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Job interview party? - Update
« on: May 11, 2017, 10:34:07 AM »
I was sent a "by invitation only open house." The subject of the email is "interview requested." The open house is from 8am to 12pm. It says "light refreshments served." Has anybody been to an interview like this? The positions they are hiring for are technical in nature. Is this a test to see if we have social skills? Doing the Limbo skills? Do you think I'll have to stay for the whole four hours? I don't know if I want to work somewhere where they make their hiring managers stand around for four hours. Here is the flier:
***Are You Awesome?***
**OPEN HOUSE**
*** By Invitation ONLY***
WHEN: MAY 18, 2017
TIME: 8:00AM 12:00PM
PLACE: xx
POC: Wendy xx
**ON THE SPOT INTERVIEWS WITH MANAGERS**
R.S.V.P REQUIRED
**Light refreshments served Learn about benefits Clearances verified on the spot**
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2017, 11:18:07 AM »
Sounds like a MLM party.

Edit: Oh wait
The positions they are hiring for are technical in nature. Is this a test to see if we have social skills? Doing the Limbo skills?

Possibly because you get to "manage your website" that they provide at $40 a month?

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Re: Job interview party?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2017, 11:23:03 AM »
Lol.

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Re: Job interview party?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2017, 11:40:14 AM »
> ***Are You Awesome?***

It sounds like a wacky startup, beware of those, it rarely ends well.

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Re: Job interview party?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2017, 06:28:27 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 06:36:28 PM »
My last company did this once because they had a ton of open positions due to a recent expansion.  Just sayin, it might not be complete BS.

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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 07:19:46 PM »
I swear half of the screening interviews I went on they just wanted to see if I showed up with some obvious red flag like a gravy stain on my shirt and to confirm that I am capable of making eye contact . . . could be that.

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 07:34:25 PM »
It didn't occur to me to look at glassdoor. The reviews are really good! I was pretty sure the company was legit I was moreso asking how to deal with a interview cocktail party. But I talked to them and they said they will let me have a one hour time slot so at least I don't have to be there for four hours.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2017, 05:49:03 AM »
What's the harm in going? If it's a good fit, you might be able to score a new job! If not, free food!

Heck, even if it was a MLM scheme, it would never hurt to go, if not for the free food!

I would guess that the company is aiming to have very casual interviews - probably trying to avoid the rehearsed, overly formal nature of traditional job interviews. I bet they'll be able to learn more about you in a 1 hour casual interview than in 6 hours of formal interviews.

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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2017, 10:06:11 AM »
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Heck, even if it was a MLM scheme, it would never hurt to go, if not for the free food!

I'm always down for free food.

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2017, 11:31:17 AM »
An interview party for a tech job? So now you'll have to nervously whiteboard algorithm problems in front of 20+ people instead of 1 or 2

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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2017, 11:46:43 AM »
My current company did this. I was invited along with 25ish other Masters and PhD students from many schools. They flew most of us in and we had a 1-2 hour breakfast where we were joined by directors and managers and had open conversation.

Afterwards, they had tables setup and we did round robin interviews for a few hours. I actually had an extra interview added because of a good conversation I had with a director. I actually enjoyed it and have worked for that company for nearly 8 years.


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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2017, 11:55:54 AM »
Very interesting. Not a good set up for the introverted, but I think I'd do well in this type of environment as long as my slimy salesperson, bullshit meter isn't going off during the event. And if it is, I'd probably just say "thanks, but no thanks" and leave.

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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2017, 12:31:08 PM »
I am an introvert and the job is accounting. I can be charming I suppose? @Ocinfo can you explain what a round robin interview is and how you did it?

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2017, 01:12:15 PM »
I am an introvert and the job is accounting. I can be charming I suppose? @Ocinfo can you explain what a round robin interview is and how you did it?

The thing is most of the people are introverts (I'm an engineer) so even if you're just a bit more charming it can go a long way. Plus it's only 4 hours and money can be a good motivator.

Basically each department had a table setup with 1-2 managers. Each of the candidates got a list of which departments and the in what order they would interview. You'd spend 15-30 minutes at each station before moving on to the next one. If a department really liked you then you could be asked back to their table for another round. This all happens in a large conference room. This was very much like a career fair but with only the one company and everyone was pre-screened to be a good candidate for at least 1 department.


