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Model Year vs Mileage
« on: July 11, 2014, 08:40:42 AM »
What do you find more value in when shopping for new wheels; newer model year with higher mileage or older model year with lower mileage?

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2014, 08:43:17 AM »
I've been told by mechanics that the age of the car is far more relevant than the number of miles, FWIW.  e.g., better to go with a 2009 with 130,000 on it than with a 2002 with only 60,000.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2014, 08:50:37 AM »
depends on what the taxes are too... my state charges taxes based on car year not based on car mileage.  so a 2008 with 200k miles would cost you more in Personal property tax than a 2002 with 10 miles.  ~4 times more

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2014, 08:53:19 AM »
If it's an 2006 w/ 60K vs. 2008 w/ 120k for the same price, I'd go '06. If it's an 1994 w/ 40K vs. a 2004 w/ 80K, I'd go with the 2004. I think how much you're paying also needs to be looked at in this equation.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2014, 08:58:04 AM »
Yeah it is not as simple as that. Newer cars tend to be more reliable and longer lasting so you also get more miles out of them. But because cost is so much associated with perceptions, you will likely pay more of a premium for newer cars. (You'll also pay more for insurance.) So assuming it's a car that you believe to be relatively reliable even though it's older, an older one with low miles would probably turn out to be a better buy. (Just be sure that it wasn't abused or neglected or rusted sufficiently in the meantime to cancel out your savings.)

Of course, if you're handy with the mechanical bits, then you can really take advantage of an older (simpler) car with lower miles.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2014, 10:05:55 AM »
Highway miles put way less strain on the engine than street miles....I have heard up to x10 less strain. I dont know if there is any great research out there but I would look for a high mile younger car.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2014, 10:10:00 AM »
Depends on where you live.  Anything post 2000 is going to be reliable if in good condition, so I don't think age for that reason matters.  But when I was in Ohio (rust belt), I was leery of buying an older low mileage car.  Now on the west coast that's exactly what I would be going for.

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2014, 10:15:16 AM »
What matters more than either is how well the car was taken care of.  My current car is a 1999 with 154,000 miles on it at the moment, and runs like a top, but a friend of mine had essentially the same car but a 1995 with 114,000 and it was a scrapheap.  Had nothing to do with the fact that it was older; it was just neglected and abused.  Of course, at less than say 80,000 the consequences of neglect and abuse are not yet generally apparent, so you have to be even more careful.

Also, the type of miles does matter.  60,000 pizza delivery miles put a lot more wear on a car than 100,000 highway miles with the cruise control set at 60.

It also depends on the car.  Some cars have model years that are known for being more or less reliable or long-lasting.  If you're looking to get a Car X, but 2004-2005 models of Car X are flawed in some significant way, then a 2003 or 2006 is far more desirable.

Rust can be a function of age depending on where you live.  Some cars are more susceptible to it than others, some years of certain models are more or less susceptible, but as a general rule of thumb, the older the rustier.  However, a low-miles older car might not have seen much winter driving, so it could be far less rusty.  You have to research and know what to check.

Also, people think of 90s cars as old, so a 1999 model tends to be cheaper than it should be by comparison to an essentially identical 2000 model.

Just another reason to do all your homework when it comes to buying a car.  Do extra work upfront, and it minimizes the work after the fact.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 10:25:32 AM »
I've been told by mechanics that the age of the car is far more relevant than the number of miles, FWIW.  e.g., better to go with a 2009 with 130,000 on it than with a 2002 with only 60,000.

This makes no sense to me. Rubber and plastic can degrade, but those are pretty easy to replace. But the big expensive parts' lifetime should have more to do with actual use than time.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2014, 11:01:46 AM »
I've been told by mechanics that the age of the car is far more relevant than the number of miles, FWIW.  e.g., better to go with a 2009 with 130,000 on it than with a 2002 with only 60,000.

This makes no sense to me. Rubber and plastic can degrade, but those are pretty easy to replace. But the big expensive parts' lifetime should have more to do with actual use than time.

