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Mustachian Sunscreen
« on: November 14, 2020, 09:46:51 PM »
I use sunscreen everyday, and I'm always on the lookout for a cheap, high SPF and broad spectrum sunscreen.

My favorite in terms of affordability, non-stickiness and SPF/PA ratings: the Bioré Aqua Rich Watery Gel, SPF 50 / PA ++++. PHP 532 (~USD 11) for a bottle that lasts me about a week and a half. It's a Japanese sunscreen and is widely available locally. I don't think it's that popular in the US/Europe, though.

I'm curious, what sunscreens do all you Mustachians use?

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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2020, 10:22:19 PM »
Posting to follow. I've been lusting after the Super Goop sunscreen but man is it expensive. If there's a cheaper but still really great option (especially for everyday face sunscreen) I'm all ears.

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2020, 10:39:10 PM »
Hat with a wide brim.

Long sleeve shirt.

Long sleeve pants.

Gallon jug of water for drinking and occasionally pouring on my hat/shirt.  I've posted about my reuse of that previously, but it got derailed into a discussion of microplastics and how I ought not do that.

I live in a dry enough area that I can get away with it, and have a bit of a farmer's tan from when I haven't always worn long sleeve shirts working outside, but still not particularly tan.  I hate the feel of sunscreen and other stuff on my skin, so go out of my way to avoid it without getting crispy.  I'm of the "Burns if I think too hard about the sun" variety, and halfway through the summer, wear long sleeves/pants to avoid being a blinding hazard to others.

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2020, 10:56:30 PM »
Yes, I cover up with long sleeves if I'm going to the beach, and always wear a hat. But even when going to work--day to day--it's important for me to wear sunscreen (I live in Honolulu) and I've never been able to find light weight face sunscreen that wasn't super expensive.

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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2020, 11:16:55 PM »
I spend a lot of time in the water and the sun out here is no joke. I use whatever mineral sunscreen is on sale, which can be a third of the retail price. Often it's the "baby" kind. It makes my skin look whiter. But mostly I really don't expose skin if the sun is high enough that my shadow is shorter than me. 95% of my outings are within 3 hours of sunrise or sundown. If I really gotta go in the middle of the day, I'll wear long sleeves and even a "indo" hat.


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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2020, 04:58:09 AM »
Are you looking for cheap sunscreen or for inexpensive, high end face sunscreen?

The sunscreen you're using is Korean, and they have way more options available to them for UV filtration. The US hasn't approved any additional UV filters since 1999, but Korea has approved boat loads of them. They're not superior in terms of sun protection, but they're wildly superior in terms of texture, skin care, and ability to be layered with makeup.

So if you are looking for practical sun protection, then yes, UV fabrics, a hat, and whatever sunscreen is on sale will work.

However, if you are looking for high end, nicely textured face sunscreen like what you're using, then do more research on Korean sunscreens, learn to understand how their labeling system works, and choose the most economical option. Although, what you're using is one of the cheaper Korean sunscreens anyway, but there are some that you can find online for less.

I actually use the same one you do, but only on days where I care what my face looks like. Otherwise I slop on the generic drug store brand.

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2020, 05:23:03 AM »
@Malcat thanks, but it's more of a curious question / slight boredom with my current sunscreen.

That said, I'm pretty happy with the Bioré sunscreen I use (made by a Japanese company, not Korean). There are some cheaper brands available where I live, but none come close to Bioré's combination of cosmetically elegant and affordable.

Also, I live in a part of the world where long-sleeved clothing is not practical (tropical climate), but where people routinely use umbrellas to shield themselves from the sun. Much better than hats, in my opinion.

I walk to work, so I'll usually have on sunscreen + umbrella + one of those Uniqlo face masks with UPF50 sun protection.

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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2020, 05:44:46 AM »
You're right, I forgot that the Biore one is Japanese.

The thing is though, you asked about "Mustachian sunscreen", so you're not going to get a lot of answers here about high end, Asian sunscreens that feel elegant.

That's why I asked what you are looking for, because you have to specify that you're looking for affordable luxury, otherwise you're going to get answers that give you the most practical option. That's how this place works.

The more specific you are with your questions here, the better answers you will get.

