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Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« on: April 05, 2021, 12:45:03 PM »
Hi there,

I was wondering if you guys could help me. I'm an INFJ late graduate who never really discovered what to do. I feel like I have a lot of various skills but have had trouble finding a clear direction.

A brief background: I studied Psych at uni for 2 years, I was good at it but found it too clinical and depressing so dropped out, went back to do an English Lit degree which I really enjoyed, graduated with top marks but didn't find any relevant jobs, the pandemic started when I was unemployed so I picked up digital art, became super good at it and gained a big following, opened up a small shop/business, but later felt unfulfilled and limited so dropped that too. In between all that I also did some digital marketing jobs (which I was good at but hated to my core.)

So as I said above, I am an INFJ. I'm very creative but also an analyst and someone who needs that 'higher meaning' in what I do. The reason I've struggled to find a suitable job or avenue is because it either is serious and meaningful but doesn't really allow me to be creative or at least have some agency in how I do it. Or it's a position where I get to be creative, but lack the higher purpose where I feel like I'm making a social or cultural impact.

I really felt like I cracked the code when I started art last year - the whole 'self employed business' was super appealing to my creative side. But I realised that I still crave structure, deadlines, being challenged, being intellectually stimulated, being forced to think about things outside the box, making a difference through engaging with long term projects etc. The reason I really thrived at uni, especially with English lit, was because I really enjoyed that research aspect and grinding towards a long-term goal. I enjoyed the slow pace, the depth. I prefer working deeply on one project, than having several superficial tasks, which I feel like a lot of jobs usually are. But I don't want to work alone or freelance, I still want to be in an environment where I can be challenged by others.

I'm skilled at writing, drawing, editing. But my favourite skill to use is thinking. I feel like no matter how creative I am, I have to feel like the role I'm doing involves me thinking and putting ideas together, researching and evaluating and presenting new ideas (for something meaningful). If that makes any sense? I understand that I have some creative skill, but I want to use these as tools rather than as end results.

What has made my job search a little more difficult is that I hate working with the public. This means that even jobs like teaching or lecturing are not roles I'd consider or feel like I can do. While I have great interpersonal skills, this works better with colleagues rather than public or students. I am very shy and an introvert and simply feel I'd thrive best in the 'background', in research, or through my work, rather than one-to-one with people. I'm drawn towards thinking about sociology, culture, etc, rather than medical health or services.

So... does this bring any job ideas to mind for anyone? I realise I probably didn't articulate everything very well! I'm just super confused and feel like I'm struggling to find something that brings both my creativity and analytical skills together. I feel I have to care about the job I'm doing or really resonate with the 'impact' it's creating.

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2021, 12:56:47 PM »
Maybe software development? Or web design?

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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2021, 01:05:02 PM »
I suggest you take a look at usability/user experience/web design. I am not one, but I work directly with some in my role. In my industry (front-end software engineering) we have teams of engineers + product owners + user experience designers, and the UXers spend most of their time investigating usability problems, brainstorming, doing competitive research, pulling web designs together that solve those problems, testing their solutions with real users, and working directly with the engineers to build their ideas. (this kind of interaction is heavily dependent on the culture of the employer, there are quite a few places where UX is forced to be siloed and "throw the designs over the wall" to engineering and you don't really have that tight feedback loop in the design phase. But if you can find an employer who truly values UX and engineering working together its much more rewarding, imo)
Your background in psych, art, writing, and editing would be assets in that kind of role, then you would just need to brush up on UX specific skills.
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 02:07:51 PM »
I think you should reconsider teaching, but at a charter school a private school where you have more control over the curriculum. I used to be worried about teaching as an introvert but you mostly talk at kids then go home. You can collaborate with them if you want but I find there to be less pressure to "perform" with kids because they just accept you however you are.

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 03:58:42 PM »
I'm an INTJ medical/veterinary writer. It works for me because it feels like I'm constantly in school, learning and doing "homework." I also like the fact that I'm a role that's education-related, without having to actually stand up and talk in front of people all day.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2021, 05:30:21 PM »
Are you looking for a unicorn? Because it sounds like you are looking for a unicorn.

No idea on your age, but most jobs you start suck. They especially suck when you are young/new to the industry. They give you crap work, its lots of hard core learning and absorbing before you can do a whole lot of work creating (I call it adding value which managers like to hear more) which it sounds like you are into.

What I always say to people in this situation is start in a decent sized company, any job will do. Then simply work towards the role you want, as long as you make your boss look good while doing it you can pretty much pick up any extra work you want. If an accountant is putting out good graphic design work I don't think anyone is going to be angry about it you know?

