We did what we could. Looked for an older used one, or even a newer used one, unsuccessfully. Went to our local appliance guys, who confirmed that all of the new models are crap, whether we pay $7,000 or $500. So we went for the lower number. It's ridiculous that I am considered an outlier because I use my oven several times a week -- uh, doh, isn't that what an oven is FOR?? This experience makes me think, "We are all suckas."