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Prius Questions
« on: October 29, 2015, 06:47:01 PM »
I have a nice, big minivan that MMM has prompted me to want to get rid of, and I am looking at a Prius. I don't see myself cutting commuting mileage much in the next few years, about 30 miles/day.
My boss drives a Prius, and raves about it. Last time I asked, she was getting about 52 MPG and had 298,000 miles on it. Sounds good to me.
I am not a car guy, and pay very little attention to cars unless I am in the market, so I really have no idea what the options might be.
So, my questions: Are there any downsides to a Prius, other than a rather inflated used-car cost?
Are there any similar cars by other makers I should also be looking into? My two goals are reducing driving costs and low maintenance worries.
Thanks.

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2015, 07:00:07 PM »
I have a nice, big minivan that MMM has prompted me to want to get rid of, and I am looking at a Prius. I don't see myself cutting commuting mileage much in the next few years, about 30 miles/day.
My boss drives a Prius, and raves about it. Last time I asked, she was getting about 52 MPG and had 298,000 miles on it. Sounds good to me.
I am not a car guy, and pay very little attention to cars unless I am in the market, so I really have no idea what the options might be.
So, my questions: Are there any downsides to a Prius, other than a rather inflated used-car cost?
Are there any similar cars by other makers I should also be looking into? My two goals are reducing driving costs and low maintenance worries.
Thanks.

Have you read any of the existing threads on the Prius? The subject has been beaten to death, and you're at risk of attracting the folk to this thread who try to pretend the Prius is a made-up car for people who are smug old hipster treehuggers.

For what it's worth, I'm a southern redneck who owns a 2011 Prius approaching 80,000 miles. Your boss is right, buy one. And quit whining about the used car cost, it's super-cheap for what it is. Just stay with the Gen3 model.

Also note: the 2016 Prius has undergone a redesign. I like the looks of it, but I am now too tall to fit in the back seat of the 2016. It's like they turned the back seat into a "kids only" area or something. 

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2015, 07:19:54 PM »
I recently bought a Ford C-Max hybrid.  Price was a major consideration -- it was about $5k cheaper new than a Prius V, which was what I originally thought i want.  I really like the C-Max.  I'm getting 45mpg with mostly city driving, the driver seat height is adjustable (I found the Prius seat to be waaaay too low as a short person, and the car is significantly quieter than the Prius on the freeway.  I paid about $20k total after all discounts, including taxes and fees. 

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2015, 07:46:52 PM »
I love my Prius. I've had a 2011 Prius for a little over two years. I have tons of storage/towing space, we take it camping, on trips and always have plenty of room. I get around 42mpg but my drive to work is hilly and  sometimes I have a lead foot...

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 07:58:31 PM »


Have you read any of the existing threads on the Prius?

Ah, no. I have not seen any of these posts. I am new around here, and usually stick to the first page or two of posts. I'll go looking.

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 08:09:00 PM »
I bought an 06 (Gen II) about 2 years ago and love the car. It is almost cavernous in the amount of interior room. The backseat area is LARGE, like lounge big. Cost of ownership over those 2 years is ridiculously cheap. Just oil/filter changes. I did have the transmission oil changed just after I got it and boy was that cheap at $60. I came from a VW GTI where everything was at least twice as expensive as non-German cars. I will say that it does take some getting used to since it is a hybrid. It is pretty quick to get used to and then before you know it, you're getting 50+ MPG and not gassing up for 3 weeks at a time. Good luck.

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 09:11:01 PM »
and you're at risk of attracting the folk to this thread who try to pretend the Prius is a made-up car for people who are smug old hipster treehuggers.

My impression of most Prius drivers in my area is that they think their Prius can do 0-60 in 3 seconds (probably forgot they got a Prius, not a Tesla), and so drive accordingly. Hahahhahaha... my old coworker made fun of Prius drivers who he would see leaning into their gas pedals to try to speed up so as to prevent him from changing lanes in front of them (this is a common Southern California driving behavior though of people who drive all sorts of cars LOL)
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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 11:07:19 PM »

My impression of most Prius drivers in my area is that they think their Prius can do 0-60 in 3 seconds (probably forgot they got a Prius, not a Tesla), and so drive accordingly. Hahahhahaha... my old coworker made fun of Prius drivers who he would see leaning into their gas pedals to try to speed up so as to prevent him from changing lanes in front of them (this is a common Southern California driving behavior though of people who drive all sorts of cars LOL)

While that may very well be true of most drivers, not just in SoCA, there is a justifiable reason to speed up from a red. A strategy for getting more MPG in a Prius is called the "pulse and glide". So you punch it until you get to your cruising speed, then back off and try to "glide". Basically not using gas or battery power, almost like rolling in neutral. Then when you slow a bit, just lightly hit the gas to engage the battery power which can sustain your speed. Rinse and repeat. Helps you get really high MPG instead of the slow constant of building speed over time which decreases your MPG.