Sounds like you don't have much of an idea what you want to do, and odds are no one else here does either. Get a job, make friends in different departments, ask a bunch of questions and find out what suits you.

Good luck out there.






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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2021, 06:05:33 PM »
OP, you are a recent grad who has no idea what they want to do in their life, got training that's great for generic stuff but not so great for anything with a clear, defined career path. There's probably thousands of people out there like you, if not hundreds of thousands. And I'm sure it doesn't feel good to know that, but no. You're not going to find a job that pays well AND is interesting AND creative AND higher purpose AND blah blah blah.

Here's the piece that you're missing: Life and Work are two seperate things. You work to live. You don't live to work. You're trying to combine them. Stop. It's ok for your purpose in life to happen outside work. In fact, in a lot of cases, they have to be seperate. Unless you think the garbage pickup people love garbage?

Also, just because you're INFJ doesn't mean you're limited to that. There are successful actors that started life with a stammer. Think about it. Why in the world would someone with a stammer want to be an actor? INFJ is a beginning. Not an ending. Insight. Not a straightjacket.

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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2021, 07:00:04 PM »
Thanks for your replies so far guys!

I just want to clarify that I'm not looking for anything that pays well. I was just hoping to get some suggestions that combines creativity with some technical/analytical skills. I believe there are jobs that exist that marry these two and which do provide some 'meaning', just like some people have suggested UX which can be used for creating/designing things that add meaning or impact to people's lives. It absolutely doesn't have to be something I get at 'entry level' - I am looking for an answer for long term, I am not expecting it now or at my level.

I appreciate those of you who bump up teacher roles, I will actually consider and look into it more. It's true my shyness doesn't have to be such a barrier if it turns out to be suitable.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to subscribe to ideas of 'you just have to find a company, kiss up to the boss, and then progress in your role'. I understand some of you want to give me that 'reality check', believe me you're not the first ;) many people like to give the same things so it's not 'unheard of' just because I'm a 'graduate' who 'doesn't know what I want out of life/work'. It's been told time and again :) So that message is loud and clear, and doesn't need to be given any further.

If there are people who know of more creative/niche/or even obvious job suggestions that haven't been mentioned, please feel free to say! It obviously doesn't have to be perfectly on the money but it's nice to hear some different ideas :) I'm obviously flexible and looking for any ideas even if it seems contradictory! :)
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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2021, 08:27:12 PM »
Tech writing? If you’re in a location with software jobs. I don’t know too much about it, have a friend who does it, so I don’t know what experience you need to have to be hired into a position. Also, grant writing at a university? These jobs allow for thinking and writing, but both require a little creativity and some research, and some non-public collaboration.

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2021, 05:47:06 AM »
INFJ here. Totally understand wanting a job that connects internal motivations with higher purpose and creativity/scheduling freedom plus not being around people. These jobs do exist :)

Do you know what your "Signature Strengths" are? This was part of a class I took at Yale, and found it helpful for brainstorming ideas (you have to provide your email to take the free survey, which is annoying but the survey is legit).

Anecdotally, INFJ's can thrive in caring and creative roles (whether people, animals, environment, design, etc) as long as you learn to effectively manage boundaries to not burn out. My niche role is environmental design related, but obviously you'd want to leverage your existing degrees and interests in finding an appropriate role.

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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2021, 08:23:57 AM »
As a fellow INFJ, teaching is actually a very good option for you -- though it can be draining. The problem, though, is that having been a teacher myself, I would never counsel anyone to go into it at this point because of all the other crap that comes with being a teacher.

INFJ is often nicknamed "the counselor." I'd urge you to look into jobs that fall into that realm. But again, keep your eyes open for the difficult/undesirable parts of those jobs, because in many cases, those are significant.

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2021, 11:06:56 AM »

I'm sorry but I'm not going to subscribe to ideas of 'you just have to find a company, kiss up to the boss, and then progress in your role'. I understand some of you want to give me that 'reality check', believe me you're not the first ;) many people like to give the same things so it's not 'unheard of' just because I'm a 'graduate' who 'doesn't know what I want out of life/work'. It's been told time and again :) So that message is loud and clear, and doesn't need to be given any further.


No one said suck up, or be a yes man or anything. You do have to be able to "play well with others." If not then you will be labeled not a team player and things will get really unpleasant for you.

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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2021, 11:45:30 AM »
I recommend the book "Designing your Life," or at the very least, go to their website and complete the exercises. My key takeaways from this book were 1) tracking how I spent my time and how I felt while doing various activities to help find a path that would better fit my preferences, and 2) trying to find ways to prototype or test the waters before diving into a big change/ commitment.

I'm an INFP, so a good bit of overlap personality wise.

