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jsb321

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Mistake to Not Contribute to Roth IRA?
« on: January 23, 2021, 06:07:42 AM »
My wife and I are roughly 30 years old and recently got on the same page with pursuing FIRE.  Although I already maxed out my Roth IRA for 2020, we are not sure if we should do the same for hers.  I have had mine for several years, but we opened up one for her recently.  I have a company 401k while she is working into an education pension.  We do not have a brokerage account.

Our Situation (roughly):
  • We are hoping to purchase a place to live relatively soon, and have a modest down payment saved.
  • We have a car loan of approximately $8,000.
  • We have approximately $12,000 left of fed student loans that currently are interest free.

We are concerned that we would be making a mistake to pass up on contributing to her 2020 Roth, since that opportunity will be gone forever once we reach April.  However, we're starting to think that Roth contributions may not be what we want for pursuing FIRE, and we are really hoping to purchase a place to live relatively soon. 

I guess the question is, would we be mistaken for passing up on a year of Roth contributions in order to pay down the car or further save for a down payment?  Should we even be prioritizing Roth contributions when we are hoping to achieve FIRE within the next 10 or so years?  Thanks in advance.  I tried my best to provide detail but be brief.
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Re: Mistake to Not Contribute to Roth IRA?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2021, 06:35:49 AM »
https://www.madfientist.com/traditional-ira-vs-roth-ira/

It depends on your income and the interest rate on the car loan. See the investment order sticky thread as well.

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Re: Mistake to Not Contribute to Roth IRA?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2021, 07:47:15 AM »
What's your income?

Personally I like to maximize retirement savings and think of remaining income as "discretionary" for things like cars/downpayments.

But I have no idea what your income is.

Roth IRAs are nice for FIRE because since you can withdraw contributions at any point.

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Re: Mistake to Not Contribute to Roth IRA?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2021, 08:34:41 AM »
Agree, you need to determine the investment order especially considering what you are currently making, what you will be making in retirement, and also take into account what Pension DW will have, as I know that varies state by state.  I think generally if you are not making a lot of money Roth is a good idea, if you are highly compensated then 401k is better.  I wish Roth 401k was around when I started my career, as I would have loved to put more money in when I was young, however did fully fund a Roth IRA all those years as well as max my 401k/TSP.  A few years ago when tax rated dropped, and I projected future 401k worth, I realized that we may run into the situation where our retirement income would be > than our current income, so we could be at a higher tax bracket if we kept on the same path.  So I moved my money from regular TSP into Roth TSP since tax brackets are low, then that way I can have multiple buckets to take money from at retirement.  At retirement, if we have only my limited pension, I can take money from TSP at a very low rate, then as RMD's and Social Security kick in, hopefully TSP will be lower and Roth will be much higher.  It all depends on what your current incomes are and what you project your future incomes to be.  For a Roth IRA, you can withdrawal contributions for a house I believe, but if you are saving for a house then shouldn't you have a separate bucket for that?  I've always tried to stay away from taking anything out of designated retirement accounts, so when I was saving for a house in the < 3 years, I just put money in a high interest savings account.  So it really depends on current incomes, when you want to FIRE and future incomes for where you want to be saving money.

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Re: Mistake to Not Contribute to Roth IRA?
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2021, 09:12:38 AM »
The investment order and How to withdraw funds from your IRA and 401k without penalty stickies at the top of the Investor Alley part of the forum should give you the information you need to make the decision. I'd probably contribute, but it depends on that interest rates on those loans. Personally, I'd probably pay off the car loan and maybe the student loan with the down payment money before buying a house.

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Re: Mistake to Not Contribute to Roth IRA?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2021, 09:46:49 AM »
Thanks for the replies thus far.  My income is $55,000 and my wife's is $32,000.  We appreciate the direct links to investment order as we've been looking into that for a little while.  I'm starting to think that getting the money into the Roth IRA while we still can may be the way to go, since we could always take it back out for a larger down payment? 

Our car loan is at 3.5% interest.  The student loans currently are at 0% with the current relief plans so we're really using it as an opportunity to pay off the car faster.

Thanks in advance for any other thoughts to our questions!

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Re: Mistake to Not Contribute to Roth IRA?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2021, 10:29:07 AM »