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 11:28:13 PM »
and you're at risk of attracting the folk to this thread who try to pretend the Prius is a made-up car for people who are smug old hipster treehuggers.

My impression of most Prius drivers in my area is that they think their Prius can do 0-60 in 3 seconds (probably forgot they got a Prius, not a Tesla), and so drive accordingly. Hahahhahaha... my old coworker made fun of Prius drivers who he would see leaning into their gas pedals to try to speed up so as to prevent him from changing lanes in front of them (this is a common Southern California driving behavior though of people who drive all sorts of cars LOL)

If you were a real man, you'd ride a bike. I'll bet you drive a Ford sExpedition with one of those calvin-and-hobbes peeing on a chevy bowtie stickers on the back window. :-)

EDIT: Added the smiley face. Not intending to attack that hard. :-)
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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2015, 01:00:31 AM »
Only suggestion is to get a version with a back-up camera or install an aftermarket one. Rear window visibility sucks. Otherwise our car (a 2014) is great.

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2015, 09:04:58 AM »
Only suggestion is to get a version with a back-up camera or install an aftermarket one. Rear window visibility sucks. Otherwise our car (a 2014) is great.

+1. When I saw 2014's with the built-in backup camera I was very jealous.

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2015, 09:22:31 AM »
and you're at risk of attracting the folk to this thread who try to pretend the Prius is a made-up car for people who are smug old hipster treehuggers.

My impression of most Prius drivers in my area is that they think their Prius can do 0-60 in 3 seconds (probably forgot they got a Prius, not a Tesla), and so drive accordingly. Hahahhahaha... my old coworker made fun of Prius drivers who he would see leaning into their gas pedals to try to speed up so as to prevent him from changing lanes in front of them (this is a common Southern California driving behavior though of people who drive all sorts of cars LOL)

If you were a real man, you'd ride a bike. I'll bet you drive a Ford sExpedition with one of those calvin-and-hobbes peeing on a chevy bowtie stickers on the back window. :-)

EDIT: Added the smiley face. Not intending to attack that hard. :-)

Hey, I was a real man (aka I rode my bike) for about 2 months or so while my Camry was sitting without a door and fender in the garage. Then I finally replaced those (with a mismatching color door fender)  AND rejuvenated its dead car battery (from sitting so long) before getting it back in drive-able condition. What really made me a real man was spending half a day at the local junkyard looking for the door and fender, and prying it off. My wife was there to support me in my journey to manhood. I hope to never return to such a wretched place, where the ground is covered in layers of slippery oil and dirt.

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2015, 09:23:31 AM »
and you're at risk of attracting the folk to this thread who try to pretend the Prius is a made-up car for people who are smug old hipster treehuggers.

My impression of most Prius drivers in my area is that they think their Prius can do 0-60 in 3 seconds (probably forgot they got a Prius, not a Tesla), and so drive accordingly. Hahahhahaha... my old coworker made fun of Prius drivers who he would see leaning into their gas pedals to try to speed up so as to prevent him from changing lanes in front of them (this is a common Southern California driving behavior though of people who drive all sorts of cars LOL)

If you were a real man, you'd ride a bike. I'll bet you drive a Ford sExpedition with one of those calvin-and-hobbes peeing on a chevy bowtie stickers on the back window. :-)

EDIT: Added the smiley face. Not intending to attack that hard. :-)

Hey, I was a real man (aka I rode my bike) for about 2 months or so while my Camry was sitting without a door and fender in the garage. Then I finally replaced those (with a mismatching color door fender)  AND rejuvenated its dead car battery (from sitting so long) before getting it back in drive-able condition. What really made me a real man was spending half a day at the local junkyard looking for the door and fender, and prying it off. My wife was there to support me in my journey to manhood. I hope to never return to such a wretched place, where the ground is covered in layers of slippery oil and dirt.

:D

Manly, yes.....

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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 10:14:45 AM »
Since this might help the OP or others looking right now: this week I bought a new 2015 Prius two for $18.4k plus ~$350 in fees/registration (in an area where Toyota is running a 3k rebate on Prius). Dealers are trying to move their 2015 Prius cars to make room for the 2016, which will be a new generation of Prius.

We got a lot of buying advice from this thread:

http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/ask-a-mustachian/buying-a-2015-prius-two-suggestions/

Here is what I recommend doing (most of this comes from that thread). I recommend starting with TrueCar to get a good quote. Then email the nearest 20-or-so dealerships, and ask if they can beat it. Let them know the exact date you want to pick up the car (ideally, a few days from the email, and at the end of a month). Tell them you don't need a test drive, since you are familiar with the car. And tell them how you will pay for the car, and whether you have a trade in, in the original email.