That said, I had a completely different strategy before I discovered the book I mentioned above and that may also be helpful to you. I found that it helped somewhat to get through the always-present negative parts of my previous career when I felt like my job was something that made the world a better place (all about finding that higher purpose). Are there any causes you are super passionate about? Any core beliefs that you have about the world? If so, maybe you could look for jobs that would advance those causes or beliefs, or at least be tangentially related?

Granted, I still really disliked my job but I was able to grit my teeth until I FIRED because I felt like I was making a positive difference. Now, after reading "Designing Your Life" I quit my career and went to school for completely different path that involves working with my hands (the activity that gave me the most satisfaction when I was tracking my time).


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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2021, 12:15:51 PM »

I'm sorry but I'm not going to subscribe to ideas of 'you just have to find a company, kiss up to the boss, and then progress in your role'. I understand some of you want to give me that 'reality check', believe me you're not the first ;) many people like to give the same things so it's not 'unheard of' just because I'm a 'graduate' who 'doesn't know what I want out of life/work'. It's been told time and again :) So that message is loud and clear, and doesn't need to be given any further.


No one said suck up, or be a yes man or anything. You do have to be able to "play well with others." If not then you will be labeled not a team player and things will get really unpleasant for you.
Yep. I agree with your original comment, and I don't think @creativeanalyst was really fair to it.

I was hired to do data management, which is (IMO) extremely dull. But I built a reputation as a smart, competent, helpful employee, and as a result (and because I have a supportive boss), I was asked to participate in lots of other teams and projects. Just through saying yes to the opportunities I was interested in, I was able to shift my role to where I do much more interesting work and have only very minor data management responsibilities.

Is my experience applicable everywhere? No, but I don't think it's rare either.

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2021, 01:34:53 PM »

I'm sorry but I'm not going to subscribe to ideas of 'you just have to find a company, kiss up to the boss, and then progress in your role'. I understand some of you want to give me that 'reality check', believe me you're not the first ;) many people like to give the same things so it's not 'unheard of' just because I'm a 'graduate' who 'doesn't know what I want out of life/work'. It's been told time and again :) So that message is loud and clear, and doesn't need to be given any further.


No one said suck up, or be a yes man or anything. You do have to be able to "play well with others." If not then you will be labeled not a team player and things will get really unpleasant for you.
Yep. I agree with your original comment, and I don't think @creativeanalyst was really fair to it.

I was hired to do data management, which is (IMO) extremely dull. But I built a reputation as a smart, competent, helpful employee, and as a result (and because I have a supportive boss), I was asked to participate in lots of other teams and projects. Just through saying yes to the opportunities I was interested in, I was able to shift my role to where I do much more interesting work and have only very minor data management responsibilities.

Is my experience applicable everywhere? No, but I don't think it's rare either.

I understand what you and Jon are saying, I appreciate the clarity from both also. I get that even in ‘regular jobs’ there is a culture and a community where you can feel valuable and make a difference in, which still requires hard work. I am not afraid of hard work and I understand that anywhere I want to go will require some grinding. I was perhaps responding to the delivery of ‘all jobs suck.’ And the implication of ‘What you want doesn’t exist.’ Etc etc. These can come across a little invalidating and I think they aren’t always necessary to get the message across of being more flexible in my approach.

I’m happy to hear about experiences such as yours obviously. My partner has a similar job and is perfectly satisfied with it, so I do have a positive view of that. Acknowledging that, however, I’m still curious to see if other people had some knowledge or experiences that I didn’t, which might suit my character with a little more intention. As the saying goes, if you don’t ask you don’t get. :)

Still keeping an open mind though, so thank you for sharing your experiences.

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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2021, 01:41:14 PM »
INFJ here. Totally understand wanting a job that connects internal motivations with higher purpose and creativity/scheduling freedom plus not being around people. These jobs do exist :)

Do you know what your "Signature Strengths" are? This was part of a class I took at Yale, and found it helpful for brainstorming ideas (you have to provide your email to take the free survey, which is annoying but the survey is legit).

Anecdotally, INFJ's can thrive in caring and creative roles (whether people, animals, environment, design, etc) as long as you learn to effectively manage boundaries to not burn out. My niche role is environmental design related, but obviously you'd want to leverage your existing degrees and interests in finding an appropriate role.

Thanks for this :) it’s super encouraging to hear that from a fellow INFJ.

I see what you mean. It’s a matter of tying in my experience and what I care about together to figure out some suitable paths. Environmental design sounds awesome, you must enjoy that!

