasher I have is the exception and was the one lemon purchase I made.  It was a really cheap one and it just doesn't clean the dishes very well.  I clean the filter every week or so and it still leaves residue in the cups.  I use mine heavily, running it once or twice a day. 
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on July 05, 2016, 01:38:55 PM
You can get a 10% off coupon from mycheapcoupons.com for like $2 if you can't get one from the post office.

Delivery is the way to go.  That way, they're responsible for getting it hooked up and making sure it works.  We moved our big side-by side to our current house and it was a huge PITA, even though I have a horse trailer with a nice ramp, and we have a great dolly that supports loads at 45 degrees.  Let them figure out how to get it through doors/up stairs, etc.

I did the change of address online, which gave me a coupon (which we're going to put to great effect buying all the house stuff we want to get at Lowe's).
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Proud Foot on July 05, 2016, 03:12:23 PM

It's not as much a matching thing as a what-will-fit-in-the-damn-cabinet-hole thing. Ours is an utter clown house with over-the-top custom features throughout. It's not our forever home, so when we sell it, matching appliances are pretty much mandatory to the buyer at this price point. We bought it on a short sale and it's 3.5 blocks to DH's work, so we're just trying to be good stewards of the home until we're through with it.


I didn't see you say it in this thread but think about how long you will stay in the home.  If it will be a while it might be worth getting a cheaper one now and then upgrading to a matching one before you sell.

Haha, check out my update at the end of page one.

Tl;dr version: The fucker fixed itself! Hallelujah!

That's awesome!!
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on July 11, 2016, 06:32:19 PM
I did the change of address online, which gave me a coupon (which we're going to put to great effect buying all the house stuff we want to get at Lowe's).

Lessons learned:


I sent Chase customer service an email asking if they could credit me the extra bonus points, since I spent something like $1300 (and could have done so online had I realized it).
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Metric Mouse on July 11, 2016, 07:22:18 PM
I did the change of address online, which gave me a coupon (which we're going to put to great effect buying all the house stuff we want to get at Lowe's).

Lessons learned:

  • Chase Sapphire Preferred card has a 3% cash back if you use their online store (instead of 1%). I found this out... after I bought everything at Lowes
  • You get a paper coupon and an electronic one if you fill out the address change

I sent Chase customer service an email asking if they could credit me the extra bonus points, since I spent something like $1300 (and could have done so online had I realized it).

Lowe's has a credit card - 5% cash back on purchases made in their store. Probably would have been worth signing up for, at that much money spent.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on July 11, 2016, 08:25:29 PM
Lowe's has a credit card - 5% cash back on purchases made in their store. Probably would have been worth signing up for, at that much money spent.

The CSP card I signed up for to make this is going to be about 15% cash back - for the first $4000 in spending and the 55k bonus points (50k bonus, 5k authorized user, and the 4k points for spending 4k), you get $590 in cash rewards.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Cadman on July 11, 2016, 08:38:46 PM
I just have to chime in as this may be the only time in MMM-Forum history that I'm the least spendy-pants person in a thread : )

Kitchen fridge is a '65 GE in turquoise...might have given $100 for it some years ago. Drink fridge is a '52 Coldspot, free. Freezer is a pre-war design Deep Freeze cylinder from an estate sale (best $50 I ever spent). All are solid, quiet, well-insulated, repairable and use practically nothing for electricity as they're all pre-frost-free. People have a hard time accepting that, but the Kill-a-watt data helps. -C
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: MoonShadow on July 11, 2016, 10:26:06 PM
I just have to chime in as this may be the only time in MMM-Forum history that I'm the least spendy-pants person in a thread : )

Kitchen fridge is a '65 GE in turquoise...might have given $100 for it some years ago. Drink fridge is a '52 Coldspot, free. Freezer is a pre-war design Deep Freeze cylinder from an estate sale (best $50 I ever spent). All are solid, quiet, well-insulated, repairable and use practically nothing for electricity as they're all pre-frost-free. People have a hard time accepting that, but the Kill-a-watt data helps. -C

I can still beat your usage with a modern fridge, simply by cutting & capping the frost heater circuit.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: SethB on July 11, 2016, 10:42:39 PM
Bought a plain white Whirlpool 18 cubic foot for $500 new in 1992.  Still runs great

My utility is replacing pre 1992 appliances... for free.

I replaced a 1983 model with a new Energy Star model... for free.

Estimated energy savings are $130/yr.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Cadman on July 12, 2016, 11:19:38 AM
MoonShadow, not sure if you're joking or not but that would quickly render your modern fridge inop and likely trip out your compressor (assuming they're still using resettable OCPD's on comps these days, less you'd really be in it). Ignoring the fact today's fridges have plastic lined freezers and lack defrost drains, the systems are just not up to the task of overcoming the frost accumulation that builds up in a humid environment without some sort of 'assist'.