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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2020, 06:02:03 AM »
Here's the thing, I'm pretty happy with my original, general, open-ended question: "What sunscreens do all you Mustachians use?" :)

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2020, 06:24:08 AM »
I use La Roche-Posay. It's not really cheap, but it feels good on my skin. I need to use high spf cause I've had skin cancer and I have sensitive skin and react to a lot of products so I like to stick to what works for me.

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2020, 07:04:35 AM »
I'm currently using that Biore Aqua Rich sunscreen, and it's much, much better than anything American I've used.

Earlier this year I tried Supergoop ($30), since there are so many online raves, but it was a sticky mess. And I got one of the tinted kinds, which just made my pores look weird. Also made a horrible sticky mess on my masks.

I also use a Neutrogena facial sunscreen, which is OK, but the Biore is far superior.

My friend got me a couple tubes of the Biore; she says she gets it at a local Japanese cosmetics store. So question is: where can I reliably source this sunscreen in the US?

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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2020, 07:13:16 AM »
Nivea Sun Protect Water Gel is what our house uses for daily wear. It doesn’t flake, appear shiny, or leave any residue on the beard. The pump bottle is just a bonus.

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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2020, 09:58:59 AM »
My friend got me a couple tubes of the Biore; she says she gets it at a local Japanese cosmetics store. So question is: where can I reliably source this sunscreen in the US?

Hmmm, never thought sourcing Bioré in the US would be a problem (not even Amazon?). It's everywhere where I live. All the major groceries, drugstores and online stores carry it, right beside Neutrogena, Nivea and Coppertone.

You're right, I forgot that the Biore one is Japanese.

The thing is though, you asked about "Mustachian sunscreen", so you're not going to get a lot of answers here about high end, Asian sunscreens that feel elegant.

That's why I asked what you are looking for, because you have to specify that you're looking for affordable luxury, otherwise you're going to get answers that give you the most practical option. That's how this place works.

The more specific you are with your questions here, the better answers you will get.

I think I better understand where you're coming from.

Do you consider Bioré to be high-end/luxury? Because I never have. It's a high-quality sunscreen, for sure, but not high end. Prices here are comparable to the other brands I mentioned above.

Also, I do know how this place works, having been a forum member since 2012 ;)

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2020, 10:08:28 AM »
Biore is available on Amazon, but I'm wary of counterfeits. Their Japanese sunscreen, as far as I know, isn't widely available in US stores. Other Biore products are.

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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2020, 10:12:48 AM »
Just ordered the Biore sunscreen on Amazon based on this thread. I really, really need a good, lightweight face sunscreen for everyday (I live in Honolulu). I had a basal cell carcinoma on my shoulder removed via Mohs surgery a couple of months ago and it was no joke. I'm pretty careful about the sun but the Neutrogena sunscreen/moisturizer seems like it isn't really the best bet for my face.

I'll tell you what, this whole mask thing has been awesome for me. Normalizing sun protection is a huge win. My face mask is the one thing I'll be sad to see go when the pandemic ends.

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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2020, 10:17:23 AM »
@englishteacheralex please do report back and tell us if it works for you!

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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2020, 10:32:11 AM »
The Biore sunscreen really is much better than all the American products I've tried. But it comes in kind of a small tube, so if you're using it for your face AND body, you'll be going through it quickly. Yes, please report back on the quality of the Amazon product, and how it works for you.

The mask tan lines on my face tell me I could probably be better about my sun protection ...

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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2020, 10:37:42 AM »
I don’t care all that much about the sunscreen I use.  I do use it almost daily now that outdoor exercise is my main way of getting out of the house.  I don’t use makeup or any other skincare products.

My favorite is probably the Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch SPF Sunscreen, though i haven’t tried a ton of different brands.  I used to get the Target brand version, but I haven’t seen it available for a year or so?

Otherwise, I just buy what’s on sale and over 50 SPF.

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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2020, 11:29:34 AM »
My friend got me a couple tubes of the Biore; she says she gets it at a local Japanese cosmetics store. So question is: where can I reliably source this sunscreen in the US?

Hmmm, never thought sourcing Bioré in the US would be a problem (not even Amazon?). It's everywhere where I live. All the major groceries, drugstores and online stores carry it, right beside Neutrogena, Nivea and Coppertone.

You're right, I forgot that the Biore one is Japanese.