I took that test and I’m not totally sure how to use the results because I felt like it told me things I already had a feeling about, but it’s was still interesting to see them as the ‘top 5’. I suppose it can provide some focus for what strengths I should prioritise when job searching :)

(how does one use honesty in a job search? Haha I’ll add it as an attachment in case anyone gets any ideas)

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2021, 01:47:11 PM »
I recommend the book "Designing your Life," or at the very least, go to their website and complete the exercises. My key takeaways from this book were 1) tracking how I spent my time and how I felt while doing various activities to help find a path that would better fit my preferences, and 2) trying to find ways to prototype or test the waters before diving into a big change/ commitment.

I'm an INFP, so a good bit of overlap personality wise.

That said, I had a completely different strategy before I discovered the book I mentioned above and that may also be helpful to you. I found that it helped somewhat to get through the always-present negative parts of my previous career when I felt like my job was something that made the world a better place (all about finding that higher purpose). Are there any causes you are super passionate about? Any core beliefs that you have about the world? If so, maybe you could look for jobs that would advance those causes or beliefs, or at least be tangentially related?

Granted, I still really disliked my job but I was able to grit my teeth until I FIRED because I felt like I was making a positive difference. Now, after reading "Designing Your Life" I quit my career and went to school for completely different path that involves working with my hands (the activity that gave me the most satisfaction when I was tracking my time).

This is amazing thanks so much for this!

It’s interesting because I used to be INFP when I was younger, but it changed when I got older. So I definitely think there’s some overlap there.

I think you’re totally onto something there about tracking what activities made me happy. I actually used that to discover my love for art. Doing art and creating a small business around it did take me pretty far to what I really wanted, I’d say it took me about 80-90%. It’s more the intellectual and meaningful aspect that was missing. So that’s really helpful! It makes me realise I shouldn’t totally discount what was enjoyable and should keep it in mind for future opportunities.

I’ll definitely reflect on what things I care about. I think I was getting caught up on job description but thinking about the beliefs aspect could help a lot in terms of pointing me in the right direction. Thanks!

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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2021, 06:24:53 AM »
(how does one use honesty in a job search? Haha I’ll add it as an attachment in case anyone gets any ideas)

Ha! Yes, ideally you find something that engages your top strengths. There's a corresponding paper with ideas for using your strengths (ctrl + f to easily find): https://www.actionforhappiness.org/media/52486/340_ways_to_use_character_strengths.pdf

Honesty ("authentic wholeness") is an interesting one, a few of the suggestions might be relevant:

- Write on issues about which you feel moral obligation. It helps to crystallize and integrate thinking.
- Identify your area of strongest moral convictions. Set your priorities according to your convictions.
- Seek roles with clear structure that allow you to be authentic and honest.
- Learn and practice the ethical standards of your profession.

I think your plan to reflect on the things you care about and engage your core strengths is a good one. Sure, you can optimize and bring a higher meaning to pretty much any job but there's research that people are happiest when they do things that engage at least 4 of your 7 top strengths.

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2021, 01:47:32 PM »

Ha! Yes, ideally you find something that engages your top strengths. There's a corresponding paper with ideas for using your strengths (ctrl + f to easily find): https://www.actionforhappiness.org/media/52486/340_ways_to_use_character_strengths.pdf

Honesty ("authentic wholeness") is an interesting one, a few of the suggestions might be relevant:

- Write on issues about which you feel moral obligation. It helps to crystallize and integrate thinking.
- Identify your area of strongest moral convictions. Set your priorities according to your convictions.
- Seek roles with clear structure that allow you to be authentic and honest.
- Learn and practice the ethical standards of your profession.

I think your plan to reflect on the things you care about and engage your core strengths is a good one. Sure, you can optimize and bring a higher meaning to pretty much any job but there's research that people are happiest when they do things that engage at least 4 of your 7 top strengths.

This is amazing, thank you so much!

These responses to my post have been quite eye opening. One of the biggest things I’m taking away from it is that there’s no magic answer, and instead of just getting some job titles I’ve been guided to ask more questions about myself. I really appreciate that!

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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2021, 05:38:49 AM »
Seek and you shall find as the saying goes :)

Requested the "Designing Your Life" book at the library, excited to check that out. When I retire, I'd love to do something involving animals/human health/personalized medicine, like Medical Detection Dogs or HeroRats. But for now, I'm happy with the environmental design work, which could lead any number of different directions too. Good luck with your search!

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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2021, 10:18:41 PM »
Wth is INFJ?

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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2021, 06:02:44 AM »
Wth is INFJ?

You can Google it.

It’s a Myers-Briggs personality type.

