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LibrarIan

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Mortgage Payment vs. Investing
« on: June 13, 2019, 11:59:56 AM »
My wife and I are likely about to buy a house. I say likely because she's become an all-star at backing out of home contracts - five so far - for silly reasons and I refuse to believe this is happening until the closing date now. Anyway, this one seems like the most realistic.

Here's our situation. We are under contract for a house with a purchase price of $239,900 in northern Kentucky and we plan to put 20% down (avoid PMI and all that). Hopefully about one yearish after we move in, we plan to welcome our first child. During this year, she and I will both be working full time with a combined annual income of $121,000 gross. When the baby comes, she plans to quit her job and become a full-time mother (maybe PT work at some point later, but at first it's a stay-at-home situation). Once this happens, our annual income will be $100,000. (Her $31,000 salary will go away, and mine will increase in July 2020 by $10,000. This is contractual and will happen.)

I read through MMM's old post related to this, but I wanted to get a bit more specific.

For a long-term plan, I intend to pay the minimum mortgage payment each month while dumping as much as possible into our VTSAX. Before we go any further, what is the general forum opinion on this approach?

For a short-term plan, I was wondering if it would be a good idea to use our dual income powers to pay as aggressively as possible toward the mortgage over the first year, then once she quits her job to flip strategies to paying min. mortgage and directing funds to the VTSAX. Thoughts?

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Re: Mortgage Payment vs. Investing
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2019, 12:42:43 PM »
Someone asks this question on the forum virtually every day. I recommend doing a search for this subject and you will find plenty of topics about it.

The general consensus is if you have a relatively low mortgage rate (and I don't know why you wouldn't with current rates), you should not pre-pay your mortgage but should invest.

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Re: Mortgage Payment vs. Investing
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2019, 01:49:23 PM »
Investment order
Mortgage-specific discussion

I believe making the minimum payments and investing the rest is the best course of action (assuming fixed-rate, long term, low interest mortgages). The forum certainly doesn't have a consensus on this point. There's a whole thread dedicated to people paying off their low-interest mortgages (where dissenting opinions are apparently banned).

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Re: Mortgage Payment vs. Investing
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2019, 02:39:22 PM »
I can't understand why one strategy would be good while both you are working, but that another strategy would be better when only one is. 
Anyway, I agree...follow the investment order

Investment order
Mortgage-specific discussion

I believe making the minimum payments and investing the rest is the best course of action (assuming fixed-rate, long term, low interest mortgages). The forum certainly doesn't have a consensus on this point.
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There's a whole thread dedicated to people paying off their low-interest mortgages (where dissenting opinions are apparently banned).
This is not true, and it's pretty obnoxious when people re-frame what actually happened to say that dissenting opinions were banned.  They were not.  What actually happened was that a small number of people repeatedly made the same point over and over again, droning on like broken records, even when their targets understood the consequences of their actions.  It was frustrating to hear one or two people repeatedly telling others that they were stupid or that they simply didn't understand math. 

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Re: Mortgage Payment vs. Investing
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2019, 07:57:46 PM »
I can't understand why one strategy would be good while both you are working, but that another strategy would be better when only one is. 
Anyway, I agree...follow the investment order

There's a whole thread dedicated to people paying off their low-interest mortgages (where dissenting opinions are apparently banned).
This is not true, and it's pretty obnoxious when people re-frame what actually happened to say that dissenting opinions were banned.  They were not.  What actually happened was that a small number of people repeatedly made the same point over and over again, droning on like broken records, even when their targets understood the consequences of their actions.  It was frustrating to hear one or two people repeatedly telling others that they were stupid or that they simply didn't understand math.
I've never posted in said thread so I admittedly only heard about it second hand.

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Re: Mortgage Payment vs. Investing
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2019, 01:58:16 PM »

I've never posted in said thread so I admittedly only heard about it second hand.

I appreciate that you've made this distinction.  One of the people who was asked to refrain from repeating the advice does continue to misrepresent the facts and continues to tell people that others don't understand what they're doing.  It used to bother me, but now I just try to ignore her.    Everyone has different priorities, and my perspective is that when someone celebrates a massive achievement, you congratulate them, you don't tell them how they could have done better if only they had understood.

 

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