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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2015, 02:55:40 PM »
I have a simple question.  I run 7 on a desktop and use Skype with an ID from before it was a Microsoft product, and therefore don't use a Microsoft login to use it.  With my new 8.1 laptop I have found no way to get into the (factory installed) Skype on it without getting a Microsoft login, which I have no desire to get.  I prefer to keep my individual logins (yes, I'm old school).  Is there a way to bypass the strong-arm tactics and use my current log in with the new os?  Download from the web over the factory-installed version?

I'm also waiting for awhile on both systems before upgrading.  I work in IT (not on desktops) and I have never wanted to be a Microsoft early-adopter.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2015, 03:08:26 PM »
I'm your basic windows user - email, browsing, some streaming, and I use Sage 50 for accounting purposes.  I upgraded to 10,and hated it because of all the bugs (calculator wouldn't open, start button and search unresponsive resulting in having to reboot at least 2x a day by holding down the power button to restart.)  Within the week I went back to 7.   I will wait a few months and try again.  Now if only there was a way to stop having the "Upgrade to Windows 10!" popup appear constantly...

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2015, 03:34:21 PM »
I have a simple question.  I run 7 on a desktop and use Skype with an ID from before it was a Microsoft product, and therefore don't use a Microsoft login to use it.  With my new 8.1 laptop I have found no way to get into the (factory installed) Skype on it without getting a Microsoft login, which I have no desire to get.  I prefer to keep my individual logins (yes, I'm old school).  Is there a way to bypass the strong-arm tactics and use my current log in with the new os?  Download from the web over the factory-installed version?

I'm also waiting for awhile on both systems before upgrading.  I work in IT (not on desktops) and I have never wanted to be a Microsoft early-adopter.
The Skype in question is probably the Windows 8 Skype app and not the traditional Skype app (which has been differentiated as Skype for desktop). I've never used the Windows app version so I cannot answer if there is a way for old-school logons to work on that, but if you download Skype from the site, you can still use the traditional, non-Microsoft logon username.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2015, 03:39:12 PM »
I'm your basic windows user - email, browsing, some streaming, and I use Sage 50 for accounting purposes.  I upgraded to 10,and hated it because of all the bugs (calculator wouldn't open, start button and search unresponsive resulting in having to reboot at least 2x a day by holding down the power button to restart.)  Within the week I went back to 7.   I will wait a few months and try again.  Now if only there was a way to stop having the "Upgrade to Windows 10!" popup appear constantly...
Wow, those are some serious issues, and I wonder what can be causing them. They sound more than just simple driver issues. I wonder if something happened to your search indexer. I hope that the only solution isn't a fresh install. In any case, to stop "Upgrade to Windows 10!" from popping up, follow these steps.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2015, 07:47:11 PM »
For those playing along... my computer crashed. I was able to restore with a factory reset, then I decided to go ahead and put windows 10 on it. It's fine. nothing too crazy. I turned off a lot of the data sharing with microsoft.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2015, 01:03:53 AM »
For those playing along... my computer crashed. I was able to restore with a factory reset, then I decided to go ahead and put windows 10 on it. It's fine. nothing too crazy. I turned off a lot of the data sharing with microsoft.

Good for you. Now all you have to do is remain eternally vigilant in case Microsoft secretly turns it on again in an update.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2015, 05:40:56 AM »
For those playing along... my computer crashed. I was able to restore with a factory reset, then I decided to go ahead and put windows 10 on it. It's fine. nothing too crazy. I turned off a lot of the data sharing with microsoft.

Good for you. Now all you have to do is remain eternally vigilant in case Microsoft secretly turns it on again in an update.

If you're that worried about being tracked, you probably shouldn't be using computers on the internet. :P

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2015, 08:43:32 AM »
For those playing along... my computer crashed. I was able to restore with a factory reset, then I decided to go ahead and put windows 10 on it. It's fine. nothing too crazy. I turned off a lot of the data sharing with microsoft.