The thing is though, you asked about "Mustachian sunscreen", so you're not going to get a lot of answers here about high end, Asian sunscreens that feel elegant.

That's why I asked what you are looking for, because you have to specify that you're looking for affordable luxury, otherwise you're going to get answers that give you the most practical option. That's how this place works.

The more specific you are with your questions here, the better answers you will get.

I think I better understand where you're coming from.

Do you consider Bioré to be high-end/luxury? Because I never have. It's a high-quality sunscreen, for sure, but not high end. Prices here are comparable to the other brands I mentioned above.

Also, I do know how this place works, having been a forum member since 2012 ;)

I think that it's much more luxury than $8, 300 ml bottles of drug store brand generic sunscreen.

Last I bought Biore type that you use, it was $17 for 50 ml.

Now, in the world of cosmetic sunscreens, yeah, that's pretty inexpensive compared to say, EltaMD at ~$40 for 48ml.

ETA: here's a list of K Beauty sunscreens you might be interested in, I've tried the A'PIEU, Earth's Recipes, and Belt Belt, but I usually come back to Biore because it's hard to get a lot of this in Canada. The Biore and COSRX aloe seem to be the easiest to find.
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2020, 12:00:26 PM »
I almost never wear sunscreen. I'm quite fair and burn easily, but I hate how sunscreen feels, and I have concerns about ingredients in sunscreen. I'm also allergic to zinc oxide, so that's out.

I typically wear a broad brimmed hat when outdoors. When the UV index is low enough I can go for a walk without worrying about sunscreen -- if I won't burn without it then I don't wear it. When the UV index is high, I stay out of the sun as much as possible, walking in the early morning or later in the evening. During the months the UV index is super high (11+ / extreme is common) it's also way too hot to walk around in head to toe UV rated clothing. So it's just a common sense thing -- wear a hat to shade my face, don't go out in the sun if I'll get burned.

At the beach, whether or not I wear sunscreen depends on what I'm planning to do. If I'll be under an umbrella or shade tent, I don't wear it. If I plan to walk around, I do. I also wear it hiking at elevation (otherwise my regular rules apply when hiking). I prefer some Neutrogena high SPF face sunscreen that's meant for faces and isn't oily. I don't know which one, as it changes from time to time. For awhile Target had a good knock off. I use it on my body and face.

I'm not concerned about aging and wrinkles. We all get them, and I refuse to buy into the sunscreen industry's push for wearing sunscreen daily. As for skin cancer, there's concern that modern sunscreens fool people into thinking they're safe in the sun, rather than trusting their bodies to tell them when to get out. There's also research suggesting lack of vitamin D causes more cancers (and more severe cancers) than the risk of most skin cancers from sun exposure. We were advised by our very mainstream doctor to get more sun exposure (when UVB is higher) and to take supplemental D due to vitamin D insufficiency and deficiency (some family members have insufficient numbers but not deficient numbers). She likes supplemental D to hedge bets, but think sun exposure is better (in moderation and with caution). With one kid, she flat out said he should not wear sunscreen because his numbers are deficient and for some reason supplementation only brings him up into the insufficient zone. He has a fair skin tone but unlike the rest of us he tans easily and rarely burns.

And this is probably controversial, but there is some thought out there that diet and lifestyle can provide some protection from sun exposure. In other words, healthy bodies have better defenses. We stay away from seed oils and choose a diet higher in omega 3 oils, eat colorful foods full of antioxidants, get plenty of sleep, and avoid stress. It can't be that humans all of a sudden can't tolerate the sun -- our behavior and diets have changed significantly in the past 150 - 200 years. (And no, I'm not saying everyone should follow a paleo diet, just that we need to look to food chemicals and processed foods.)

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Re: Mustachian Sunscreen
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2020, 12:12:15 PM »
My friend got me a couple tubes of the Biore; she says she gets it at a local Japanese cosmetics store. So question is: where can I reliably source this sunscreen in the US?

Hmmm, never thought sourcing Bioré in the US would be a problem (not even Amazon?). It's everywhere where I live. All the major groceries, drugstores and online stores carry it, right beside Neutrogena, Nivea and Coppertone.

You're right, I forgot that the Biore one is Japanese.

The thing is though, you asked about "Mustachian sunscreen", so you're not going to get a lot of answers here about high end, Asian sunscreens that feel elegant.

