Author Topic: How to convince employer to switch retirement-plan providers  (Read 2990 times)

mustachecat

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How to convince employer to switch retirement-plan providers
« on: February 14, 2013, 05:19:56 AM »
So, I work for a nonprofit, and we have a 403(b) plan with no company match.  Our provider is MetLife, and the only products we can choose from are annuities. I'm almost 100% certain that everyone participating is investing in variable annuities. I will admit that when I signed up two years ago with our MetLife rep/broker, I didn't dig into what the plan was at all. I'm sure that the rep must have mentioned the word "annuity," or that it appeared on the contract, but I thought I was just investing in mutual funds.

Having dug into it now, I'm convinced we're getting a terrible deal. So far, the fees I can track down for my portfolio (and I'm sure there are more, scattered across bits of PDFs hidden on their terrible, incredibly hard to navigate website) are already over 2%. If we leave the organization, we can't roll the money over into an IRA without paying a hefty surrender fee. And while I'm far from a sophisticated investor, I'm amazed at how difficult it is to understand anything in their prospectuses and find basic information, like what the full range of fees we're paying.

I asked my boss why we chose MetLife. His answer? "I'm not sure. I think they're the only ones who responded to our RFP." I then asked him about how he felt about only being able to invest in annuities. He said, "Wait, what? We have annuities?"

*headdesk*

Our conversation (this was last night) was cut short because he had to get on a conference call, but it's clear to me that zero thought was put into selecting MetLife and that very few people are even aware that we're all invested in variable annuities instead of directly into mutual funds.

The higher-ups that I need to convince to switch providers are not finance, math, or investing people. I can already see the VP's eyes glaze over as I talk about expense ratios. How should I present my argument? Can I just point him towards the countless articles that talk about how variable annuities are generally a poor retirement vehicle? Show him the chart at the bottom of http://www.403bwise.com/wisemoves/fees.html? Make my own chart?

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Re: How to convince employer to switch retirement-plan providers
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 09:06:36 AM »
Be ready for a long process.  Once upon a time, I undertook this with respect to my wife's 401k, Pension/profit sharing plan.  It was a 100 employee organization and after 18 months (or so) of mostly gentle lobbying, with numbers, etc., the group opened the selection process up and chose a much better plan.  (Actually ended up appointing me to be one of the plan's fiduciaries, so I was allowed to drive the search--don't know if that was revenge or gratitude on their part!)

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Re: How to convince employer to switch retirement-plan providers
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 09:32:25 AM »
Oh, boy. What do you think finally swayed them? Or was it more a matter of polite, unyielding persistence?

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Re: How to convince employer to switch retirement-plan providers
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 10:39:52 AM »
Oh, boy. What do you think finally swayed them? Or was it more a matter of polite, unyielding persistence?

I guess you can argue it's basically free to the employer to have a better provider and it'll improve  benefits. Employee satisfaction and retention rate will improve, keeping costs down. New employees will also be drawn to the company for its better benefits, increasing the quality of the applicant pool and ensuring the talent of future employees.

And you'll spearhead the search, throw together a powerpoint to show it saves money and people like it, yadda yadda.

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Re: How to convince employer to switch retirement-plan providers
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 12:21:17 PM »
Chucklesmcgee pretty much sums my experience up.  Also helped that it was a professional corporation and the decisionmakers stood to make out quite well from a change--they just had never really paid any attention and trusted what their insurance/pension provider recommended. (never a good idea)

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Re: How to convince employer to switch retirement-plan providers
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 12:42:38 PM »
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I'm pretty low down on the totem pole, which makes me nervous, but this seems like such a no-brainer.

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!