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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2021, 10:46:30 PM »
if i were you i would do the art stuff at least to make some money till you figure what you really want to do or fine a side project to fulfill all your needs. However i suspect that you will do what ever you decide the Unicorn job is for a few years (or less) and quit to do something else that more fits your ideals in that moment. Hopefully that doesnt sound to much like a jerk, but ask yourself if you will ever be satisfied in any career? most jobs are not all rainbows and sunshine and if they are at some point you may want some cloudy days.

i would say environmental engineering with a tilt towards remediation or climate focused geo-engineering if you want more school, lots of higher meaning and opportunities to keep learning

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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2021, 01:22:31 PM »
There are many STEM fields that need a person like you.

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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2021, 02:15:03 PM »
I think you're perfectly positioned (both with skills and with timing) to start a business helping creatives make NFTs.  I'd probably go on one of those websites where digital artists are paired with musicians/bands and create an NFT for one of your original art pieces, then offer to create the tokens for others who want a way to protect their digital creations.  It seems to me that this is going to be a way for individuals to finally be able to protect their own unique art.  If someone with a tech bent can help the creatives navigate the tech part, there might be a niche for you there.  At the very least, do it once for yourself to understand it fully, and see if it's a viable path. 

about halfway down this page is a link to The Daily Podcast about a NYT writer who created an NFT as "research" or as a lark and ended up making over $500M. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/arts/design/what-is-an-nft.html

Edit:  not $500M.  $0.5M Oops! 
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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2021, 02:31:11 PM »
Biased software developer here. You might enjoy using technology to express your creative side, while using your "advocate" desires to work for an organization or non-profit. I've had friends who both wrote articles for these organizations as well as did some basic webdesign for them. You'd be surprised how critical good website design is for these organizations to get their messages across, and your psychology experience may even be helpful there. If you focus on UI/UX and web design, you can learn clear, disciplined skills that have direct results, but you can apply this to the greater framework of a company that is trying to accomplish something good in the world. Many people in these sort of front-end roles don't necessarily learn programming, though there is space for that if you are interested. Ever played with wordpress themes?

Developers like me, well, we sometimes get the creativity, but we rarely ever get the purpose. A disturbingly large number of us are ISTJs and INTJs, though. I'm a little jealous of people who do more front-end design, but it does come with somewhat lower pay.

FWIW

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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2021, 10:46:41 AM »
I think you're perfectly positioned (both with skills and with timing) to start a business helping creatives make NFTs.  I'd probably go on one of those websites where digital artists are paired with musicians/bands and create an NFT for one of your original art pieces, then offer to create the tokens for others who want a way to protect their digital creations.  It seems to me that this is going to be a way for individuals to finally be able to protect their own unique art.  If someone with a tech bent can help the creatives navigate the tech part, there might be a niche for you there.  At the very least, do it once for yourself to understand it fully, and see if it's a viable path. 

about halfway down this page is a link to The Daily Podcast about a NYT writer who created an NFT as "research" or as a lark and ended up making over $500M. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/arts/design/what-is-an-nft.html

That's fascinating @BlueHouse, I'd never heard of "Nonfungible tokens" and that sounds fairly well aligned with honesty/authenticity, plus combining art and technical expertise.

OP, look forward to future updates!

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2021, 05:06:31 PM »
Hi there,

I was wondering if you guys could help me. I'm an INFJ late graduate who never really discovered what to do. I feel like I have a lot of various skills but have had trouble finding a clear direction.

A brief background: I studied Psych at uni for 2 years, I was good at it but found it too clinical and depressing so dropped out, went back to do an English Lit degree which I really enjoyed, graduated with top marks but didn't find any relevant jobs, the pandemic started when I was unemployed so I picked up digital art, became super good at it and gained a big following, opened up a small shop/business, but later felt unfulfilled and limited so dropped that too. In between all that I also did some digital marketing jobs (which I was good at but hated to my core.)

So as I said above, I am an INFJ. I'm very creative but also an analyst and someone who needs that 'higher meaning' in what I do. The reason I've struggled to find a suitable job or avenue is because it either is serious and meaningful but doesn't really allow me to be creative or at least have some agency in how I do it. Or it's a position where I get to be creative, but lack the higher purpose where I feel like I'm making a social or cultural impact.

I really felt like I cracked the code when I started art last year - the whole 'self employed business' was super appealing to my creative side. But I realised that I still crave structure, deadlines, being challenged, being intellectually stimulated, being forced to think about things outside the box, making a difference through engaging with long term projects etc. The reason I really thrived at uni, especially with English lit, was because I really enjoyed that research aspect and grinding towards a long-term goal. I enjoyed the slow pace, the depth. I prefer working deeply on one project, than having several superficial tasks, which I feel like a lot of jobs usually are. But I don't want to work alone or freelance, I still want to be in an environment where I can be challenged by others.