My mistake was switching from email to phone during the process. You want to get all of your quotes in writing, since dealers will ask you if you have a quote in writing.

I spent far-too long looking for a used Prius before deciding to go new. There are definitely deals to be had if you search on Craigslist, but my DW really wanted certified preowned if we went used. If you go the certified preowned route, you can look at the Carfax of every car, which will show you when the dealership bought/certified the car (so you can know how long the car has been on the lot). I emailed around quite a bit, and had a difficult time getting much past $500 under the black-book value of cars; even for cars that had been on the lot 2-3 months. I was hoping the rebates on new Prius would trickle down to the used market, but I was surprised that this didn't seem the case. The best I could do on certified used was $16.8k on a 2014 with ~40k miles.

Anyhow, I hope this info is helpful if you are comparing cars in similar price ranges.
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Re: Prius Questions
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 11:26:18 AM »
Is it wrong that I secretly hope one of our PERFECTLY running used cars needs replacement soon so I can buy a prius or a leaf? lol

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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2015, 11:46:02 AM »
Is it wrong that I secretly hope one of our PERFECTLY running used cars needs replacement soon so I can buy a prius or a leaf? lol

Oh hell no it's not wrong. If I wanted to spend the cash, I'd damn near wreck my F-150 to replace it with another Prius....(we have one already, a 2011)

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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2015, 01:09:52 PM »
I have a 2015 Prius 2 that I bought about a year ago.  This came standard with the backup camera, and I don't know that I would buy one without it.  Rear visibility is really not that good.
 
I have 3 kids - a 5'2" tall nine-year-old, and two smaller kids in booster seats.  They fit in the backseat with plenty of room.  They actually like this car better than our Honda Civic or my old Subaru Forester because of the extra space.

I drive 30 miles each way on congested freeways and average about 55 mpg. 

It's a great car.

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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2015, 01:17:09 PM »
LOVE my '07 Prius.  Bought it used in 2013 with 100k miles (from my mom who was trading it in -- lucky me!).   It's a base model in all respects except it does have a backup camera.

It now has 153,000 miles on it and going strong.  I've camped in it (Habitents), hauled cinder block in it, moved a full-sized stove, brought home a large pantry cabinet from Lowes, and more. 

Right now with gas at $1.90, I can fill up for $12 which gets me 400 + miles of driving. 

When it's time, I'll buy another one.

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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2015, 01:34:41 PM »
Only suggestion is to get a version with a back-up camera or install an aftermarket one. Rear window visibility sucks. Otherwise our car (a 2014) is great.
Yes!  Rear visibility in a Prius (and many other newer cars) is horrible.  My mom bought a 2015 Prius this year WITH a backup camera and she managed to back into my neighbor's car the first time she visited. The very idea of a backup camera is quite ridiculous, but certain cars' designs make it pretty close to a must.

My 90s cars have fine visibility even when the rear-view mirror in one decided to fall down off the windshield (that was fun).

Run the numbers and make sure the gas savings pencil out.  Compare it to other not-quite-as-efficient non-hybrid subcompacts such as a Yaris or Fit.  Unless you plan on driving it past something insane like 400,000 miles, I would not count replacing the main hybrid battery pack.  From what I read, they last a surprising amount of time, and (more importantly) the operation and efficiency of the car isn't impacted very much by a worn out battery (citation needed, but I remember reading that a Prius battery pack worn down to only 30% its normal capacity only lowered overall gas mileage by something like 3-4%).

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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2015, 02:53:58 PM »
Count me with the Prius owners and lovers. 05, bought new (with a 3K premium...I'm smarter now...). I've owned everything from Toyota's smallest 4-cylinder pickup to a Triumph TR6 to a BMW 325i. The Prius is comfortable, fast, roomy, and low-maintenance. In hilly SE Tennessee we stay around 50 mpg.

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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2015, 07:50:31 PM »

 There's an 07 Prius with 134,000 miles for sale just down the road. I might just buy that tomorrow – we've decided the time has come to pull the trigger on a replacement vehicle.  Asking price is $7000, more than I've ever spent on a car, but maybe…


Do you guys who own one think I would absolutely tear it up driving it up and down a steep dirt driveway twice a day? We're talking significant  elevation change over about a quarter of a mile driveway.  Lots of rocks, and no way to avoid them getting slung up on the undercarriage.  I could buy a couple of new cars for what would take to pave the thing though.

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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2015, 08:22:49 PM »
Thanks. Lots to think about.
I plan to sell my 2011 minivan, and hopefully get enough out of it to pay for a 2006-9 Prius with a bit left over.
Where are all the Prius haters though? Nothing to say? ;-)
How about other, similar options?