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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2017, 02:43:23 PM »
Very interesting. Not a good set up for the introverted, but I think I'd do well in this type of environment as long as my slimy salesperson, bullshit meter isn't going off during the event. And if it is, I'd probably just say "thanks, but no thanks" and leave.

Yeah, I had a similar experience once not for a job, but to try to get a room in college. They decided instead of interviewing potential roommates individually they would just throw an impromptu party for all potential roommates to attend.

Despite being extremely introverted at this point I had been trying to get a room for over a month, during which I was going to college, travelling 4+ hours a day and spending hours a day interviewing and trying to find a place to stay so at this point of getting maybe 5 hours a sleep a night for a month straight I was desperate and decided to go. It was one of the worst experiences in my life. I am not all that shy, but I am very introverted and this event was the worst match for me in every possible way and ended with me leaving exhausted and disillusioned, I hated every second of it and of course it didn't lead to me getting the room.

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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2017, 03:13:23 PM »
Did this once at a job interview very early in my career. I had passed the technical interview a week earlier, they invited all the people who passed to the party. Big house party with about 200 people, clients, vendors, etc. They were testing for whether or not I'd fit the "work hard play hard" corporate culture. At that point in my career, I didn't.

Ask them what the dress code is. Avoid the usual (treating service people badly, getting drunk, sexually harassing anyone) and socialize with as many people as possible, use it to evaluate the culture. Look interested. That should get you a good shot at whatever they're hiring for.

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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2017, 06:43:14 PM »
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Yeah, I had a similar experience once not for a job, but to try to get a room in college. They decided instead of interviewing potential roommates individually they would just throw an impromptu party for all potential roommates to attend.
I did that too once. We all had to go around in a circle and talk about how we were the best person for the room. I think the person who "won" talked about their baking skills. This was all for a room that didn't even have a door. It was a sheet.

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Yikes!

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2017, 08:16:39 PM »
No insight, just wanted to wish you good luck, mozar!  If you're open to an update after the party, I'd be very interested to hear about the set up.

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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2017, 08:40:25 PM »
An interview party for a tech job? So now you'll have to nervously whiteboard algorithm problems in front of 20+ people instead of 1 or 2

I'm imagining a chess match, with commentators.

"Well, let's see where he's going with this.  He's created a struct to hold both the data element, and the original position - and, yes, he's now defining a comparison operator that takes both the value and the original position into account!  That's a smart move - he can now use a std::sort function with the custom comparison operator!  Let's see if he mentions benchmarking to see if this is a limiting factor before optimizing more.  Yes!  He did!  They're asking him now how he might optimize it further - and based on the data parameters, he's just suggested a radix sort!  This is going very, very well!"

Oh, and a business social?  If there's alcohol provided, don't get shitfaced.  If not, a good pull from a flask of your preferred strong alcohol just before you wander in (discreetly!) would probably help you be more social.

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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2017, 08:52:20 PM »
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If you're open to an update after the party, I'd be very interested to hear about the set up.

No problem!

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If there's alcohol provided, don't get shitfaced.

I don't drink alcohol, so I'm good there.

I was thinking about telling accounting jokes. How about them debits and credits, I'll be here all night! (I'm not actually going to do that).

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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2017, 09:56:49 PM »
Group interviews are on the rise because it's more cost effective. Interviews are a huge time sink for companies. You're getting the sugarcoated version that sells a sense of exclusivity.

I'd go.

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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2017, 02:29:14 PM »
Yes, I have been to something like this for a defense contractor who won a huge contract.  For mine it was like a mixer with Leadership and then they set up interview time slots for the next day if they liked you.

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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2017, 02:37:31 PM »
This solves a little mystery for me.  A few months ago, my son called up and said that he had received a breezy email invitation that was obviously for some unknown group of people to come to an event that involved free pizza, socializing, and the presence of mystery man "John no-last-name" who would give an interesting educational presentation.  Son had already jumped through about 4 separate hoops in the job application process for this company by then (online technical skills test, phone interviews, etc.)  He thought it was very odd and wanted my opinion.  I thought it was very odd, too.  A little googling on my part found out that it was a legitimate company and that "John" was some sort of mid-level manager.   So I told him to go if he wanted and to try not to drop the pizza on his shirt.  And not to give them any money if it turned out to be a MLM or a strange scam.