I'm skilled at writing, drawing, editing. But my favourite skill to use is thinking. I feel like no matter how creative I am, I have to feel like the role I'm doing involves me thinking and putting ideas together, researching and evaluating and presenting new ideas (for something meaningful). If that makes any sense? I understand that I have some creative skill, but I want to use these as tools rather than as end results.

What has made my job search a little more difficult is that I hate working with the public. This means that even jobs like teaching or lecturing are not roles I'd consider or feel like I can do. While I have great interpersonal skills, this works better with colleagues rather than public or students. I am very shy and an introvert and simply feel I'd thrive best in the 'background', in research, or through my work, rather than one-to-one with people. I'm drawn towards thinking about sociology, culture, etc, rather than medical health or services.

So... does this bring any job ideas to mind for anyone? I realise I probably didn't articulate everything very well! I'm just super confused and feel like I'm struggling to find something that brings both my creativity and analytical skills together. I feel I have to care about the job I'm doing or really resonate with the 'impact' it's creating.
Hello! I’m INFJ and am a tech writer at a Fortune 50 health and wellness company. I love it. I get to write about things that can improve reader health outcomes.

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2021, 08:59:47 PM »
I am an ENFJ, so the following are some ideas...

1.  Technical writer.  Yeah, some of it is formulaic, but usually a different assignment topic every project.   I have done a lot of technical writing in my career as only 10% of us on the team were any good at it.

2.  UX designer (I once did the UX for a waste water treatment plant control room.  It was great fun.)

3.  Marketing - especially proposal writing and development -- for a consulting engineering company. Engineering is about problem solving and consulting engineering projects have a new project every few months, it seems like, something new and different.  Engineers therefore attract creative problem solvers (because they are not rejected for not being cookie cutter in their approach) in their support teams around them.  Engineers are creative problem solvers that often can't write well, or create good looking graphics for their documents, or sketch model drawings, if their livelihood depended on it (and well, yes, sales needs it).   My company used Indesign for this, I liked to hire communications and english majors in particular and also hired B. Fine Arts grads for marketing support roles like photographer, graphics, publishing editor etc.

4.  Go back and get a big data or engineering degree.  I found swimming through statistics to find patterns that held up and made sense to be extremely creative because you are making it up and testing it all the time to find the needle in the haystack.   Engineering I found to be all about solving complex problems, and I worked on a great non-stop variety of projects and had a lot of travel to see many different client sites.

-- Always remember that this is the day job.   And yes, creativity is always low in the first 5 years even in "creative" jobs because of the routine and prescribed designs.  I nearly quite my main career 4 years in for that reason.   You need to be a bit more senior to get up higher in the org to not get rank and file work.  (data entry, I am looking at you, you horrid beast).

If you want to find meaning in your work, I guess you can look for civil consulting engineering companies working on water projects for safe drinking water, or for environmental investigation companies, but really, just go volunteer in your off hours at a non-profit you are passionate about.  They would love free web design  / social media help.
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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2021, 02:42:39 PM »
This isn't a specific job suggestion, but an idea to help you think about what you want to do.

Decades ago, when I was at university, my dad arranged for me to see a career counselor (actually an executive outplacement consultant), and he started our meeting by asking me a question that has become a guiding principle for my career.

He said, "If Paradise is a place where you can pursue one (and only one) activity constantly and forever, what would you do?"

He said, "Don't think about it too much and don't feel like you have to specify a "job".

I said, "I'd spend it in a library."

He said, "Your homework, now and in the future, is to unpack that answer and identify the experiences, feelings, environment and interactions with others (or not) that you associate with being happy in a library. And then go and look for those elements in your career. It doesn't mean you'll be a librarian, but you'll find joy and a psychologically sustainable career path if you can find roles that have a good number of those "happy library" elements in them."

I'm a lawyer, and the roles I've enjoyed the most have felt more like "being in a library". I hated being a transaction lawyer, but I've loved being a research specialist, a mentor for law students and junior lawyers, the head of international regulatory affairs for a government agency (and at a company), and the head of knowledge management and communications for a small law firm. I love spending time alone thinking and writing, and then spending time sharing what I've learned with people, helping them with their projects, and shaping verbal and visual communications strategies.

So, my suggestion for you is that you answer the question, and then start identifying experiences in your past (at school, volunteer jobs, regular jobs) that give you joy and excitement and that bear a resemblance to your answer. And then think about how you can find roles that have a greater proportion of those elements that make you happy and motivated.

I can also recommend the book Pivot, by Jenny Blake, which has some great suggestions for how to shift from one path to another.

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2021, 09:52:07 PM »
The book "Do What You Are" has job profiles for the different Meyers-Briggs types.