That's why I asked what you are looking for, because you have to specify that you're looking for affordable luxury, otherwise you're going to get answers that give you the most practical option. That's how this place works.

The more specific you are with your questions here, the better answers you will get.

I think I better understand where you're coming from.

Do you consider Bioré to be high-end/luxury? Because I never have. It's a high-quality sunscreen, for sure, but not high end. Prices here are comparable to the other brands I mentioned above.

Also, I do know how this place works, having been a forum member since 2012 ;)

I think that it's much more luxury than $8, 300 ml bottles of drug store brand generic sunscreen.

Last I bought Biore type that you use, it was $17 for 50 ml.

Now, in the world of cosmetic sunscreens, yeah, that's pretty inexpensive compared to say, EltaMD at ~$40 for 48ml.

ETA: here's a list of K Beauty sunscreens you might be interested in, I've tried the A'PIEU, Earth's Recipes, and Belt Belt, but I usually come back to Biore because it's hard to get a lot of this in Canada. The Biore and COSRX aloe seem to be the easiest to find.

It becomes even clearer - our different ways of thinking are informed by our consumer markets, where the options and pricing are wildly different.

I have never seen a 300ml bottle of sunscreen in person, ever. Therefore, I've never had that point of reference when choosing sunscreen for myself.

On the other hand, my usual Bioré costs USD 11 for a 90ml bottle. So I can get it much cheaper than a Canadian does, likely because of different taxes and other quirks of the international trade system.

Next time I'm in the US, maybe I'll try picking up one of those giant bottles. If nothing else, it'll be good for a laugh because it's so different!

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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2020, 12:43:06 PM »
We need more size.

https://www.amazon.com/SPF-Rx-Sunscreen-Protection-Fragrance/dp/B00D6TZM8M/

It's so fascinating... It looks like a bottle of bleach!

Forget kitschy keychains. This is what I'm bringing home from my next US vacation!

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2020, 08:32:00 PM »
I use the neutrogena sheer touch also.  If I want some tint, I’ll use neutrogena healthy skin enhanced.

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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2020, 08:46:57 PM »
Hat with a wide brim.

Long sleeve shirt.

Long sleeve pants.

Right there with you, although sometimes I'll substitute a baseball cap with one of those wrap around flaps for the broad brimmed hat (my favorite hat for field season is straw and I cannot just cram it into a backpack like I can a cap).

Took me an embarrassingly long number of summers to learn that with the right long sleeved shirt and hat I can often feel much cooler and more comfortable than with less clothes and more sunscreen. Though I wouldn't be at all opposed if the USA could get back in the game of approving new active ingredients for sunscreens, I'd still very much appreciate it.

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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2020, 10:52:34 PM »
Hong Kong resident here. Our climate is similar most of the year to Manila. For daily use, I buy expensive (US$15 for 58ml) BB cream for my face and use a pea-sized amount, then brush on SPF30 powder on top to keep shine down. One bottle and powder last 9-12 months. https://www.iherb.com/pr/Andalou-Naturals-BB-Vitamin-C-Beauty-Balm-Brightening-SPF-30-Sheer-Tint-2-fl-oz-58-ml/46937

Sunscreen when applied all over doesn't allow my skin to breathe so I only use it everywhere when out hiking. When going to work I tend to walk in the shade where possible, and use a UV umbrella if walking in direct sun for more than a minute or two. Due to social norms here I don't tend to expose a lot of skin, and wear comfortable clothing in natural fibres that works well in heat and air-con environments.

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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2020, 04:29:46 AM »
Here's the thing, I'm pretty happy with my original, general, open-ended question: "What sunscreens do all you Mustachians use?" :)
Is ANESSA Perfect UV Sunscreen Mild Milk A SPF50+ PA++++ available in Philippines?  It's also Japanese and so far this is the best sunscreen I've used, and I tried a lot of Korean and US brands and so far nothing comes close.  I would be curious how it compares to the Biore you're using.
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2020, 06:16:47 AM »
Here's the thing, I'm pretty happy with my original, general, open-ended question: "What sunscreens do all you Mustachians use?" :)
Is ANESSA Perfect UV Sunscreen Mild Milk A SPF50+ PA++++ available in Philippines?  It's also Japanese and so far this is the best sunscreen I've used, and I tried a lot of Korean and US brands and so far nothing comes close.  I would be curious how it compares to the Biore you're using.