Good for you. Now all you have to do is remain eternally vigilant in case Microsoft secretly turns it on again in an update.

If you're that worried about being tracked, you probably shouldn't be using computers on the internet. :P

I'm behind 7 proxies. ; )

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2015, 06:57:23 PM »
For those playing along... my computer crashed. I was able to restore with a factory reset, then I decided to go ahead and put windows 10 on it. It's fine. nothing too crazy. I turned off a lot of the data sharing with microsoft.

Good for you. Now all you have to do is remain eternally vigilant in case Microsoft secretly turns it on again in an update.

If you're that worried about being tracked, you probably shouldn't be using computers on the internet. :P

I'm behind 7 proxies. ; )

lmao, well played.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2015, 12:50:03 PM »
For those playing along... my computer crashed. I was able to restore with a factory reset, then I decided to go ahead and put windows 10 on it. It's fine. nothing too crazy. I turned off a lot of the data sharing with microsoft.

Good for you. Now all you have to do is remain eternally vigilant in case Microsoft secretly turns it on again in an update.

If you're that worried about being tracked, you probably shouldn't be using computers on the internet. :P

I'm behind 7 proxies. ; )

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2015, 03:22:55 PM »
Well, I had my first real experience with Windows 10 yesterday.  I'm a computer geek, power user, web/server/db administrator, tinkerer, etc.  We got a new laptop in the office for testing.

For me, Windows 10 is a dramatic step backwards in usability and UI efficiency, compared to Windows 7.  There's way too much bloat, it's a nightmare trying to find all the settings you want, the bundled apps are intrusive, and you have a lot less control over the UI (and everything else).  For a person who wants their computer to act more like their phone or tablet, it might be ok.  But from me, it gets a big thumbs-down.  I'm ambivalent about the visual aesthetic, but the new Start Menu is atrocious, and there's no option (short of installing Classic Shell) to use the old-style.

Alright, that's enough ranting for now. :)

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2015, 03:39:27 PM »
I havent taken the plunge yet, but DH did. I think it looks/behaves just like 8. Perhaps a more well behaved 8. To me 8 was a big difference from 7. For you Windows 7 users, be prepared for a shock.

DH had so much bloat he had to download a gaming tool that would stop like 12 services so his game wouldn't lag. Im still on 8 and I have way less lag than he does so Im NOT going for 10 any time soon.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2015, 05:17:24 PM »
Im NOT going for 10 any time soon.

Turn off Windows Update now, or you might not have a choice.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2015, 09:28:07 PM »
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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2015, 02:03:54 AM »
I just said this in a different thread, but ... it's a direct question, so...

Take this with a grain of salt.  I'm a Linux/Unix guy and have been since windows was called "windows 3.1".  Eventually you pretty much HAVE to upgrade to the currently supported windows platform or decide to move to another platform (Linux, Apple, etc.)  At some point in time, Win 7 won't get security patches and eventually new software will just not work at all (or really work poorly) because it is no longer the target.

The upgrade is free for a year if you have win7 or win8.  To me that means if you want to run Windows, it makes sense to get in line and get the upgrade at some point before it no longer is free.  There is probably a good reason to let other people "go first" and work out the kinks.  I wouldn't just jump on it on day 1 unless you're a computer geek that likes to tinker with stuff.

I agree with you.  I am both a Windows and Linux guy.  I prefer Linux for my dev work but am perfectly fine with windows as well (virtualbox/linux for dev stuff).  Windows 10 is a good stepping stone from 7, unlike windows 8.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2015, 06:06:42 AM »
Im NOT going for 10 any time soon.

Turn off Windows Update now, or you might not have a choice.

Yes, I've been butting heads with this problem at work on the public access computers.  We're running DeepFreeze on those, and I have to manually update them, but the Win10 update is automatically checked, every time.  I've tried hiding that update but it refuses to stay hidden.  It took multiple passes  of uninstalling KB3035583 to finally remove that update (thank you to the PP that linked it) from the most troubled stations.  We've been told not to switch to Win10 yet, it's not compatible with our system's network (last upgrade weeks before 10 was rolled out in July).  Next upgrade not expected until sometime next year...

