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Title: Quick Job Seeking Question
Post by: oldtoyota on May 19, 2013, 08:55:40 PM
I'm applying for a job via one of those databases that takes your resume and cover letter and then asks a bunch of questions. I do not--obviously--want them to contact my current employer and selected a check-off box that said "no" to them contacting my current employer.

On the very last page of the process, it says this:
"I hereby authorize NAME OF COMPANY to inquire of and receive information from my current and former employers as to my character and ability and release all persons from liability for doing so."

So, no doubt my current boss would say good things about me...but probably not to a place that would want to hire me! He'd be steamed I'm leaving--at least a bit.

I either agree to the wording and risk them contacting my current place or not apply, right?

Title: Re: Quick Job Seeking Question
Post by: secondcor521 on May 19, 2013, 09:43:10 PM
You're asking the wrong question.

The truth is the chance of you getting a job by applying online via a database (?) is approximately zero.

I would cancel the application now.
Title: Re: Quick Job Seeking Question
Post by: oldtoyota on May 20, 2013, 08:16:16 AM
You're asking the wrong question.

The truth is the chance of you getting a job by applying online via a database (?) is approximately zero.

I would cancel the application now.

I know people say that, but it's not my experience. I got my current job via employer database.

Title: Re: Quick Job Seeking Question
Post by: jrhampt on May 20, 2013, 08:17:46 AM
I also got my current job through an online application.
Title: Re: Quick Job Seeking Question
Post by: FlorenceMcGillicutty on May 20, 2013, 08:28:01 AM
If I were you, I would try to have a real conversation with HR and/or the hiring manager. If it's with HR, then ask them about the likelihood of them calling your boss.

The best option would be to have an informational interview with the hiring manager. Can someone arrange an introduction for you? You can't be more than two points of contact away from him/her. Once you are able to talk to a human about your qualifications for the job, THEN you apply via the database. Obviously, I would only do this if you are very interested in the job and think it would be a good fit. If this is the kind of thing your applying to for sh*ts and grins, you should reconsider because of the possibility of them contacting your current employer.
Title: Re: Quick Job Seeking Question
Post by: oldtoyota on May 20, 2013, 12:09:27 PM
If I were you, I would try to have a real conversation with HR and/or the hiring manager. If it's with HR, then ask them about the likelihood of them calling your boss.

The best option would be to have an informational interview with the hiring manager. Can someone arrange an introduction for you? You can't be more than two points of contact away from him/her. Once you are able to talk to a human about your qualifications for the job, THEN you apply via the database. Obviously, I would only do this if you are very interested in the job and think it would be a good fit. If this is the kind of thing your applying to for sh*ts and grins, you should reconsider because of the possibility of them contacting your current employer.

Thanks. Good points. I'd considered researching who the hiring manager is and seeing if we had anyone in common who could introduce me. I think I'm going to take a pass on it though. Although the job sounds amazing, I realized that the distance would make for a long commute. In the end, I would be unhappy commuting--and it's not the sort of place to allow telecommuting often enough to make the distance worth it. Next!