Granted, it's not all sunshine and lollipops as I do have to manually defrost them once in a while, but for $2/mo running cost I'm not going to complain.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: CNM on July 12, 2016, 11:29:00 AM
Im surprised to hear that people like the french door design on fridges.  My in-laws have one like that, and I find it maddening.  Unless you have a shockingly good memory as to which side you put something in the fridge (and no one has moved it!), then you end up needing to open both sides to look inside.  The design drives me nuts!
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Rollin on July 12, 2016, 12:58:45 PM
Ok, we will need a fridge starting July 1st or so (closing then and don't have a fridge).

It seems that:

  • Most are absurdly fancy and overpriced (do people really buy the $2k+ ones?)
  • Variation on prices is +/- 50% for the same model
  • Something is always heavily discounted

Is there a "best" way to shop for a fridge? We're going to try to sign up for the Chase 50k rewards card before committing to a purchase. Ideally find a fridge which has a scratch or blemish, I guess. Not very many stores locally that have refrigerators though.

Strategy so far was look at stuff in stores then go online and find good prices. Looks like Goedekers is going to kill the stores in pricing. I like the french door ones and this one at $1,068.99 (http://www.goedekers.com/Whirlpool-WRF535SMBM.html) seems reasonable enough.


Is there a better way? It feels like a racket.

Go to energystar.gov and see if you can get a rebate.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Cassie on July 12, 2016, 02:35:58 PM
Our 11 yo fridge died over the 4th so we had to buy a new one. We went to Sears scratch and dent and got a stainless french door with freezer on bottom for 1380.00.  Instead of putting the water and ice in the door it is in the freezer and fridge so I guess they don't break as often.  When our last ones broke we just did without those features. I love the French doors.  You don't go into the freezer that often so having it on the bottom is perfect.   
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: MoonShadow on July 12, 2016, 06:54:33 PM
MoonShadow, not sure if you're joking or not but that would quickly render your modern fridge inop and likely trip out your compressor

Nope.  I've done it.  The defrost circuit is just a long heater wire.  If your fridge has a computer, it might complain about it, but it should still work.  You'd be surprised how many ways common appliances can be modified...

https://firstbuild.com/

http://www.lvl1.org/
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: ender on July 12, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
Our 11 yo fridge died over the 4th so we had to buy a new one. We went to Sears scratch and dent and got a stainless french door with freezer on bottom for 1380.00.  Instead of putting the water and ice in the door it is in the freezer and fridge so I guess they don't break as often.  When our last ones broke we just did without those features. I love the French doors.  You don't go into the freezer that often so having it on the bottom is perfect.   

That seems very expensive, you paid $400 more than ours was for a brand new one?
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Cadman on July 12, 2016, 08:09:43 PM
Moonshadow, more power to ya! Another recommendation is to replace the (usually shaded-pole for cost reasons) evaporator fan motor with a high efficiency type. Not an option for me as my fridges don't have fans, but one of my hobbies is collecting and restoring appliances and it's a popular conversion.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Metric Mouse on July 12, 2016, 09:45:17 PM
MoonShadow, not sure if you're joking or not but that would quickly render your modern fridge inop and likely trip out your compressor

Nope.  I've done it.  The defrost circuit is just a long heater wire.  If your fridge has a computer, it might complain about it, but it should still work.  You'd be surprised how many ways common appliances can be modified...

https://firstbuild.com/

http://www.lvl1.org/

I've never even considered that it might be possible to modify appliances... seems that I've missed out.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: MoonShadow on July 12, 2016, 11:28:25 PM
MoonShadow, not sure if you're joking or not but that would quickly render your modern fridge inop and likely trip out your compressor

Nope.  I've done it.  The defrost circuit is just a long heater wire.  If your fridge has a computer, it might complain about it, but it should still work.  You'd be surprised how many ways common appliances can be modified...

https://firstbuild.com/

http://www.lvl1.org/

I've never even considered that it might be possible to modify appliances... seems that I've missed out.

Yes, hardware hacking really is a thing.  Some of the mods are downright useful, but most are just gimmicky, to be honest. 
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Metric Mouse on July 12, 2016, 11:33:26 PM
That's one of the reasons I love this forum!
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: jrhampt on July 13, 2016, 04:52:24 AM
We went to Best Buy and found a "dented" one and it was 50% off!  Nothing wrong with the thing unless you looked really really close.

I, too, get all my appliances at the Sears "ding and dent" place...seems to be a popular option in this thread.
Title: Re: Refrigerators... why... just why
Post by: Cassie on July 13, 2016, 05:04:53 PM
Ender: it was a 2k refrigerator and it was new. It just had a small dent on the side.