I was an INTJ who gradually became an INFJ and had a mostly satisfying career in non-profit program design and management.  Did more project/program design work on the front end, more management/mentoring on the back end, which was a great fit as I transitioned to being more F than T.   But 80-90% of my work was done via the internet, which was EXCELLENT for my extreme I-ness.

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2021, 07:15:29 PM »
UPDATE:

Hi all,

Been a while since I posted, thanks so much for the replies. There were some I didn't even read until now because I had no idea.

Thought I'd give an update:

He said, "If Paradise is a place where you can pursue one (and only one) activity constantly and forever, what would you do?"

He said, "Don't think about it too much and don't feel like you have to specify a "job".

I said, "I'd spend it in a library."

...

So, my suggestion for you is that you answer the question, and then start identifying experiences in your past (at school, volunteer jobs, regular jobs) that give you joy and excitement and that bear a resemblance to your answer. And then think about how you can find roles that have a greater proportion of those elements that make you happy and motivated.

I actually ended up somewhere similar to this question. I feel like the direction I'm taking is one I'm excited about, even if a bit tentative and nervous, so I thought maybe there's something to be learned from this.

I wrote in my original post that I did art and built my own business around it - I became very unhappy about this and felt I needed to work towards something I really cared about, and also felt I needed more analytical thinking and just thinking in general. But I didn't want to be in a front facing role, talking to people and things like that. My background is in English literature as well as Psychology. As well as being an INFJ, I also got 'honesty' as one of my main strengths for that career test.

I kept veering into different routes - I started tutoring, giving people feedback on their English assignments. This fulfilled one part of me, the whole stimulation side, but I felt like it totally lacked creativity. As burnt out as I was, I missed that. So I ended up looking at courses back at uni that would combine my strengths - I looked into creative advertising, publishing, etc. In all of these things there were parts that I liked, but I didn't find myself really drawn to. I think the time I took at looking into these things helped in a different way - it allowed me to have space and a break from my art.

With the silence I realised that I was still drawn to creating, but the whole 'self business' and isolation put me off. I kept ignoring that part, not just because I was burnt out with art but because I didn't want it to interfere with my process. I didn't want to choose something out of habit again. Every now and then I went back to sketching though because regardless whether it's a career or not, it's still a hobby of mine. Every time I went back, I learned that I disliked it because it was the same and repetitive, and I was learning nothing new.

Then while watching Youtube, I got some new videos pop up from my usual art accounts I'm subscribed to, and one of them was a 'how to' on backgrounds. I have been avoiding any influence, but actually I only clicked on it this time because I wanted something to watch while I waited for laundry to finish. I saw that this person was doing the background and environment so easily, particularly because of a program they were using. Like they were able to just build the scene in 3d. I had been struggling with perspective and even though I'd gone quite far in making an 'art business', I hadn't finished learning about art. I guess I just stopped learning. Anyway, while watching this I felt like it was possible for me to try it and actually learn about this aspect that's bothered me for ages. (That program was Blender)

I went down the rabbit hole, and even bought a course from Udemy. I was really happy! Then learning more about it, I realised that learning to use those types of programs allows you to create visual aspects that go into video games too. (I play a lot, totally I had forgotten that my art was really inspired by animation and gaming, and that those topics drive me a lot)

I then thought, well I'd really like to learn Blender, but if it's easily taught in a college course (it's free where I live), I might as well see if I can get onto that? I ended up finding a perfect course for it in my city college. One thing lead to another and it seemed like it was just falling into place. I didn't think about career or anything, I just kept thinking to myself it's really something I want to learn whether I use it in future or not. So I soon after decided to apply - this is quite big for me because I'm usually very indecisive... as you can tell, I put a lot of research into things. (Or second guess myself, whichever interpretation you prefer haha).

Now I'm in the process of waiting to hear back from my application, and have submitted a digital portfolio, which in itself made me realise my art journey and how much I do enjoy it.

Now I want to get to the parts that I had realisations about: It wasn't the art that I was fed up with, it was the structure that was holding me back. Being in a small business, there's no 'career progression', and the fact you're alone, there's no sense of something bigger than you. There's no 'working towards a bigger project' or collaboration, which I get so much joy out of. It was that which put me off. And the analytical aspect of it - there's one thing that has been the same for me throughout every different chapter of my career, and that's my desire to learn how to do new things.

Just like I was initially drawn to digital art (despite being totally put off by traditional art, because it's so 'flat' and 'easy'), I was once again drawn to learning these computer programs to create much more intricate things. Before that, I'd made almost a habit of learning new skills. I've taught myself foreign languages, photography, baking, and even DIY (yes I'm the 'man' of the house - I plastered our bathroom wall and wallpapered our bedroom, all on a first time). What I enjoy greatly is learning things, especially things that seem to have a lot more potential, like digital and computing type stuff. (Props to those who suggested UX/UI Design.. at first I admit I was horrified at those answers, but now it makes more sense, and it's not something I'm writing off either).