Still think it's an odd way to interview programmers, but now I understand it's a New Thing amongst the Human Resources folks.  The MMM forum is such an educational place!

The rest of the story is that Son went, must have vaguely passed the pizza-party test because in the next week or so, he had to jump through 2 more hoops (face to face interviews this time, I think).  After 7 different hoop/contacts, they told him they were hiring someone else.  He was Not Pleased with the time he had spent on that company.  It also was an lot of effort on the company's part if they do that for every position.

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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2017, 02:45:37 PM »
That does seem like a lot of effort for the company.

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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2017, 07:54:59 AM »
Yes, I once did a group interview for a job, and it was held at a bar.  They offered me a drink right at the beginning. It was very strange, especially since this was a legal job -- and those are usually by-the-book.  I ended up getting the job and later learned that the managing partner of the firm was just partial to this type of interview.  He believed he could pick out the best people by throwing them into a quasi-social setting.  He also really liked to drink, so who knows?  Maybe that played a role.   

This was all a few years back.  Interesting to hear this is becoming a bigger "thing." 

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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2017, 10:21:03 AM »
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This is how you know it's definitely no MLM scheme. This is actually a legit setup that lots of defense companies use, mostly to source candidates for highly cleared positions.

It's hard for uncleared HR and TA folks to source candidates for highly cleared roles and you'd be shocked at how many thousands of uncleared people will apply online to "pre-existing TS/SCI only" roles. So, companies hold parties where invitees with the correct clearances can discuss a variety of positions with hiring managers who have direct knowledge of the work to be performed. It's much easier to have conversations like, "Oh, you worked for Customer X on The Thing? Well, we have some slots under Customer Z doing Similar Thing." when you're not working through multiple levels of uncleared HR.

So have fun!

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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2017, 10:42:07 AM »
Aha! It is a company that works with the military. In Northern VA in fact.

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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2017, 12:09:20 PM »
Aha! It is a company that works with the military. In Northern VA in fact.
Mozar, have you looked at cleared jobs dot com or similar sites?  the job fairs held just for cleared individuals may be something you'd be interested in.

Meantime, I've never heard of one of those parties but maybe it's sort of an informal job fair with only one company in attendance.  I would not feel comfortable having an "interview" with other candidates. 

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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2017, 02:18:05 PM »
I went to something like this a new graduate nurse. It was billed as an "open house", but they did round robin (not group) interviews in the morning (w/ HR and individual unit managers) and share time on the different units with open positions in the afternoon. There was obviously no alcohol involved. A good dozen of my classmates and I got jobs at that hospital from the one event. It works!

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« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2017, 05:23:19 PM »
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Mozar, have you looked at cleared jobs dot com or similar sites?  the job fairs held just for cleared individuals may be something you'd be interested in.

Meantime, I've never heard of one of those parties but maybe it's sort of an informal job fair with only one company in attendance.  I would not feel comfortable having an "interview" with other candidates.

I have a pretty low clearance level so I rarely qualify for jobs at cleared jobs. I have heard of interview parties with the super high level clearances, but I've never been invited.
I'm thinking its more  of a round robin interview than a group interview. Only 6 people were ccd on the invite so it sounds pretty small. For mid career, group interviews don't make sense to me.

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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2017, 02:27:29 PM »
Lies, lies! It was just two people interviewing me in a conference room. It even said career fair on the door. They had other tables set up with other people being interviewed. But I didn't go to other tables. It was not a group interview, or round robin, maybe panel-lite.

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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2017, 07:53:14 PM »
Ew.  I hate false advertising.  Sorry, mozar.

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« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2017, 09:13:59 PM »
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Ew.  I hate false advertising.  Sorry, mozar.

Lol, its fine. I think it would have been more of a party atmosphere if more people were there. It was just me and another guy.

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« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2017, 10:07:59 PM »
you might get to buy a timeshare for 2 weeks out of the year. hopefully it's in maui

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« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2017, 10:08:57 PM »
Thanks for the update! I was wondering what had happened.

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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2017, 04:37:50 AM »
Did you at least get light refreshments?

Wasn't here interview for a job you want?