Actually, if a car is only used 2-3 times per month and miles used approaches 0, internal parts sit longer. Rust can begin to form internally, fluids and contaminants can begin to adhere to lines and components. In extremely cold climates, lubricants can even thicken to the point of ruining those expensive parts. That's one of the reasons why fluid changes are suggested every x,000 miles OR y months, whichever comes first.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 11:27:00 AM »
Personally if the cars are around the same age I would take the older car with the lower miles because I drive alot like
20k miles a year.



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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2014, 03:27:57 PM »
What do you find more value in when shopping for new wheels; newer model year with higher mileage or older model year with lower mileage?

Neither.  I look for a car with appropriate mileage for the year, and then a good price.  15,000 miles or so a year is the thing to look for.  Examples of cars NOT to buy:  Ran across a '91 with 40,000 miles on it recently.  No way I'm touching that thing, that's a disaster waiting to happen.  Not enough miles on it, all kinds of things are going to break.  2012 with 100,000 miles on it, no way either.  Odds are it was used quite heavily.

While highway miles are good, real high mileage means it could have been involved in some heavy commercial use, which is very bad.  Low mileage you'd think would mean that parts aren't worn out, BUT many parts go bad from disuse...  There's a certain range of usage cars are meant to live in.  Get outside that range and you're likely to have issues.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2014, 03:34:14 PM »
What do you find more value in when shopping for new wheels; newer model year with higher mileage or older model year with lower mileage?

Neither. As a car guy, I get nervous when something is out of the ordinary.
A newer car with excessive mileage may not be valued appropriately and there may be unexpected issues due to the collective having less experience with the vehicle.
Someone who drives excessive miles may also not properly maintain it. (40,000 miles per year = oil change monthly!!!!)
I knew a guy who bought a brand new Acura, and 40,000 miles in 18 months, did not change the oil. Not once.

An older car with low miles may be better, but much of the same applies. Age takes its toll and a car that sits for weeks then gets driven will see a lot of wear in a short amount of mileage.

I look for overall condition. Interior clean or sloppy? Was it garaged or no? What kind of owner is it? Did he maintain it himself, or take it to jiffy lube?
Are things original? Body panels, seats, seat rails, carpet, glass should all be factory.


edit: Whoa, that was some deja - vu when I read the above post after I posted.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2014, 07:42:00 AM »
Whoa, that was some deja - vu when I read the above post after I posted.

Ha I was thinking that.

So I just bought a 6 year old car with 56,600 on it. Or ~9600/year. Not bad and seems like it would be a real cream puff, but after having it a week, it kind of feels like it was driven hard. I should have been hesitant to buy a car with W-rated (168mpg) Ultra High Performance summer tires on it...

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2014, 07:08:45 AM »
Where do you live? You will need snow tires unless you change them over to all seasons.  When I buy a new car, I find OE wheels on craigslist and then purchase winter tires when the time comes. 
It really costs little because you summer tires last longer. The real cost savings is in not crashing in the wintertime.


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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2014, 11:24:12 AM »
What do you find more value in when shopping for new wheels; newer model year with higher mileage or older model year with lower mileage?

Mileage/year/price should be appropriate for one another.

The best win is a low mileage newer car. The best is right around the 2-3yr mark as a lot of people turn in their leases around that time, which have maintenance requirements and are generally in good mechanical condition. That is how I bought my first car 5 years ago and I'm very happy with it.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2014, 08:14:20 AM »
Plastic and rubber pieces will be more likely to wear based on age. These are cheap to fix if you can do it yourself.

When buying a car I think it's also important to have an exit strategy. Are you going to sell it in 5 years or drive it until the wheels come off? I would feel comfortable buying a car with 200,000 miles if the mechanic gives it a thumbs up. However, I would basically have to drive this car until the wheels fall off because it's going to be difficult to sell a car with 250,000 miles.

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Re: Model Year vs Mileage
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2014, 12:50:21 PM »
I drive a 1995 Toyota Tacoma that has 225,000 miles on it, and it's still a champ.  Well cared-for, naturally.

When it dies, I have dreams of turning it into a planter box.  I love that damned truck.

And then the best possible replacement would be another older Tacoma, with lower mileage, and well cared-for if I can find it, because they just last forever.  I don't know any newer-model cars that hold up as well, and if anyone knows of any, I'd love to hear about it (shhh, don't tell my truck I'm already shopping for her replacement)


 

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