What could be more complicated than creating those elements for large worlds - video games which have several higher meanings, create experiences for others, interact with them, and everything. Looking over it now, it even combines my passion for story telling and fiction (which I studied English Lit for), as well as my interest in humans as social beings (psychology background). And of course - it's not a position I'd ever have to speak to anyone. (Thank GOD)

The reason I'm writing all this is because one interesting thing stood out to me - I am an INFJ, which means I do care about 'bigger things', and I got 'honesty' in one of my main strengths, but it turns out that these aspects don't have any direct link to concept art design for video games. Perhaps that is really telling - just because someone might care about 'higher meanings', that might not necessarily mean health care, or even the typical environmental stuff. Maybe that trait is more about feeling the need to belong to a social group that isn't just yourself, where you can contribute to something that has been a huge force for good in your life - which can even be something like entertainment.

I think the honesty aspect is more about my search for finding something that is 'true' to me, rather than about 'telling the truth' (although I do do that). I think for an INFJ it is important to feel that kind of clarity maybe? That things have to match, otherwise it's perhaps more difficult to feel like it's worth it. These are just suggestions, and obviously I know all types have drive and a need for finding careers that match.

Anyway, let me know what y'all think about that. This is only just the next part of the journey for me, but I feel like I've pulled out that thorn that was bugging me. Your answers really helped open my mind! I am female and I think certain job routes didn't occur to me perhaps because they've never particularly been marketed to me - but realising that there's no reason why I can't do the things I love is exciting. Thanks again everyone.
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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2021, 03:21:08 PM »
Awesome update - sounds like you are on track.

Don't spend too much time over-analyzing - I know too many friends who simply never made it a priority to find out what they wanted to do. They "thought about it" and basically won't bother listening to anybody else, have done nothing about it, and now are trapped in dead-end careers they don't particularly like. If you are able to take those classes, take them, and if you decide they aren't too interesting after all, drop them, or count it all a valuable experience. But you might be surprised, too.

I've seen one school of thought that we are often happiest doing something we are good at and much of our passion can develop from this. Even within programming, as much as it seems to lack a bigger picture at times, I find my days so much more enjoyable when I'm doing the type of work I'm good at (middle tier and UI, and not the database). Finding real passion, though, takes most of us time. I don't know that I'm there quite yet, but the key is that I keep learning, and I at least have the self awareness to know that programming for the rest of my life is probably not the best option, though whatever passion I do find will very likely involve technology.

Good luck!

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2021, 05:13:53 AM »
I recommend the book "Designing your Life," or at the very least, go to their website and complete the exercises. My key takeaways from this book were 1) tracking how I spent my time and how I felt while doing various activities to help find a path that would better fit my preferences, and 2) trying to find ways to prototype or test the waters before diving into a big change/ commitment.

I'm an INFP, so a good bit of overlap personality wise.

That said, I had a completely different strategy before I discovered the book I mentioned above and that may also be helpful to you. I found that it helped somewhat to get through the always-present negative parts of my previous career when I felt like my job was something that made the world a better place (all about finding that higher purpose). Are there any causes you are super passionate about? Any core beliefs that you have about the world? If so, maybe you could look for jobs that would advance those causes or beliefs, or at least be tangentially related?

Granted, I still really disliked my job but I was able to grit my teeth until I FIRED because I felt like I was making a positive difference. Now, after reading "Designing Your Life" I quit my career and went to school for completely different path that involves working with my hands (the activity that gave me the most satisfaction when I was tracking my time).

I am following this thread because I am INFJ also and want to change my career for another 10 years before I retire.
I looked at Designing Your Life site but couldn't find any exercises to complete.. ?  Can you point me in a right direction please.

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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2021, 08:12:33 AM »
Here's the direct link to the page with the worksheets:

https://designingyour.life/resources-authorized/

ETA: It was the "Good Time Journal Activity Log" that I liked best-- you fill out the log as you complete activities throughout your day/week and indicate your engagement in each task as well as energy.
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Re: Job Suggestions for an INFJ?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2021, 02:34:04 PM »
Hi there,

An INFP here. I just wanted to say I get where you're coming from and found it really interesting to read this thread and see your update. After a long time trying different jobs with a similar search for meaning and satisfaction, I found a role (individual tutor at a university) that fits really well for my personality. So glad you're doing well with it all, sounds like you are on the right track. :)

All the best!
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