I've never tried Anessa (way too expensive where I live), but I've heard good things about the brand. This one costs PHP 2,295 (~USD 48) for a 60 ml bottle. It's on my "I'll Try It When I Get Free Samples" list.

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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2020, 02:33:47 PM »
I've used Biore watery essence, ordered off Amazon and do really like it. I only use physical sunscreens on my face and prefer to either use La Roche Posay or MD solar sciences mineral creme. 

I do mostly wear long sleeves and a hat. I have very fair skin so I wear sunscreen 365 days/year.

For body, I like the supergoop oil sunscreen. I just can't bear to apply thick zinc based sunscreen to my arms and legs and really like the application. 

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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2020, 02:44:32 PM »
I use Olay SPF 15 every day on my face & neck. I live in CA & am very fair, have a family history of melanoma, have had several spots removed. I also wear a hat when I run, and it's working out that makes it difficult to keep a good sunblock on without sweating it off. I like Coola, & think their mineral sunscreen is fantastic. They are pricey, but that's what I typically wear when I'm going somewhere with lots of outdoor time (e.g. on vacation, etc). Otherwise, default to the Olay, as I prefer the way it blends in for every day wear.

If I'm really going to be out & it's very hot, I'll wear a Neutrogena face product that's a much higher SPFT (50, maybe)? It stings when it gets in your eyes, so is not my top choice, but I figure a little eye irritation is better than eventual cancer.
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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2020, 02:53:28 PM »
I had no idea so many people put sunscreen on every single day. Given the roots of this website, aren't you worried about the environmental impacts of washing that down the drain every day?

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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2020, 03:59:21 PM »
Skin cancer is a real risk. I’m also fair and also wear it everyday and also put it on my kids every day. My favorite is also Olay SPF 15, thé sensitive skin version.

Every person in my family older than me has had multiple instances of cancerous and pre-cancerous spots cut out/frozen off and most of them have gone through this topical chemotherapy-type cream regime to address sun damage. This risk is in my face and looms much larger for me than any downside risks of sunblock use.

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« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2020, 04:33:02 PM »
I had no idea so many people put sunscreen on every single day. Given the roots of this website, aren't you worried about the environmental impacts of washing that down the drain every day?

Sunscreen is apparently terrible for coral reefs as well. I've invested in long sleeve rash guards, a surfing hat that has a buckle underneath my chin, and board shorts so that the amount of skin I have to cover with sunscreen when I'm in the ocean being active is minimal.

But I have a three inch scar from the basal cell carcinoma on my shoulder (I had it removed twice--it came back after the first time) and the thought of having to go through that process with a bcc on my face isn't my favorite. I'd like to avoid it if possible. Daily face/neck sunscreen is something I'm looking into now. Sorry environment. I just don't want to get melanoma.

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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2020, 04:40:03 PM »
I don't understand. Why wear sunscreen if you're not outside?

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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2020, 04:44:41 PM »
Even walking around from the car to the office or driving a car risks sun exposure. My skin doc says I should be wearing it on any exposed skin absolutely all daylight hours.

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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2020, 05:10:00 PM »
I had no idea so many people put sunscreen on every single day. Given the roots of this website, aren't you worried about the environmental impacts of washing that down the drain every day?

Both DH and I have had skin cancer.
We prioritize covering with SPF clothing with long sleeves even in sweltering heat, but yes, we are diligent sunscreen wearers all year round on any exposed skin.

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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2020, 06:05:44 PM »
I live in a tropical country and also have a family history of cancer. So yes, I use sunscreen every day.

I balance it out with being environmentally conscious in other areas of my life (walking to work every day, not owning a car, not buying useless disposable junk, etc)


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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2020, 06:30:46 PM »
Nice to see it's reef-friendly. A good candidate for body sunscreen. I use expensive sunscreen specifically formulated for the face, then when spending significant time outdoors, a 'body' sunscreen that usually costs half or less.

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Re: Mustachian Sunscreen
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2020, 06:31:23 PM »
The world of fancy sunscreen is so crazy to me. We went on vacation to Spain and all the sunscreen bottles were tiny and like $50! Couldn’t find just a regular $5 bottle of spf 50. Made me want to start shipping cheap sunscreen over there, I would make a fortune!