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2015, 08:29:19 AM »
I switched to 10 a few weeks ago, AOE III would not switch to full screen.  Looked for the fix but no luck "working on fix"  switched back.  Maybe in 6 more months but we will see.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2015, 11:35:51 AM »
I have a Win 7 laptop, and am perfectly happy with it as it is. I've used 8 and 8.1 some, didn't like either. Also don't like tablets, so maybe that's why?

Not upgrading to 10. I do wonder when Microsoft will remember that it's core market is business users, and since my company just upgraded to Win 7 last year, it'll take quite a while before we upgrade again.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2015, 01:54:16 PM »
I switched to 10 a few weeks ago, AOE III would not switch to full screen.  Looked for the fix but no luck "working on fix"  switched back.  Maybe in 6 more months but we will see.

Funny you should mention this, I'm hooked on AOE II.  Were you playing AOE III through Steam?  I haven't made the Windows 10 plunge yet, but I probably will before the free upgrade runs out.  My laptop is on borrowed time as it is - AOE II will lag if I move the laptop, yeah, something bad is going to happen soon so I'll have to find something new anyway.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2015, 02:47:52 PM »
Funny you should mention this, I'm hooked on AOE II.  Were you playing AOE III through Steam?  I haven't made the Windows 10 plunge yet, but I probably will before the free upgrade runs out.  My laptop is on borrowed time as it is - AOE II will lag if I move the laptop, yeah, something bad is going to happen soon so I'll have to find something new anyway.
There's a good chance there's nothing wrong with the laptop--it's simply detecting that you're moving the laptop, and parking the hard drive heads just in case the laptop is falling.  I've seen that cause lag before.  If you disable the free fall protection, it might make that symptom go away.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2015, 12:45:05 AM »
I've been using Windows 10 since March (insider previews), and I haven't seen any of the stuff being mentioned here. I think it follows in the lightweight footsteps of Windows 8.1, but without the crappy tablet-centric interface. I've not experienced any of the crashes. My games all work. And I find the interface somewhat more slick.

In response to people saying that the start menu is different, I'll acknowledge my complete apathy on this matter. Anything 7 and later has an equally good start menu, because I don't have to use it. I just press the windows button to open the menu, then type what I want. It's much faster than clicking things.

The biggest surprise improvement I can think of right now is that you can make your applications tile in 2x2 configuration with hotkeys, whereas previously all you could get was side-by-side.

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #71 on: October 20, 2015, 06:57:56 AM »
There's a good chance there's nothing wrong with the laptop--it's simply detecting that you're moving the laptop, and parking the hard drive heads just in case the laptop is falling.  I've seen that cause lag before.  If you disable the free fall protection, it might make that symptom go away.

Ohh, good to know!  I'll have to look into that, maybe that's the issue.  Realistically I just shouldn't have the laptop on my lap... but at this point it's 4 years old and it's lasted this long.  Thanks!

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Re: Is there some reason I should upgrade to windows 10?
« Reply #72 on: October 20, 2015, 11:10:28 AM »
There's a good chance there's nothing wrong with the laptop--it's simply detecting that you're moving the laptop, and parking the hard drive heads just in case the laptop is falling.  I've seen that cause lag before.  If you disable the free fall protection, it might make that symptom go away.

Ohh, good to know!  I'll have to look into that, maybe that's the issue.  Realistically I just shouldn't have the laptop on my lap... but at this point it's 4 years old and it's lasted this long.  Thanks!

Also, if the computer is 4 years old, it's almost guaranteed to be upgrade-able. Swapping out the spinning HDD for a SSD will make a huge difference in everyday use of the computer, and as a bonus there are no moving parts in the SSD (unlike HDD). This isn't really related to the topic, but I recommend it to anyone who has $70 available and uses their computer more than 1 hour/day.