The drug store down the street has about 30 different kinds and most are in fairly large bottles and under $10.

DW wears big hats, carries an umbrella, Doesn’t show a lot of skin, and uses sunscreen pretty religiously. She is Chinese so lighter skin = beauty to her. The idea of tanning like girls here do is crazy! Personally I don’t mind a bit of sun, but have started using sunscreen more since I am under her supervision most the time. Also bought a long sleeve UV shirt on amazon that is nice for days on the river or at the beach.

Maybe I will buy her a fancy sunscreen as a gift sometime. You have all inspired me!

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Re: Mustachian Sunscreen
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2020, 07:27:37 PM »
Nice to see it's reef-friendly. A good candidate for body sunscreen. I use expensive sunscreen specifically formulated for the face, then when spending significant time outdoors, a 'body' sunscreen that usually costs half or less.

I used to think the same thing. Then I went to the beach with some friends on a hot summer day...they bought the most expensive sunscreen available in the store. I used the Hawaiian Tropic 50 SPF. They all got sunburn and redness; my entire body and face were pristine. I spent a week in a country right near the equator in the summer season. Sun up to sun down 12 hours per day with not a single burn. The sunscreen smells good and feels great on your skin. I could talk about this product for ages.

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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2020, 09:35:25 PM »
Will look out for it! Scent for me is a big factor. I don't tend to get out much in the sun for long but on the occasions I do, it's good to have heavy duty protection.



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« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2020, 10:54:10 AM »
My sunscreen budget got slashed this year--mask and hat pretty much covers the face.  Years ago, I switched to long sleeves anytime there is sunlight.  I got sick of slathering on goopy sunblock on my arms for long bike rides.  I still expose my legs though and I can see the sun spots.

Can you wear lightweight linen long sleeve in the tropics? That's what I wear for summers and though far from the tropics, it does get hot and sticky here.

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Re: Mustachian Sunscreen
« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2020, 01:19:00 PM »
The world of fancy sunscreen is so crazy to me. We went on vacation to Spain and all the sunscreen bottles were tiny and like $50! Couldn’t find just a regular $5 bottle of spf 50. Made me want to start shipping cheap sunscreen over there, I would make a fortune!

The drug store down the street has about 30 different kinds and most are in fairly large bottles and under $10.

DW wears big hats, carries an umbrella, Doesn’t show a lot of skin, and uses sunscreen pretty religiously. She is Chinese so lighter skin = beauty to her. The idea of tanning like girls here do is crazy! Personally I don’t mind a bit of sun, but have started using sunscreen more since I am under her supervision most the time. Also bought a long sleeve UV shirt on amazon that is nice for days on the river or at the beach.

Maybe I will buy her a fancy sunscreen as a gift sometime. You have all inspired me!
Not to bust your dream there, but Europe has more stringent rules for makeup and similar products so many sunscreens in the US have ingredients that wouldn’t be allowed there.

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« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2020, 06:51:48 PM »
Can you wear lightweight linen long sleeve in the tropics? That's what I wear for summers and though far from the tropics, it does get hot and sticky here.

One could wear long sleeved linen in the tropics, but it doesn't solve the problem of protecting one's face and neck, and sunlight still penetrates the fabric.

Also, I've lived in the tropics all my life, but on some hot, humid days, I still wish I could go out without wearing anything at all :)

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« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2020, 07:03:31 PM »
I have several UPF fabric  long sleeve shirts! Hanes makes a great one.

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« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2020, 08:38:17 PM »
I use sunscreen everyday, and I'm always on the lookout for a cheap, high SPF and broad spectrum sunscreen.

My favorite in terms of affordability, non-stickiness and SPF/PA ratings: the Bioré Aqua Rich Watery Gel, SPF 50 / PA ++++. PHP 532 (~USD 11) for a bottle that lasts me about a week and a half. It's a Japanese sunscreen and is widely available locally. I don't think it's that popular in the US/Europe, though.

I'm curious, what sunscreens do all you Mustachians use?

That is the sunscreen I use every day, well, before this WFH started in March.  On hot days that I know I will be sweaty I use its non-water version.   They are great!  These sunscreens are very popular to Asian Skin Care followers.

These days I hardly go outside, and when I go outside I always wear my mask, so I don't use sunscreen that much.